Picard: THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS! Interrogator: Huh? *looks back* Oh, damn it! *uses intercom* Cheryl, call maintenance please. Number 5 burned out again.

Fun story: my college history professor was one of the experts who helped the writers with the torture scene

And after all of this Picard seemed totally fine in the next episode. He obviously passed on his technique to O'Brien since after spending an episode angsting about his memory of his decades in prison he was back to normal too.

Warner doesn't have a booming voice like some of the other great actors, but the way he speaks conveys an...almost Godfather like menace. He's in control, and his mode of speech perfectly conveys that fact to the audience. Even in his Gorkon scenes in Undiscovered country, you got the impression this was not someone to trifle with. He's one of my favorites to be sure.

Maybe the initial eye level was done on purpose. Think about it this way, at that point in the story, Picard believes both himself and Madred to be equals; held by the treaty. We have level eye shot with Madred, and then one with Picard. But then the next shot has both, and there you see a height difference. And then there is their discussion on archaeology where they both seem to be seated at equal level. As time moves on, Picard is lower, and Madred is higher.

There are 4 lights.

The impetus for this episode is literally 'Keeping up with the Cardassians.'

Listened to this while working, and even if you told me he was a cardassian, all I heard was Ra's Al Ghul interrogating Picard. Made me all giddy, wish he'd called Picard detective, just once. God I love Warner's voice when he has a role he can just drink in.

David Warner was also in The Final Frontier as the Federation Ambassador and in Titanic as the Man servant to the abusive spoiled brat, Caledon Hockley.

I don't know why CBS gives you grief, your videos are nothing but complimentary.

And yet despite all this, Picard's most traumatizing experience was still the Borg stuff. At least the Borg fed the man and even gave him a name!

The federation already denied their knowledge of what Picard was doing so he’s not actually a prisoner of war. I’d like to think the cardasians expected that and planned for it so the torture would be legal not because they wouldn’t do so if it weren’t but because it couldn’t be used against them in future diplomacy.

After this can you do the torture of Sheridan in Babylon 5

The effort put into these is amazing. Keep up the great work man!

Great analysis!!!! I understand the point of this episode, especially with Sir Patrick's support of Amnesty International. However, I always thought that after his experience with the Borg, Picard should have laughed in Gul Madred's face. "Is this the best you can do?1?!?!? Stripping my clothes off?!?!?!? Compared to the Borg, you're an amateur!"

Please finish the 2nd part of the episode.the 1st was simply brilliant we deserve a 2nd part.

"and now, Picard must suffer..." And, QUE in WaWa ad! Good one KZfaq, well played.

I don't think any other actor could have played this out as well as David Warner did. That guy has amazing skill in playing off another person. Ie Scream 2, Tron, Batman TAS, etc.

I love your channel. Your scene analysis really helps add a new dimension that makes watching them more interesting. It makes for a more complete viewing enjoyment.

Star Trek and a cinematography lesson. Love it.

I've been waiting for this one for a while

@Lore, will you also do the Riker vs. Jellico scenes on Enterprise-D. It's easy to make fun of Troi's dress code, but seeing Riker go "mutineer" is also fascinating.

The actor of Gul Madred.... also the voice actor of Jon Irenicus of the Baldur's Gate 2 PC game.

Brilliant and brutal. Patrick Stewart and David Warner are definitely the yin and yang of this episode.

I saw this episode when I was 13, that Gul Madred was terrifying.

I'd love a breakdown of every torture scene from this episode, love this episode and the actor 🙂 so sad we never saw more of him, imagine him interrogating Klingon prisoners during the Dominion war, seeing him break a Klingons spirit or a romulans logic 🙂😁

Lore Reloaded: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oseKfa-Jr5ysg58.html: Do you think it may, perhaps, signify a false sense of security in this camera angle "stance", so to speak. Picard "thinks" he is going to babble his way out of this on equal grounds when Picard knows full well he is in danger, but later on we see who really holds the power when they interrogate Picard. The camera angle position signifies that relationship.

Excellent job! I love when you do the scene breakdowns

David Warner was also the Federation Ambassador in Star Trek V

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It just occurred to me that the Cardassians actually lucked out by selling their cultural artefacts. After the Dominion War, maybe they can find these things again and use them to help reignite their culture.

The camera facing the cardassian at eye level and not at Picard's height isn't an accident. The purpose is to put the audience directly into the scene. The cardassian isn't looking at Picard in that shot, he is looking at YOU. Sizing YOU up. Weighing his options against YOU. The viewer is the one meant to be intimidated by that shot, Picard is just our proxy.

The thing about the Cardassian actor is that he didn't even get a chance to read the script he was reading off of cue cards the whole time.

You said that when the blindfold was taken off Picard and they were eye level, looking through Picard's eyes was a mistake. Since Picard asked for a neutral representative, maybe Picard thought that he was an equal due to the treaties, since it was through Picard's eyes.

Rest in Peace David Warner, may you go where no man has gone before 🕯

I know this channel is about much more than scene analysis, but this is the reason I am here. The more I can learn, the better. Is there a chance we can lean into the writing a bit more? I'm not suggesting sacrificing the analysis of the direction, but maybe highlighting when the writing is particularly good or bad and how the actors use it.

