NEW: ACC Will Settle with Florida State On Exit, More Schools to Follow

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Recent legal maneuvers by the ACC, particularly amidst Florida State's lawsuit, hint at significant conference reconfiguration possibilities. The ACC's strategic signaling of potential negotiations with Florida State regarding departure terms signifies a pivotal juncture in conference dynamics.
Legal filings referencing the Grant of Rights agreement, binding member schools' television rights until June 2036, reveal ambiguity open to negotiation. The ACC's acknowledgment of schools' potential to repurchase rights subtly invites discussions on exit fees and rights buyouts, setting the stage for crucial deliberations.
Florida State's estimation of exit costs, ranging from $0 in a legal victory to $572 million, underscores negotiation stakes. A probable compromise between these extremes, possibly near $150 million, highlights the imminent negotiation's significance amidst looming trial outcomes.
A potential exodus of desirable programs could spur further realignment interest from conferences like the Big Ten and SEC. Despite hefty exit fees, the allure of increased revenue and competitive opportunities in new conferences presents compelling incentives for departing schools.
In this evolving landscape, schools like Florida State face a calculated risk, weighing long-term gains against immediate financial considerations. While negotiation uncertainties persist, the prospect of reshaped conference hierarchies and enhanced financial prospects drives the urgency for decisive action.
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@michaelnelson813 5 ай бұрын

The ACC had a winning record against non conference opponents during the regular season. And 5 and 6 during bowl season. And that includes the FSU loss against Georgia while playing with the back up QB. Georgia was probably the best team in the SEC and could have been more competitive against Michigan.

@seminoleboy96 5 ай бұрын

3rd string qb. Not to mention our entire team not playing and all GA playing except Bowers. It was a scrimmage

@mickeyellison7929 6 ай бұрын

People keep talking about the big two (SEC/Big Ten) breaking away. If that would happen, the televison ratings would be significantly decreased. If you have only the 40 plus schools in those two conferences playing for the title every year, you can expect that the next tier of teams and their fans wil suddenly show no interest in watching those two conferences duke it out. Think about it, I'm a West Virginia fan. If we have no seat at the table, I am boycotting and not watching those two power conferences. That is a rather large fanbase to stop watching and caring. Now take all the West Virginia fans and add that to 40-50 other schools. All those fans will boycott and not watch as well. You are going to lose more than half of the country and their television viewing habits by separating from the other current power conference schools.

@thetopfan5031 6 ай бұрын

I think you make a great point here.

@HawaiianBro808 6 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm a Hawaii fan & don't care about the SEC/Big Ten games. I found Big 12 interesting because of the new teams & parity. Other than that, I watch Mountain West.

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

All of this is the preliminary for the next stage wherein there is a super conference of the elite teams who will have their own championship and then all of the FBS teams not in the super conference will have their own. That way, every school is in a championship class.

@foreverorangegirl44 6 ай бұрын

As a Syracuse alum, I won’t give 2 💩💩 about their stupid self-proclaimed “only teams that matter” if we don’t get at least a chance to improve and compete for the National Championship. Teams change over time, just because someone is top tier or struggling one year doesn’t mean they will ALWAYS be that way. I’m not “switching allegiances” to another team just because they are in the “better” league. I WILL NOT WATCH ANY GAMES FOR ANY “LEAGUE” THAT HAS SANCTIMONIOUSLY SNUBBED MY ALMA MATER. Period. You can count my 2 eyeballs and tv out of your viewership.

@mbo7613 6 ай бұрын

Agree it's bad for football but aren't we already there with the SEC/ESPN dominating programming and scheduling? In the new era of pay per play disguised NIL, you need millions just to land a top QB. National relevance is mostly an illusion. Only a handful of programs have the money and the brand to win. The 5 star players are concentrated in the same handful of teams each season. Washington and TCU came close to disrupting the blue-blood order, but those stories will become less and less possible if U TN prevails in their lawsuit to defend their booster collective inducements ($8M inducement to a HS QB). U TN is doubling down on their perceived competitive advantage, e.g., ability to out bid the competition. They ultimately want to establish the ability for the University to control NIL payments and pay players directly which opens up the SEC media rights war chest. OSU reportedly has a $13M player payroll. The transfer portal has become a public auction. Coaches are paid $8M per year and renegotiate raises when winning or accept guaranteed buyouts when losing. B1G coaches have reported that players demand $7k in "travel money" to take a visit. Second string running backs demanding hundreds of thousands in NIL to not shop their services. Every coach change kicks off a rush of players to the portal in order to sell to the highest bidder irrespective of college degree aspirations. Nike artists create NFT's of player likenesses for UO players to enable boosters to directly fund players under the guise of NIL. 320lb linemen with no independently marketable name/image/likeness are paid hundreds of thousands to make a couple of appearances by affiliated collectives run by boosters. Programs and their boosters are already laying the groundwork to buy a championship at whatever cost is necessary. College teams are hiring player general managers and NIL consultants. The reward for a successful season is to have coaches and players sold on the auction block. We have free agency with no limits, no salary cap, no lottery to assign players, no set of consistent rules to insure fairness.

@meditatingmunky3824 6 ай бұрын

I love your enthusiasm, and while on paper a 5-7 statistically gives B12 a better chance at an at large bid, but let's be realistic, that extra slot is going to an SEC or B10 team 99 out of 100 times. They'll find an excuse to jump the rankings same way they did to FSU this past year, only the 10-12 slots are a lot easier to manipulate.

