Thanks for checking in. Yeah, if you hear that at work, it’s probably time to get the resume updated 🤨

Some guy used to put on a suit to operate an elevator. For every one of those jobs lost, 10 were created by the modern elevator.

It’s an amazing feeling…fresh cut lawn happening while you get other things done.

Thank you for taking the time to leave a nice comment. You’re welcome, I hope you enjoy your bot.

Thanks Morte, it turned into quite a long video. I’m loving the mower so far but I don’t think the mass market would put up with the setup I went through. Hopefully my experience can help other early adopters understand setup and troubleshooting.

@@TheLawnEngineerI hate my Luba. It will not charge. Customer service is not responding. Has never moved more than 30 feet. Since they don’t respond, I will reverse the credit charge Friday if they haven’t responded. Terrible product, terrible customer support.

I agree, I’ve come to the same conclusion now. I’m going to move out away from the house but I would rather not map everything again 🤨

@@TheLawnEngineer You can move the base without remapping... You only have to remap if you move the RTK unit

@@Crazypostman thanks for the confirmation. I was moving both so much at the start I seemed to be remapping constantly 🤣

Any source for 900 MHz link between luba and RTK ? From what I read it uses wifi 2,4 Ghz signal, thus only 120m range. Husqvarna on the other hand with their Epos (gps based) uses 900 MHz, thus they have much better range, around 450m. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJ2ljMKVt7DWkZc.html 6:02

I agree, I’m loving it. The time savings are great!!!👍

Thanks for checking in, it’s great to have another engineer’s opinion. It took me a bit to notice why the no go zones were trimmed so poorly. You nailed it, no border passes are taken on the no-go zones so it does seem like a fairly easy software fix.

This has been updated. You can now do perimeter Laps around Nogo zones

Glad it was helpful! It is definitely not a plug and play device.

Thanks for the sub and taking the time to check-in. I'm loving the robot but 3 acres is likely too much for one of these.

Thank you!

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for taking the time to check in 👍

Glad it was helpful!

You’re welcome, I’m glad you found some value in this video. Thanks for leaving a comment.

You are so welcome! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I’m loving the time savings.

Awesome, thanks for checking in. Let me know the Luba works for you. The EV is still working great for our family. We have an upcoming road trip to Yellowstone that I hope to document.

I’m glad you found it helpful 👍. I am loving not having to mow my lawn but it being freshly cut every couple of days. I don’t know how I found time to ride around the mower before.

Glad you liked it! Thanks for leaving a nice comment 👍

Your welcome. Yes, that sounds like a good idea to mount on a chimney.

I really didn’t like the idea of having the map the grass. I am curious to know how this omniwheels work but I’m pretty sure I need the off-road tires for my slopes.

Glad it was helpful!

Yes, I think you have come to the right conclusion. I am making it work but they should only get better in the future.

Great information, thanks for taking the time to share. Also, I’m glad that you found value in my video. Based on the information you have provided and I have gathered, the best place for the RTK is likely at the center of my house. I’ll have to think about how to make that happen.

@@TheLawnEngineer Thx ! Yea, the Mammotion User Manual, pg 16 of their current edition, addresses the "Line of Sight" issue between the Mower & Ref Antenna, but there is a slight disclaimer at the end saying, " . . . as long as the transmission path is not fully obstructed". I've got a similar situation in that the Lawn wraps around the House/Garage entirely w/ tall Trees along one border, meaning no matter where I place the Ref Antenna, there will be structural interference in some area. I think it's a compromise between the height you can mount the Ref Antenna and how much and what kind of material is preventing direct Line of Sight between the two (Wood, Metal siding, R/V's, Tree density etc.) Some Reviewers are having Positioning Errors w/ good RTK Ant locations and the Luba in a "Clear Sky" area but it's just over 200ft away from the Antenna and there are one or more Trees between the two. I figured that if the Positioning Errors under the Antenna were an ongoing issue for your particular setup, that you'd try that upper Roof line for the RTK at some point. I just purchased the Mod 3000 on this last Black Friday sale from that Jungle website and haven't mowed a single blade of grass yet due to weather. Mammotion offered the same price with "extras" tossed into the deal but the Return policy w/ the Jungle website seemed easier to deal w/ should I need to. They also offered their "no questions asked" Extended Warranty in 1 - 3 yr increments so I spent part of the sale price savings on a Warranty extension. Again, Nice Job on the Review of this Enigmatic little Robot ! Thx.

Great point. I really appreciate the adjustability.

Glad you liked it!

That is a good idea, but I like to move the trampoline so the grass doesn’t die under the legs. Anyway, a robot with vision will automatically adapt and move around the trampoline, video coming very soon.

I just set it up for this season. Update video coming soon 👍

@@TheLawnEngineer Are you still using the Luba 1 or did you move to the Luba 2?