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS 🤣

David Warner played 3 characters in through out Star Trek. The Gul Madred is perhaps his best. This episode understands the insidious under pinning of torture. Any information gotten from torture is likely fake, anything said is likely to end the pain... and the pain does not end. It is to break your will or have you form a "need" towards the capture (Stockholm Syndrome). They do this through physical pain, mental pain, emotional pain. Or they will find a common ground to from so empathy. Or fake empathy themselves (I don't want to se your tortured, help to help you). They may even do a more sadistic version of good cop/ bad cop where one while assaults you and other will "rescue" you, all to build twisted sense of trust. After you are broken, you are easier to indochinite. Once you are on their side or way of thinking far more likely to freely give any information or aid they request. If you break but can't be molded- then you are of no farther use (unless you have wealthy or powerful family and friends) and your disposed of. If you dont break, they will continue to try until the effort is not worth the work and dispose of you (again unless you have wealthy or powerful family and friends). If you don't stand how can this work, look at military training. You sign-up to be put through and pushed passed physical, emotional, and mental limits. To break you as an individual, because they dont want individuals. They want a group that can act as one, maneuver as one, think as one, behave and act as one. All this is to decrease costly mistakes, and improve survivability for entire group.

A very powerful episode! Great analysis!

Some of the best acting in all of Trek

There are four lights!

I do believe David was the voice behind the main villain in Baldur's Gate 2. The way he could use just his voice to create a great villain was epic.

Great video, did you have to end on the butt shot 😂😂

I've never been interested in film making nor production. I didn't have an aversion to it, it was just never on the radar. I throughly enjoy these. ALSO (IN CAPS FOR ATTENTION) I REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BEING A FREELANCE VOICE ACTOR ON THE SIDE. I LISTEN TO AUDIOBOOKS A LOT AND I THINK YOUR VOICE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT.

The acting is really good in these scenes, without being extremely graphic. There is torture, but it is implied with a device. With all that happened to Picard, I’m sure he would have to quit star fleet with everything he went through.

Did anybody here know that David Warner was originally supposed to play Freddy Krueger?

@13:59 *DAT AZZ!* lol

Luckly Gul Madred wasn't as sadistic as Janeway, i mean, could you imagine what she would have done... its a disturbing thought!

Based on Closet Land (1991) with Alan Rickman and Madeline Stowe

This is how you do interrogation as more of a performance than graphically showing it, eh Kurtzman

There are 16 lights

You forgot Warner was also trek V tff ufp ambassador.

13:46 how come Starfleet couldn't have sent counselor Troi to do this mission ? 😆

David Warner is fab!

There are four lights

A vid like this one just makes me feel the need to watch some of the highlights of TNG again. Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊

I can't wait to see more from this episode!!! It has always confused me so I hope this will help. Also I hate CBS!

OMG ..the amount of ads in this video, KZfaq decided I needed to take an hour to get through this. 11 sets of ads in total.

A good video, sadly it seems to be demonetized. Probably a certain word in the title. Algorithms know no mercy. Maybe a more "baity" title that get's more hits in searches by including some key words like i.e.: "how many lights do you see - one of STAR TREK TNG's most controversial episodes analyzed". But even "controversial" might be a harmful title word. But who am I with 76400 less people who follow me. Just some guy who doesn't know better and simply want's to remind you of those pesky algorithms. Which even look in the audiotrack if these forbidden words are spoken. I wish you the best.

How is this cardasian so unprepared for Picard's ability to handle this situation?

Captain Jericho just wanted his shot at the flagship that's why he convinced Starfleet command to send Captain Picard.

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Obsidian Order is Cardassia....

I get Picard had special knowledge great write a memo. Nietchiev used Mackenzie Calhoun for missions like this. He'd have killed all the cardasians & come away with the info. Picard is soft and cracked under torture, hell before the torture just truth serum Then being captured by the Borg and willingly giving up, I am not buying the drug story, how the he is he still in starfleet let alone command of the flagship. He should be in prison. Actually considering Picard is such a liability they should try that memory wipe his entire career every scrap of information.

Classic interrogation psychology... the switch between cruelty and empathy... to bond with your victim... after a session of torture, an act of kindness will psychologically cause the victim to want to reach out and cling to that kindness... to create Stockholm syndrome effect

It's a shame Picard had to go through this so the Enterprise could finally get an actual captain.

A real interrogator would handle Picard better than the Cardassian shown here.

Admiral Nechayev should have been fired or reassigned after this mess, not promoted.

Lore we don't need a lesson on how to make film ,sorry well at least I don't why cause I don't care if you look into how films are made then you miss the magic Infront of you

Captain Jellico did nothing wrong.

What the hell, 15 minutes of ads on a 15 minute video

Those 4 👎 are probably from you altering David Warner’s golden voice in any way. I understand why you had to do it, but I sympathize with them. I’ll 👍 it under protest though

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Cardassians are all alike. You talk too much!!!