13:20 device disconnected and reconnected

See, I'm not so much bothered by Data tanking those rounds as much as I am amazed that the structure he jumped down to survived being hit by a 100kg robot dropping from what looked like about 50 feet without so much as denting.

USB disconnect noise during playback made me think my mouse died, lol!

ships officer: long range sensors are down capt: well get a telescope and look out a window this ship have plenty of them

When I was working in the oil field we had a huge safety meeting after, on a different rig a guy was cleaning a tank, he passed out due to gas. A guy on the outside went in after him, passed out, 2 more guys went in, all 4 were passed out and 2 more guys went in. Of the 6 people that went in only one survived. That's kinda what happened to the chick at the end.

First Contact we saw Deanna Troi's personality change to be a bit more like the actress... who is a bit of a cut-up in real life. It impacted her performance of the character in other appearances going forward like in Voyager and Enterprise.

So, I'm gonna firearms nerd out here a wee bit. That SMG Lily was using (Calico M955A) fires the 9x19 parabellum round. NIJ Level 2 body armor can easily stop this round and is basically just a kevlar shirt. It'll hurt when you get hit (Especially multiple times) but Data is an android so I doubt that'll matter too much. The only possible issue is that we've never really seen protective gear in Star Trek except for the Star Fleet guards from the TOS films. Though perhaps like you said, the replicated clothing had it built in.

The Captain's place is on the bridge, except when the First Officer's place is in the directing chair.

Beta canon thing about Picard not telling the computer where he wants the clothes, according to the Galaxy Class Technical Manual, the computer is almost constantly recording, interpeteting, contextualizing in order to know how to understand commands, I contend that the Sovereign class's computer worked in the same way, it heard Picard ask to be met in Transporter Room 3, contextualized that with the request for clothes, and replicated the clothes in Transporter room 3.

I think the temperature is a continuation of the “sickness” motif. The enterprise is “infected” with Borg and the initial “symptoms” are a temperature. It then spikes with the assimilation of the first two crewmen which grabs Picard’s attention. Thinking about it given the tradition of the Captain idolizing his ship, I’d say that whole scene is showing Picard choosing the Enterprise over the Phoenix and taking Data along with him.

19:57 you forget: In space, no one can hear you scream!

Or... One of the crew becomes Cochran, we've seen it with Sisko in Past Tense.

In DS9 the episodes homefront and paradise lost the admiral says that they have been stockpiling phasers and personal force fields for mouths so data could have been using one to protect himself from the gunfire

They likely have a replicator console near or in the transporter room.

Another two bits of foreshadowing which can be seen in these scenes is the small triangle logo that looks a little bit like a bio-hazard one on the green tanks with the liquid that eats flesh and gets broken by Data at the end. The second bit of foreshadowing is during the conversation between Picard and Data, the moment Picard explains to him the importance of touch for humans, to be more precise. Later, we can see the Borg queen grafting a piece of real human skin instead of his artifical one, so he can feel things, as in finally have the ability to touch and feel things like Picard earlier.(which he couldn't understand the importance of precisely because of his inability beforehand)

The heat may not have been from altering the environmental control systems, but from the Borg setting up their systems, which produce a lot of heat in running. In one of the early scripts, Picard was going to take the place of Cochrane, like Sisko with Gabriel Bell.

RE: the environmental systems screwing up - it probably wasn't the Borg's intention to mess with the thermostat, but simply a side effect of them breaking into the _Enterprise's_ systems. It may not have occurred to them that the crew would notice something like that, since the Borg don't exactly care much about crew accommodations on their own ships. They might figure that temperatures between "brisk fall day" and "warm beach" to be well within acceptable tolerances for humans with no environmental gear beyond a uniform, so going from air-conditioned office temps to a balmy summer evening should be too trivial a change to mention. I mean, the Borg are basically the species equivalent of a sociopath. If they don't care about something, it wouldn't occur to them that anyone else might either, unless it's specifically pointed out.

I'm really enjoying this series, keep it up!

As someone who 'loves' cars, I can appreciate a joke made to make fun of 'loving' an inanimate machine.

Someone else may have mentioned this, but I think the increase in temperature in and around Engineering is a consequence of the Borg setting up, not part of an actual plan. Remember, in the Enterprise episode 'Regeneration' the partly-assimilated aliens inject nanoprobes into a section of the Enterprise computer and we see it grows a Borg console. Presumably they're doing something similar here, and as the systems near Engineering become more Borg, they automatically start pushing the surrounding environment towards what is normal for inside a Borg ship. The Borg either can't stop that happening or they don't see it as a problem because it's normal procedure.

