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@lilypippili
@lilypippili 8 жыл бұрын
you can tell he's still trying to deal with and figure out this shit. deep respect.
@jamesfoster7735
@jamesfoster7735 7 жыл бұрын
lilypippili He speaks the absolute truth
@bassproshophat8999
@bassproshophat8999 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of people in the military today think there badasses and just join to be cool especially young kids but have no clue when a big war pops off what they really got themselves into
@ThecrazyJH96
@ThecrazyJH96 7 жыл бұрын
lilypippili Wish him peace in the end
@name_ig
@name_ig 7 жыл бұрын
"One Volunteer is Worth Ten Pressed Men" so yes they do have an idea. It's the people who these men and women protect who don't
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 7 жыл бұрын
At 1:22, you can see him go back to that moment. Heart-wrenching...
@lynnedumas746
@lynnedumas746 8 жыл бұрын
He seems like a wise man. But that wisdom was hard earned.
@Reticulosis
@Reticulosis 7 жыл бұрын
Lynne Dumas what did Gabriel Garcia Marquez say? Wisdom ones to use when we no longer have need for it
@enydnightshade
@enydnightshade 6 жыл бұрын
Lynne Dumas agree. and he is still so torn. just like what he said. it's confusing. like he wants to agree or believe on one side but then also agrees with the other. just shows he had seen saw much and many things from war.
@samouellette2262
@samouellette2262 6 жыл бұрын
He went through some fucked up shit to gain his knowledge
@PrinsPrygel
@PrinsPrygel 6 жыл бұрын
Wisdom comes alone through suffering - Aeschylus
@thegob1in
@thegob1in 6 жыл бұрын
Lynne Dumas it is how wisdom is earned. The long hard road ahead.
@ValladaoMateus
@ValladaoMateus 8 жыл бұрын
1:23 That pause... Was the scariest, most real expression I've ever seen in my life.
@bronnoftheblackwater1714
@bronnoftheblackwater1714 6 жыл бұрын
CallmeMat That's the look of horror, or possibly him understanding he just took a man's life by squeezing a trigger.
@manydman
@manydman 6 жыл бұрын
Reliving the moment
@dillpickle4558
@dillpickle4558 6 жыл бұрын
Gave me fucking chills
@napluvr4173
@napluvr4173 6 жыл бұрын
for that second lonnie was back in 'Nam pulling that trigger all over again.
@Tavis15ify
@Tavis15ify 5 жыл бұрын
Don't see how it's so scary, he was back there in that moment. Obviously most of you haven't had a near death experience. Never experienced the moments that slow down where you can see every millisecond as if it was a day, almost like you are god fucking with time itself.
@conorhill9758
@conorhill9758 8 жыл бұрын
"The people that have all the money will never have to fight for their freedom, they got us to do that, they got the poor people to do that, they got the stupid idiots to do that" So god damn true
@seabassheredia7251
@seabassheredia7251 7 жыл бұрын
CJ Hill Look at Donald Trump he got 5 military deferments from being drafted,
@GrassRoach
@GrassRoach 7 жыл бұрын
Reffo News who?
@jweezyf0sheezy1
@jweezyf0sheezy1 7 жыл бұрын
The president and those in Congress should never have the power to vote on war unless they've been in it.
@cloroxbleach6344
@cloroxbleach6344 7 жыл бұрын
CJ Hill cough cough Donald trump
@puffinpearcings6444
@puffinpearcings6444 7 жыл бұрын
Clorox Bleach bad timing bro
@thedelia101
@thedelia101 8 жыл бұрын
poor man. these veterans went through so much and the lack of post-programs and aid not provided by the government for these veterans makes me sick.
@policebear88320
@policebear88320 8 жыл бұрын
+testenten ....Did you look up that statistic? I don't think you did. I think you just posted a comment. Because the amount of federal-level action being taken to create more sustainable programs for veterans such as PTSD dogs, medicine, and other post-war related symptoms has increased as of late. Hell, that's the whole reason we found out how good dogs were at assisting with not only PTSD but also with Anxiety.
