This is an act that even the founders couldn’t do.

I think the critical Drinker had it spot-on when he said it's as if the producers of the show watched a couple of episodes of next-generation with the volume muted and came to the own conclusions about about what happened. And then wrote Picard based on those conclusions!

Lore, I agree, if star fleet had all the facts an all out attack on that fleet would have been justified. However we have to remember what we know as viewers is not the same as what any given character knows on screen You are going off the assumption that at this point in time star fleet command had hard evidence that Oh was behind the attack on mars. Lets look at the last communication between Picard and Clancy. At that point in time Picard didn't even know about Oh being a Zhat Vash agent so it's reasonable to assume Clancy and star fleet command didn't know either. Outside Picard and his crew I doubt star fleet knew about her being a traitor/double agent until Riker hailed her ship. Starting the largest battle since Cardassia prime would need a little more evidence. What I'm guessing is going to happen is that star fleet will be presented with the hard evidence of Oh's actions and the Zhat Vash. They will slam that information in the face of the Romulan free state, demand justice or war and the Romulan free state will have the Zhat Vash declared as outlaws and enemies of the state. Remember these people also screwed a large portion of the Romulan civilians and are now bringing the Romulans to the brink of war with the most powerful entity in the quadrant.

In the voice of the Critical Drinker: "Nah, it´ll be fine..."

Certainly the Federation would want to apprehend Oh and bring her to justice, but not worth a major fleet engagement with the Romulans to accomplish it. With over 200 Romulan ships and an unknown number of Federation ships, but presumably enough to convince Oh to halt her fanatical pursuit of the synths, the loss of life would no doubt have been in the tens of thousands (at least several hundred per ship lost). That said, Oh will spend the rest of her life hiding, wondering when Star Fleet Intelligence will catch up to her and drag her back to the Federation. The Romulan Empire will also likely have an enormous toll to pay, once there role in all this is revealed. The Federation may use this to demand reparations or renegotiate the treaty of Algernon or cut off aid or convince trading partners to cut the Romulans off. "Turn over Oh and we'll lift the sanctions." On another note, and others are welcome to disagree, those were some of the ugliest Starships I've ever seen. They do demonstrate a huge shift in Star Fleet philosophy though, a fleet entirely of one class of modern ships, not a mix of ship types dating back decades. Where were the Akiras, Galaxies, Nebulas, Sovereigns, Defiants and Intrepids that should all still be in service?

'Star fleet has always had more advanced warp technology than any other race that has appeared in more than 2 episodes' - I think you have forgotten about the borg!

It wouldn’t be the first time a Romulan spy gotten past Picard & Riker.

Well, this is quite interesting. With intelligence, if you let her go, you can track where she goes and who she talks to. No doubt, she will be trying to cover her trail. Once you assess who are the key players in this intelligence operation as she was a mole in the Federation, then you follow the chain of command and you bring them to justice one by one by extracting them clandestinely. Once you have all of them, you bring them to justice and make the case to the rest of the Federation members. Quiet clandestine operations are far more effective than all other ways of bringing people to justice. I’m sure there are federation moles amongst the Romulans. Once the Romulan plot is exposed, the Federation would be on stronger footing and any aggressive actions by the Romulans could be met with absolute force. By the way, once all of them are rounded up they should be executed for their crimes. Before any of this starts, Federation security and other areas should be purged of any appointees or individuals with heavy contact with the commander. Those are my two cents. Enjoyed this video.

Where's Section 31 when you need them?

They let her go for a very specific reason: so they could have a compelling villain for season 2 or 3 :-)

So the writers made terrible decisions and made a story that makes no sense. So how would you rewrite this subarc of the season.

