+Zach Ream thanks Zach. That means a lot.

sweet! love the new tool feeling. she will treat you wall for years to come.

Sweet! glad I could help!

i dig the bevel up planes. i have all styles, from bailey to bedrock, new veritas smoother wood river, stanley...but my two favorite planes, and the ones that work the best with the least effort for me are my two liw angle planes. veritas becel up jointer and lie nielson vecel up jack. these two planes can do luterally EVERYTHING. my 62 low angle takes such gine to heavy shavings it blows me away.

Thanks. I'm glad I could help.

+Thom spillane very true. I love the feeling of setting up a plane perfictly and getting exactly the curl you wanted.

+David Massey thanks David. That means a lot. Don't have too much fun with the new toys!

My pleasure!

my pleasure Bill!

thanks Chris. Glad I could help out!

lol! I did not catch that one. I am punney with out trying!

Well thanks man that means a lot!

Thanks! both can be a lot of fun to use.

thanks Rone. that means a lot! don't have too much fun with that LAJP that thing can be addictive.

lol yea planning is very addictive.

Glad I could help.

thanks Rick. every tool has a place and an owner.

Very true. I am much the same.

thnaks David!

my pleasure!

lie nielson 62, you will never regret using it a day in your life.

thanks man. glad I could help.

Thanks. That means a lot. Let me know if there's ever something you want to see.

@@WoodByWright will do, thank you sir!

Sounds like fun.it takes more work to setup a chip breaker , but once you see what it can do it is so much fun to play with.

Sweet! Sounds like a great plan!

@@WoodByWright Thanks a lot for all the great content, it's super informative!

Thanks. If you ever have questions let me know.

thanks. glad I could help!

Yeah, I agree! I never knew it did anything more than helping eject the wood chips/curls out of the tool. Super helpful video.

thanks Chris!

Any time. glad you like it.

So true. The mane use of the low angle Jack was for flattening butcher blocks.

@@WoodByWright 'Mane' isn't that what hoses have? I'm a Brit so maybe that is the way you guys spell it. We spell it 'main'. Incidentally, a lot of the stuff we think of as Americanisms - words like 'fall' for autumn and 'sidewalk' for pavement are in fact the old English expressions. You guys didn't change, we did.

+R C well thank you. That means a lot.

LOL thanks? I use to teach Theater scenic design and construction, and Metal working, but this is just me in the shop hoping the thoughts come across.

Wood By Wright you're teaching skills come through James! Respect to you for continuing to teach us old guys :)

1000k great spot dude he's a very good teacher

you are too kind!

Well thank you. that means a lot. if there is ever anything you want to know about please let me know.

Thanks Man!

Thanks! I still like to use both!

thnaks man!

+Bulwul thanks.

Thanks man! That means a lot. yes you can change the angle and you can buy different irons with the angle ready to go, but you can not put a chip-breaker on it.

Wood By Wright I didn’t know about the chip breaker, thanks.

everyone is going to have a different idea as it is a personal choice. unfortunately there is no Best answer.

thanks man!

Sweetness!

I know this is sort of over the top, but I eventually decided that if I was going to be serious, I needed a jointer, a jack and a smoother. I had a couple of older No. 4s, a 60 1/2 and a 65, but decided to buy a #7 jointer, #5 1/2 jack, and #4 1/2 smoother, partly because I can swap irons among all three. Most people aren’t going to want to dive in that deeply. I could probably have learned, and do, 75% of the value with just a #5 1/2 or #5, but using the #7 can really teach you a lot about wood and planes.

+Opa's Workshop I will be doing a shooting board video here soon and this is the one I will use for it.

they have some great uses. the only problem is the antique ones cost almost as much as a new one and more than a new wood river but they are worth it.

great minds think alike. that is on my list of projects.

Well I can't wait to see it. Really enjoy your stuff, been learning a lot from you.

+Cactus! workshop thanks man. Glad I could help.

Very true they are simpler. It is a lot of fun to play with for most situations!

my pleasure Marco!

Sweet. honestly, I feel the BD is the more flexible of the two with the exception of end grain cutting boards. and the far cheaper option!

Sorry. have you been to a MWTCA meet. there is usually a guy with a box of them for $5-20

No reason to say sorry. It's more, what've done. When I was a teenager, I hit every garage sale, and flea market. I had a wealth hand tools, but believed need all these power equipment, and two car garage to keep them in. When I was eighteen, I left my tools with my parents. If you leave something with someone for a decade or two, who actually owns them? I tried to repeat what I did as a teenager, and can't. So, it's not you, but me. What's the MWTCA?