@Clemsonalumnus 6 ай бұрын

My brother in Christ, you have no idea what you’re talking about with Clemson. I get the feeling you have been watching college football less than a decade and know nothing about football history. Clemson is more successful over the last 50 years than any team in the current Big 12. The only team you could argue is Oklahoma State who were arguably screwed out of 2 NCG appearances during the BCS era (I mention this because I have a feeling you didn’t know this, as you only know 5-10 years of football history). Miami has very few actual fans. Look at their ratings. Also, be glad about the Big 12. You will probably be the best new G5 conference.

@grobble8954 6 ай бұрын

People reading this wrong. ACC only put in writing in their court filing that there is an amount they would take as an exit fee via buying back rights. The fact is that was always the case, FSU could always exit if they paid a fee.. Nothing has actually changed. The number theorized before was 500 to 550M, it could still be that range. Be sure the fee will be a lot b/c it must compensate the other schools and give pause to any others talking about leaving,Make schools think do they have the astronomical sum or even if they do 30M/yr for 15 years to get to 450M, they will essentially be in the same spot as staying in the ACC, if they even land a spot in B10 or SEC. Hint, SEC and B10 didn't want FSU before, that's why they didn't leave when MD did. The fitting end would for all of FSU's delusions of grandeur would be doing all this to be in the same spot over 15 years with all the fees or even better end up in the B12 and net get less over the years needed to paying the ACC fee in installments.

@malcolmjones27 6 ай бұрын

Thank You! Please repeat this for the delusional FSWho fans in the back.

@edl7454 6 ай бұрын

How much would the rest of the ACC teams pay as an exit fee?

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

There is no way the Acc let's Florida state exit without paying the whole entire exit fee! It wouldn't make good business sense to let FSU leave easily so other schools can follow. Besides that the conference's that FSU wants go for the$ doesn't want them now because they dont want to honor there contract. And where would they go to the Big 12 FSU needs to stay in the ACC and stay college football elite!

@Bishop2828 5 ай бұрын

I agree that FSU paying the strength to leave would be pointless for them. It wouldn’t be a win by any means. However FSU’s overall argument will prove to be right and in just a few years, every team still in the ACC that actually cares about being respected will wish FSU would have won (ie Louisville, NCSt, Miami). Let’s say FSU loses and is deemed to pay $30 mil per year back to the ACC, once that $30 mil is divided amongst 16 to 17 teams, they are getting an additional less than $2 mil per year. $2 mil is still going to leave every ACC school $30 to $40 mil behind every other SEC and B10 school in annual revenue and likely $15-$25 mil behind every B12 school after their renegotiation is open in 6 yrs (maybe less with their lawsuit against ESPN right now over their GOR). At that rate, the ACC will essentially become the ConfUSA or MountainWest. Those rooting against FSU are basically holding the banner of CRAB MENTALITY! In other words the criticism against FSU is “guys we all agreed on a contract that IS going to kill us all. Yes we are getting left behind. No we will never win in football again. But stop whining and let just die happily and quietly.” You all are ragging FSU for fighting back but you’ve never admitted that the ACC is fucked regardless of whether they beat FSU in court or not. An FSU win means it’s a quicker death, other teams have chance to join the Big 12, SEC, or B10 and live! FSU loses it’s a slow 13 year death of the ACC. And once the CFB playoff changes again, ESPN the ACC will only get 1 automatic qualifier like other G6 conferences while the B10 and SEC will have at least 2 each. ESPN will drop the ACC Network anyway citing a lack of revenue and the ACC will be nothing in the world of CFB! So congrats to all of your celebrating SLOW DEATH!

@user-lu8fy1vo3p 6 ай бұрын

Any conference that extends beyond 16 members seems destined to splinter apart eventually.

@Agzilla1999 6 ай бұрын

I think this is true for just about any conference not named SEC/B1G.

@pavankat 6 ай бұрын

the schools joined for a share of the media revenue. it's not about anything else. and the schools were added for their academic standing (if big 10) and market. Rutgers wasn't great, but damn it has a train that goes direct to NYC in 45 minutes and most of its grads work in the new york city area.

@peters822 6 ай бұрын

Only if a SEC/b1g offers an invite. Otherwise, I assume the biggest paycheck is within the B12 and there is no reason to leave that.@@Agzilla1999

@josephcernansky1794 5 ай бұрын

WOW!!! You sure do live in the past!!! Ever hear of LEAGUE play?!!!! What was that you were talking about? "Conference realignment?" Is that something that happened like in history? A century ago? Or was that something BEFORE they invented that weird idea of "conferences" before anybody paid money to watch Educational Corporations field teams that telecommunication companies (aka media) paid outrageous money for content so they could sell airtime to advertisers?

@jspiderflash5167 5 ай бұрын

I hate to say this but congress started this by passing the NIL bill, don’t get me wrong. I love the players getting paid but they needed to give the NCAA a 3-5 warning to figure it out and then it became a joke. I understand why Texas and Oklahoma left the SEC. It’s just sad!!!

@badgerbournemouthfan5408 6 ай бұрын

If the ACC goes BIG 12 will become an G5 conference. You want the ACC to survive. I'm a BIG 10 fan and I hate what's happening to college football.

@tracejones5952 6 ай бұрын

It really is too late at this point.

@nathangibson2114 6 ай бұрын

SEC fan. Same and I agree,this sucks.

@phillipolsen1262 6 ай бұрын

B12 fan. We're already a G5 conference. Not that we have bad football teams, just no blue bloods so we'll be pushed out by the P2.

@brothermouzone1307 6 ай бұрын

Why? If you want the ACC to survive? You need to come up with FSU getting $100 million a year.😂😂😂

@travisclementsmith6949 6 ай бұрын

SEC: UT, OU, MU, A&M; B10: NU, USC, UW, OU, UCLA Those conferences are to blame, telling other conferences what their best path to relevancy is, is very rich.

