Loki Season 2 Episode 4 | Recap and Spoiler Breakdown

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Alachia Queen

Alachia Queen

9 ай бұрын

My spoiler recap and breakdown of Loki Season 2 Episode 4: The Heart of the TVA.
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@auburnmann3630
@auburnmann3630 9 ай бұрын
This felt like a season finale, not an episode 4.
@MegaloBlazemon
@MegaloBlazemon 9 ай бұрын
What I suspect will happen is the explosion will just like, teleport them all back to where they were plucked from the Timeline, and then Loki will have to find a way to re-find them all. Like, theoretically without the man-made loom-structure messing with things the Multiverse probably goes back to it's natural balance. The thing I'm wondering is... Power Dampener is down so.... The desk full of Infinity Stones might suddenly not be paper-weights. I also always suspected Loki swiped one in Season 1, so he might have an active Infinity Stone in his pocket.
@Alachia
@Alachia 9 ай бұрын
I think your theory might be correct
@Jigglypoof
@Jigglypoof 8 ай бұрын
I gotta say, I really appreciate these episode breakdowns. And hearing you deconstruct each character's motivations (or lack thereof) really helps with digesting the series. Also pointing out details, like how this episode looped back to tie in with the events of the 1st episode. I'm catching up from last week and I completely missed that in my viewing today.
@DJH316007
@DJH316007 9 ай бұрын
Alachia reviews are tight!
@Alachia
@Alachia 9 ай бұрын
Lol
@whitneyt1481
@whitneyt1481 9 ай бұрын
Everything I feel about this show is exactly what you are saying! Great analysis! Glad I subscribed!
@ChristopherVaughn
@ChristopherVaughn 9 ай бұрын
Hahahaha....😆Your review was marvelous. Chef's Kiss.👏👏👏
@raimundoespectro7514
@raimundoespectro7514 9 ай бұрын
(SPOILER) I wish we would see the remainings of the people who were trapped inside the cube. Cartoonish remains would be ok for me.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k 9 ай бұрын
Marvel/Disney showing blood...??? In your dream... and in mine. :P
@cguzs2
@cguzs2 9 ай бұрын
Great recap, some of these are better than watching the episode itself. one of the recommended YT videos says that they announced Xmen, fantastic 4, secret wars, armor wars, season two of some shows, plus the ones Disney announced before, like echo, etc. it makes it hard to believe that they would accept that their shows aren't good and undo all of that. it would be great if they did, I don't think there is a TV series that I think would be missed or need to continue; it might even be better if they would go back to the original Ironman era, before space battles and nano tech and just focus on story instead of all the special effects which aren't that special anymore. Except OB, I think he and Miss Minutes should be the ones that survive.
@lavryadam4774
@lavryadam4774 9 ай бұрын
If they decided to go another route, (people on the internet have been asking for Dr Doom for some time now anyway...) I wouldn't mind them do an animated series on the origin story of Kang leading to the first "multiversal war". Seeing what they did with Ultron and the Watcher in the What If series makes me think, if they bring in good writers, I think it could be epic!
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
_if they bring in good writers_ You forgot to capitalize and boldface *IF.*
@Noble6233
@Noble6233 9 ай бұрын
Is anybody else getting ( Motoko Kusanagi ) vibes. 🤔👍😎
@oxhine
@oxhine 9 ай бұрын
Hey, Alachia! "Nice, juicy steak of a villain!" Lol. I think you underestimate the lure of a good key lime pie, though. So I was wrong about his spherical prototype being a miniature version of his spherical multiversal vessel in "Quantumania". It turns out the device was called a Throughput Multiplier. Who knew? I think Dox objected to Ravonna taking over unilaterally. That triangular boardroom was symbolic of a triumvirate council of judges, minutemen and analysts who all checked and balanced each other. Ooh, that compactor death was so squishy and drippy! Dark stuff. Great theory about Majors behind the scenes except that they've already gone full in on him as Kang in "Quantumania" where the end-credit scene reveals his endless iterations in the Council of Kangs led by his three most notable variants: Immortus, Rama-Tut and the Scarlet Centurion! Besides, the real-world video footage clearly shows the alleged victim partying at a nightclub moments after her supposed brutal assault. I think it's a lot of trumped-up hogwash.