@merquiadesmclellan2800
@merquiadesmclellan2800 8 жыл бұрын
+majmunko23 more to it then that. but I know what you mean. the problem is that this world doesn't function without war... we are Godless. but I think its 85% of the time we have spent on Earth we've been at war. I'd say more then that. there's always war, no changing it.you can argue if it's right or just, but its going go happen. so you still fight for your country and family because war is happening regardless of you. I'm not lecturing you lol I know it probably seemed like it. I agree, but there's nothing that can be done. that's why I'll serve. God bless man
@jameshoffer2137
@jameshoffer2137 8 жыл бұрын
+majmunko23 you have no fucking clue about that entire war do you, it started because the northern Vietnamese which were communists were invading the democratic south Vietnam and slaughtering thousands people and to save them we went in but the north had the advantage so we and millions of people from south Vietnam lost
@mrdean171
@mrdean171 7 жыл бұрын
War has changed a lot actually. What we see today are hardly wars. The farther back you go in history the worse, more violent and more brutal war was. People today couldn't even imagine what the world used to be like, we are living in the most peaceful time in human history. You think syria is bad? Go read about what the mongols would do to the people they conquered, go read about a guy named tamerlane. Really people should be so grateful for the peaceful times we live in.
@sloththegammer1975
@sloththegammer1975 7 жыл бұрын
MoMoneyMoBUCKETS soldiers coming back today are affected way different from previous wars, one of my favorite subs was in the Vietnam war (drafted) he knew this one lady at the airport right (flight attended or something idk), and he would always talk to her every time he flew since he returned from his war, he noticed once the soldiers coming back aren't happy or excited to be home like how he was and others were, she said something like "this war has done something to these boys, these aren't my boys coming home" it was surreal how he explained it
@LeGronk
@LeGronk 7 жыл бұрын
just the way he talks, man. damn. it's stayed with him a long, long time. I have a lot of respect for this man, I feel him very much.
@LeGronk
@LeGronk 7 жыл бұрын
oh and everyone commenting about the bleeps: you're all retarded, seriously. how fucking dumb are you.
@TheNonSmokingTire
@TheNonSmokingTire 7 жыл бұрын
how does he feel?
@Desolate-Utopia
@Desolate-Utopia 8 жыл бұрын
Lonnie seems like an incredible man, he deserves much respect. I don't know what kind of person he is, but you can tell he's really thought a lot, and struggled with this for his entire life. Veterans will always have my respect. Fighting for your country is noble, but we can't neglect our veterans after they come home. Killing another person, or being in combat takes a tole.
@Asifk88
@Asifk88 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, i hope he can forgive himself, he truely seems remorseful,and i believe he should be forgiven
@kurbasas4843
@kurbasas4843 6 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Jacobson dafuq are you transvestite?
@NeWarKREPPAnj
@NeWarKREPPAnj 6 жыл бұрын
+Berüchtigt187 er 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bakeraus
@bakeraus 6 жыл бұрын
I believe once you send a person to another country to fight a war you have already destroyed their soul. If you are fighting on your own soil that's different because you are fighting against an invasion. Smaller countries do need a hand from other allies from time to time but no one is fighting for freedom anymore.
@eagle3676
@eagle3676 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Mackrell you idiots created the damn caliphate of Daesh you created the evil what don't you get about that? And you supported Iraq for a long time before you made the excuse of WMDs to invade the land and made it much damn worse and a breeding ground for terroristic activity. Your shenanigans caused the existence of Daesh, Al Qaeda and Taliban. Usama Bin Laden and Mullah Umar were your operatives. You also don't do shit against Israel who is committing genocide against Palestinians and Also the Saudis who are known to fund terrorism and cause so much problems for their citizens and the middle East. USA has no damn moral high ground to stand on. You are not fighting any evil you are begetting it. And let's be real US doesn't want the end of Daesh it wants the end of Assad's rule in Syria for their own rich people benefits. Your soldiers are not fighting and dying for the American people, they are not fighting for the good of the world or USA or Syria they are just fighting to make rich Americans that much more richer. That's all there is to the agenda of USA in the middle East. USA does not care how many terrorists it creates or lives it destroys or countries it tears apart as long as the richest people in the world get richer because of the richest military in the entire damn world
@MatthewJulian14
@MatthewJulian14 8 жыл бұрын
Guys, they are censoring names. Not curses. He clearly said fuck in the video. Calm down. It's out of respect for the fallen.
@Mistah_Phrog
@Mistah_Phrog 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Julian I can see why they wouldn't want the names of dead war vets thrown around.
@anniesong951
@anniesong951 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up.
@ricknineg
@ricknineg 8 жыл бұрын
This is such a fascinating video to watch. His mannerisms, his ways of coping with killing another human being are remarkable to watch. The long pause he makes at 1:20....just eerie how the mind takes over and messes with emotions. May this vet heal from any difficulty he is going through. Thanks for your service!
@ghgtt275
@ghgtt275 8 жыл бұрын
You can see he was starting to feel that fear again.
@jostalks3681
@jostalks3681 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@dane.ted.
@dane.ted. 7 жыл бұрын
rick nineg It's sad, but no one can ever heal from something like that. Gain a different outlook and more understanding, yes. But heal? Never.