@@Kikilang60 z Midwest tool collectors association. It is a club that is dedicated to the history of hand tools and their meats have the largest hand tool sales in the world. I have a few videos showing some of the sales if you want to see that just search for what is the mwtca.

Very true. I should have brought that up too.

Wood By Wright what type of sharpening plates/stones do you use? Thanks

thanks David!

+Hardnox thanks.

oh ya. so much fun to have a tool to for the right job!

But even with microbevel, this delicate bevel angle won’t help your case with end grain hardwood chatter.

Kinda defeats the purpose then IMO. Actually I don't really buy the whole low angle logic. To me all a low angle jack plane amounts to is a long low angle block plane which I've found unnecessary. Haven't used mine in ages.

Thanks!

No problem bro :)

+Dwayne Mattson I bet that makes a difference for you.

A lot of us. Lol

LOL that is what my watch is always telling me!

Ясно одно. Я не зря купил рубанок номер 62

I do still own this one. It works well though it doesn't feel as good in the hand and there's a few things about it I just find to be a little bit cheaper. That being said it's a good plane and if you treat it right it will do you well. Since that video Tay Tools has started offering one that I find to be a little bit better bang for the buck. Slightly higher quality materials and a little better fit and finish. lddy.no/gt2p

No. If you flipped over a bevel down iron it would make it a very high angle. Also it would chatter as nothing is supporting the iron. So no it does not work like that.

Wood By Wright thank you!

No more problem then a normal bevel down. You can camber a bevel up plane I have an iron for that. But track marks are more about how deep you are cutting.

@@WoodByWright Perfect. Thank you very much!

I have, but the best discussion on it was done by Rex Kruger about a year ago. Very well done video

@@WoodByWright thank you!

Thanks man!

:D

ok grandpa lmao

All the tools I restore for my personal use get painted Metallic Blue. I like the way it looks in the shop. I have a few Records as well but that blue is a bit lighter.

Fair enough. I like the colour and it is easier to see. Black is a dull colour.

It's usually one of two problems if you're clogging in the mouth. Either the mouth is too tight which is the less common problem. Or the chip breaker is not fit well to the iron. Most of the time that's the problem. I have a video on mating the chip breaker to the iron if you want to see more on that.

@@WoodByWright thanks for answering so quick :) I'll watch it. It's 3 or 4 years I'm fighting with it watching lots of videos, trying right away with all the double irons planes but get tired and I only keep my N°5 . Hope the struggle will end soon :D

Here is the video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbeqf8d-2K2noZ8.html if that does not work feel free to send me an email with some pictures and I would be glad to look it over with you. jameswright@woodbywright.com

LOL you can never have enough planes! I have never seen a wooden bevel up plane like this just because the bed would be so thin. I have seen under mounted chisel planes with a bed angle of 0 degrees, but that is something else all together. traditionally Bevel up was mostly just for the Jack and low angle block planes. but now several companies are offering them in the #4 through the #8. I find it most useful int he #5 (great length for a shooting board, cutting boards)

Maybe it is possible to make wooden bevel up plane with steel sole. I think that one day i'll try it. Regards!

+Stavros Gakos sounds like a really fun infill plane.

You just have to know the plane, but rule of thumb is if the bed of the plane is higher then 20 degrees then it is intended to be bevel down. 90%+ of all planes are bevel down. it sounds like yours was put in upside down. but feel free to email me some pictures if you want me to take a look. email is int he about tab on the channel page.

I just kept it at 25 degrees. For end grain work that is great. And that is what I use it for the most.

@@WoodByWright awesome thanks!

I would probably go with the low angle Jack. The only thing it doesn't do well is smoothing out difficult grain. But for that you have the number four. But it is fantastic for doing end grain.

first I would ask why you put a back bevel on the iron and with which method. that is one of the reasons I do not use them it is just another step that is not needed in my book. you can regrind the LAJP but that will make it a very high angle plane. Usually, if you like to flip blades in and out I like to have one at 25 degrees and one at 40. that way you can choose what angle you want for the wood.