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
Everything Everywhere All at Once, and SpiderVerse both of which this show is now cribbing from - are brilliant. It's in the way that you use it. When multiverse is driven by character and used to explore interesting themes it works. When its just a McGuffin and excuse for cameos and nostalgia like here, in No Way Home, in Flash, etc.. It does not work.
@Alachia
@Alachia 9 ай бұрын
Great comment
@rrando726
@rrando726 8 ай бұрын
This week they gave Loki the power to travel anywhere in the Universe. Loki! Mind you. So he travels to specific locations where he can find - cast members from the earlier episodes. rotfl! Not his father Odin, or his brother Thor, or his mother Frigga....nope. He reunites with Mobius and Sylvie and couple TVA agents....because in all the Universe - only *they* can....... [???????] Mind you, Kang is dead again, so....unclear.....something something time loom way finder something ??? lol.
@buddylee6203
@buddylee6203 9 ай бұрын
Miss minutes is best minutes
@honey3762
@honey3762 9 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen it, but I don’t plan on it.
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to dissing it again next week.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k 9 ай бұрын
DC has reset quite few times... Marvel has never... The MCU just can't.
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
They need to because their multiverse story is a complete screaming goat fk {thanks Taika} lol.
@Lexy-O
@Lexy-O 9 ай бұрын
As usual your review is more entertaining than the show! The story seems much more exciting when you tell it. I found it really slow except for a couple effects shots that must have drained the reduced budget. Most of the episode showed off the nice sets while the characters stopped to deliver long passages of dense convoluted expositional dialogue. I feel expositional content should be kept to a minimum and be primarily limited to early in a movie or series. What bothered me the most was a visually claustrophobic feeling and the grim tone. The shrinking cube scene triggered my claustrophobia so I had to stop and finish the episode later but I would also say there is something claustrophobic and joyless about this season and especially this episode. For me the first season worked better, with its greater production values and more of that vintage Dr Who feeling. This season I’m not really invested in any of the characters and I have buyers remorse as my Miss Minutes clock seems creepy now 😜 My favorite bit was the Oroborous reference/ joke that was so on the nose it made me laugh.
@Alachia
@Alachia 9 ай бұрын
Yeah. Miss Minutes relishing watching people be murdered full SAW style was the most disturbing thing I think I've seen all year. Totally did not expect that from a Disney production. I bet they are like ..nooooo wtf... We're trying to sell merch here!
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
She's the only character on the show who isn't completely phony. lol.
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 9 ай бұрын
You sound excited and engaged about this one.
@Alachia
@Alachia 9 ай бұрын
Because everyone and everything implodes!
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
But what you are missing is that none of it matters.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k 9 ай бұрын
Much of this series production design is based in "Fallout", specially 3 and 4. Miss Minutes is only another "Vault Boy".
@AzyxA
@AzyxA 9 ай бұрын
🎉
@NjK601
@NjK601 9 ай бұрын
I was so meh on The MCU going in, I spoiled some of Loki for myself with the trailer, wish I hadn't done that with hindsight, also I wonder if the automat is going to have some greater significance, twice now characters just kind of ended up there without planning it, and it just happened to be stocked full of Mobius favourite Key Lime pie.
@beldonjustbeldon952
@beldonjustbeldon952 9 ай бұрын
So, is this Kang, the Rickest Rick?
@loconius
@loconius 9 ай бұрын
Disney will only do a full reset if it improves shareholder profits…
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
I think you described Capitalism as well as the person who originated the concept. [That would be - > Karl Marx - much to the shock and horror of brainwashed Americans who think Capitalism is in the constitution of the US.]
@mrcalista722
@mrcalista722 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be too critical of Victor Timely's invention. Even if the radiation had erased him and he got to the time loop machine at the end of the walkway, it still may not have worked.
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
I don't dig this show. The so called what the F moment falls flat because this is the THIRD TIME they've killed the big bad. And he is always super lame. Loki is always shaking in his boots about mighty Kang - which itself is bullshix since all he knows of the guy is that he let Sylvie kill him, yet this guy has never been a plausible threat to the Avengers. Not ever, not at all. He's an ordinary man who may eventually invent something time travel related thru bootstrap paradox..... [also known as garden variety time travel plot hole # 42]. So what. The idea that he or the TVA could rule the Cosmos is slightly less plausible than can't shoot straight storm troopers ruling a galaxy far far away. And this character they've created as a movie star fan service for Hiddleston is no longer Loki, sorry. He is a non-thinking man's Dr. Who. Nothing more. It's as if Disney Marvel doesn't know how to tell the story from the perspective of someone who is actually not a good person, but rather good at being bad. Add two more destroyed characters in Loki and Kang to a long list of casualties, post Endgame.
