Folks a prayer request for my father , he's in a bad way, need God's grace.

Ronny Cox, who played Jellico greatly enjoyed playing the character. He liked how Jellico came in and ruffled everyone's feathers, especially since Roddenberry didn't like conflict between the characters. Cox also elaborated that he never saw Jellico as a villain. A bit of a hard-ass, but not a villain.

Jellico was presented in such a way so that he seemed like 'a bad guy', an adversary for our beloved enterprise command staff to have to overcome after having served under Picard 'the explorer' (who was Rodenberry's ideal captain). In the end, Jellico was the right man for the job. He didn't want a war, but he'd be damned sure to win it if it broke out. This video was a great analysis.

Let's not forget Jellico's most important and lasting change: requiring Troi to wear a uniform when on duty. It was a much better look for Marina Sirtis than her earlier costumes.

The more "realistic" sense I ever got from older Trek in TNG and DS9 is that despite how far humanity has come, when push comes to shove, they are still "humans" in their emotions and ambitions. For me, I felt the writing of old Trek convey the human condition and even the grit without today's flashy special effects and melodrama and especially F-Bombs everywhere

I would have loved to have seen a Jelico-centered series. Hell, a Jelico comic mini-series during the Dominion War would be awesome.

I love these two episodes and I wish we had gotten to see Captain Jellico in future episodes (as was originally planned). While Jellico was made out to be 'bad guy,' it was actually the crew of the Enterprise, sans Data, who were revealed for their bad behavior and inability to conform to the reality of their new situation. Captain Jellico was preparing them for a war he felt was all but inevitable. And, in the end, it was only through his determination and genuine expertise as a soldier that war was ultimately avoided. Not only did Captain Jellico prevent a war, he was able to do so without the Federating having to concede any territory AND, he saved the life of Captain Picard and prevented him from spending untold years as a captive of the Cardassians. And for that, his thanks was to have the crew of the Enterprise act like a bunch of spoiled children and treat him with thinly veiled contempt.

Jellicoe reminds me of two quotes from President Theodore Roosevelt; "Speak softly and carry a big stick". and "Never hit at all if it's honorably possible to avoid hitting, but never hit soft".

I disagree about going after Picard, things were on a knife edge as it was. Riker would have charged in with the Enterprise and started a war that they were trying to avoid. The way Jelico played it was spot on, if the Cardasians wanted a fight he could blow them all to hell and nothing would be between him and Picard. If they caved (as they did) he could negotiate from a position of strength to get him back. Overall, Riker was just a dick because he wasn't given command of the Enterprise and showed his ass.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance

Ronny Cox, a good actor. I enjoyed watching him as captain. Its too bad we never saw him again.

I like to think that Jelico's changes on the Enterprise were part of his plan. He talks about the Cardassian's being wolves and attacking the weak. Take a look from the Cardassian viewpoint. Here is the flagship of the Federation and the tension on the ship is palpable. People are rushing around in almost a panic. It has a new Captain and halfway though meetings the first officer is suddenly replaced. It would feed into the Cardassian's sense of superiority and to them it is clearly a sign that the Federation is not prepared for a war in any way. If they strike now they can catch the Federation off foot and grab what they want. So the Cardassian's played directly into Jelico's hands. As for sending a party to rescue Picard. The Cardassian's would be sure to be prepared for that plus if the away team was captured it would be more political coin for the Cardassian's to use.

Jellico was excellent in this episode for the simple reason of telling Troi to put on a proper uniform.

No Jellico is right about sending another team. He knows the best odds of getting Picard back are through negotiations. Another team floating around could be lost on an extremely low chance of success high likelihood of death or capture mission. They could cause the Cardis to panic and attack. They could be on one of those Cardi ships when he has to blow it up. It’s a bad play. Jellicos right.

That fable is absolutely true in the real world You can see it in action. We are entering the "hard times" phase right now

I liked Jellico. He was a hard ass. I would have liked to have seen him and Admiral Nechev on DS9 in the Dominion War. And the Captain of the Phoenix.

This is the best Star Trek channel on KZfaq for sure! Happy I found your page a while back!