@1truthbegettingtold275
@1truthbegettingtold275 7 жыл бұрын
This is what PTSD is ^^^ aside from that its apart of life, natural coping mechanism. It never heals, it gets better, but the intensity of the thoughts and the effects vary over time. Long after the traumatic experiences have ended, like 50 years you wont be affected to the extreme you were after the first year of the experiences, but it gets back up there. Nothing really heals, everything turns into a scar.
@joermundgand
@joermundgand 5 жыл бұрын
He can't, it's the craziest thing.
@VictorGonzalez-cs8bg
@VictorGonzalez-cs8bg 7 жыл бұрын
All of these gentlemen have the same look in their eyes.
@knottsscary
@knottsscary 7 жыл бұрын
That thousand yard stare.
@VictorGonzalez-cs8bg
@VictorGonzalez-cs8bg 7 жыл бұрын
Brandon exactly.
@mrdean171
@mrdean171 7 жыл бұрын
It's called having a bad memory, none of these guys have the thousand yard stare. It takes serious, serious combat to get to that point. I mean the war in the middle east is hardly even a war, there are literally 12 year olds in chicago with more combat experience than almost all of those guys... And that's not even a joke. 6,000 dead in 15 years is the opposite of intense combat. Vietnam was much much more intense than iraq or afghanistan but still not enough for something like that. Only living americans who saw combat that intense are korean war and ww2 veterans.
@dannyd3411
@dannyd3411 7 жыл бұрын
MoMoneyMoBUCKETS Spoken like someone who's never seen combat
@spencerleelambert
@spencerleelambert 7 жыл бұрын
MoMoneyMoBUCKETS 6000 dead in our side, hundreds of thousands of dead middle easterners. you do the math
@philipofmacedon4403
@philipofmacedon4403 7 жыл бұрын
the older ones approach the topic with much more philosophy
@Garner2554
@Garner2554 7 жыл бұрын
philipofmacedon They've had a lot longer to think about it.
@Garner2554
@Garner2554 7 жыл бұрын
philipofmacedon Also the mental conditioning for warfare is a lot better these days
@skynyrdnemoy2418
@skynyrdnemoy2418 7 жыл бұрын
philipofmacedon People today are not nearly as articulate, nor do they have the vocabulary, grammar or spelling of most people born from the 80's and back.
@narusasukakashi
@narusasukakashi 7 жыл бұрын
What you just said makes no sense. Josh was far more articulate than Lonnie.
@TheMagneticChicken
@TheMagneticChicken 7 жыл бұрын
Different situations as well. The Vietnam vets and the Iran-Iraq vet were drafted. They didn't have choices in the matter. The younger guys enlisted. I don't think it's surprising that people who had the choice to join up might ultimately be less morally unsettled by the idea of killing for your country.
@scrainbow1234
@scrainbow1234 6 жыл бұрын
"I wasn't fighting for God, country, anything. All that stuff went to the wayside as soon as you...killed your first person. Everything becomes a fraud, you know? They lied to you."
@maynardnutsack
@maynardnutsack 4 жыл бұрын
".......I blasted him..." my god the way he said that made me wanna cry I feel so bad for him
@TheDungEater
@TheDungEater 3 жыл бұрын
We meet again
@jhhyuu_DaveIsNoProfessor
@jhhyuu_DaveIsNoProfessor 3 жыл бұрын
They guy he blasted right ?
@elguacamolesf4414
@elguacamolesf4414 8 жыл бұрын
he seems so hurt. i think he truly understands human dignity but is very angry at people responsible for sending him to war. touching video. thank you.
@giorgisabashvili2664
@giorgisabashvili2664 7 жыл бұрын
fun fact. shooting targets were changed from circles to man shaped boards to get soldiers used to shoot people. that's exactly what he is talking about.
@buzzkill4623
@buzzkill4623 6 жыл бұрын
Giorgi Sabashvili exactly.
@canadianguy0342
@canadianguy0342 4 жыл бұрын
It was due to improving accuracy when training by shooting at a human silhouette, not to harden them
@andyanderson100
@andyanderson100 6 жыл бұрын
When he says “they’re not real people, they’re just targets” he sounds like he’s trying to convince himself of it. Haunting.
@julianlocileno2968
@julianlocileno2968 3 жыл бұрын
He even said "That just came out", like its something he tells himself on the regular...