I think that, as part of the rewrite, the writers/producers/whoever in charge, wanted a ”star treky” ending in which no fighting occurs and a "diplomatic" solution is reached. They probably wanted to put some distance between this and STD S2 pointless boss fight in the final. To this end they sacrificed logic or plot coherence. While we're at it, what was the point of the Borg cube? What was the point of the elf ninja? What was the point of Maddox? What was the point of Soong jr? And lastly, are the Romulans a powerful and dangerous multi planetary star empire with an Armada, spies, black ops and an inteligence unit that has its own secret inteligence unit or a poor, noble, down on their luck refugees who lost everything when their only home exploded and now depend on the kindness of strangers?

At least they stop the Reapers from coming through the mass relay.

I just have to point out that all of your assumptions are based on one particular line of logic. That this show(much some other Drek drivel) is competently written. I mean yeah Brennen Braga of Voyager was bad writing most of the time with a few standout episodes here and there, but it was consistent. That is the problem with these new series. No consistency and an agenda behind every episode.

A demonstration of Sratfleet'a newest and beefiest heavy hitter would have been nice. But given the weakened state of the Romulan Star Empire, Starfleet probably figures they could handle it at their leisure.

The question you have is this. "Is getting a traitor worth a war and all of the deaths such a war would result in?" Example irl. When spies during the Cold War defected between the West and the USSR did either side launch nukes? It's all about cost benefit analysis.

I blame Admiral Clancy more than anything. I know Lore Reloaded HATES using content outside of the shows as evidence, but in the books that detailed Picard life during the Romulan evacuation, Clancy was very much concerned overly much with politics and diplomacy and was definitely someone who was willing to make compromises and sacrifices that she felt would ultimately be good for the Federation and its unity. We saw this ridiculousness in her character in the season itself. So I think Riker was acting under orders from Clancy herself. It's also possible that Riker was uninformed who she was, and that made it easier for Clancy. Tl:dr: I blame Clancy and her idiotic beliefs on how diplomacy works.

Some great points that I had not even considered.

Riker let her go because Admiral “F-bomb” Clancy called dibs on Oh’s head. One day Oh will walk into a room where a voice will come from a dark corner, “You FUCKING! Romulan bitch” then oh gets shot in the face with a phaser.

Riker was having flashbacks to when he lost enterprise D to an antique bird of prey

It could be argued that with O being as deep and entrenched for so long they are covering it up. Riker might know who O is but the rest of the fleet might not. The same could be said of member worlds as well. I could see Higher ranking positions on Andoria and Vulcan being aware but the rest of the jittery member worlds being obfuscated with a cover-up. I do have a feeling that section 31 will make O disappear. The act of bringing her in would just open the flood gates of doubt for the rest of the federation. Not to mention making Starfleet look weak to other neighboring powers.

As always another great video congratulations

it's almost like this show was written poorly

Who said section 31 doesn t have a plan? Remember there s season 2

Star Trek does this all the time. See the episode of Enterprise when Archer will not shoot Nausicaan pirates

My biggest problem with your argument about her Intel knowledge is that we see her go in to Romulan space on multiple occasions. Presumably she had handlers and was regularly debriefed. I'd think the biggest concern Riker had when he let her go was "are the freaky giant mecha squids coming back?"

Perhaps this is just 1 event which will lead to the UFP's downfall. (ST:D S3) Loose Lips Sink Ships!

sorry you got your politics and Starfleet video pulled by CBS I was really enjoying I went back to finish it off and was already copyright infringed it was really enjoyable I'm just sorry they had to take it off the KZfaq keep on making good content man I'm enjoying your show

Its probably just bad writing like a lot of things in Picard, ideas not fully fleshed out or thought through. But to be fair depending on how militaristic Star Fleet has become they have endured a lot of actions that would be cause for war and let it pass. In the episode with the Romulan ambassador they let her go on board the Romulan warbird probably because they didnt want to start a war. So you could make the argument that they didnt want to start an all out war with the Romulans; especially when thinking hyperbole that Section 31 could have the same results without the same negative consequences. In honesty it's just bad writing.