I am still using the Luba 1. Update video here: Luba 5000 AWD 2nd Year Setup - Real World Use - Improvements Made kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndR0o7NqvL7Zcmw.html I also just got a SunSeeker with vision, video coming soon.

Awesome, thank you!

Glad it was helpful. It does not skip a beat with the mature trees that don’t have any branches down low. It does lose signal when it goes under brushy areas at spots on the edge of the lawn. When it loses signal, it pauses in place until it’s regained and then continues. I have had three occasions where it hasn’t regained signal and paused so long the battery died. In those cases I had to carry it back to the charging station but then life was good again. I could improve those areas by cutting back brush and using the pole saw to take off lower branches.

I’m wonder the same thing. All of the big brands are now behind. Hopefully they can make up some ground and come up with some compelling products. String trimmers mounted on the sides to clean up the edges?

@@TheLawnEngineer I've watched several of your videos now....getting very close to pulling the trigger on the Luba 2. Just a little unsure about the Yuka, so thinking the Luba 2 3000H might be the best choice for me. I may purchase from Amazon, so it if doesn't work for me, easy to return. I walked around my yard with a GPS app on my Android, and even though I have plenty of trees, didn't seem to impact GPS signal. I've downloaded the Mammotion app, but haven't created an account yet. It would be great if they built in a "checker" into their app......"Before installing, download our app and walk around your property and we'll tell you how well Luba is likely to work". That would a be a great idea.

I think the "cat flap" would work well. You have two options with obstacle avoidance with the Luba, using the ultrasonic sensors and not. In this case you would have to turn off the ultrasonic sensors. The front bumper is still active but takes a pretty good bump to activate it. I would think it could pass through a flap without activating the front bumper sensor. The next issue is making the Luba drive from front to back yards on the same path so it passes through the flap. To do this, you would make two zones and then define the connection between the two by the driving the luba from on yard to the other thru the flap.

@@TheLawnEngineer thanks for the excellent reply. Legend!

It does get a bit complicated. I expect the dealer network and installation support to ramp up quickly; however, a large portion of the population is very resistant to change so we will see.

I hear you, I would cancel too. I would expect the bigger companies have products in the pipeline.

Thanks for checking in. Yes, a battery failure would be a death blow for the Luba. If that happens to me, I will make a video attempting a diy replacement. I’m not sure if it will be successful but I will try.

Yes, RTK must be powered. A separate power supply and 10m cable was provided. I plugged into an outlet at ground level and ran the cable along siding trim to the RTK.

Thanks for the nice comment. I have just over 3 acres and the lawn is a little less than 1. I saw the Luba 10000 with the vision system. It looks like a good machine but they aren’t giving it away 🫣.

It is a software restriction in the acreage you can map. It likely has something to do with the memory capabilities for all the gps data. On a side note, I think it would be difficult for one Luba to keep up with that size lawn. If you lose a few days due to rain in peak growing season, the grass can get out of control. I think your best option is to run two robots.

Thank you. Yes, I think pine cones would mess with the Luba, you would have to clear away first.

That’s the goal, more time for golf ⛳️ 😎

I think it will run them over fine but will not mulch well. I’m expecting my backpack blower to get a heavy workload this fall…but then again it does every year. I have more leaves than my lawn tractor could handle.

@@TheLawnEngineer ok thanks. Even though I cut my leaves into fine pieces, I have to dump them in the wooded part of my property…far too much to mulch. Without reducing the volume, it would become an enormous unsightly pile. I will be on the lookout for your workflow in this regard. If there is a good solution here, a robot could be an option for me in future.

The perimeter is set from the side of the robot. The biggest secret is likely to design/change your landscape to allow you to drive the Luba over the edge without it getting stuck or damaged. This would involve setting edgers and driveway/roadway at the same elevation was the grass. The robot follows the path (including direction) that was programmed when setting up the mow areas.

Thanks for watching and checking in. I just finished filming an update video on the Luba. To my knowledge, there is no service or repair parts available. If this is a concern, do not buy it. I bought it from Amazon and it shipped directly from Hong Kong, there is no dealer to contact. The RTK antenna does need power. It can be plugged into the charging station or a separate power supply. The separate power supply was included in the main box and that is what I used to power the RTK.

Oh no, I feel your pain…remapping is annoying. It is pretty sweet when you get to enjoy a robot cutting your grass, good luck

@@TheLawnEngineer yes. Right now it rains so I’m waiting for fair weather to remap for the 9 th time. It’s 1 km. Leaving this time 6” to 1’ on the sides since Luba tends to go further then usual. I love the cutting but hated the lost of signals and the mapping. Got the 5000. I put the charging station right beneath the RTK that is 25 feet higher up where the roof is the highest. When I send it back to the charging station it turns on it self 360 degrees going nowhere. Don’t understand. Do you have an idea?

