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TWoW: Alayne (Reading & Commentary)

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David Lightbringer

David Lightbringer

3 жыл бұрын

NOTE: I chopped off the first 2 min in post-production because the sound didn't work.
We're reading all of the early-release Winds of Winter chapters, but with commentary and discussion mixed in. 'Alayne' has Sansa taking a major growth leap and beginning to hatch her own plots, and from the looks of things Sansa's Winds arc will be getting good.
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@jaysheth1541
@jaysheth1541 3 жыл бұрын
I feel George has essentially become Prince Doran Martell in his Water Gardens playing out all possibilities in his Mind while Time passes by ....
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t argue with that
@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL
@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL 3 жыл бұрын
gout
@andrzejkopalnia
@andrzejkopalnia 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL Silence!
@andrzejkopalnia
@andrzejkopalnia 2 жыл бұрын
So much this!
@leviackerman1799
@leviackerman1799 2 жыл бұрын
And we're the Sand Snakes..LOL..who doesn't have patience..
@sershyguyofthemushrooms9880
@sershyguyofthemushrooms9880 3 жыл бұрын
Yes i think sansa will be a key to uniting westeros against the others she has met most of the key players of all the great houses
@mormontsraven4072
@mormontsraven4072 2 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger is using Alayne's beauty and grace, let's call it glamor, to "charm, entrance, bewitch" all the knights of the Vale, and gain control over them. Just like what Night's King did "He brought her back to the Nightfort and proclaimed her a queen and himself her king, and with strange sorceries he bound his Sworn Brothers to his will. " So this goes well with how Sansa is going to turn the tables on Littlefinger and beat him in his own plans. I wonder who is going to play the part of the Last Hero. Is Sansa going to have another suitor? She has had four, and none of them were good enough for her, and these Last Hero type guys tend to be nicer.
@kawaibakaneko
@kawaibakaneko 29 күн бұрын
Brienne will be the best hero, of all the people who sworn to protect Sansa, she is the only truth knight. If she manages to survive Lady Stoneheart...
@Runningdeering
@Runningdeering 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered if one of Petyr’s “loyal” men will favor Sansa enough to surprise him when she turns the table. My instinct says Lothor Brune, and personally I’d love to see him duel Lyn Corbray and earn that Valyrian sword.
@cloverazar5315
@cloverazar5315 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t he the dude Sansa compares to the Hound (whom I maintain she’s sweet on, given aaaalll that Beauty and the Beast imagery floating around for those two)? And it isn’t as though she doesn’t have leverage, even beyond the simple friendship they’ve developed, and his having saved her from Marillon - she can say, “when I’m the Stark in Winterfell, I can easily make you a landed lord… and Mya Stone your Lady Brune.” Womp womp, leverage even Baelish can’t top.
@justmhr7598
@justmhr7598 2 жыл бұрын
Sansa gaslighting sweet robin like a pro
@casey9439
@casey9439 3 жыл бұрын
In this chapter, George explicitly points out twice that eight is one more than seven... Robert wants eight knights because eight is more than seven. The wagon wheel has seven spokes after losing one of its eight. I doubt that's an accident.
@DoVisenya
@DoVisenya 3 жыл бұрын
So maybe it's also foreshadowing that eigth winged knights will be chosen, but soon one of them will die? *Crosses fingers* Harry the Heir, Harry the Heir...
@enta_nae_mere7590
@enta_nae_mere7590 3 жыл бұрын
Throughout various sevens are not so, there are really eight kingdoms in the seven and there are now 8 gods worshipped by the common folk with Rhollor in the Riverlands.
@achildofvalyria8915
@achildofvalyria8915 3 жыл бұрын
@@enta_nae_mere7590 I always counted 9 kingdoms with Crownlands being 9th.
@skin_e_guy
@skin_e_guy 3 жыл бұрын
no way harry the heir survives the series. It would be too easy.
@thelaughingstormbornagain1297
@thelaughingstormbornagain1297 3 жыл бұрын
IRL Littlefinger would easily become a politician/entrepreneur. He'd do stuff like get vital information say about a global pandemic on the rise then use that knowledge to game the stock market. He would behind the scenes reduce the effectiveness of the government while going to the people getting them worked up about how useless the government is. A few politicians IRL should be coming to mind. Littlefingers exist and they climb the ladder of chaos they create.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
The weirwood net is talking to me, I’m hearing a Pance? Pince? Bike Pants? Shrike Tense? If only the old gods weren’t so drunk, maybe I’d be able to understand what they’re saying…
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 7 ай бұрын
IRL (mordern) Politician isn’t profitable enough for guys like Petyr or Tywin and have too much responsibility and attention. They can just buy a collection of politicians for passing laws. Think more Koch brothers or the conspiracy target ?Soros? (or whatever his name is that is the Maga excuse for everything).