It would have been nice to see Jellico on ds9 and interacting with Worf during the war

If Jellico had told his senior officers and department head WHY he was doing everything it would've been better. These are not war military type officers so what he is doing makes no sense to them without further info. Hell it would be like Jellico taking command of a cruise ship and trying to make it a battleship without informing the crew of his intentions. Especially since no-one is expecting war. As far as the crew knows this is a negotiation mission and Jellico is only a TEMPORARY Captain and Picard will be coming back. He has enough time to explain things to SENIOR staff and DEPARTMENT HEADS.

Speak softly, but carry a BIG stick, still rings true

To be frank if the Admiral made one mistake, it was installing Jellicoe on Enterprise instead of sending her along with Cairo as a Task Force under Jellico's overall command.

7:34 I often ask a simple question when watching TNG episodes after season 2. And that question is, "How radically different would a given episode be if Dr. Pulaski had stayed on as chief medical officer instead of bringing back crusher?" And I tend to find that the answer is almost always "immensely". Like in the the jellico episodes. I genuinely believe that Pulaski would have fully understood Jellico and provided ALOT of balance in regards to being either a bridge between Jellico and Riker, seeing as how Riker hates Jellico because he's very much like his own father. Or Pulaski would have effectively been a contrast turning against Riker and scolding him viciously. Perhaps standing in for Jellico in the "save us all" scene near the end where Jellico asks riker to pilot the ship. I could easily have seen Pulaski, after years of watching Riker coast along, never truly appreciating the magnitude of command, tear him apart for being a petty, childish, sniveling brat in what could be the federations greatest moment of crisis. Pulaski was the best character to ever step foot onto the enterprise D, and her absence past season 2 functioned as a contrast to just how deluded and ridiculously naive the rest of the crew truly were. Case in point. Back to that moment when Jellico informs crusher to prepare sickbay and crusher replies snidely with a state of being insulted by the very notion of that sickbay should ever have to prepare for a casualty situation, like jellico is intending for people to die on purpose and taking delight in it. Had pulaski been there, I feel jellico would only have had to look to pulaski knowing she was already 2 steps ahead of him, and she would simply have nodded knowing without saying, that her captain had made one of the most painful and difficult decisions of that day with the heaviness of burden only an experienced commander in a time of war can shoulder, to send those under his charge to battle and likely death. If crusher were under her command, she would have removed her from duty for that pitful and disgraceful reaction to Jellico.

Steve Shives, who loves his some Riker, has a great video about how cool Jellico is. This is a great analysis, too. I like the idea of sending in a "rogue" rescue team though I can't fault Jellico or the writers for not thinking of it. Nicely done, as always, sir.

Commander Shelby: we are projecting 18 months before this weaponry is ready. Captain Jellico: Why are you showing this stuff when it is useless to me and the current situation? The Borg have a weak spot...I suggest you look for it rather showing me weaponry which is complete useless to me!

Jellicoe : a true Federation hero .

1. Rearranging the ship AND pissing off the entire Senior staff at the same time is bad idea on any vessel. 2. Reassigning engineering to Security than demanding more from Engineering is unrealistic to put it mildly. In any confrontation hand-to--hand combat will be secondary to keeping the ship working. 3. The difference between Maxwell and Jellico is one bad day. 4. Pointing out "potential mistakes" is a duty of the XO, the fact that Jellico relieved him for that was dumb. 5. Riker is like because balance emotion and logic well on most occasions.

You are incorrect in your assessment of Picards situation. The federation had disavowed knowledge of picards actions. He was a "renegade" acting on his own. Sending a rescue team A: would have proven starfleet had violated the treaty, but not just that, a rescue team, WOULD have been an act of war, period. It would have ended with cardasian casualties, and likely damaged or destroyed cardasian ships. This was the last thing the federation needed or wanted at this time of the negotiations. ANY rescue attempt would have given Validity to the cadasian claims.

Give Jellico a Galaxy X.

I really like your layout and narration of your content. It makes go back and watch episodes.

Jellico is probably my favorite TNG era Captain.

I liked the way they portrayed Riker in this episode. Even pretty good people have bad days.

The problem with Jellico is that he never got any buy in with his command crew. He wanted a bunch of yes men, which depending on the situation, if you had experienced military officers, can be good. However, if you are going to overhaul the crew structure of a science ship then role into battle without being hands on, your going to get your crew killed.