@mikemccabe8015 6 ай бұрын

Just ran a scenario on the new CFP playoff using ESPN's way-too-early top 25. The extra at-large bid went to Alabama. Arizona was close as the runner up. Sadly, the majority of the time that extra at-large bid is gonna go to an SEC or Big 10 team

@ThatGuyz82 6 ай бұрын

Man... The Big 12 a year and a half ago, seemed like the worst spot to be. Now it is clearly the best (among the non-oligopoly standing conferences).

@grobble8954 6 ай бұрын

Lol..B12 is the minor league

@user-fm3pq2qh1t 6 ай бұрын

@@grobble8954:I suspect most Big 12 teams would beat and embarrasse your team. Low hanging fruit wants to discredit other teams so that they feel important..Hoping to become relevant.

@grobble8954 6 ай бұрын

@user-fm3pq2qh1t The B12 is a glorified G5, full of former mid majors and also runs from the P12 or schools that weren't wanted. If the ACC folds the B12 will again get the garbage scraps the B10 and SEC don't want. B12 fans are delusional, you are the kiddie table, B12 and SEC are the adults.

@grobble8954 5 ай бұрын

@@user-fm3pq2qh1t Big 12 is a glorified G5 of also rans P12 teams and recent mid majors. The delusion of grandeur of B12 blowhards is only matched by the FSU blowards, Tney are crying about being in the ACC, though they are there b/c nobody wanted them during the many rounds of realignment. The B12 is full of teams that nobody wanted,

@frictionhitch 6 ай бұрын

You do know that inform doesn't have an E in it, right?

@troutriver58 6 ай бұрын

everyone is allowed at least one mistake. ;-)

@drakectoll 6 ай бұрын

I feel like the sarcasm was pretty obvious here…

@Niquilly 6 ай бұрын

🤓

@byuphil 6 ай бұрын

I think perhaps it's like the 3 Rs, reading, writing, and arithmetic

@frictionhitch 6 ай бұрын

@@drakectoll I thought you knew but you know...Truck Stops GO UTES

@06Umiami 6 ай бұрын

Doesn’t sound like much of a settlement. ACC will entertain a negotiation - doesn’t guarantee negotiation, nor does it settle on a dollar amount. Negotiation could go on ad nauseam. Sounds to me like FSU should reject the offer and just move forward with the lawsuit likely has the upper hand.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@paulhenley6073 6 ай бұрын

They - got their way-, what is this kindergarten? This is a major business/legal affair….its part of the legal process, not an entitlement…..

@nolefan91 6 ай бұрын

It gonna wind up being the Big 10 and the SEC eventually. Look at the merge of the two for the streaming service. It’s only a matter of time.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

It's a terrible Idea and they would lose there a$$!

@nolefan91 6 ай бұрын

They already control the sport. College football as we knew it will never be the same. It’s all about the money.

@kshaad9526 6 ай бұрын

If the Big 12 is reduced to a G5 after the ACC is dismantled. College football is essentially dead. I wouldn’t watch any games involving sec & big ten schools. Greed is going to lead to the collapse of the sport.

@culpforarkansas_RocketLeague 6 ай бұрын

UNC vs Kansas as a conference game would be huge.

@pavankat 6 ай бұрын

i wonder if the big ten will schedule games like michigan vs alabama at the same time as the big 12 vs acc games lol. that would be savage.

@markp7262 6 ай бұрын

Do you mean basketball or soccer?

@therealanonymous12 5 ай бұрын

Yes, in basketball 2 of the 5 greatest of all time

@SeabrookCoog 6 ай бұрын

AWESOME WIN! GO COOGS!!!

@kyllerkill 6 ай бұрын

It’s not that the acc is weak. It’s that they have big enough schools that say 36 million is not good enough. They’re worth and deserve more than that. The big 12 is happy making 35 million fsu, Clemson, Miami are not. The only teams that knew they were worth more in the big 12 left for the sec.

@TheFranchiseCA 6 ай бұрын

The Big XII is made of schools who are basically peers and understand they aren't getting B10/SEC invites, yes. The ACC problem is that a few of their members are going to get those invites sooner or later, while a few others are burdens in a way no Big XII school is.

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

@@TheFranchiseCA FSU alum here. You are totally correct. There are a fair number of schools in the ACC that basically don’t give a damn about football and drag the conference down.

@Veretax 6 ай бұрын

Oh don't misunderstand me where is likely not a school in the Big 12 including the new Pac-12 editions who is not interested in making more than say 35 million a year. The reality is they're trying to not kill the goose which is what the ACC did when it tried to add schools that are way outside its footprint

@davidlemons5650 6 ай бұрын

..wrong on the G5 comment. The Big 12 has some elite schools. The Big 12 is stronger than the ACC. See how that went with the PAC. Minus a few big brands, the ACC is WAC

@benjaminhawkes6693 6 ай бұрын

Safe to say the big-12 will never get three teams into the playoff.

@ammoniawilder4451 6 ай бұрын

The big 10 is more watered down than ppl like to point out. Just my opinion,.. based on facts tho. Go dawgs

@knighttemplar221 6 ай бұрын

FSU fan here….as a follower and fan of my noles…..hopefully CU follows us. If CU is denied entry by any conference we choose to request entry, then FSU should remain independent as before with CU adjoined to us. Btw….I despise both B10 and SEC

@powell4661 6 ай бұрын

Good , enjoy being independent or in the Big12 or remaining in the ACC

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@@powell4661The Acc is going to be fine if the Sec and big 10 want to become a super conference it will be a disaster.