@DanKeshet
@DanKeshet 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know quite what it means but I've always been struck by how Lady Miranda lost her cloak, a symbol of getting married, on the way to a raised portcullis, a symbol that has been used for female sexuality when Daven says Gatehouse Amy "raises her portcullis for every knight" or something like that.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe George is trying to tell us she ain’t no maiden, haha. Good catch
@elizabarry4
@elizabarry4 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone has said this to you before, but that cough is really concerning! I know a lot of pot smokers think it is normal to cough all the time but I really hope nothing is wrong. Love your content and want you to be healthy and happy.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been slightly concerned as well. Some livestreams he’s coughing after every sentence. Don’t want him to lose that excellent reading voice or have other medical issues. A number of my relatives have lung-and-throat related issues so I guess I’m just vigilant about coughing stuff lol
@ItsRyanDunn
@ItsRyanDunn 3 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, but it could be a nervous tick. I have a buddy who has that issue, but, who knows. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsRyanDunn hope it is, it’s probably nothing but coughing too much is usually a warning sign for something
@trolledchaos6531
@trolledchaos6531 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao coughing IS normal for pot smokers. When you inhale smoke, it coats the inside of your throat and mixes with the saliva and mucus. Its not usually anything to worry about unless it’s painful or uncontrollable(of course everyone should get checked just to be sure)
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
@@trolledchaos6531 I think their point is that coughing all the time SHOULDNT be normal. If you’re doing something that causes you to be coughing quite strongly every five minutes you have an issue
@anshumanjhunjhunwala2695
@anshumanjhunjhunwala2695 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder who the Giant is that Sansa is prophecised to slay; Littlefinger seems to straightforward an answer, but then again, prophecy is a half-trained mule, key operative here being trained
@thelateescapist8266
@thelateescapist8266 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt Peter plans on harming Harry anytime soon. He's a crucial piece of Peter's plans for the Veil and the North. "Jon Arryn's bannermen will never love me, nor our silly shaking Robert, but they will love their Young Falcon... and when they gather for his wedding... every knight in the Vale will pledge his sword to win you back your birthright." If Littlefinger needs Harry to lead the Knights of the Vale to war, he won't risk harming him till the war's won and Sansa is lady of Winterfell. Keep in mind he secretly cuckolded Jon Arryn for years before eliminating him. He probably wouldn't mind doing the same to Harry. So if Sansa turns on Littlefinger soon enough after Winterfell is won, Harry may actually end up outliving Littlefinger.
@imnotagoodperson4446
@imnotagoodperson4446 3 жыл бұрын
I know that there’s a level of embarrassment that comes with mistakes. Personally, I love when LML has a human moment.
@Magicalnora
@Magicalnora 3 жыл бұрын
It was really adorkable
@jessdubbs176
@jessdubbs176 Жыл бұрын
Sansa has always been my favourite character! Great stream. Love it 😀👏
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sansa is starting to realise shes a woman and realise how women get by in her world. She’s starting to take Cersei’s advice and use her femininity and beauty to her own gain even if she’s only doing it subtlety and almost subconsciously at this point. She’s learning how to be a master manipulator and she has something Littlefinger and Varys dont have: a beautiful face and (in the future when she’s no longer in hiding) a highborn womb, both of which will be incredibly influential in the future power battle. Sansa is going to be one of if not the most eligible bachelorette besides maybe Dany and Arianne in the whole of Westeros and if she learns from Littlefinger and Cersei she’ll be a power house, no magical trees or dragons needed. She’ll be an entirely human driven badass. She’s the Elizabeth of York, the Isabella of France, the Elenor of Aquitaine. She’ll take a lot of people by surprise and/or their bollocks in the future
@juancarlosbeltran2856
@juancarlosbeltran2856 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, yes. Love me some Sansa talk and analysis. So excited for the “Sansa’s magic” video
@DanKeshet
@DanKeshet 3 жыл бұрын
The bit about old Oswell arriving last night from Gulltown on a lathered horse is a nice nod to what else is going on in the rest of Westeros. Oswell's sons, of course, are currently in a very bad way in King's Landing.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Good call
@jonhauge-evaldsson783
@jonhauge-evaldsson783 2 жыл бұрын
No one can get near Sweet Robin with a blade. Nice Mad King vibes!