@Elgallo1107
@Elgallo1107 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianlocileno2968 no he was saying that’s what they used to tell him
@smupking9592
@smupking9592 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elgallo1107 it’s how he copes, tell yourself they weren’t real people in order to downplay the situation, saying it out loud even proves it more, usually you can keep coping thoughts in your head but yeah this time, he really had to say it out loud to convince himself, the long pause before it brought bad memories and he really had to focus and talk to himself in order to not cry, or feel bad, or have a PTSD episode. People who feel anxious sometimes tell themselves « Everything’s gonna be okay, just relax » out loud right? Well it’s the same thing here
@sanaa107
@sanaa107 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine killing a child. If you're not mentally strong, it will overwhelm you.
@northernsnow6982
@northernsnow6982 19 күн бұрын
​@Elgallo1107 Yes, that's what they told him. And that's why he still uses that line today to try and convince himself. Unfortunately, he doesn't believe the only lie, that is supposed to make him feel better about killing another ordinary human being. But it's the only thing he has. The reason he said he "didn't mean to", was because he's not supposed to talk about that part of it, as ordered by his superiors.
@kat-cx5ir
@kat-cx5ir 7 жыл бұрын
The way he closes his eyes as he recalls it.. You can tell he relives it every time his eyes are shut. So heartbreaking.
@coochykilla
@coochykilla 3 жыл бұрын
Youre so smart and pretty😘
@Durcy
@Durcy 3 жыл бұрын
@@coochykilla Can't say the same thing about you.
@austin5600
@austin5600 6 жыл бұрын
1:25 that's called the thousand yard stare
@satisfiedcustomer
@satisfiedcustomer 8 жыл бұрын
It's quite amazing watching these videos. Lonnie to me is by far the most alluring of them all. His nonverbal communication is so powerful; Speaking with his eyes closed, long pauses, visualizing where the bodies were of his dead comrades and pointing to where they were laying. Lonnie takes us through a journey. Emotions we see in this small clip; fear, helplessness, loneliness, regret, guilt and shame, confusion, and a belief system destroyed! His story is definitely the most captivating. Psychologically this can be broken down into many different layers.
@camwalker2296
@camwalker2296 7 жыл бұрын
"They lied to you." perfectly put sir.
@dyoni99
@dyoni99 8 жыл бұрын
The pauses he takes as he speaks make the video so much more impactful because you can tell that he's reliving it as he spoke.
@Ashish8363
@Ashish8363 8 жыл бұрын
it is so hard for the man to relive those moments....I can see that as it is so hard for him to describe it.
@ROPSaeddienPK
@ROPSaeddienPK 7 жыл бұрын
You can tell he's still dealing with what he experienced in the war
@manictiger
@manictiger 6 жыл бұрын
Some things stay with you for life.
@CRUZdot
@CRUZdot 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, this definitely brought tears to my eyes. You can here the pain in his voice, This is also very different from Josh's story--which quite frankly was terrifying to hear him talk so inhumanely about people in general
@FaithEdits
@FaithEdits 7 жыл бұрын
Jennifer C if you would have talked to this guy at joshes age he would have been the same way...
@BingusActual
@BingusActual 7 жыл бұрын
Jennifer C fuck you have you served? killed? no? then fuck off!
@SammyMakepeace
@SammyMakepeace 7 жыл бұрын
Heinrigh Stoltz shhh easy there
@jamer727
@jamer727 7 жыл бұрын
Lol you're replying to a comment from a year ago
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of younger vets say some of the same things Josh does. My great uncle, a WWII vet, talked about "missing" the war when he was younger.
@ThaAppleSlice
@ThaAppleSlice 8 жыл бұрын
It's such a strong video. Just see him closing his eyes and relive those moments to describe it.. I've so much respect for the soldiers who protected us and those who still do. For any country/nation. Cause after all. They're the ones who protect their families, friends and others who are in need of help.
@user-cv2ln4mf4k
@user-cv2ln4mf4k 7 жыл бұрын
toiletshits "Protected"
@wayfarer1101
@wayfarer1101 6 жыл бұрын
Protect? Protect who? This guy sounded like he had been in Vietnam. How and when did Vietnam ever threaten an American civilian strolling through Central Park? Like the vet said, they (the enemy) were only defending their own country.
@sumchick345
@sumchick345 8 жыл бұрын
I want to here more from Lonnie. He's so wise. I hope they bring him back for something, even if it isn't about war.
@megannwalsh
@megannwalsh 8 жыл бұрын
Night and day from the other guy. This man was deeply affected by his experience. Respect to him and what he had to do. Vietnam wasn't a choice and that makes it even more heartbreaking.
@Prime_Eejit
@Prime_Eejit 6 жыл бұрын
So.. Why exactly did the US need to fight in vietnam?