@matthewhodges9083 5 ай бұрын

ACC would rather fight with one of their members but not for a playoff spot , down with that conference

@teeduck 6 ай бұрын

ACC will remain 12 team conference. Won’t join big 12

@frictionhitch 6 ай бұрын

Will Stanford CAL and SMU get some of that settlement money even if they never play a game in the ACC?

@TheFranchiseCA 6 ай бұрын

They are ACC schools, so yes. But if the conference is in bad enough shape that they don't see it as meeting their future needs, it would make sense to give some or all of that up to be let out and return to a rebuilding Pac-12 or go independent.

@frictionhitch 6 ай бұрын

@@TheFranchiseCA It really seems increasingly likely to me that there is going to a be a 4th conference of "left behinds" with a PAC12/ACC war chest probably headed by Stanford.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@@frictionhitchThere is no way the Acc let's Florida state exit without paying the whole entire exit fee! It wouldn't make good business sense to let FSU leave easily so other schools can follow. Besides that the conference's that FSU wants go for the$ doesn't want them now because they dont want to honor there contract. And where would they go to the Big 12 FSU needs to stay in the ACC and stay college football elite!

@frictionhitch 6 ай бұрын

@@jmath1978 I would agree with you if not for the fact that all of the evidence screams otherwise. I wouldn't blame you for this line of thinking 1 year ago but it is clear now that what you said won't happen.

@billsparks5255 6 ай бұрын

100% BS

@drakectoll 6 ай бұрын

You’re smarter than the ACC’s lawyers?

@NASAghostgang 6 ай бұрын

This is all in public documents the ACC put out saying it is possible for FSU to reach a settlement. The ACC is likely to with FSU in the near future. This is all widely being reported by credible people not just this Locked on Big 12 guy.

@benjaminhawkes6693 6 ай бұрын

1. FSU's grounds in Florida aren't available to everyone. 2. A settlement with one party means nothing to another. NOTHING. The amount can be looked at as a minimum probably, but it certainly doesn't represent a maximum. You do not have a legal right to settle for the same amount.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@benjaminhawkes6693 6 ай бұрын

@jmath1978 that's what you got from that? I wasn't really suggesting the wouldn't but... Texas and ou paid less than the exit fee, Maryland paid less than the exit fee.

@user-sl2rn9he2j 5 ай бұрын

If the ACC gets this money from Florida State who gets this money?

@ptg7712 5 ай бұрын

Ultimately, GREED will destroy you. Never fails. just destroyed the P12 and will destroy others.

@Goodday24823 6 ай бұрын

Being the 3rd conference in a 2 conference race, is well.......

@jholmes3329 6 ай бұрын

If the Big12 got Clemson, the Big12 would be a legitimate 3rd conference. Clemson has multiple championships across multiple coaches and has a young coach that just passed on the only job that stood a chance to convince him to leave. Clemson can easily be the Alabama that carries a conference under good management (ACC’s management has been laughable)

@mikeshaw4610 6 ай бұрын

For the playoff why not just take the top 12, regardless of the conference tied.

@ChrisHall803 6 ай бұрын

There is another possibility. Clemson and FSU leave, and the ACC raids the Big 12.. Anything is possible

@eking01234 6 ай бұрын

Nonsense way too late in the game.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@user-fm3pq2qh1t 6 ай бұрын

@@jmath1978: If the courts say they can leave, They will., The AGC will simply have to stick it.

@Bob-gi9nt 6 ай бұрын

Inform is not spelled with an E, as in "that last E" statement.

@UniteAgainstEvil 6 ай бұрын

Ur anne ediot.

@mickeyellison7929 6 ай бұрын

I was about to comment the same thing. LOL

@drakectoll 6 ай бұрын

Was the sarcastic tone not enough here

@karenfreed2632 6 ай бұрын

I feel that the ACC is ignored

@michaelsell6328 6 ай бұрын

Does someone want to "inform" him it begins with an I?

@powell4661 6 ай бұрын

CoacH Howard, Coach Pell , Coach Hatfield , Coach Ford fielded great teams before Dabo.

@photo2george523 5 ай бұрын

ESPN/Disney violated state of Florida Sunshine laws

@AceofCrazy89 6 ай бұрын

college football fans watching capitalism destroy their sport.

@texasscifi3431 6 ай бұрын

FSU to the B1G . Along with Clemson . The rest will scramble to the big 12. Maybe the SEC expands to Virtigna tech and North Carolina schools in markets they are not technically in.

@malcolmjones27 6 ай бұрын

Delusional… just a little bit!! 😂

@scotchsunday 6 ай бұрын

Clemson isn't going to get a B1G invite. UNC, Virgina, Miami, and FSU will get invites before Clemson because of AAU.

@malcolmjones27 6 ай бұрын

@@scotchsunday , FSU is currently not AAU certified. But, supposedly, according to FSU fans, the BIG is stating that not being AAU certified is not a deal breaker.

@scotchsunday 6 ай бұрын

@@malcolmjones27 While is true that AAU isn't a deal breaker, it is preferred or possible just stated it is not a deal breaker because not all B1G school are AAU. FSU was close last time but was left out but none the less FSU is a lot closer than Clemson to getting AAU membership. Clemson likely to the SEC despite objections from South Carolina.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@walterabbott5347 6 ай бұрын

Remaining "basketball" schools will be left in the ACC. At that time the ACC needs to merge with the Big 12. That way Big 12 will become a great basketball conference, but mediocre in football. FSU, Clemson, Miami are the football schools that will be gone to the Big 10 or SEC. UNC, probably to SEC as SEC wants into state of NC. All the others will be locked into the ACC, a G5 low tier conference. So, ACC becomes merger meat for Big East or Big 12.