The problem was, as others have mentioned, the guy made changes on the ship that didn't make much sense. Trimming departments to put into security was an issue if their training wasn't for combat but instead, say research or repair work. Also the issue with the crew was that the contempt was kind of both ways, he didn't listen to them and sort of assumed that their complaints were just whining or not wanting to change. Riker may have been over the line but it's also hard to respect a new boss that comes in and ignores every other person there especially those that are supposed to be serving as advisors. It isn't like the ship was failing, it was just designed to do a different job. Also...the mines proved to work but that could have nastily backfired as it could have been seen as being as much an act of war as actively firing on the ships. Sure, he could have done worse but that doesn't change the fact that what he did was somewhat dubious.

A great video. Looking forward to your next chain of command video🖖

Jellico is the boss nobody wants but has a reputation for getting the job done. Necheyev also to me one of my favourite admirals and disliked by alot, I am sure in the Cardassian wars she was a captain and saw her fair share of combat, but she rose through the ranks which is where we see her, we can only guess about her Starfleet career but she would have seen the Cardassian War too and would have her own expertise - i think it would have been a fun episode to see her in command of the Enterprise for this two parter and develop her character more and we see why she is the way she is. things could have been implemented in the same way Jellico did on the Enterprise shift patterns, reallocation of resources, increasing the ships efficiency as well, and then pull the rabbit out of the hat with maybe relieving Riker from duty which would have been another ruse in case there were any Cardassian undercover operatives om board that Necheyev and Riker come up with the plan to put mines on the hulls of the cardassian ships - a slightly different approach as Necheyev will have understood Rikers concern and would also want Picard back and she would have her own unique diplomatic but tactically cunning approach to dealing with the Cardassians and fans would have seen why she is a good admiral, instead of one that many dont like. But alas thats just my take on things. I am glad Jellico got Deanna into a uniform as well, it did seem inappropriate for her to be swanning around in a sort of onesie when she was a Starfleet officer and should be in uniform. Jellico put people in their place so to speak, where Picard never did like overstepping their bounds, Jellico and you can bet Necheyev would in her unique way too. It is also a shame we didnt hear any name drop in this two parter about the warning from Ben Maxwell about the Cardassians rearming and preparing for another war like we saw in The Wounded - I think - that he had been right, despite the ending of that episode where Picard said that they woul dbe watching - they obviously hadnt been if the Cardassians were able to do so much

The one thing I would fault Jellico in regards to his management of Riker is a failure in communication, he imposed radical changes with no warning and lack of context, in a military operation there is a hierarchy and information can be need to know basis, but even in that lens, Riker wasn't properly briefed by Jellico, he was the outsider, he needed someone from inside the enterprise to know the situation and understand the reasons behind his commands (even if he doesn't agree with them), if something were to happen to Jellico no one else shared his agenda.

Th best part of the episode was when jelico made troi put on a goddamn uniform

I attended a convention years ago where Marina Sirtis said something provocative. She hinted that Jelicho was partially included as an audience test for a possible replacement for Patrick Stewart should he no longer wish to renew his contract or ask for to much money. Wonder what that alternate timeline looks like.

“If you want peace prepare for war.” - Publius Flavian Vegetius

Captain Jellico behaved like a real captain of a major twenty first century naval vessel. He displayed absolute competence to command a galaxy class starship

Great video! Keep it up keep them coming🤘

Jellico is an example of how someone can be both right and be really bad at how he executes it. Bad commanders give declaratory orders with no explanation, good commanders explain to their senior staff why they are taking steps. Especially if you are the new Commanding officer. I'm sorry but no one is a hundred percent confident in a new Captain on day one. There is no doubt Riker is insubordinate later in the episode but how Jellico treats his command staff from the get go is antagonistic from the start. It's not surprising they've turned him into a joke on Lower Decks.

I would’ve loved to have watched a couple of seasons with the enterprise commanded by Captain Jellico.

Have a carrot but don't be scared to use the big stick. Jellico was the right man for the job. If starfleet didn't have the likes of Jellico, well...

Ironic how Riker so often comes off like a dick but Frakes is, as far as I can tell, a fantastic guy. With Kirk, it's the exact opposite. "Chain of Command" is a great outing almost torpedoed by the excruciatingly awful way Riker is written.

This was a great video.

Where the writers trying to show Riker as morally right cause he was just selfish in my eyes

I'm a simple man. I see a video about Captain Jellico, I subscribe.