@rotcev1327
@rotcev1327 8 ай бұрын
how do you not have more subscribers
@Alachia
@Alachia 8 ай бұрын
I'm a hard pill to swallow I think
@diddo9338
@diddo9338 9 ай бұрын
I do care to see who Mobius really is/was purely because I'm into Owen Wilson's performance and just want to see him have more screen time but I tell you... having the characters repeatably pose the question of "who is he really" is not a great choice as A) it's getting stale and B) it'll never live up to the hype. I don't even know what the show has going for it now in terms of a "dramatic question" because the time loop exploded (they failed), other than who is Mobius? For me I'd like some finality and hope they don't retcon this episode (AKA traveling back into the past to fix things). Preferably I'd like Loki to survive and it'd be his job to rebuild the TVA with all new variants. But I liked the ending, it really works as an "all is lost" moment, maybe it works too well. They didn't leave us with a shred of hope, but maybe what you said is right. Maybe giving back their magic will help. Let's hope Loki has a new goal going into the third act.
@thexfile.
@thexfile. 9 ай бұрын
When they get pruned they're not dead they're just transferred to another planet. This is a kid's show so no blood or death or sex.
@Alachia
@Alachia 9 ай бұрын
Well DOX and the Minute men were not pruned .. they were given the full SAW treatment
@sobeso
@sobeso 9 ай бұрын
If it is a reset then when will it kick in for the whole marvel series? Edit : Like I remember watching Agents of Shield and the Netflix Marvel shows enjoying some aspects of all of it but in the back of my mind felt like non of these were major to the marvel movies and felt like standalones that at times probably conflicted with the marvel world but never took those aspects actually seriously, however with the Disney plus shows I although I do not watch most of them or I have not caught to most of this new phases, it feels like wow how would this really play out to the movies because what happen in this episode should actually affect all other material lol.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k 9 ай бұрын
They went full "Flash/Crysis".... laughable, yet expected. They wrote themselves into a corner. A convoluted plot, filled with broken rules and mumbo-jumbo.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 9 ай бұрын
I love you Alachia. You are an amazing and sweet person. But even you can't get me to watch another Marvel show. I've given up on Marvel.
@jamestaylor2333
@jamestaylor2333 9 ай бұрын
No way did they put a full reset of the MCU on a TV show.
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
These shows are nothing but collections of plot holes with no stakes. When you watch Secret Invasion, Multiverse of Madness, No Way Home and Loki and QuantumMania you realize that the writers don't even communicate with one another and have no idea of what is going on in the other shows, nor does it matter.
@f1b1777
@f1b1777 9 ай бұрын
Did you say 42 but that’s the Meaning of life other than that as said don’t watch coz time line thing can’t ever fix. So I just re watched you guessed it Chainsaw man lol. Oh have you watched Gen V part of the Boys universe that’s so good and what’s good about and rare it did not try and be The Boys …just take the story of one things said in the Boys show . Season 2 has been given ago.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k 9 ай бұрын
They went full "Flash/Crysis".... laughable, yet expected. They wrote themselves into a corner. A convoluted plot, filled with broken rules and mumbo-jumbo. The result has no importance for there are infinite timelines... and it is so funny that they try for us to care about infinite lives lost when lines are erased.
@CARTOONIVERSE1
@CARTOONIVERSE1 9 ай бұрын
Alachia is spot-on. This was laaaaaaaazy writing. Seems like they turned Renslayer & Miss Minutes into mere plot-devices & sexist caricatures of emotional/irrational scorned-female stereotypes. Hollyweird always pretends to lift-up "disempowered" target audiences while completely mocking them at the same time.
@Alachia
@Alachia 9 ай бұрын
Yes. That's what is so frustrating! "Sexist caricatures of emotionally/irrational scorned female stereotypes".. I love that description
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
Renslayer is really quite pathetic. Remember she failed to capture 7 year old Sylvie when she - get this - *stomped on Renslayer's toe* then took her maxi-pad [lol] and escaped with it [fuggling thing isn't even password protected against a child using it????]. I just really don't like this show even by Marvel Standards the writing constantly requires everyone like Renslaver to be a complete idiot and also requires the audience to not notice.