Brent Spiner is never playing Data ever again however he will be in the second season of Picard as Alton Soong

All your points are valid enough. That said, consider the state the Federation is in at this point. We are looking at a post dominion federation that lost millions if not billions of lives just a generation prior. Even by this point, manpower would not be back to the point before Wolf 359. The whole era is a dark and deadly period between those two points for the federation. Beyond that, amongst the rebuilding effort post dominion war we see the prime shipyards of the federation annihilated. How many ships could UP put out in a year? How many were being built there that were in various states of development that were destroyed? The best figure I have been able to find is from Shelby saying that the fleet could recoup the lost ships at Wolf 359 in a year. That represents about 40 ships. That is definitely NOT the output of UP by itself. So that "most advanced fleet" at Rikers back may well have represented quite a large contingent of the post dominion war fleet produced. (Side note, maybe this is the most advanced fleet because he knows it is at least partially, if not predominantly manned by holograms, cause it would have to be.) Point is, Riker brought in a ridiculous number of ships, but he brought an appropriate number to match the force he would be facing. The Romulans, also suffering a lot of losses as well as damage from the hobus event would have a fleet of smaller, easier to produce ships, which would likely be similar to what the federation is fielding at this time. Rikers call to let Oh go is in fact a fairly logical one. Yes Oh represents a huge threat to starfleet security but from the moment they knew she was a double agent, everything she had her hands in could be scrapped and rebuilt. It would require weeding out her left over agents in SF but honestly that would not be all that difficult to pull out the biggest majority quickly. New security measures could negate deeper seeded agents from being very useful. Policies can be replaced, People and resources cant. Least not as easily. Especially when the Federation still has not fully recouped their losses from the dominion war and Borg engagements. So a 200 ship flotilla potentially engaging in an evenly matched conflict is a poor expenditure of people and resources to capture one rogue agent. The romulans were not going to hand her over without a fight, so there is no justifiable reason to commit that much death and destruction in the POSSIBILITY of capturing a single traitor. Sorry, but a single traitor does not justify that cost. There is little likelihood of getting much useful info out of Oh about how far the corruption under her ran. This is not only a romulan secret agent, but an agent of the secret society of their secret police agency. This is not someone who is going to just give up secrets. Pursuing her to this end would be futile. Now Riker should have tried to reason with other commanders in the Romulan fleet to get them to turn her over willingly which they may have been compelled to do so given her failure, but given only what was presented, Rikers choice was the most logical one. Especially because there will be other opportunities to capture Oh later on because you know she will be back in future seasons on some level. Yes there could be a S31 plot to take her out, but honestly its still rather pointless. Sure have a public face demanding to bring her into justice but honestly now that her cover is blown starfleet can quickly do internal audits of personnel, limit access to potential seeded agents, root them out quickly. Rebuild security procedures, shift asset deployments, change security codes, and completely overhaul the division. While it would create a massive workload to fix the problem, having Oh back does nothing to negate having to do that work. Having her back only serves as a symbolic victory and that is not what you put 200 ships in a weakened and thinned out fleet at risk for. Even if its not the starfleet way.

It would be even funnier if Commodore OH was installed by the other agent from "Data's Day" and was still allowed to be active and even promoted in Starfleet after wards.

My biggest question from season 1 of Picard. Where the heck was Section 31? There whole purpose is to make sure the Federation doesn’t face something like a Romulan infiltration into the Federation, especially at such high levels. Section 31 would have stopped this before the Romulan got anywhere near this deep into the Federation Hierarchy. (Sloan was only one man, he wasn’t all of Section 31. He was a small piece) Where was Section 31?

Could Riker have beaten the Romulan Fleet and captured Oh, most likely. Could he have done it without a couple Warbirds moving in and blowing the Synth Colony to hell. No he couldn't, if each side had only brought a handful of ships it might have been possible or if the Synths had actually elected to evacuate. But as it stood there was no way to realistically capture Oh and save the Synths. Now I don't think Oh is in the clear yet. As I imagine there would be millions of Romulans who'd be pissed off to learn billions of their fellows were left to die on there home world because some Tal'Shiar cult decided killing Synths was more important.