Thanks for replying. I work almost exclusively with birch faced multiply - where I live, it's cheap and available. Other woods are more expensive and harder for me to get. I don't drive. My problem, when cleaning up is tear out. Another youtube video suggested two ways to tackle this. The first is to put a back bevel on your Baily pattern blade. The other is to use a LAJP

i see. well to be completely honest neither of those will help you that much. there are three keys to fighting tear out. 1. High hangle 45+ (My smoother is 60 degrees) 2. chip breaker really close to the tip ( i put mine about 2-4 thousands away from the tip.) 3. tight mouth. tear out will never be bigger then your mouth is open.( I keep mine about twice the thickness of the shaving I want to take.) that is all to say that the blade is not just paper cutting sharp, but full shave sharp. With a bevel up plane, you can get the higher angle with a 40-degree iron (52.5-degree cutting angle), you can also easily tighten up the mouth, but you can not put a chip breaker on it. for some people that is enough. with a traditional Bevel down the angle is determined by the frog (normally 45 degrees) you can also close the mouth by moving the frog forward. last you can easily adjust the chip breaker to be VERY close to the tip. Here is a video on setting up a smoothing plane for that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rK1dd7h9uN2aip8.html and here is one on how I tackle tough grain without tearout. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n69yg81hl7vZfn0.html and here is one on a cabinet scraper. they do not cost that much but they do amazing things. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9ObobWemZO2c4k.html Here is the cheap one I recommend. amzn.to/2xJ2qcG I hope that was not too much Information. If there is anything else I can do let me know.

You could do it. But you're going to have to sharpen it every 50 or 60 strokes maybe even less than that. It would push even easier through end grain wood.

@@WoodByWright Thanks,

finding an old 62 is extremely difficult. originally they were only used for end grain cutting boards. And if money is an issue I would counsel you to skip it. you can do anything you want with a Bevel down traditional plane you can find those for a lot cheaper. if you really want a bevel up plane the cheapest route is normally getting the new Stanley. that is what I use in my shop. here amzn.to/2pcslc4 but a Bevel up is not a necessary tool. I went a year or more before getting one.

You don't need a micro bevel on any plane. I actually don't use micro bevels for anything.

actualy the lower the angle the more chance of tear out. that is why most smoothing planes are bevel down. the higher angle will usually provide a smoother cut easier.

so true. one reason I love my wall of planes.

LOL they are getting harder, but I still find them every few months. Most of the time at estate sales. I usually do not buy standard planes if they are over $12-$15, but it depends on where you are.

a few have tried, but it is incredibly difficult to maintain a good fit when you are regularly sharpening and micro changing the surface that the chip breaker sits on.

I’ve just made a couple of rebate planes, low angle bevel up and normal bevel down. That and your video prompted me, as they both are difficult to adjust. I might copy Bearcat as in your challenge and get a Veritas adjuster. I reckon a sharp edged chip breaker might work with the bevel up. I find it a bit of a mystery that some planes work really well and others not so.

yup hammer adjusted planes can be really difficult to master. a lot of fun once you get them but still difficult.

there are several companies that make them this one was made by Stanley but it is their newer cheaper version. not the best on the market but works well.

@@WoodByWright Yeah, I thought as much, I am looking at the Veritas version, bit more expensive but made in Canada, think I will stick with this one, or there is the Luban, made in China but from all reports the quality is fantastic..

right on I do that all the time. Correct, I think most people think they need to change the angle of the cut more often then they do but some people change it all the time. that is a new thing to hand tools.

@@WoodByWright Its all a matter of: how much do we want to spend on irons/planes, how convenient is it to change, how big a difference the angle makes to us personally and the eternal quest for the perfect shaving.

ya, curly maple is not that much of a problem. It is comparatively homologous. As long as you take a low enough shaving it can do that. you should try curly oak or some of the south american switching rotational grains. those are FUN!!

@@WoodByWright ahhh I see. So this white oak burl I have drying out is a great reason to buy a new plane. I'll start working at my wife now!

Yup. It compresses the curl helping keep it in place infront of the cut, rather then it fracturing infront of the cut causing tearout.

that is what makes the sport so great! there are so many different ways of doing it. and everyone has the way that works best for them.

I have a few thicker irons in a few of my planes. they have their upsides and their down sides, but they sure do feel good.

Newer better steels too.

The thing that sits on top of the iron and compresses the curl. Some call it a cap iron or top plate.

Lol. What is sand paper?

it's sand stuck on paper lol

Wow! I am thankful for where I live. I pass them up all the time for 4-10$

Where are you at? There are a few places around the world where that is the case.

Two months ago I got a No. 4 Handyman and a Stanley 110 for $15 (for the pair) at an estate sale. They both need cleaning up, and the 110 has a chipped blade, but...$15.

thanks! that means a lot!

LOL sounds good to me!

LOL yup. kind of sad!

LOL yup