@Veretax 6 ай бұрын

There is no way that I see the ACC and Big 12. The Big 12 May pick the carcass for schools that may want that are remaining leaving behind the Wake Forest and perhaps even the Dukes 10 decide to dissolve the ACC and join the Big East Big East

@thelarson1000 6 ай бұрын

Big 12 is irrelevent

@user-fm3pq2qh1t 6 ай бұрын

Not included myself. I'm first of all a Sooner fan, but my conference of my loliity remains Big 12,I suspect always will.

@lakeland749 6 ай бұрын

A 16 team playoff would be better.

@mbo7613 6 ай бұрын

With the latest additions at half shares for UO/UW, does anyone believe those two programs will vote to allow a new full share admittee without being full share themselves? Additionally, if players win the legal right to share media proceeds prior to these programs (possibly FSU included) becoming full share, what happens then? The media rights side of the contract will need to be increased significantly to get this done. FSU will need to follow the money if they are attempting to capitalize their hefty exit fee.

@James-fh9zd 6 ай бұрын

Locked on big 12 guy....Funny how you mention Clemson will suck if Dabo goes away and they will be just like Kansas State. Clemson has 3 football national championships and 4 in men's soccer. The only national championship Kansas State has is from their Cheerleading team in 2022. I do believe the ladies on the team are called the "Classy Cats".

@mikemccabe8015 6 ай бұрын

And all 3 of those football championships (cuz soccer doesn't matter) came from an era involving Trevor Lawrence. Clemson has relatively sucked before and after that era.

@James-fh9zd 5 ай бұрын

@@mikemccabe8015only 1 was under Trevor Lawrence.. noob. Do some research before you post.

@mikemccabe8015 5 ай бұрын

@@James-fh9zd wow you got me with that noob comment. alright here's some research for you: their national championships came in 1981 (which doesn't count because it was more than 40 years ago) and then 2016 and 2018 which were both under Dabo. So yes, Clemson will suck if Dabo leaves.

@James-fh9zd 5 ай бұрын

@@mikemccabe8015 , Easy there, old timer. Why didn’t you conduct the research before posting, rather than doing it afterward?? Makes zero sense. And why does a National Championship in college football not count after 1980 again?? What is your smart (under 40 year) reasoning for this?? By that logic the big12 has 0 National Championships with any of its current football members. Tell me, are you just a big12 homer or do you just like swinging on Kansas States sack?

@mikemccabe8015 5 ай бұрын

@@James-fh9zd I'm gonna let you in on a secret your little 12 year old mind probably doesn't know about: the BCS era. Prior to the BCS, national championships didn't exist because a bunch of reporters who didn't know anything about the sport got together and cast votes on who they thought should be the national champion whether it was merited or not. If you want a good example, just look at BYU's "national championship" in 1984 a mere 3 years removed from Clemsons in 1981.

@cougsjohnson1 6 ай бұрын

Washington State couldn't have picked a better time to be a new Force in College Basketball 🏀. Combined with the success in Football, WSU looks really really desirable right now !!

@teeduck 6 ай бұрын

They do? To whom? ACC teams don’t want to travel to the Palouse. Big 12 said No. pAC 2 should cherry pick Mtn West. Stop at 8 teams.

@danhauser3361 6 ай бұрын

Merge and set up divisions…the only answer….expect ND,NC,Va,Clem…to be gone…Miami..a maybe…..leaving 12 teams to develop a division ….with Cal/Stanford/SMU going to the West….and Cinn./WVa. /UCF going to the East…….PAC2 an option ..down the line. I know…makes too much sense!

@benjaminhawkes6693 6 ай бұрын

I don't think ND is going to leave. They aren't upset by FSU, UNC, Clemson, or Miami leaving. They'll stay until 2029 unless the ACC loses much more.

@danhauser3361 6 ай бұрын

ND will call their own shot …likely go Independent if they get the right money on their own . The others need a conference and would be more equal in competitiveness! Let FSU NC/Va/Clem go..but not many good teams left to add from other conferences on B12 level …face it …not many of any of the remaining schools are on SEC/B10 level….a few think they are …but are delusional ! We will see…but a splintering will then occur …forcing a scramble by some ! B12 just needs two teams to compete with WVa..and UCF…with VaTech and Miami the obvious …with NC St / Duke / Louisville / Pittsburgh as good matches for BB for sure ! Time will tell …Cal / Stanford and SMU make more sense for B12. Logistics by itself! That’s why East / West…even Central divisions of the combined leftovers makes greatest fit allowing for East/Atlantic /…Central / B12. Or West/ Pacific divisions makes all the sense in the world …allowing local regional match ups and lower cost ! Somebody better be trying to bring sanity to this mess!

@RCJH2022 6 ай бұрын

9:49 Fandule is where I go when Rent is coming up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@clemsonowns 6 ай бұрын

Clemson now has staying power. And matchups with the big boys will outdraw half the teams in the current SEC/B1G. Winning big for a while builds a brand even when the program is down. Nobody cared about UF or FSU before the 90s but now they’re house names. Just like Clemson now. And we were a top 25 program before Dabo so that take was off.

@arronfrazier7873 6 ай бұрын

Its not about that mostly! If that was the case, the B10 wouldn't have went after USC and UCLA which gives them the state of California and its 1# populations of 35 million people. The state of Texas is 2# population with its 32 million people but Texas and A&M are already in the SEC. That leaves 3# Florida at 23 million people! The SEC is already in Florida with UF! The B10 next move is to become truly coast to coast by getting into the Southeast in the 3rd largest state of Florida with Miami and FSU. Rutgers and Maryland were added to the B10 for a reason. NYC urban area and DC/Baltimore/VA area!