Plus ten points for the Base Delta Zero reference.

Given the close proximity of all of the ships in both fleets. A battle would have basicly been a single well placed quantum torpedo which would start a cascade of warp core breaches (since Romulans are apparently using warp core technology now instead of quantum singularities given Rikers statement). Which could have distroyed the entire Romulan fleet, it is patently idiotic to have that many ship packed so closely together, not only would they cause a massive chain reaction of distuction if one were to explode, the couldn't fight or even manuver effectively since they would end up in each others line of fire. And before Kurtzmans white knight charges in to say that Trek has always had battle formations this tight in the past. Yes they did, all the way back to D.S.9... and it was just as stupid then as it is now. However "They've always done this sort of thing" is not really an adequate defence for doing it now. Thing are supposed to improve with time and lessons learned, and it's fair to hold a Pulitzer prize, and Hugo award winning author to a higher standard. That being said why would a battle even be nessissary. They have the "Magic Space Occorina" why not just wis the beacon to vanish, and imagine all the Romulan weapon systems to fail, and Imagine Oh stepping into a transporter and beaming into the brig on Rikers ship. It seems the legacy of nu-trek is resting in the hands of a group of simpletons intent on turning Star Trek into an embarrassment.

So I haven't seen the new show so forgive me if there are reasons this is explicitly not the case. What if Starfleets reluctance to fight this time is precisely because of the Dominion War? IRL after WW1 a lot of nations really went off of the idea of open war and bent over backwards to try and avoid another one, what if after the war against the Dominion after all that death and loss Starfleet, an entity that didn't like fighting anyway, was just that desperate to try and avoid another conflict? Similar to how a lot of RL nations were willing to repeatedly concede and try to negotiate before WW2. Again haven't actually seen any of the new series so forgive me if the show makes it obvious that's not the case, but equally sometimes an outside view can be useful.

The Zhat Vash is to the Tal Shiar as Section 31 is to Starfleet Intelligence.

I always Wonder why almost always a Planet has no spaceship in a defensive role.

You mentioned some good points on Oh and how she should at least stand trial for her crimes but I would not expect her to surrender. Starfleet wouldn't want another war so I think they would try to do things more peacefully and without force. I think the Starfleet ships were stronger because why else would the Romulans back down? As for Oh this could set her up as a recurring character and maybe she will "drop in" once in a while. Starfleet has always had problems with infiltration in the organization even at high levels (TNG: Conspiracy comes to mind).

At first thought, I feel the same way as most everyone in that Riker should have attacked and brought Oh to justice. However, I do also like thinking back into previous episodes in not only Picard but from the other shows (well, I don't care a whole lot for Discovery but that's an entirely different discussion) granted it was just under 25 years in the series timeline but perhaps section 31 was aware of Oh since we do know there was a time that the head of the Tal Shiar was a section 31 agent. Maybe they do have a plan to take care of her. Of course we do have to wait until season 2 to find out. Of course it does depend on how long Oh was actually in Starfleet but I would assume it must have been some length of time since she is a Commodore.

counter point, they could not ensure the safety of the planet if they engaged, only that they would gut the Romulan Fleet. If Star fleet's top mission priority was the safety of civilians on planet. then getting them to back off may have been an acceptable outcome. After all we also know that the Tal-Shiar don't tolerate failure well, and the Federation knows that.

Riker was there to support Picard, and that's what he did - he followed Picard's lead (if a battle broke out, everything was lost) Finally got a Captain Riker! But I wish we got a shot of his ship instead of a sea of virtually identical ships. and.... to be clear..... did Seven and Picard just leave a Borg cube in walking distance from a colony of androids? I REALLY hope Soong is actually Lore

You're trying to apply logic and reason to something that has neither. None of this makes sense because the "writers" haven't got a clue what they are doing.