@CARTOONIVERSE1
@CARTOONIVERSE1 9 ай бұрын
@@rrando726- Yeah. I totally forgot about that. Pretty lame writing.
@garyg1705
@garyg1705 9 ай бұрын
im not watching loki and have no interest in doing so. but fudge me it sounds tedious with an absurd premise. nothing about this mess of timelines and variants appeals. what idiot thought that'd be fun? it just devalues every character and sounds a convoluted mess. massive bowl of poop soup.
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
Yes and no. You are completely correct that MCU did the worst possible thing with multiverse time travel - they created a storytelling universe where nothing that happens matters. Kang has been killed 3 times - season 1 of Loki, Antman 3, and Loki 2. So you have established both that he is not a threat - and that killing him doesn't matter because multiverse lets him keep coming back. And - no , the fact that he always comes back does not make him a unique threat. As there are zillions of kangs just like there are zillions of Sylvie's and Loki's and Antman, and super Ants (lol) to kill him. So what? The whole idea is broken which is why Marvel fired Waldron who created this show originally. A show which by the way has nothing to do with Loki. Loki is just being used to create Rick and Morty episodes.
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
The no part is because multiverse time travel *can be* brilliant. Everything Everywhere All at Once, and SpiderVerse both of which this show is now cribbing from - are brilliant. It's in the way that you use it. When multiverse is driven by character and used to explore interesting themes it works. When its just a McGuffin and excuse for cameos and nostalgia like here, in No Way Home, in Flash, etc.. It does not work.
@garyg1705
@garyg1705 9 ай бұрын
@@rrando726 i think the world had enough of the multiverse after the spiderman film. a fun one off for nostalgia maybe. but it seems marvel have really gone down the rabbit hole and there's no way out. the hole just needs to be filled in now if you ask me 😄.
@GSMMW
@GSMMW 9 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure the next episode is going to be Mobius selling jet skies in Florida. I think our main team is going to be back in their timelines and we will be visiting them all with Loki and Sylvie. Miss Minutes is so creepy. To bad Disney couldn't cross over and have someone prune Sabine from Ashoka lol! 🧭 Ahh Ahh Ahh Access Denied! 👆
@rrando726
@rrando726 9 ай бұрын
2:18 _We don't need a guy to rule the world_ Not clear why they want to 'rule' the world - esp. miss minutes but it really is clear that they don't need Kang. Why would they need him. Miss Minutes has all the knowledge. Kang has never been anything more than an idiot. He is only formidable - because we know he has to occupy the 'big bad' role in this now extremely tiresome cliche super hero team up albatross.
@screenname1
@screenname1 9 ай бұрын
Your reaction is exactly what the writers wanted. These are fictional identities used allegorically. They've made you call characters idiots, without knowing who they represent. Think of it like a bunch of wretched mendicant wannabes, looking to steal glory and approval, creating convoluted devices to get it. All of this Marvel sucks, Disney destroyed our franchises outrage is misplaced. They're doing exactly what they planned to do, laughing not with you, but at you. Did you know that in pagan Scandinavia, Loki (aka Skywalker) was the closest they had to a "Satan" archetype? These shows are wall-to-wall hours of pure mockery, which you pay money to watch.
@rrando726
@rrando726 8 ай бұрын
Oh I agree. But Loki is now closer to Mr. Rogers than Satan.
@thejoojooman6538
@thejoojooman6538 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this series so far. If the final 2 episodes R on par with the last 4 then this will overtake WandaVision as my favourite Disney+ show.
@screenname1
@screenname1 9 ай бұрын
Excuse the repetition. These are fictional identities used allegorically. They've made you call characters idiots, without knowing who they represent. Think of it like a bunch of wretched mendicant wannabes, looking to steal glory and approval, creating convoluted devices to get it. All of this Marvel sucks, Disney destroyed our franchises outrage is misplaced. They're doing exactly what they planned to do, laughing not with you, but at you. Did you know that in pagan Scandinavia, Loki (aka Skywalker) was the closest they had to a "Satan" archetype? These shows are wall-to-wall hours of pure mockery, which you pay money to watch.
@Kensho_81
@Kensho_81 9 ай бұрын
LBRC - Long Boring Recap. Sums up the whole experience of the 2nd season perfectly for me. C‘mon Marvel, have some better pace! 🫠
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