Fun Fact: the woman in this scene (19:09) is the same one from the Star Trek: Brorg game the interactive movie game staring John de Lancie her character is Ensign Anastasia Targus

Do you think the mirror universe would have been prime if this never happened? Did meeting the enterprise crew and finding out about the future keep Cochran from killing the Vulcans? Just a theory in my head for a while now.

I wonder how this movie would have ended if Picard was gunned down by Lilly. Also, I suppose if the Phoenix flight failed they could have made "first contact" with earth using the enterprise. It would undoubtedly change the way things played out in history but that doesn't mean it would have made them worse. After all the existence of alien life was the reason given for earth uniting.

I was simply under the impression that the temperature/environmental conditions the Borg set the ship to allows their technology to operate at optimal efficiency

I always assumed the temperature was an unintentional byproduct of the enterprise being reconfigured with borg technology (which we know spreads through the ship on its own), not an intentional act by the borg like adjusting the thermostat

Picard was a run head forward captain and often broke the rules

Lily went on to form a SUPERSECRET Agency to watch for the Borg, and figure out ways to not prevent Wolf 359. One of her descendants would lead this agency shortly after that point.

active Seonsors: send all kind of signals (its Star Trek, so I think something Subspace-shenanigans ;P) out there to determin the damage done, or (as pointd out) active aim at the sphere, etc. passive: just collect incoming radiation, like visble light from stars, let the computer do the math and *bling* find out when you are; as it works like stellar navigation on earth, just in the fourth dimension, its not so hard why the 24th century dont have telescopes with the resolution to find out the damage on the surface is another question ;)

On body armor - Picard did say "mid-21st Century clothing." It's entirely possible that the clothing came with period looking body armor and they don't recognize it as such while putting it on. That's right, in the mid-21st Century, it's so dangerous that body armor is considered part of normal clothing. ;)

Absolutely insane detail in this series love it. PS don’t know if intentional but this one isn’t time stamped

You mean DRUNK "Deaaaaaaanaaa" 😆 lol

In deference of the scene with the second victim, in real life people tend to not think logically if they think something might be wrong or someone is in danger and actively put themselves in danger. Sadly every year many people on work sites die inside storage tanks and other confined spaces going in after someone else instead of calling for help and planning a proper rescue.

About the topmissue what if data saw the starts and double checked with the computer hence tapping the console to pull up the data

As someone who hates the heat, I would have an urgency to fix the HVAC as well.

9:12 she probably passes out thinking Data is the f’ing Terminator!

@18:30 Actually no, he's not talking to the woman at the console outside, he's talking to the woman in the Jeffries tube. It just so happens that he's talking to the one Borg who is capable of independent, abstract thought: the queen. That's also why the woman at the console didn't call security when he screamed; he's too far into the tubes to still talk with her.

Old vid… I know.. but if you look closer. The weapon doesn’t have a magazine in it. Yet still fires 🤣😭🤣

I just figured the engineer was hot and therefore frustrated over the temperature

re: clothing... I always just assumed that he kept giving the computer orders after the turbolift doors closed. Why is there controversy about it?

13:21 gotta love that Surface Book sound that means "aw shit my hinge connection is buggy"

19:13 She was one of the main characters in the live action video game 'Star Trek Borg' I also knew a girl who had a crush on her as well.

Considering "present day Earth" is Borg Central and they're back before the Phoenix maiden voyage anyway, I assume a bit of "Un-Borg Earth and we'll handle the details later" is in order.

If Chakotay can experience a transporter malfunction that leaves him with nothing but his com badge (VOY: in the flesh) then it stands to reason that the transporter can add or remove clothing at a moments notice.

We can run simulations on modern computers that can calculate both past and future positions of stars with what should be pretty high accuracy for several centuries even if we are missing some major aspect of stellar physics. Presuming that even internal cameras with views out of viewports were still working, a TNG era computer should have had no problem whatsoever estimating within a few years when they were, particularly in sol orbit, where we have been studying the stars from for all of human history.

I read an early script once and it was very different. Cochrane didn't fly the ship in the draft script. Picard and Geordi did. Riker was on the enterprise fighting the borg while Picard and Crusher take an injured cochrane to a post- apocolyptic hospital in a small town. Picard has a love interest with one of the nurses and their is a weird mystery they have to solve to fix the Phoenix. I'm glad they changed the script and story.

I didn't find Data surviving gunshot wounds strange at all. However what i could not believe was the hardened WW3 survivor, who likely had to fight over scraps the last 3 years, and who's initial responce to seeing tresspassers is to light them up with a SMG, faints upon not killing Data.