My opinion on this is, it would make sense for member worlds of the Federation to have, at the very least, apprehension about helping the Romulans when their star went supernova. Assuming that each member world has representation on the Federation council, perhaps those worlds which were the most vocal had some intelligence suggesting that, while the supernova was devastating to the Romulans, they were far from being hopeless or helpless. But, given the Federation's mantra to pursue peace and goodwill, the Federation ended up taking a calculated risk, not knowing that Commodore Oh was a Romulan agent embedded in Starfleet. And she ended up orchestrating the destruction of Mars, Utopia Planetia, the lives and property that were lost, as well as Dahj and her boyfriend, and nearly Picard as well. Initially, Starfleet did the right thing in bringing an end to the Romulan relocation, and even bringing an end to synthetics. Remember, genetic manipulation was banned in the Federation because they didn't want another Khan to be created, so the action wasn't unprecedented. But Picard came up through Starfleet at the height of its pacifist arrogance, and his own hubris and not thinking he could be wrong (because he's almost always never wrong throughout TNG) and he could only see the surface of the issue. Maybe he had been presented with the facts, but refused to believe it. I think it's more telling that, simply on Picard's assertion, that Riker (and others) would simply believe him rather than investigating the matter for themselves, maybe a bit of "cult of personality." Anyway, by the time Riker shows up with the fleet to meet a heavily armed Romulan fleet, it should have been clear to Riker that Picard wasn't exactly right. Even if his intentions were good (and perhaps we could agree that they were), his conclusion was bad. And you would think that Riker would swear an oath to serve Starfleet, not Picard, so Riker should have, at the very least, taken Oh under arrest, and maybe let the Romulan fleet (under escort) go.

It was annoying we didn't get a big battle. Mainly between the Romulans and the Synthetic gods. As we never got to see their true power... so it could be dubious prophecy

Maybe Riker was bluffing and those ships weren't all that good afterall and he would loose a stand-up fight with the Romulan's.

I think the debate should be is it or is it not worth talking about ST:Picard.

I'm assuming they planned on capturing Oh later

maybe they left her alone so they have something to chace after next season?

The thing is, we don't know how public Oh's treachery was made. Like, having an all out battle with nameless Romulans who are threatening a planet? That's easy to publicly explain without embarrassment. But when the Romulans stood down, having that same battle over capturing one person...then you need to explain what that person did. I'm assuming Oh's true loyalties are a need-to-know matter, and most of Starfleet and the Federation don't need to know. Which makes a much better case for Section 31 to take care of her later.

I’m really, really hoping the fact that Troi wasn’t visible in the final episode will turn out to be because she sneaked onto a Romulan ship during the showdown, disguised as a Romulan. We know she has a lot of experience with the Romulans from TNG and her attempts to hunt down Oh (hopefully alongside Picard) could be a great storyline for series 2.

Totally unrelated, but what was the logic behind giving the Romulans 100s of fancy new design ships? I was super excited to see newly animated D'deridex ships and was blindsided by the Romulans having their own super fleet ready to go.