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

@@arronfrazier7873That is what I think will happen, too. Unfortunately, for Clemson, a very fine school, they are in a small state that already has an SEC school so I just don’t see the SEC extending an offer to them. And neither will the B1G who is looking at major media markets and geographical regions. If they pick up the two Florida schools, they may decide that that is enough and they are done.

@arronfrazier7873 6 ай бұрын

@@505premoto When the B10 went after USC and UCLA as a Miami fan who lives here in Florida, I knew exactly were things were going. The B10 is going national! They are going for populated states and huge tv markets! The SEC hacks here in Florida saying, we like it regional! CFB didn't blow up in the 80's and 90's with Miami and FSU being regional on Tv and cable. They blew up because it was national! The former B10 commissioner who just went to the NFL who brought USC and UCLA to the B10. He worked in the NFL in the administration for 20 years. He understood want was coming with tv, streaming and etc. How could the B10 maximize profit with the TV people? HMMM! Lets get our footprint out West in the 1# population state. As I said, the got Rutgers who hasn't won shit in CFB neither Maryland. Why? Viewers, streamers, heavily populated states and cities! Don't fret! I believe Miami and FSU will first be invited followed by Clemson and UNC. I'm originally from Chicago! I'm a MidWest guy living here in Florida! I'm here to tell. The B10 people said about California with getting USC and UCLA, we have alot of B10 alums and fans from the MidWest and East coast living out in California. News flash! There are a ton of B10 fans and alums who live here in Florida on the West Coast where I live and on the East coast. Florida also is closer to the base B10 schools and its EST!

@markp7262 6 ай бұрын

Don't bury the dead horse, let it stink up the place for everyone else, especially the Big 12. It reminds me of the beginning scene of Little Giants with Ed O'Neill and Rick Moranis. Rick plays the nerdy younger brother to Ed's star athlete. When they were kids, they used Rick's football to play, but didn't pick him, even his brother. So he got to sit and watch everyone else play with his ball. OSU and WSU, the big boys have already showed their contempt for you by not picking you. Torpedo their game; take your ball and go home.

@Phislammajamma4ever 6 ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️

@nathangibson2114 6 ай бұрын

The big 12 needs to make some kind of partnership with the ACC that makes sense so that they can be the next tier down. Because the SEC and Big Ten are gonna break away and leave everybody else in the dust unless you guys get proactive. It’s over, the race to best conference is over. The Big Ten and the SEC are the kings. Nobody else even comes close. Quit trying to do something that you can’t do. Make the best step down conference and competition that you can. I say all this as a SEC fan that hates this realignment bullcrap.

@lastpme 6 ай бұрын

Nope…the ACC is dead..💀

@TheFranchiseCA 6 ай бұрын

Here's the really bad news: it's not over. Next, either the Big Ten or SEC takes the biggest names from the other.

@johnnyhutchinson5394 6 ай бұрын

Nah, the ACC can rot.

@travisclementsmith6949 6 ай бұрын

In college football, it may be pretty close to over, but they lose too much to completely break away. Plus, other sports still exist.

@roderickhogan4566 6 ай бұрын

A partnership is not going to help the power 2 still will rule

@charliegadson8001 6 ай бұрын

Iowa state is now top 40 offensively

@InterLangCenter 6 ай бұрын

Hey man, what happened to your national show???

@elijahhodges4405 6 ай бұрын

One thing I know is they all play harder in the big dance. If Houston was tough during the year they are going to be impossible to beat during March Madness.

@brianmiller4258 6 ай бұрын

This guy is the biggest wannabe in sports media. He just spews baseless opinions with little actual information. Not a serious media person, just a loud, fast talker looking for clicks. Don’t come to this guy to get informed, come to him to be “enformed.”

@armoredupknight2808 6 ай бұрын

Notre Dame Olympic sports will be up for grabs too.

@nolessgifted6333 6 ай бұрын

Big 12 ain’t ish without Texas and Oklahoma.

@rx2878 6 ай бұрын

If, If, If. Clickbait. Man Fabricates a lot.

@NASAghostgang 6 ай бұрын

Although he does click bait, sometimes this is widely being reported by credible sources right now. The ACC is likely to settle with FSU in the near future.

@blackreign487 6 ай бұрын

The Big 10 has only had 3 national championships (Ohio State 2/Michigan 1) since the BCS until now. They are the most overrated conference in college football. The Big 12 had (2) Texas and Oklahoma. SEC has 15 championships (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU. Only the SEC can brag. Big 10, you can't, even TCU beat Michigan in the playoffs 😂😂😂😂 Even though Michigan was cheating 😂😂😂😂

@GalathNox 6 ай бұрын

It's all but certain that UNC will be either in the B1G or SEC with a split from the ACC. With that said, as a Tar Heels fan, I have to admit a big part of me wants to see them in the Big12. Talk about a college basketball super conference! Especially if Duke follows.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@GalathNox 6 ай бұрын

@@jmath1978 You're wrong about other conferences not wanting them. The B1G definitely wants them. The SEC wants them, but Florida may try to hold them back. FSU trying to leave doesn't hurt their value in the eyes of those other conferences because they understand how sh!tty that ACC/ESPN contract is. Besides, FSU is too big of a name in football for other conferences to hold that contract and the ACC GOR against them.

@richardoneal1055 6 ай бұрын

PACC Conference.

@mikeshaw4610 6 ай бұрын

I suspect the number will be between 200k and 250k. It’s more than Florida State pro wants to pay but it settles the suits and let’s then leave.