@googlepissoff5776
@googlepissoff5776 6 жыл бұрын
Emil Wiklund: Communists are scum. That’s kinda the only reason I can think of, that and defending south Vietnam against the north
@averythesuperhero
@averythesuperhero 5 жыл бұрын
USA deciding to fight Vietnam was a very stupid decision and we payed the price for it. It wasn't just the fact that we had no good reason to be there, it was how we decided to enlist boys who were only 19 to fight such a terrible war. It's not just that the war was brutal that causes PTSD in these men, it's how fragile their minds were as they experienced it. The Vietnam War was one of the stupidest mistakes we've made as a country, in my opinion, and I hope we can learn our lesson before we go to another one like that.
@plzfixwolves955
@plzfixwolves955 5 жыл бұрын
@@averythesuperhero Looking back on the Vietnam War and looking at Vietnam today makes my stomach turn at the fact young men died for no reason. Not to mention the South Vietnamese regime was eerily similar to 1950s South Korea.
@weeblswobbls
@weeblswobbls 8 жыл бұрын
my father is a Vietnam Vet. watching this is like listening to my dad's stories....the ones he hold inside until he drowns them in a bottle. You did what you had to in order to survive....Welcome home. I pray that the jungle inside your mind thins out with time ♡
@km-kl3lg
@km-kl3lg 6 жыл бұрын
weeblswobbls I think he described it perfectly you know. "He was just a young man like I was. Only he was in his country. Only trying to keep me, the son of a b*tch out of his country."
@ex-al5171
@ex-al5171 5 жыл бұрын
"Thise aren't people, they are silhouettes." Damn man
@gfkgfk7178
@gfkgfk7178 6 жыл бұрын
My WW2 vet grandfather told me that when he was at war. Honour, country and religion meant nothing. He remembered death, mutilated bodies and injuries so horrifying you couldn't imagine. The one common thing he told me he remembered were men crying for their Moms. Not a god, politician or vengeance on the enemy. Just there mothers. It always stuck with me. These are the stories we should hear before deciding what country to invade next, not a valour film. Saddens me and I wish these stories didn't exist. Respect to the men and women we send away to fight these dam wars.
@Carguy-sp8xj
@Carguy-sp8xj 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a guy that I hang out with at our campground that is a Vietnam war veteran and he killed someone as well. His name is Dwayne a guy in his late 60’s and I’m the only one that he tells his war stories to not even his wife. I forgot where he said he was stationed at but it was down south somewhere and he would scope the area for land mines and look for enemies. He was walking down a road doing his thing and a enemy makes his way in and I remember him saying “then I shot that son of a bitch right in the eye”. It really messed him up for many years and almost committed suicide but he got better after time and he really doesn’t mind talking about it well with me at least. Just from this video I can tell Lonnie still struggling and I just feel really bad for him. No one deserves to be haunted by what they did in war.
@yarah815
@yarah815 8 жыл бұрын
Lonnie is an incredible man. I really like this video
@galaxa13
@galaxa13 8 жыл бұрын
This whole video was powerful, but the part that really gets to me is when he talks about the people that shouldn't be allowed to keep living in our world. Specifically that someone has to have the power to say who doesn't deserve to live in our world anymore and how that's a complicated and scary thought.
@racecar58
@racecar58 8 жыл бұрын
Well there are people willing to commit to evil deeds so universally naturally there will be a form of energy resisting it's opposition. In this case " people who don't deserve their life " because they abuse their power and the people who have to straighten things out with the abusers. Not trying to bring you down but there will always and there will be a need for violence. Conflict solves problems wether verbal or physical
@dannyd3411
@dannyd3411 7 жыл бұрын
galaxa13 Sometimes the only way to save life is to take a life that the sad reality.
@hse6144
@hse6144 7 жыл бұрын
I feel murderers, rapists, and paedophiles shouldn't be allowed to keep living in our world.
@Talkinknicks
@Talkinknicks 7 жыл бұрын
H Se what an original thought, keep fighting for this idea i know many people must be fighting you on this one
@Hampternin
@Hampternin 6 жыл бұрын
Crow Blade stfu
@KrazyKirstennnn
@KrazyKirstennnn 7 жыл бұрын
You could really tell just how hard and painful it was for him to draw back upon these memories. Remembering things you wish you could forget.
@vanessamaldonado2872
@vanessamaldonado2872 6 жыл бұрын
"They're not real people, they're just targets." My heart sank when i heard those words. You can really feel his pain. How difficult it is to cope with killing another human being and how he was conditioned to think about it. Almost as if he was tricked into thinking it was not as a big deal as it actually was. Mad respect for veterans who have to go through this kind of pain.
@sherrequeen
@sherrequeen 8 жыл бұрын
I can't stop thinking about this video..