There is a lot that you say that makes a lot of sense... and a lot that one could argue that would have precedent in previous episodes of Star Trek... that the Federation would either not tolerate or accept treason. And in a sense, what O did could very well amount to that. However, I'd think a lot of this would also play into something that also happened in TNG in which the Enterprise chased into the neutral zone to "rescue" to find out the person they were rescuing was a Romulan agent to begin with. Would O deserve punishment for her involvement in what lead to the destruction of the Federation's main shipyards, outside of those that were immediately around Earth itself, like the San Francisco Yards and Spacedock, where the original Enterprise, the Enterprise A, and the Enterprise E ware built? Yes, yes she would. However, by the time that Picard relays whatever information of O's involvement and that it was separate from the "synths" and the Romulans that Picard had resettled in Federation space, it was too late. O was already aboard a Warbird and could claim safety with the Romulans... And this presents something far bigger than what reason had occurred in the Federation's history. For in "Undiscovered Country" those that had conspired with Chang to kill the Klingon Chancellor and the Federation President were all arrested on sight and couldn't get away. In the TNG and DS9 episodes dealing with the Maquis... the justification in dealing with the Maquis was that the Maquis were a small poorly armed group of rebels who wouldn't be able to stand up to anyone, and would disrupt things further... and with no major legal protection... they could be dealt with. But the Romulans are a different matter. For while everyone suffered in the Dominion War... only two Alpha Quadrant powers emerged in a position where they could claim a position of power in the region... the Federation and the Romulans... The Klingons might be locally strong in their space, but were also weakened by the war in ways in which the Federation and Romulans were not. And between the diplomacy that is shown in DS9 and put into elements of "Nemesis," one could also make the case that relations between the Federation and Romulan Star Empire were moving toward a more cordial relationship than the outright hostility that Kirk's era had as well as the suspicion that TNG had... But because the Romulans were in some position of relative strength after the Dominion War... and apparently in "Picard" had some measure of their Empire survive the destruction of their home system and Empire in a way that they weren't all Federation refugees... there would be some measure of the fact that dealing with O is NOT going to be like dealing with members of the Maquis. Riker or Picard could have demanded all they wanted that O be handed over, but if she was already on a Romulan Warbird of that era... it would be closer to what happened after the destruction of the Odyssey. In theory one could argue that the Odyssey's mission wasn't openly hostile and that destroying it was an act of war. And if the US sent a fleet carrier to the shores of India to ferry supplies to help a Pakistani embassy deal with some interstate squabble and was destroyed by the Indian navy... that would be taken as an act of war by the US. Starfleet wouldn't necessarily see it that way. They'd write that while saving Sisko was important... they'd also report that sending one of their most powerful capital ships to head the rescue mission was a poor choice and write it off as something they couldn't deal with... and thus, leave it at that. The limited mission of rescuing Sisko was achieved. Thus, it's not that Riker might not want to capture O... that Starfleet wouldn't want O... but that in the supposed setting that they were in with O with the Romulans and after they'd already taken some very hard blows as a result of the espionage... they simply COULDN'T risk all out war with the Romulans on the issue and risk those other areas of the Federation... In this, if "Picard" doesn't get cancelled by the Corona Virus, its second season would build off that and begin to try and clean up after what O had done and provide the means of what to do.

I've not seen any of Picard (and I won't until it comes to a TV channel that I don't have to pay extra for in the UK) but the only reason I can think of for Riker letting Oh go would be if he was worried that she'd had her agents rig some or all of his ships - for all he knew if he'd given the order to open fire on the Romulans, Oh could've pressed a button and wiped out his fleet. I'm probably in completely the wrong ballpark, but it's just an idea.

You're assuming Starfleet hadn't already assuresed it's own covert agents cannot abduct her on her return to Romulus. It could be that agents were surreptitiously being beamed about Romulan ships for her extraction later after the determination of how deep the comsporacy went. Section 31 and the Tal Shiar must have back channels of communication, and neither would tolerate a rogue agency like the Zhat Vash operating with it's own agenda. The point is, we were watching Star Trek: Picard, NOT a show about the machinations of some Federation/Romulan shadow war, no matter how heinous. At that point, STP's focus was where it started and where it belonged: on the intimate focus of the title character. Remember the image of the first person you see in TNG in you doubt it.

An interesting line of thinking, Lore. Though, I do wonder if there might be another component to this. It's a short season, but the intent of the writers may have been two fold: give the fans something they want to see (Riker telling Tal Shiar to kindly **** themselves) and allow for a future episode to show or imply covert operations following Commodore Oh and picking her organization apart from the trail.

I am hoping that this is addressed in season 2 of Picard.

What if the discovery season 3 & picard season 1 is interconnected with Starfleet cover-up had doomed the milky way galaxy with control is the scout since look at Starfleet organization Covered up Archer's Borg incident report leading up to wolf 359 incident It's section 31 that sent the Hanson family?