@jmath1978 6 ай бұрын

@grobble8954 6 ай бұрын

CFP 12(5 +7) the 7 at large teams are going to be likely 3 each from the B10 & SEC, which would be 6 of the 7 spots, Worse case scenario they get 5 of the 7 at large bids. ND will get a bid most years, as they will find away to do it as long as they have 9 wins. ND draws viewers, those that hate them that want to see them lose and their delusional fan base though they haven't won a significant bowl game in 20 years and have been whipped in all BCS/CFP appearances

@dfausti66 6 ай бұрын

So, does Shultz anticipate leveraging his position with the playoffs to bring the Mountain West into the PAC 12 as a power conference?

@Briannorton163 6 ай бұрын

if the ACC colapses then are we talking a 4+8 format?

@ranger135 6 ай бұрын

Probably not the SEC Commish has made it very clear that he wants not Auto bids he has also been quoted that he want not G5 schools included

@jackmehoff8556 6 ай бұрын

Why are you better for information on the ACC than the ACC locked on? Lmao

@naujelbr 6 ай бұрын

The Big 12 has not asserted itself as the 3rd best conference at all. That's only happened in Big 12 fans heads. Big 12 is a group of 5 league.

@austin_l 6 ай бұрын

The B1G has 3 teams. Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State; everyone else in that conference is straight nothing.

@scotchsunday 6 ай бұрын

Like who is 3rd if not the Big 12?

@mickeyellison7929 6 ай бұрын

The Big 12 just needs a couple of schools to step up and establish themselves as powerhouses. Fifteen years ago, nobody considered Clemson a household name brand football program. They were good, but not elite. They became elite by competing for titles annually. If a couple of the Big 12 schools make consistent runs in the upcoming exanded playoffs, the TV money will come. The networks will give money to the BIg 12, so long as it is competitive. All this talk about the power 2 conferences is nonsense. The Big 12 is every bit as good, with one exception. It doesn't have the top of the conference brand names that the SEC and Big Ten have. The Big Ten has Ohio St, Michigan, USC, Oregon. The SEC has Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma and Texas. After those schools, the remaining members are on track with the caliber of teams that the Big 12 has. The biggest difference is that almost every team in the Big 12 puts out just as good a quality of the Power 2 conference schools (with the exception of those mentioned above). Plus, the Big 12 doesn't have the bottom feeders like the other two conferences have. You could say that perhaps Houston fits the bill. But the Big 12 doesn't have the Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana, Rutgers types.

@cacogenicist 6 ай бұрын

Purdue and Rutgers would be middle of the pack programs in the Big-12. Penn State would be at least a co-favorite to win the Big-12 this season.

@pavankat 6 ай бұрын

ucf, usf, unc, florida st, miami, virginia, v tech, georgia tech make more sense in the big 10. the acc can just fill up with american teams.

@roderickhogan4566 6 ай бұрын

Not really

@pavankat 6 ай бұрын

@@roderickhogan4566 true. they belong in the american lol

@scotchsunday 6 ай бұрын

UCF in the B1G? Ha not!! Not a AAU school

@pavankat 6 ай бұрын

@@scotchsunday true. I guess USF then.

@jayboogie1295 6 ай бұрын

Acc has not offered to settle. The espn contract allows them to opt out and fsu is a part of the tv deal and if fsu leaves, espn opts out and lowers the tv deal thus causing the acc damages. Expect the acc to ask for over 1 billion in damages if fsu wants to leave

@noles9998 6 ай бұрын

But according to the ACC FSU isn’t worth that much, that is their argument so what judge would expect them to pay more than what they are worth. Sorry buddy wishful thinking

@johnnyhutchinson5394 6 ай бұрын

You hold onto that if it helps.

@NoleNerdZA01 6 ай бұрын

The ACC in their amended complaint literally said FSU is free to buyout their media rights and leave. Now it’s time to just found out what that price is. It isn’t 550 million because FSU said they weren’t paying that which started all of this and we know it’s at least more than 150 million because the BOT members said they would pay that tomorrow. Get ready for the implosion of the ACC because just as this video points out, as soon as that price tag is set and FSU is gone, the other premier institutions will be following

@benjaminhawkes6693 6 ай бұрын

Damages aren't overly speculative, they must be demonstrated. If ESPN declines now you have to get them to say it was because FSU left, and they won't do that. Even after they decline: 1. Other schools will probably have left, each of those share some part of the damages. 2. The ACC will get SOME TV money, perhaps even more TV money in a streaming deal than they get now. PAC was just offered slightly more than the ACC's primary rights agreement. 3. The best move for the ACC would have been to lock in that extension long ago. Either get that yes or no. If ESPN had said yes then and wanted to renegotiate after FSU left, the ACC case for damages is much stronger... tangible... realistic. In this instance it is unlikely a court finds damages from FSU leaving when ESPN likely already hinted they weren't interested in 2021.

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

Sorry, guy, but the ACC and FSU will settle on a number, around $250m, and they will separate. It might happen by Memorial Day. It is not FSU’s fault or responsibility for anything that ESPN does or doesn’t do. The ACC has the contract with ESPN, not FSU. I know you are devastated to hear that but that’s life.

@itsmeevan027 6 ай бұрын

"Enform" 😂😂😂😂😂

@slayer7682 6 ай бұрын

If the mountain west merges with the PAC2, and there still able to keep the PAC in the name, does this jump all the mountain west teams up to the so-called power conference

@BBNBRM-mt4gs 6 ай бұрын

It turns the PAC into a mid-major.