Data was wearing a bulletproof vest.

Maybe long range sensors refers to interplanetary distant maybe even interstellar.

As already mentioned, the weapon in use is of a caliber readily stopped by simple kevlar weave. Arrows and bullets do damage differently, bullets deform and are ultimately just small blunt objects moving very fast, while arrows are sharp piercing objects with a lot more mass behind them. Kevlar weave will fail against an arrow or knife. Data's substrate could easily be resistant to one and not the other. Also, star charts are a critical component of navigation and astrogation, and don't need anything more active than a regular camera since it's all comparison to reference charts. Anyone with a reason to have a keen eye for the stars should be able to tell you roughly what time of night it is, or rough latitude. When you can take a picture and compare it to old pictures (or do math to project where stuff was supposed to be) it's not much of a stretch to do. Hell, they brought celestial navigation back to the syllabus at Annapolis.

Honestly, the entire Borg "war" makes no sense at all, and any attempt to reconcile all of the inconsistencies are just an act of religious faith. You have the Borg who are a large power where one cube is a match for many Federation ships. Then you learn that they have a transwarp drive where they can pop around the galaxy at will. Then you learn the Borg have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of these cubes. --- So, in the initial conflict, the Borg send a cube which almost succeeds in its mission. So what do the Borg do? The logical thing, right? They send in 5-10 cubes to wipe out the very weakened Federation and assimilate everyone and their technology. Nope, they don't do that... instead they have a convoluted plot to go back in time to either just absorb humanity or stop them from becoming warp capable. ---- Why do this? Without developing their technology, the Borg wouldn't even bother assimilating humans who are biologically inferior to many other species out there. Instead of gaining the Federation, they would have simply removed us from the space faring 24th century, gaining nothing. Yet, in the movie this is exactly what happens...

Sensors: I do not know, if they mean one or more systems. I believe there are more ment. Like 3 different short range sensors. One of them could be passive, like a simple camera. Our eyes are passive sensors. And they can see constellations and the computer can compare and calculate the date.

I think one of the bigger flaws in this movie, was the notion that the missile would still be there, following a global war involving nuclear war.

It takes fairly high levels of phasers fire to disable Data and lore, knowing how strong and fast Data is you're going to need a very sturdy frame to withstand that, he's proven to be stronger faster and more sturdy than a borg, the arrow may have damaged something but I don't think it would really be permanent damage or a part of his body that he really needs that much since he operates just fine and doesn't appear to need it much, according to some dialogue even spoken by Data his endoskeleton skull and spinal struts are made of a similar or the same material that starship plating are made of and other sorts of strong materials, Starfleet ships were shown with standing atomic bomb levels of force or more than that from Phasers and torpedoes, so Data is pretty sturdy even if a guy could shove a spike through his chest, perhaps his frame was weakened in the crash or maybe that guy was really strong one of the two!?

In regards to the mid 21st century clothing issue. There are replicators in the transporter rooms for just such an occasion

Weird that Crusher uses the hypo spray against her neck but uses it through 1 lined jacket, 1 sweater, 1 shirt, and what ever body armor she is wearing on herself.

I've never had an issue with the engineering scenes. I always assumed the Borg were trying to attract as many personnel as possible to build up enough force to take Engineering quickly and without alerting the rest of the ship as they will still be extremely vulnerable until they've established a Hive and created enough drones to adapt to Star Fleet phasers and not totally deplete their numbers, so messing with systems buried in the bowels made tactical sense to me. The temperature eventually hits 39.1 degrees C, which is HOT, as in above internal body temperature hot. Even if it's not at that point yet, it'll be getting there so I can imagine that discomfort coupled with the frustration at not being able to fix what was probably assumed to be a minor issue, given La Forge's nonchalant order made Porter rather gung-ho about jumping into a Jeffries Tube. My interpretation (Although never actually shown by dialogue or visuals so could be taken as speculation) is that while the camera is set back to zoom in for that 'gotcha' moment, the Borg or assimilated colleague may well have been a lot closer so the woman may not have had time to react. As for why she isn't armed or calling security; my interpretation is that Porter hasn't been heard from for an extended period, so it the female engineer is concerned he's fallen or is otherwise injured; these things happen and isn't necessarily a job for security and calling medical will need more information than just "he's gone quiet and I don't know where he is right now". They are engineers, safely working in engineering so not carrying phasers is perfectly logical. It would have been weird to me if they had been armed. Of course I recognise some of this is my leaps of faith/suspension of disbelief. Ultimately, I LOVE First Contact and is my favourite Star Trek film above all others and no amount of bashing or nit-picking can change my ongoing enjoyment of it.