@@padremm 95% of the positioning is good but I do have two locations where the border passes messes up. 1. in the area below the RTK 2. On the side of the house opposite the RTK. I have modified these boundaries and they are perfect for a mow and then seem to drift. If you figure it out, let me know.

@@TheLawnEngineer I’ll try it know. We’ll let you know.

Thanks for checking in

You're welcome. Yes, it will be very interesting to see how this part of the lawn care market evolves over the coming years. I saw that John Deere announced a partnership with EGO, it's obvious that gas mowers are on their last iteration but will robot/gps mowers be mass adopted? Time will tell, thanks for checking in.

Great questions. The size of the clippings is exactly what is cut off during the mow job. There is no recutting or mulching of the grass. The good news is that you control this by how often you have the bot cut. There is some grass buildup on the deck after cutting wet grass but it has not created any problem for me. Also, it typically falls off when it dries out. Yes you can manually drive the mower and then have it start cutting. You will have to define different zones during setup but that isn’t difficult.

@@TheLawnEngineer Thank you so much, very helpful

It will not stay off soil. You have to drive it around with your phone the first time to set the boundaries.

I know this one is long…some like it others want brief. I’ll work on providing both options.

Both. Standard is to connect to the charging base. Mine also came with the additional power source to mount it remotely. The MAMMOTION website lists the additional power source as a free gift if you order now…I ordered from Amazon and it still came with the additional power source.

@@TheLawnEngineer did you ever encounter problem on blocked blades on the robot?

@@ricsuk yes I got an overload error on one of the blades. I took a look and there was a stick stuck above one of the cutting discs. I removed the stick resumes and life was good.

It has been good for this season, but that is a very real risk. Hopefully when that happens, other US brands will have similar options. I would attempt a battery replacement but hopefully I won't have to.

@@TheLawnEngineer I think the other way to look at the calculus is that the Luba will extend the life of your riding mower to essentially forever so that you'll never have to replace it again. If you amortize it like that, it's almost like getting a used riding mower for free.

@@sorka95032yes that is a good way to look at it.

I had not tried to use any customer service. However, based on what others have said; do not order if you are expected support after the sale. Wait until some bigger brands catch up. These units are built and shipped directly from Hong Kong.

I have more videos on the Luba on this playlist: Lawn/landscape kzfaq.info/sun/PLbrthXtEfbVi0WSSNBeuXr5oPoywbPtw1 I love pretty far north so I’m just getting it out for the season this weekend. I am happy with it but the addition of the vision system on Luba 2 is interesting. I should have another update video on the Luba soon👍

I’ve tried an app for iOS. I’ve had as few as 6 satellites and as many as 14, seems to depend on the time of day. Luba is still working well for me.

Yes, you need wi-fi

That is a common complaint, customer service doesn't exist for Mammotion.

There is “key” that must be inserted in the back of the mower, is that in place?

That would help until they get use to it 🙃. I’ve noticed a few evening encounters and the deer didn’t love Luba but they didn’t run off either. I think we need something motion activated…maybe some Halloween decorations.

I completely agree, I’m looking forward to see what advances are made in the next few years.

I ran the robot several times a week so the grass clippings are quite small and break down in the lawn (just like mulching).

@@TheLawnEngineer It will begin to accumulate and turn yellow over time.

No need, I have a shovel at the end of each arm 🤣

You don’t have to but it speeds things up a bit. Instead of the mower discovering it during mowing, the gps path is changed to go around from the start.

@@TheLawnEngineer do you have to walk it every time?

Do you set it the first time. Including the zones etc and then it goes on its own from then onwards? I know you have to start it but what do you expect after the startup.

@@charmainemorales3799 no, only the first time. You walk it around the boarders of the lawn so it creates a map of the area to be cut.

@@charmainemorales3799 you have summarized the process correctly

Agreed, I would not buy one and assume that you will get customer service. I’m excited to see the advances that are made in the next few years across bigger brands.

This is a 2023 model Luba 5000 AWD. Mammotion added the vision system to the 2024 model and updated the name to Luba 2.

That’s a very reasonable stance. I am excited to see what comes out in the next few years.

I'm going through the leaves now. I'm opting to use the backpack blower to remove them from the lawn, we will see if my opinion changes after two months of leaf duty.

KZfaq didn’t exist in the early 2000’s 🤣

That sounds incredibly frustrating. I’m sure the customer service is not good. Probably have to return and try again or just go with a different brand.

It is slow but I’ve changed some settings to speed up significantly. I have 5 zones now and each one takes 1.5 to 2 hrs.

It does lay some of the grass down because there is no airflow to lift the grass for cutting. It still cut decent and you can cross cut to clean things up. Anyway, these are the worst robot mowers we are going to have…only going to get better.