@slayer7682 6 ай бұрын

@@BBNBRM-mt4gs that would drop Ore St and WASH st down also

@ranger135 6 ай бұрын

Unless something happens, no the powers to be have made it very clear they want just a P4 I'm sure WSU president proposal is trying to keep them a power conference with a merger with the MWC or a rebuilt PAC. Spanky will be policing against it and trying to completely ex out any G5 a spot in the playoff

@ericlofroos2405 6 ай бұрын

Go NOLES!

@charlieh108 6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, increasingly so, you cannot believe anything out of Drakes mouth. It's all click bait. His next video might be, " Baylor girls are wildest of the new Big 12".

@wa1w511 6 ай бұрын

Like on the glasses Drake

@nolessgifted6333 6 ай бұрын

FSU won’t leave till 2027-28

@ChrisTesch87 6 ай бұрын

Florida State reminds me of the guy who's 5'6" and is really insecure about it... so goes out and buys a pickup and gets a huge lift package installed to "compensate" for it... but everyone see's right through him. That's what i see with Florida State (minus the constant crying, but that's obvious)

@SurferRC 6 ай бұрын

Fsu is elite

@ChrisTesch87 6 ай бұрын

@@SurferRC k

@LeaveChildrenAlone 6 ай бұрын

Lol...Inform spelled with an I not an E...no wonder you are associated with ESPN...cant spell.

@jeffreynicholson6942 6 ай бұрын

Lol that just means they can buy their rights back for the $500 million

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

LOL. Why don’t you place a large bet on it. As large as your conviction can take. This is not the time to be timid. Push all of your chips into the pot. Just think how rich you are going to be. Dare to be bold.

@jeffreynicholson6942 6 ай бұрын

@@505premoto you don’t even know what the bet would be for. You don’t put in legal briefings to the court you are willing to negotiate, that’s not how it works. Which is why nobody is reporting that. All that was is telling the court FSU can get out of the contract for $500 million

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

@@jeffreynicholson6942 Uh, that the ACC is not just willing but wanting to negotiate is what is happening. In fact, informal discussions may already be underway. FSU will dictate the terms as the ACC can not let it go to discovery. FSU will leave for $200-250m. It might be over by Memorial Day. “That’s not how it works”? Oh, really? That is exactly what happened as has been reported over and over again today on other sites. You really should look around the internet before posting. Now, go place that bet that FSU will pay $500m to exit.

@SurferRC 6 ай бұрын

@@jeffreynicholson6942itll be about a third of that

@MintNisher 6 ай бұрын

Way too much compression in your audio. Shameful.

@alanmccauley1868 6 ай бұрын

What you say in 25 minutes could have been said in 5 minutes, anti could have been more easily understood. I hate listening to you .

@TheFrizbaloid 6 ай бұрын

You’re the perfect host for a Big XII show. You’re so delusional about the college conference landscape.

@grobble8954 6 ай бұрын

What people seem to forget as they suck up the FSU delusions of grandeur, is that FSU is in the ACC while MD left b/c nobody wanted them. Hint, B10 & SEC still have shown no interest in them. B10 has made it clear which ACC schools they were trying to coax when MD left, FSU was not on the list. SEC in their expansion went after and got 4 B12 school over the last decade, again FSU never a thought. FYI, the notion the ACC would accept 100 or 150M is ludicrous, the amount will be high enough to cause pause for others. Bet on many multiples of that.

@SurferRC 6 ай бұрын

B10 already offered them a spot…

@grobble8954 6 ай бұрын

@505premoto It must be sad to have everything go over your head because your not bright. FSU didn't is in the ACC crying because when the B10 and SEC were expanding nobody wanted them. FSU if they were as great as they think they are would have gotten an offer before now. If they actually believed their own delusions they could have left the ACC when MD did and paid just 32M. Again since you ate not bright B10 didn't want them. The B10 was trying to coax UNC, UVA or Gtech to leave with MD.

@grobble8954 6 ай бұрын

@SurferRC Lol..the B10 has shown no intetest ever.

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

@@grobble8954 After offering $3b to broadcast their games, Fox has a large voice in where the B1G goes next. Now that they have the super lucrative California market with the addition of USC and UCLA, they have their sights set on the 3rd largest state, Florida. In many respects, the B1G is already in Florida as hundreds and hundreds of thousands of B1G alumni, families, relatives and friends live there. The next team added to the B1G will be a Florida team in spite of your hatred.

@505premoto 6 ай бұрын

Delusions of grandeur? Really? In the past 31 years, FSU has won 3 national championships and had 3 Heisman Trophy winners. Not one school in the B1G can match that. NOT ONE. Some delusion. Say, how’d your school do?

@alexa7736 6 ай бұрын

I’m just saying this as a casual and not a fan of the ACC or big 12 but it’s clear that the ACC has more value none of the schools in the big 12 really bring eyeballs like Clemson Miami and North Carolina & Virginia but you big 12 fans can say what you like it’s your opinion even though most casuals will laugh at you for saying something like that

@lewis2871 6 ай бұрын

No one cares about most casuals. Casuals might add a tv here or there but they have no long lasting effect.

@alexa7736 6 ай бұрын

@@lewis2871 lol where the driving force of every sport casuals always run every sport just look at the Super Bowl, the most casuals ever watching the game casuals always matter.

@lewis2871 6 ай бұрын

@@alexa7736 nope. Lots of people don't care about the super bowl. That's why the had Taylor Swift there too pull non watchers in. That's why they showed her so much.

@lastpme 6 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about the ACC…

@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 6 ай бұрын

North Carolina and Virginia don't bring in more eyeballs than Big 12 unless they are playing Clemson or Miami or FSU, all of which will be gone from the ACC soon, two of those maybe to the Big 12. Objectively, UNC and Virginia do not draw football viewership, or attendance unless they are playing someone who does. This is not opinion. It is data.