Great review. The beauty about this particular episode is both the Enterprise-D crew and Captain Jellico learned important lessons. Starfleet's successes have always been attributed to balance. No one was wrong per se in the episode, and it's a great example of respective paradigms. Ultimately, Jellico was the right man for the job. The weight of this incident helped evolve everyone involved... There are four lights.

Jellico's main problem is how much he annoyed the crew with constant Dad Jokes.

The Federation not willing to go to war over one colony or one star system in order to avoid war is pretty weak. Jellico has the right mindset. One day they want one minor system. The next day they want one more. Then another. Then another. Next they're wanting a slightly larger and more important system. Then another...then before you know it, the Federation is being walked all over by the Cardassians or the Romulans or the Dominion. The way the senior staff were being with Jellico just shows how short sighted and naive they were and dare I say the general mindset of the Federation. Fortunately for them, they were smart enough to keep a few war dogs around...though in all seriousness, the only real reason why the Federation hasn't been completely wiped out by another faction is pure plot armor.

Jelico should have been a recurring character on TNG. He presented such a dichotomy to the theme of TNG.

Jellico was right to go after Picard, for several reasons: First, Picard is a valuable resource. If there is a war with the Cardassians, he will be needed. Second: Picard has high level access and valuable information. He is a tier 1 intelligence asset to the Cardassians. At a minimum, he needs to be brought back to deny the Cardassians the asset. On the greater scheme, Starfleet needs to know what he told the Cardassians, so they can compromise that intelligence and make useless. Third: Leave no man behind. This is partly out of loyalty to your people, but there is a pragmatic reason for it. The Federation is staring down another war with the Cardassians, who are (by O'Briens accounting) a very fierce enemy. If that happens they will need every soldier to preform to the best of their ability. If a high profile person like Picard is left to rot in a Cardassian prison, this is telling every one, from Starfleet marines to bridge officers, that they could share the same fate. This is a killer for morale, and a military fights on morale just as much as logistics.

"On Earth, there is no poverty, no crime, no war. You look out the window of Starfleet Headquarters and you see paradise. Well, it's easy to be a Saint in paradise, but the Maquis do not live in paradise." -Benjamin Sisko

Jellico was no more right or wrong than Picard, nor was he any better or worse. He was simply different. To Riker's credit, he did attempt to keep his disagreements and arguments private. Something Worf struggled with as Data's XO.

Imagine if instead of Edward Jelico Nechayev had replaced Picard with Captain Benjamin Maxwell think on that! I further submit this for your consideration there's a reason that entities like the Klingons Romulans & Cardassians stay out of the federations yard it's because while I'm sure it's Picards & like minded officers will if necessary defend the federation militarily their emphasis on negotiations could be seen by it's less altruistic neighbors as ringing the dinner bell if that's all they thought they'd have to face it's good for them to think on the existence of officers like Jelico Sisko & Maxwell are to be found among their ranks as well when they get to militarily feeling themselves to much!

You really also need to be referring to the episode “The Wounded” with this episode as well.

Riker's main weakness is his emotional attachment to Picard. As First Officer his first duty is to the ship and its mission. He himself says it to Troy when she is doing here tests to become commander (which she already is by the way - see Distaster - but never mind). Picard also says it multiple times whenever someone else takes over as commander of the ship. But sometimes Rikes seems to forget his duty and puts saving Picard above everything else. Whenever he does that as in Chain of Command, but also in for instance Darmok, it goes wrong. I mean, in Darmok it's almost THE END for the Enterprise. If he does get it right, as in Best of Both World, he is succesfull.

Nicely done. Ronny Cox has a talent for playing abrasive characters. Not to start a new argument but I could see him as Section 31.

I was always curious what Jellico did during the Dominion War. I imagine he'd have served well in a capacity similar to Sisko, if not as a full-on Commodore. I mention that rank because it's not seen in the TNG era but examples such as Decker from TOS still commanded starships. In his case, I figure he'd take on the role if not the rank and lead a fleet or task force quite sharply.

If jellico had practiced better active leadership, he would have gotten buy in from department heads by explaining his intentions and why he does things the way he does, and where he saw the situation going. This is something we are taught to lead our own teams IRL.

love this video, yeah so much military -civilian tension

well Captain/commodore Nacheyev made her name in the cardassian border war. for her decisive approach, and relentless conviction.

@8:13 -- Scientific research? They did not read former Captain Maxwell's report.