So the UFP got back to being weak after the Dominion War then... Section-31 was in control of the Tal Shiar what the living heck happened to them as they would never have allowed this?

Very nice

You forgot one crucial thing that's the new trek so put your brain on the back seat and ignore everything that's not logical

I always find it strange that Romulans would have high level agents willing to keep the battle going. I mean.......the federation are pretty tame. In reality they have no outright hostility or desire to take out the Romulans in any form. They just protect themselves. Any high level Romulan operative in the Federation would mostly be reporting: "Ya not much going on here. They keep track of us and monitor their defenses but literally have no desire to harm us in any way. I don't see the point of attacking them. Resources would be better spent worrying about our other borders, at least for now. Over."

I think they are saving them for the second season. The Tal Shair was only truly hurt by the Dominion and they were hurt not destroyed. Star Fleet is not there by any means as to what it would take. Sisco was

That woman murdered tens of thousands at Mars! She even got her own species wiped out!

I mostly disagreed with you up until 6:30. That was a really good point.

blame Admiral Kurtzman. Captain Riker takes his orders from him

My thought is lets see what season 2 brings.

Capturing Oh wasn't the purpose or objective of the fleet. It was to keep the Romulans from 1- Killing the Synthetics. 2- Prevent or somehow mitigate the extinction of all organic life in the Milky Way. Capturing Oh is a job for Section 31, not necessarily Starfleet. At least not in the context of the situation. Simply put, bringing Oh to justice isn't why the fleet was deployed. It would be, at best, a tertiary objective, one that would likely be better undertaken in a more precise manner as opposed to an epic space battle. Additionally, Oh's betrayal/double agent status may not be widely known, and making a big showing of it may draw attention to the fact that Starfleet/Section 31 dropped the ball which could be seen as a sign of weakness.

The can only posit two theories (well, three really). 1. They want her to go in an attempt to track her. Ether she was a double agent or they actually knew what she was up to long ago (but probably after the attack on Mars) and had been keeping an eye on her. In other words she's more valuable in the field than in a cell. 2. Its clear that in Discovery the Federation has been obliterated, at least that's what they've been hinting too. Maybe Picard is supposed to be the beginning of that. 3. That fleet Riker had was crap, and he was bluffing the entire time. Oh, yes Bonus 4...bad writing.

I don't really see a way for them to get away with getting Oh. It was either fight or not. Perhaps he could've asked... someone? to turn her over, but the problem is that Oh was in charge of the fleet. She's not going to just turn herself over, is she? She would happily order the fleet to attack if it was her life or theirs. I don't see her turning herself (and let's assume she had some info, though I think she would've made regular reports, on anything that couldn't be changed, codes would've been changed immediately) over. The fleets were roughly equal in power. So how? HOW? How do you get her in custody? I don't get it.

I don't think having a 500 ship battle over a single individual is worth it-- especially when there was a 50/50 chance that your galaxy was about to be invaded by a force that was able to utterly wipe out an ancient but far more powerful galactic civilization. It's not like Oh has any safe place to run to either-- letting her go now and sending a Section 31 team or the Ragni Rangers after her to take her out in a less costly way seems the smarter choice.

Isn't it Federation policy to avoid war at all costs? Even with dealing with a traitor?

Star fleet never failed. At a sense yes, but at the same time, no. It's because Section 31 is supposed to get all this information they know who the enemy is within Star Fleet. Seems like Section 31 needs to be abandoned. Yes they are not a official organization or are not looked at one.

There is another explanation, she is a triple agent

what if there is a second fleet lieing in wait behind romulan fleet to trap them

was satie right?

What happened to the Tel Shiar being the puppet of Section 31?

Seems to me this could set up a plot for the section 31 series.