@bensonrussell7232
@bensonrussell7232 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished a re read of the first 5 books and this time through Sansa's chapters were my favorite even more so after she got to the vale. The politics reveal so much info if you take the time to see it.
@jackhill3273
@jackhill3273 2 жыл бұрын
Sansa/Alayne in The Vale are amazing chapters, yes the Politics there are so great, as is Littlefinger!
@isabellamego5321
@isabellamego5321 3 жыл бұрын
Me everytime sansa is with petyr: don't leave ger with THE CREEP!
@Varatil
@Varatil Жыл бұрын
1:22:10 An Eyrie made of sugar = an eerie Maid of sugar God I love a good George pun. The sweet maiden is becoming eerie, different and stranger.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
Oh cool I love that
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Lot’s wife, a pillar of salt
@Varatil
@Varatil Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Ooh yes that's a good one
@mormontsraven4072
@mormontsraven4072 2 жыл бұрын
The foreshadowing for Sansa marrying a Targ is mainly based off of the champions in Lady Ashford's Tourney in the Hedge Knight. There were five champions: a Baratheon, a Tyrell, a Lannister, a Hardyng and finally Valarr Targaryen. Since Sansa has had a similar line of suitors, the idea is that her final suitor would be a Targaryen. I am tearing up just thinking of Prince Baelor, can't believe I finally reached the end of this crazy stream, also drunk. That is how this content should be consumed lol.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I get that, if only because Hardyng is so obscure and random. The other houses could be coincidence but the pattern overall, I get it. I could say a fAegon / Sansa alliance being played with.
@lrlavalais2068
@lrlavalais2068 8 ай бұрын
​@@DavidLightbringerWhy noone sees Sansa with Jon Snow?
@MusicalCircus
@MusicalCircus 10 ай бұрын
Game of thrones basically saved me.. very much changed my life as well. This community and everyone in it is also very amazing. I want him to finish the books, but I also don’t ever want this to be over
@jaysheth1541
@jaysheth1541 3 жыл бұрын
I love Petyr Baelish. He is very playful and so his plans are flexible. He definitely has got a nimble mind. Just that, he has a tendency to play dangerous games to express his playfulness. 😊✨🌼💖
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
If by playfulness you mean sociopathic manipulation and murder plots, maybe?
@ackidack
@ackidack 2 жыл бұрын
Sansa is 13 and he is romantically Interested in her and kisses her without her consent
@owleyes07
@owleyes07 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you professor David Lightbringer ❤️ for this hot and drunk stream 😂. So much fun and your entrance was priceless. See you in Mercy chapter stream.
@user-ln7jw2qn6h
@user-ln7jw2qn6h 3 жыл бұрын
Quick-witted Quentyn quivers quietly before the Queen's questionable crooked quintain
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brandon
@enta_nae_mere7590
@enta_nae_mere7590 3 жыл бұрын
Wait..... Are Sweet Robins shaking fits just withdrawal???
@bensonrussell7232
@bensonrussell7232 3 жыл бұрын
Lol from his mothers teets.
@tawk_studios
@tawk_studios 3 жыл бұрын
It does appear that Mother's heron habit may have trickled down. Unless his seizures are some sort of Hodoresque events.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely seems like it. More evidence of Lysa’s evil. Intentionally or not, she was going to keep her son dependent on her all his life
@smecclesshwifty8548
@smecclesshwifty8548 Жыл бұрын
On the re-watch a year after this was posted. I channelled grey waste Tim, just said "mute.....mute......" Like you could hear me!? Haha. Great start
@moiraferreira
@moiraferreira 2 жыл бұрын
What if Dany meet little Robin on top of the Earie? Convince him to join forses with the North, which his mother never would have done.
@mormontsraven4072
@mormontsraven4072 2 жыл бұрын
GRRM is so dirty, people eating a large lemon cake in the shape of the Giant's Lance :D
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
All that sticky sugar on their lips, lol
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 3 жыл бұрын
Petyr wants Stannis' starving armies, he already has money.
@declanmiles2985
@declanmiles2985 3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine the shaking sickness that plagues Robin is a type of withdrawal from sweetmilk?