This was a two-part episode. So much happened here, lot's of federation and individual character development. We could spend weeks on these two episodes alone lol.

@4:45 -- Okay so Jelico negotiated the truce to stop the war with Cardassians. Later the Federation govt made the treaty to give away Federation territory to the Cardassians. I would say Admiral Nechev is a War Dog as well.

No. Jellicho is probably the hero that Starfleet deserves, even if not it's not what they wanted. Seriously though, he's a far better and efficient captain that Picard

Starfleet special forces post DS9 would be an amazing series.

4:56 Haven’t seen the episode in a long time, but so far with the way you’re describing him, he reminds me more of mirror Captain Lorca.

Jellico was the epitome of a bad boss. Micromanaged the hell out of everyone; disregarded anyone's input regardless of their knowledge level on the subject; and at the barest mention that he might be wrong, fired the person whose job it was to question him.

I agree completely. If I was Jellicoe I would certainly submit a harsh report on Riker. Frankly the Enterprise shows classic the crew is a little too cozy with each other. I would give Riker props for his piloting skills in that report. But I would also cite I ( Jellicoe ) had to prompt the Commandeer. Every Officer worth their salt believes they are right choice for command! But when the Admiral decides she wants to go with Jellicoe. It is over. NO POUTING!!!!! Everyone in the work world has been passed up for promotion. Hell I have had people I train suddenly become my boss! You have to accept it. You find out how good an employee is when they are assigned to something they disagree with. Do they do the job well, or do they mail it in?

I agree with what you said except. I think Jellico was correct to not allow people from the Enterprise to rescue Picard. on a side note Nevil Chamberlin was the PM of Great Britain at the start of WW2, and he did allow a lot of German aggression prior to going to war.

Let’s go Brandon!

Hey Lore Reloaded, I'd love to see you tackle a interesting Star Trek what-if that I've never seen explained. That is, how would Picard deal with Khan? How would a diplomat handle a warlord of his caliber? I'd love to see what you think would happen.

Jellico was a heartless hard-ass, but he was basically playing poker the whole time. He knew the Cardassian psychology and played it. Appeared insecure to lull them, abrasive and hostile to make them take steps he wanted them to take. The mining was such a clever thing to take them comply. And He kept Picard in the back of his mind all the time. When he spoke terms to the Cardassians in the nebula, he may have given the added line about Picard like an after-thought, but he had the clear-intention from the get-go, using the entire Cardassian fleet as leverage to get Picard out. And that's he true genius of it, getting Picard out without risking another team.

Steve Shives covered this topic some time ago and came to a similar conclusion. That said, I would challenge anyone to name the role, series, film where Ronny Cox doesn't play as a bad guy. As an actor he may be Typecast, but he's really good at it. That's why everybody felt jike Jellico was the bad guy. In Canon, he's a by-the-book officer who everybody clashed with because of the contrast between his command style and Picard's laissez-faire command style. The comparison to Ben Sisko is appropriate.

I did like Jellico but had a couple of thoughts. These war dogs need to be kept on a short leash. They could be an absolute disaster in a first contact situation, so separating military and exploration functions to some extent makes sense. Also, if you know that the captain of the federation flagship is being held captive, his recovery (or at least confirmation that he’s dead) should be paramount. Not just from a morale perspective, but there is an enormous amount of detailed intelligence data that could be gleaned from such a captive. And not even all of it classified. Subtle things like knowing where everyone’s favorite restaurant is in San Francisco, or who won the World Series, or learning about Boothbee. Those are valuable data for intelligence operatives looking to infiltrate Starfleet.

In the military a general who was inspecting my unit said something that sticks with anyone who hears it. The worst thing you can have in war is hesitation, second chances, and compassion for a murderer. Keepnin mind that everyone in a war is a potential murderer. You can call it what you like but you are potentially going to kill people. This is one of the greatest causes of ptsd is soldiers not prepared psychologicallly to handle these circumstances. What he said means very jarring to people in a peace time era. However those in a war time footing saw it as the logical progression of war time combat. You hesitated you die. Never give your enemy a second chance to kill you or beat you in combat. Never have compassion for those trying to kill you including friendly fire.

I am not a huge fan of TNG series, YES I was alive when TOS was on the air, but to me Starfleet always should have been a Navy and then a NSF/NOAA/USGS equivalent for research and exploration or 80% Navy with a few scientists to determine what type of specialists or number of specialists needed to do the science part.