Got my own Theory. What if there is someone else higher in Starfleet Pulling the Strings. I know allot of people hate the Idea of trying to directly connect Discovery to Picard, however how I would do it would be to is that after S2 of Discovery, Starfleet and Section 31 created a Secret Anti-AI Group themselves and at some point during the 23rd or 24th century made an alliance with the Romulan Zhat Vash because they shared the same Goal of Suppressing and Destroying Artificial Life. It does explain how Oh easily infiltrate Starfleet and why the Zhat Vash run operations on Earth. So maybe why they let Oh go is part of that Conspiracy. Was Riker part of this Fed Anti-AI Group, I hope not (Then again Riker was Complicit in a Treaty Violation himself) tho think it's more likely that he got Direct Orders from Starfleet Command not to do anything unless completely necessary under the guise of not trying to escalate a War. When you think about it, the Zhat Vash getting inside help makes allot of sense, tho they're are a few plot holes like why they wait till now in regards to Data and other AI experiments throughout Canon

This not the first time tng the Vulcan ambassador was a talishar agent so this is not the first and Picard had the Enterprise

The least you want to do is target their flagship and blow the living hell out of it

why do i hate picard?.

Riker's orders where to safeguard the Synth coloney. starting a firefight with the romulans would have put that at risk. it's possible the federation has other assists in place to deal with Oh. It's also possiable she's being set up as the series bad guy and season 2 will be ABOUT chasing her down. it's also possiable (albiet unlikely in the extreme) she'll end up being extridited by the romulan government in an attempt to avoid a war. I mean, Riker demanding she beam over was possiable sure, but the same thing can be done by the federation on a whole immediatly after.

While she might be a member of the Tal'shiar, I do think Zhat Vash is a separate organization with different goals; given the fact that Section 31 was able to rather easily take over the Tal'Shiar in DS9 with a Starfleet-backed stooge, that particular organization doesn't seem like one with a whole lot of excellent leadership; by comparison regardless of the purpose of their organization the zhat vash operated on a level where they were considered rumor/boogeymen by members of the Tal'Shiar.

She's also responsible for the Mars Attack and she's not being held accountable?

I heard Patrick Stewart didn't his own stunts in that episode

Where the hell was that MASSIVE fleet of Sovereign Battleships when the Dominion was romping around the Alpha Quadrant.

Star Fleet failure might have killed millions of their own people.

Overall I enjoyed season 1 of Picard, but I thought the finale was kind of stupid. Someone needs to slap Soji. She nearly murdered trillions and yet she is all happy and feeling good about her self at the end with no one calling her out. Then there is the fact that Star Fleet didn't blow up the beacon. Seriously they had a massive fleet of ships, any of which could have taken it out. But instead they decided to leave it up to random cyborg girl who is trying to purge the universe on if she wants to purge the universe or not.

Frankly Riker should have blasted the crap out of all of those warbirds. Seriously they just let her go? They should've crippled the Romulans. The Romulans are still crippled seriously crush them without a second's thought.

A romulan version of Michael Eddington.

Don't give her too much credit for her abilities and actions. She obviously had no idea about the federation fleet confronting her at the sinth planet.

It's funny the Romulans would risk war with Federation with the Klingons just itching for a fight after years of peace.

Star Trek Picard unarguably turned Star Fleet & The United Federation of Planets into the bad guys.

Its ridiculous how they let commodore o Escape. To me Riker should have been ordered to destroy them at all cost.

"Another successful liberation utilizing the Base Delta Zero initiative."

Dude countries do this shit to this day. We have high-level spies defect to other countries all the time, relatively speaking, and we don't start a war over it. If a fleet of federation ships attacked a fleet of Romulan ships it would start a war. By the time Riker arrives Starfleet would've removed any of her access to systems, and anyone she was involved with on a daily basis would be under close scrutiny, and most likely also have their access removed. All of the data she has would've already been sent to the Talk Shiar, because that's how intelligence networks work. The agent doesn't pick and choose what they send. They send it all, and the leadership determines what to act on. Think of WW2 and the code breakers.

Angnes, Soji and Oh should have all been arrested.

Yup, Starfleet cannot afford to assume she had expended her load