The tos plot hole where the frak is Gary seven's superhuman race?

Coming from a mechanic standpoint, having an entire deck's env. controls go "haywire" is unlikely to be a small issue. He should have approached that differently

Regarding the Sensor issue: My interpretation is that the short range sensors were not powerfull enough to pebnetrate the site in necessaary dept. After all they know it is a missle side that is subterrainian.

smart enough to bring a security team I guess

maybe the long range sensors give more detail than passive sensors do since they only give basic info out

Given that chakoty tells a story to 8472 in disguise that his uniform remained in the pattern buffer it’s very possible that transporters can change your clothes. Granted he could have been lying but I don’t see a reason to do so.

maybe it's a difference between passive radar, and active radar where you can get some data but not as accurate reading of targets

Regarding the clothes and the transporter: ....This is notwithstanding Kirk's Kelvin-timeline jokes about the uniforms being beamed onto some cadets....

10:39 I assumed it was the radiation. I forgot that data was susceptible to damage from arrows when I first saw the movie. Yeah, I guess the writers forgot that too. It did make it more interesting to think Data was deflecting bullets like Superman. Does that mean he could take direct phaser or disrupter fire?

Data is always trying to improve himself. So it would make sense if he reenforced his body to be able to withstand the rounds he was hit bye. It seems to me to be a foreshadowing of data has ability to resist things that a human could not.

14:20 what i never got is how data OF ALL PEOPLE didn't grasp the "touching something makes it feel more real" bit. exactly *because* he's now got more information about the object should show him (in a sense) why picard would have that kinda emotional response.

Friday the 13 th Jason drone lol

Windows disconnect sound @13:25

Would you be interested in doing a video speculating on the actual number of casualties suffered on the Enterprise-E during First Contact? There’s a LOT that’s open to question from whether or not the Borg assimilated everyone on the decks below main engineering to how many people could have been saved - as in the recently assimilated and nanoprobed-but-not-assimilated-yet crewmen - after the Queen’s (gruesome), ah, “liquidation” caused the mini-Collective to fall apart. I mean, every escape pod was launched, but how many of the 1000+ crewmen on board actually got to go home at the end of the movie?

The clothing thing didn't really bother me, because I just assumed the computer basically eaves drops on what everyone is doing. Regarding the Data being shot thing - why would you voluntarily take shots? What if she had a grenade or something that could have actually hurt him?

So here's another thing. If the middles fuel wasn't exchanged for less violent fuels having lily fire off a high cap mag of rounds would have possibly killed the whole room. A compound Hydrazine fuel with N4O2 fuel. Both under high pressure and the tanks and skin of the missile are THIN. A hammer could puncture a tank or, as what happened in Arkansas in the late 70's a huge honking wrench socket. Big enough to put a soft ball into the hole. One slipped during routine maintenance, fell down and on the bounce up richocheted into the missile as it started spewing hundreds of gallons of hydrazine compound that filled the silo and after attempts to rectify the situation the fuel combusted. Basically if chochran couldn't modify the titan 2 to use the same fuel as the sr71 bird with jp7 or cheaper iteration... lily just killed everyone in the silo.

I don't agree that the tricorder could identify individuals from hundreds of years ago

Voyager's run also throws a new question onto this film. Where are the guys who police time travel? You would think they would show up in full force to make sure a time-traveling borg ship didn't rewrite the entire alpha quadrant.

The borg can survive in the vacuum of space.... Except when a romulans shoots them out of a old cube... Then sevens cries

"hear here"

I'm less concerned with the clothes and more concerned that Beverly took the time to get her hair done.

Seeing this movie, did starfleet staff always help in the repairs and launch or does this create a alternate timeline not too dissimilar to the original launch?

First Contact not the first Star Trek I saw in theaters, that would be The Undiscovered Country, but it's the first movie I saw after getting into Star Trek. So it's always special to me. 🙂

Ya know. Now that i think about it this movie was my introduction to liking star trek. I spent one summer In middle school every morning watching this movie again, and again facinated by it, and then after that my brother introduced me to a game called Star trek Armada. I think it was the second game of it not sure though.

It's my favorite Data scene.

I always felt like the transporter dressed them. I mean it's star trek why not.

The board could have already been discreetly assimilating the ship and a by-product of their technology integrating with other technology could be Heat

All I thought was Data was a T 9000 it takes care of what ever in the scene

Question, will you do a series on Star Trek Generations?