You nailed it on Riker. As a military vet Riker always drove me nuts. He's simply not believable as a command officer because he's such a hot head with little respect for anyone he disagrees with.

Rikers a pure fud man! Capt J shoulda put him in the Brig.

WOW!

*What did Jellico do during the Dominion War?* [Besides tell the Civilian govt "I told you so"]. It would have been interesting to bring him back for DS9, even in passing. And show him to be correct in his attitude - _this is the time for such a man._ And what if Jellico and Sisko formed a mutual admiration society? They would even agree on their opinion on the crew of a certain Galaxy class ship - even if it was a misunderstanding. Jellico mentions the Enterprise and see's Sisko bristle (because Locutus/Picard killed his Wife) and mentions "I've had dealings with them as well… not really military material" or words to that effect. They both have their own personal reasons for disliking that ship, and just assume the other's reason is valid. But it would be a great introduction of the character to the DS9 series if Jellico just appeared with a fleet at the right time to save the day in a deuce ex machina or just a nice deadly pincer movement. And he is thanked by Sisko, who in return is congratulated by Jellico for having committed such a ballsy move as he just did. They behave like two Klingons who admire each other's bravery and glory. A few episode arc where there's a joint operation (and we see how good Jellico really is as a wartime senior Captain), then Jellicos fleet is reassigned to another sector of the war to shore up a different front … and they part warmly with respect for each other. [Jellico does not _"make the ultimate sacrifice",_ he goes on to further adventures outside the area of DS9 … and becomes a fanboy favourite as a example of militant Starfleet. … He's still out there, somewhere, ready to fight].

Hay, could you sometime do a video on why the founding worlds (like earth) seem so poorly defeated.

Jellico was the pinnacle of how Starfleet officers must have a good balance of understanding geopolitical politics with military science to contest potential wars. The civilian Federation government, alongside Picard/Riker's generation, was too focused & possibly ignorant of diplomacy to stop all conflicts. Peace Through Strength basically

Jellico would make an excellent boot camp instructor in getting recruits ready for war though I’d prefer Sisko as my CO whilst on ops. Sisko would also be a hard ass to serve under but he also understands the need to keep crew morale up in dire situations.

Why the hell would you send another team in to rescue Picard? You KNOW they have Picard, you KNOW they'll be expecting an extraction team. The odds of success are so low it's not even worth considering. The Cardasians would be waiting for you and the fact that you DID it would give them the evidence they need to go to war justifiably....if you assume they want a war. You'd literally be handing more officers over for interrogation and they WILL talk. The risk vs reward ratio is insanely low, that's why it was considered a one way trip if Picard was captured. Ricker was incorrect the whole episode. Besides you had the mined ships as your checkmate move to just negotiate his return easy enough.

Quark: “These humans are wonderful, enlightened peaceful people, so long as they are well fed. Take way their replicators, their sonic showers and starve them for three days and these humans are as savage and brutal as the most violent Klingon.”

Question: Do you think that after the Dominion War and Destruction of Mars. That Riker and Jellico would of reached a level of respect with each other? I mean there is alot of years of growth things that happen I would of think that Captian Riker and Captian Jellico would of been friends in 2400. It would be cool to see them in Picard. Although I think Jellico would of retired. Side note: personally I think Nachecyev would of became a politician or a cabinet member in the federation.

Starfleet has 2 main functional divisions. Exploration and Defense. The admiral is wrong in putting Jellico in a exploratory division. The admiral should have put him in the tactical division like Sisko where combat ships like Defiant, Akira and Steamrunners are designated

War time xo ( like the Godfather) in fairness the admiral in that ds9 episode was a holographic recreation of her a simulated scenario to test sisko . I believe she was a veteran of the cardassion conflict with jellice and Maxwell from tbe Phoenix.

In that light Admiral Nechayev was very much needed for the time coming as well. lingering war is an uncomfirtable business, things we didn't want to think about coming out of the golden age, as the transition to a more hands on mentality is probably a tough transition for peace time officers. Although Cardassia might be stronger than average, on their own they still weren't that much of a threat to really rattle the golden age ways. Realistically we can not expect everyone joining starfleet just to explore, either, but also to protect home. I'd recon if any of the command level staff on Enterprise came through security, they would be able to see the value of Admiral Nechayev's and captain Jellico's take on things more readily.