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 7 ай бұрын
Yep. It puts a new light on the people who want to give it to him constantly.
@lavender__luna
@lavender__luna 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to the replay, smoking a strain called Angela, and tending to my veggie garden. Loving this stream!!! Thank you so much for all that you do, LML 💜💜💜🌲🌲🌲💨💨💨
@mikeykrizzles7830
@mikeykrizzles7830 3 жыл бұрын
Doing a rewatch as I was too tired to stay up last night... I love how The Dragon is like " make raunchy jokes chat .. Just make them tasteful we r civil afterall" bhahaha
@lucashunt4172
@lucashunt4172 Жыл бұрын
Another great stream. Thank you LML and the amazing community in the chat. Even on a year after rewatch.
@DanKeshet
@DanKeshet 3 жыл бұрын
Bran rallying the Stark siblings together would 1) make "the Lone Wolf dies and the pack survives" important, and 2) reminds me a lot of Midnight's Children.
@yeyejoijoi
@yeyejoijoi 3 жыл бұрын
Sansa is obviously developing some political savvy but it seems a bit of a stretch to say that there is a 'dark edge' to her supporting Litttlefinger's plans when she literally has NO alternative atm. What could she possibly do at this point except go along with it? Hopefully the Royces are secretly plotting against LF and so maybe Miranda et al will help her out when the time comes to turn on him. I agree about the 'I'lll be all the spice you need' comment being OOC for Sansa-- BUT at the same time, it is kind of the perfect clumsy attempt at flirting for her! She has no clue how to flirt but LF has told her she has to, so she goes for it with the tackiest line lol. At least Harry sees that she's clever from the rest of it and appreciates that part of her. Maybe he won't be that bad? Maybe he'll end up helping her against LF? (wishful thinking probably, but I'm just dreaming that she'll have a quick break from terrible partners sometime soon!! But at least she was married to Tyrion before he went Dark!Tyrion thank the gods)
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
I think you’re taking agency from Sansa here. People always have a choice. She’s making many choices, and there is absolutely a dark edge to Sansa trying to turn Sweetrobin away from the plot to kill and replace him, a plot which benefits Sansa.
@yeyejoijoi
@yeyejoijoi 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Sansa's agency is exactly what I am interested in. If she wants to survive she has limited options, that's all I'm trying to say. But maybe I am misinterpreting what you mean by "dark edge" bc steering Sweetrobin away from a murder plot sounds pretty not-dark (actually good and kind?) especially if his death might benefit her. Maybe that was a typo, but if you mean she is furthering the murder plot, I am confused bc she doesn't even seem to be aware of it. She seems to think Sweetrobin will probably young die because he's sickly, but in this very chapter she thinks about how he might live long enough to wed (and his wife will admire his hair). Maybe I am just missing something. But I don't see Sansa dark-edge scheming w LF, I see her going along with things for now, hoping to survive and not wanting to blow her cover-story until she has more options, allies, etc. (sorry for this long response, I know it can seem hostile to see big blocks of text but I just feel like we have had a misunderstanding so trying to clarify! :) but communicating w words is hard!)
@Cultural_chronicles411
@Cultural_chronicles411 Жыл бұрын
LOVED this analysis of Sansa, she's always been a favorite, because I can relate to her experience (from pawn to player as you mentioned) I feel that what George is giving us Is the chance to really feel what the characters are feeling by making his characters so beautifully flawed, just like real people, like the people we know and love. We are so invested in Rob for example, knowing his history, knowing what it means to truly passionately love someone consequences be damned. All of that love and potential butchered like so much cattle because they were winning because they were good, honorable and lucky. The injustice of the red wedding had me crying and angry for a couple of weeks after reading. Lol. I can imagine George felt the same way! You can do this GRRM! Do you guys ever wonder if he's struggling with grief knowing that after all the decades, his story will end? His beloved story he has so carefully crafted his entire life's work? We love you you George hang in there brother!!!!
@tentaclepawn1548
@tentaclepawn1548 3 жыл бұрын
Ah man I thought this was happening tonight! Oh well, catching it on the rewatch. PRAISE GARTH
@ferniek5000
@ferniek5000 3 жыл бұрын
The window open and Papers on the floor in Peter's room puts me in mind of Varys and his little birds.
@robadamson1
@robadamson1 3 жыл бұрын
Shadrich...mad mouse... mouse with wings... batman! I think he was a little bird at some point.