First things first, the security team [No Warf? Really?] is in the back, that's a No-No. The security team always enters first. I had no problem with data being shot, I'm not alone in wondering up until that point, what would happen if he was. When it comes to the Borg, body-horror is the name of the game. I was happy to see they finally depicted some of the more gruesome aspects. The whole movie was Messy. Sadly you can see Patrick Stewart's ego starts to creep in here.

The clothes part never bothered me. The movie wanted to explain the change. Not really a big deal. The style of clothing wasn’t a problem either. The movie is of it’s time.

Navigational sensors?

Edited to fix some of my egregious spelling and grammar errors. Triganomitry. Three known points and some very accurate latitude and longitude from the computer with some quick math from data, or the computer will put you very close. This is something we teach soldiers very early in their careers in the military now, well at least 15 years ago. Its simple math and the more exact the known locations the more exact your final point will be. Example for this case: 1. long/lad for known object one, two, three, hell maybe 40, the ships computer and data are pretty powerful calculators 2. The respected angles of each object toward your point of interest, really you do not need the angles. 3. The simple way where the lines intersect is the point of interest. Or the hard way, with the law of cosines, this one isn't taught to soldiers generally, but people who teach their 2 nd graders calculus would have taught them this by kindergarten. Basic use in this case, you're looking for the distance from the objects to the point of interest knowing only the angle and both distances 'X' & 'Y' from the point, your 'rise over run.' You'd then plug that info into the formula C^2=A^2+B^2-(2AB(COS(♧))) where ♧ is the angle to the point of interest from north. The the sqrt(C^2) will give you the distance to the point of interest. Two or three of those will give you a very good idea of what's happening. With 7 and the right significant digits will put you as close as GPS. Cross reference that with historical data base and you know that there is a missile base in the area. I love you channel keep it up. -JAG

If the transporter took care of clothing for you when you transported to an alien world or Earth in the past, I'm pretty sure at least one of the away team would have looked down to make sure the computer got the clothes right. I'd be looking down to make sure the computer didn't transport me down into a$$less chaps and nothing else, NO ONE LOOKED AT THEIR CLOTHES!! after transport, look at everyone's eyes, the away team was well aware of their clothes before transport.

The Borg drones can survive in space... so temperature is less an issue... it's about giving the Borg Queen, her optimal environment... she may be less resilient in the vacuum of space

Do do, do. Do, do do do!

Can the transporter change my clothes?

I don't care that Picard didn't tell the computer _where_ to send the clothes. That's the least of his omissions. How about, clothing for how many people? What are their sizes? How many men, how many women? What part of Earth? (Actually he doesn't even say Earth at all; since much of the Federation seems to have adopted the calendar by which this is known as the "mid twenty-first century," he might conceivably have been asking for a Tellarite outfit.) What season? What's the weather like? What level of formality do you want? The outfit you'd wear to a beach volleyball game would not blend in at a presidential inauguration, or vice versa; but both could equally be described as civilian clothing. And I don't really care about any of that, either. I know you can't spare more than an offhand line without breaking up the pace of the movie. But maybe Picard could have delivered that line to an extra instead; tell a junior bridge officer to have the replicator get clothes ready. This junior officer would be able to fill in the answers to all of those questions on his or her own.

It's always the EPS conduits

Wait a minute. If the vulcans were watching earth, monitoring for humans to achieve warp capability...(to the extent they made first contact the next day), shouldn't they have noticed the Borg, the Borg ship, the weapons fire, the Enterprise, the detonation of quantum torpedoes, the transporter being used, the Borg ship being destroyed, the human life signs on the ship, the communication between the ship and people on the surface... Wtf?!? Were they on lunch break or something? How'd they not notice all this going on?

Dammit...a comment for the last video...maybe the reason why the sphere didn't obliterate the camp was because, as Lore mentioned, time travel comes with a butterfly effect. Thus, the Borg only wanted to do the bare minimum to keep the Cochran flight from happening.

My theory why the Borg steel changed the temperature... Native Borg can survive in space yes what about recently a simulated people maybe a simulation technology needs a particular temperature and humidity so that new grafted Borg parts do not fail instantly and have time to adapt to the new body nanobots can only do so much probably and they do take time to develop and reproduce anything that reproduces needs a good temperature

Gallows humor has long been a coping mechanism used by military, police, and EMT personnel world wide. After everything the Enterprise crew has been through, I'd be surprised if they didn't start using it themselves.

Get the replicator to create clothing so they will fit in and not draw attention / suspicion. Bring marble skinned - yellow eyed Data along with them...