Thanks for the video, Lore Reloaded ! Though I did not really like the character of Capt Jellico, I did like the acting work done by Ronny Cox in portraying him. Ronny was also in several big movies like : Robocop, Deliverance, Beverly Hills Cop and its sequels, etc. (:

The federation needs more man like this

It is most definitely true.

I think another reason Jellico was seen as a 'villain' (unjustly IMO) is because of Ronny Cox. Being a child of the 80s I was used to seeing him typecast as a villain across TV and movies (Robocop, Total Recall), so naturally I expected some inevitable heel turn when he appeared on TNG. Kinda cool he got a more complex, layered character and I wish we had gotten a bit more of him later on in TNG or DS9.

they also wouldve had a thought out scenario in case of wrong/,trap info to beam emergency etc out

Any leadership role in a large organisation is a "sandwich" role. You are the filling in the sandwich between the people who do the work and the people who make the strategic decisions. My impression of Nechayev in DS 9 was that she was representing the high command to Cisco, but she didn't particularly like the situation. However, to maintain authority and command presence, you have to go all-in when representing high command to the troops.

Your opening parable is a perfect description of where we find ourselves now, IRL. Insofar as Jelico vs Riker - To say they are not a good working match is putting it mildly. In Jelico's defense - he is fully expecting a war, and has been given command of a ship full of kids, figuratively and literally, on the front line to fight that very impending war WITH. Having a command staff of prima donnas, well, well out of proper warfighting trim, is not helping at all. They have a reputation as the best starship in the fleet - but in peacetime. War is on the horizon, and these folks are NOT ready. Not even close. (Though in fairness the Dominion conflict fixed all of that shit in one hell of a hurry.) In Riker's defense - Having been repeatedly offered multiple commands, and having directly saved the entire fucking Federation from their OWN stupidity (borg and others), only to be told 'ya hey we dont think you are good enough here' would be an extremely difficult nuke to the ego to get over. He makes a fair stab at it but in the end, I would agree that he does lose sight of the bigger picture, ie war with Cardassia, in his pursuit to get Picard back and what he sees as Jelico getting in the way of that. Making Jelico ask Riker for help is a typical Riker dick move, as he isnt quite cognizant that not all of this problem is Jelico's fault. Jelico, for his part, has little issue with it as its a minor ask in what needs doing. Now, would Riker have risen to the challenge had he been given command of the Enterprise? I would say history supports the thought of yes. While not AS experienced with the Cardassians, he is no less capable of making nasty calls when it comes to it. With Nechayev - this is one of the very, very few times we see a Starfleet admiral use a fucking brain. From her perspective, she sees Jelico has the experience needed to do the job. However, in this case, itd of gone over better had she evac'ed the bulk of the families etc off Enterprise, along with the science staff and non combatants while at the same time changing the command. Unfortunately realistically you couldnt transfer an Excelsior crew onto a Galaxy and expect peak performance right off the bat; so yes the primary functioning crew has to stay. What she had to do was correct, HOW she approached it needed much refining. As far as war dogs? There's a big difference between being pragmatic and recognizing real threats that must be stood firm against, and those that want war at any cost. We dont see that from any of the Starfleet players here - Cardis, yup, Starfleet? Nah. In a galactic empire perspective, you never, ever build without planning for war - because its guaranteed others will. At the end of the day, it is worth noting - this entire fucking mess, again, is solely at the feet of Starfleet itself. They donkeyed HARD, on their intelligence gathering (lack thereof), sending Picard on a suicide mission was braindead, on letting much of the fleet slip out of a proper fighting trim, and the total handling of the entire Cardassian issue is a complete clusterfuck from start to finish. Here's a thought experiment for ya - suppose, instead of Jelico, it was Captain Calhoun that was given command? All in all, generally agree with this one.

Jellico is the leadership that is hard to adjust too when his approach is not the norm. This can be seen with his each nation or districts within handled COVID. Shutting everything from the outside in a complex and large population can extraordinarily difficult. This can be seen in China when construction of massive field hospitals were made in the first month of the outbreak. To the complexity of somewhere like the United States. Just food for thought and it'll be interesting to see how stories are made in the future in regards to COVID containment and the current fentanyl crisis.