@dandymcgee
@dandymcgee 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody should ever stop thinking about this video.
@boujiatexas1870
@boujiatexas1870 4 жыл бұрын
"I didn't give a fuck who it was I was trying to keep me alive." That might be realist thing I've ever heard . Thank you sir for your service
@nikolakaravida9670
@nikolakaravida9670 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. He also says that kills weren't memorable while he was actually deployed, but once you get home, everything sets in.
@GloriaC333
@GloriaC333 8 жыл бұрын
Powerful. He doesn't glorify his status as veteran. He and men like him deserve repect.
@TANTHEMANFILMS
@TANTHEMANFILMS 4 жыл бұрын
my old HS sub-teacher was a Vietnam vet said -''you never come back from war whole even with all your limbs attached''..
@L.Anymal
@L.Anymal 7 жыл бұрын
Lonnie is telling his story and takes us on a journey through his life.. Josh is reviewing a video game..
@c2petion
@c2petion 7 жыл бұрын
Hermann Schönbächler Just because his views of war arent like Lonnies or other veteran's doesnt make him childish, he just had a different experience when it came to killing.
@growingstruggle5493
@growingstruggle5493 7 жыл бұрын
He's younger than Lonnie when he will understand what he have done... he will change his tone.
@jakemathis3496
@jakemathis3496 6 жыл бұрын
Nimo 5432 I disagree man, they both killed people, the wars were different. Vietnam is kinda known as a war that really fucks people up, not to say other wars weren't it's just Vietnam was especially disturbing. Furthermore Josh is much younger. I think some people handle things differently. My mom is a nurse and she witnesses people die on a regular basis and it doesn't bother her at all. Now that would really screw me up. People are just different.
@bluelax99able
@bluelax99able 6 жыл бұрын
Nimo 5432 doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the same amount of respect
@BigAssNigga311
@BigAssNigga311 6 жыл бұрын
+Mattia Siro The guy pulled the trigger, and is sitting there talking about it, im sure he knows what he did, dumb ass.
@Santi751
@Santi751 2 жыл бұрын
That sad and tired look at 2:54.... "Oh man this is hard".
@OXUK1998
@OXUK1998 6 жыл бұрын
"from dreams and aspirations to nothing" so deep, major respect for this man.
@grabber_blu_angel
@grabber_blu_angel 6 жыл бұрын
That part about death looking like "nothing" is so true. It's like, someone was there, then they just instantly become nothing.
@sam-jo1wl
@sam-jo1wl 6 жыл бұрын
1:20 the pause... its always the first kill you never, ever forget... these veterans at these pauses recall the exact moment they pulled that trigger and ended that person’s life
@adolfgaming1761
@adolfgaming1761 7 жыл бұрын
Goddamnit Lonnie if you see this my deepest respect
@SM-qo9gr
@SM-qo9gr 6 жыл бұрын
He has a room in his head where he stored every single detsil about that part of his life. Every smell, every sound, every light beam... This man is still in war but with his mind and heart and feelings. Its just a human shell.
@plyinglemon
@plyinglemon 6 жыл бұрын
When he's talking about how he thought of the dead man when he got home, how he was the invader and the other man was defending his home, that has to be a heavy weight to carry. I can't imagine carrying that guilt.
@tjsandor8235
@tjsandor8235 5 жыл бұрын
I had chills this whole video. Thank you for your service and sharing this with us Lonnie.
@swingandamiss5942
@swingandamiss5942 7 жыл бұрын
Fucking no matter how many times I've seen a veteran telling their story, they've always had that stare the one on 1:25 where they realize and remember how it felt what it felt and where it happened. Veteran's of our nation always have my respect
@Thecarsonlane
@Thecarsonlane 8 жыл бұрын
This is deep.
@sammysines471
@sammysines471 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing but love and respect for all veterans. My grandfather is a Vietnam vet who has suffered from PTSD for centuries, and can't talk about it, and I wish I could help him. I hope every veteran knows that he or she is loved.
@cFlan
@cFlan 6 жыл бұрын
This without question is one of the most powerful videos on the internet. I'm in tears. This brave poor man.
@YoubetheCook
@YoubetheCook 6 жыл бұрын
My grandfather's best friend fought in the Vietnam war and some of the stories he told us was horrific. He would cut off their heads to scare others. He killed many people there. Today he's suffering greatly those killings, to the point that his own family is suffering. He would make his kids reenact the war in their backyard. He's been hospitalized many times and he will lose it and lose himself in those memories. It's heartbreaking.
@rachelsouth1589
@rachelsouth1589 7 жыл бұрын
This is the most haunting and beautiful video I've seen
@doronikgjcs
@doronikgjcs 6 жыл бұрын
I feel for this guy. He is in a deep struggle.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 7 жыл бұрын
1:22 You can see him re-live that moment. Heartbreaking.
@arin7053
@arin7053 8 жыл бұрын
Still feel really bad or disgusted after watching the other guy's video but glad to see that there are veterans who actually have heart and emotions like the veteran in this video
@Dev-Austin
@Dev-Austin 8 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@ImworriedImgettingspyedon
@ImworriedImgettingspyedon 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with you
@PaleBlueVoice
@PaleBlueVoice 8 жыл бұрын
+Max kill Oh, so the other guy is a piece of shit because of his emotions (or lack thereof)? People can't control their emotions, you reprehensible piece of shit. They did the same thing. You should judge them the same way. How they feel years later is irrelevant.
@RAZIdrizzle
@RAZIdrizzle 8 жыл бұрын
+PaleBlueVoice i have to disagree. the manner this guy talked about his kills made it seem they were actually people. the other guy didnt. The guilt this guy feels means he regretted it. if he regretted it, wouldnt it mean his morals are stronger than the previous guy?
@jimjam7512
@jimjam7512 8 жыл бұрын
+lol You can become disassociated to the extent of no longer caring and wanting more, I cant imagine the power of holding someones life in your hands for some its intoxicating
@retr0964
@retr0964 6 жыл бұрын
"I didn't give a fuck who he was I was trying to keep me alive" Damn.
@trevorepps743
@trevorepps743 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this man is doing okay, thank you for your service. Can’t imagine what he has been through.
@scottibee2167
@scottibee2167 6 жыл бұрын
I legit teared up watching this. You can just see him go back to the place. Back to that exact moment in time, and just re live every moment.
@chriskoob
@chriskoob 7 жыл бұрын
2:16 - 2:30 , and that's why they call it the insanity of war
@frostfreerunning690
@frostfreerunning690 7 жыл бұрын
"its no that they don't deserve to have been born but they might not deserve to keep living " damn
@Fae-pu8uk
@Fae-pu8uk 5 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful and heartfelt analysis of war. It is far more thoughtful than many conversations about battle. Thank you Lonnie for your wisdom.
@cg3855
@cg3855 6 жыл бұрын
So real so raw deep admiration and respect. My hats off to this man.
@storm8856
@storm8856 4 жыл бұрын
3:23 He looks like he's remembering the friends he lost as he says that. I could never handle what this man has been through. Much respect.
@therealdio6562
@therealdio6562 5 жыл бұрын
When he was asked first question you can see that he is reliving a memory he doesn't want to relive.
@rawgp5519
@rawgp5519 7 жыл бұрын
much respect Lonnie. and thank you for your service. I can tell you were basically reliving thos memories you been through. must of been really difficult. 😕
@BonDieu617
@BonDieu617 7 жыл бұрын
I just wanna give him the biggest hug
@alexhennigh5242
@alexhennigh5242 6 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of George Carlin with Bill Hicks mannerisms. With that being said thank you for your service, you sir are a true American hero
@misterclean7570
@misterclean7570 6 жыл бұрын
This guy is amazing, would love to talk with him.
@smithnwesson990
@smithnwesson990 6 жыл бұрын
This is unbelievable. Truly hard watching this man reliving those horrific moments.
@dearbhladd
@dearbhladd 8 жыл бұрын
Heart goes out to him, he really understands what happened and what he did
@larrymcjones
@larrymcjones 6 жыл бұрын
I recommend the book "platoon leader" for anyone who wants to learn more about the day to day experiences of Vietnam
@jnasilowska
@jnasilowska 6 жыл бұрын
4.00 - 4.24 How many lives lost because of that simple truth...? I respect this guy a lot. To me, this is a real hero of war. Why? Because this man didn't let his experiences take away his humanity or his ability to think for himself. That's a real man.
@cesar_yf2637
@cesar_yf2637 7 жыл бұрын
Man I have soooo much respect for this MAN.
@TytonidaeBingo
@TytonidaeBingo 8 жыл бұрын
This was deeply moving and very profound. I hope he can heal.
@charlesb479
@charlesb479 6 жыл бұрын
They're not real people, they're targets.... fuck. For a second, he's there again. You could tell in his eyes. Every smell, feeling, sight, noise. It came rushing right at him.... again. God bless him. My uncle fought in Vietnam. He never told us anything, didn't want to. And after seeing that man's mind take him back there the way it did. I can see why.
@alyssacouri6602
@alyssacouri6602 7 жыл бұрын
One word, Respect.
@fergalquinn3982
@fergalquinn3982 7 жыл бұрын
This is so bone chilling, deepest respect for anyone who's fought in a war and seen these kinds of things
@baldrickization
@baldrickization 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for posting this.
@resultedchutoy3353
@resultedchutoy3353 7 жыл бұрын
Lonnie, I believe you have earned a place in a much better world...
@AwkwardSilenceNation
@AwkwardSilenceNation 8 жыл бұрын
This man is a clear example of what war does to people. He probably didn't get any help when returning home, and it is sad to see him struggle like this. It might sound very crude, but he clearly has mental problems and it's a shame he wasn't aided in dealing with what had happened.
@Memento--Mori
@Memento--Mori 6 жыл бұрын
Vietnam Vets in particular were spat on, harassed, etc by the liberal Americans. They most definitely were not taken care of by the people they fought for
@bmxmyth166
@bmxmyth166 5 жыл бұрын
Collin The horrible liberal Americans you’re talking about were the ones who were fighting for them to come home. What are you even talking about?
@sogekingfromsniperisland7033
@sogekingfromsniperisland7033 5 жыл бұрын
Collin liberals were against the war. Against sending Americans to war.
@isaacwright9605
@isaacwright9605 5 жыл бұрын
The way he says silhouettes.. is the one thing that really got to me the most.. just the way he says that word to himself as though it’s long served him as a way to cope with the killing of another human. “They’re not real people, they’re just targets”... wow man.. I’m sure he’s said that to himself before
@dandymcgee
@dandymcgee 4 жыл бұрын
He's saying it sarcastically. He knows it's a lie. He's not using it as a coping mechanism.
@ethanhoeft2455
@ethanhoeft2455 7 ай бұрын
I just want to give this man a hug.
@ezravalles2868
@ezravalles2868 5 жыл бұрын
1000 yard stare, thank you for your sacrifice
@harryrooney9424
@harryrooney9424 6 жыл бұрын
“Well, it’s not that they deserve to have been born, but maybe they don’t deserve to go on living.” Terrifying yet excellent quote Lonnie, Jesus Christ
@haleystewart5667
@haleystewart5667 7 жыл бұрын
much respect. my heart goes out to him.
@maxjara5739
@maxjara5739 7 жыл бұрын
This is so poetic, respect to this veteran and all others
@thomas-yn3ok
@thomas-yn3ok 6 жыл бұрын
"It's not that they don't deserve to have been born, but maybe they don't deserve to go on living"
@Mogun09
@Mogun09 8 жыл бұрын
this is much different from Joshes video
@jordandabbs9805
@jordandabbs9805 2 жыл бұрын
Got a family friend that my family has been talking care of for 30 years. Vietnam vet. And he has these little pauses that remind me of Lonnie and it hurts to see it man..
@KillerKolt44
@KillerKolt44 5 жыл бұрын
God bless you sir and the men you served with.
@mrpooptash
@mrpooptash 5 жыл бұрын
I've got respect for this man, he obviously has remorse for what he's done, but you've gotta understand the world he grew up in, he had to join the army or go to prison, he was forced into doing what he did to try stay alive. That's why calling soldiers murderers or killers is wrong, it's the politicians and generals who should be held accountable
@MrElectricRazor
@MrElectricRazor 8 жыл бұрын
Wow. That was absolutely haunting. The nothing part.
@GuatoLT1
@GuatoLT1 5 жыл бұрын
MrElectricRazor nope it’s real life!
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this.
@patv1271
@patv1271 6 жыл бұрын
What a great man. I like his candidness and logic.
@hellxbabie764
@hellxbabie764 8 жыл бұрын
Why the bleeping? Are they names? Locations? Is he swearing..?
@jssofyeebk9893
@jssofyeebk9893 6 жыл бұрын
Plenty Sorrow names
@4x4texas12
@4x4texas12 6 жыл бұрын
Names
@CesarZumarraga
@CesarZumarraga 4 жыл бұрын
naeams eas
@liamtubsy3767
@liamtubsy3767 7 жыл бұрын
Is any of the money being made from this series 'On Killing' being donated to a veteran organisation?
@rikkarocket9307
@rikkarocket9307 6 жыл бұрын
Just trying to imagine the situation in real life as I was closing my eyes and listening to him gave me anxiety and nearly brought me to tears. You can here struggle, pain & strength in his voice. All veterans deserve all the respect in the world for what they have to endure and go through. To get scarred, to get PTSD and whatnot. These videos gave me a whole new understanding. May these people in the army heal
@OpinionUnworthy
@OpinionUnworthy 7 жыл бұрын
Much respect for this man!
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