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 3 жыл бұрын
Robin... A little bird tells him.
@Seb1066_
@Seb1066_ 3 жыл бұрын
GMT will now always be Giant Mountain Time to me. Great stuff as per LML. Your content is consistently of the highest quality 👍
@Birdbrainz420
@Birdbrainz420 3 ай бұрын
Incredible stream thank you!
@jamesrobertsiv
@jamesrobertsiv 2 жыл бұрын
When Sansa's dire wolf is killed she's cut off from developing magical power in the same way as the other Stark children. She grows as a political force.
@matiasalbertososacoronel7159
@matiasalbertososacoronel7159 3 жыл бұрын
There is a theory that says that the weirdwood hivemind wants to possess sweet robin since he sits on a weirdwood throne.
@amynurss1375
@amynurss1375 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to your readings all day.
@tawk_studios
@tawk_studios 3 жыл бұрын
Sansa is giving serious Little Finger vibes as she works Sweet Robin.
@zhenyamugisa9423
@zhenyamugisa9423 3 жыл бұрын
I believe her direwolf being killed symbolises that though she is a stark, under Peter's tutelage she will become a MASTER manipulator, she will beguile everyone around her while she manipulating her way to power, maybe not as overt and arrogant as Cersei but certainly like Melissandre
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 7 ай бұрын
@@zhenyamugisa9423 she doesn’t look like a Stark. “Little Bird” “Mockingbird “ Petyr’s her biological father not Ned. Ned barely made it back from Dorne in time to be the father, maybe not in time to be the father.
@zhenyamugisa9423
@zhenyamugisa9423 7 ай бұрын
@@mistermaestersirthomas9164 Would be a cool reveal by George.M, but I doubt with Petyr kissing her ,it is uncomfortable to have a father with Targaryen tendencies ..let's put it that way. I rather they reveal Catelyn is not her mother, that her mother was indeed the love of Baelish's life and Ned forced Catelyn to accept her as hers(not too different from Snow's scenario) yes then maybe Petyr's attraction to her is well founded.
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 7 ай бұрын
@@zhenyamugisa9423 the “unkiss” with Sandor shows Sansa perspective is misremembering/interpreting men’s actions/motives. From Petyr’s perspective it was a paternal kiss, not romantic at all. It’s a (Euro) Bravosi thing.
@zhenyamugisa9423
@zhenyamugisa9423 7 ай бұрын
@@mistermaestersirthomas9164 I don't actually care if Baelish harbours some feelings for Sansa, he could be playing match maker just to be seen as a true benefactor ,but has no plans to actually marry her off.This is Baelish, but I like Sansa and his dynamic so I don't mind. As for how paternal the kiss was we can only feel in the blanks, it was certainly short but if I remember correctly adding detail of how Sansa remembered his breath smelling of nutmeg may be a hint that George is teasing a good impression made on her so who knows where this goes?
@serdavezilla6494
@serdavezilla6494 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a Wake N Bake on the porch with some great LML content👍 Praise Garth 🙌
@imnotagoodperson4446
@imnotagoodperson4446 3 жыл бұрын
Praise Garth!
@MrCatsJvk
@MrCatsJvk 3 жыл бұрын
Hes a Vikings fan AND a DOOM fan? How could I not love this man.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
Like the americna football team?
@Varatil
@Varatil Жыл бұрын
I'm getting very interested in the idea of moons as symbols of pale imitators. This is based on looking for uses of the word "bright" in ACoK, when George theoretically was setting up the cloth/mummer's dragon to be a Brightflame. Fitting to that idea, it comes up a *lot* in relation to cloth, paint, and reflections. The cloth is obviously tied by the cloth dragon vision; THK repeatedly emphasizes the brightness of Aerion's painted flames, false flames that crack away under a true fight. The reflections part I'm more dubious on. At some point adjectives are just adjectives. But, it comes up a lot in relation to steel (like Bittersteel, steel-ing the throne) and water (like the dragonfly crossing the water at the end of THK, and the king across the water in TMK). The moon is also frequently described as bright in ACoK, and could fall under that reflection imagery, as it is merely a reflection of sunlight/the true flame. Like how the Brightflames/Blackfyres are pretender dragons, not truly fire made flesh. That's a long walk to say: What if Sweetrobin's bundle of WeirWalker symbolism, flight themes, and Moon imagery is setting him up as an equivalent imitation Bran? His Weirwood is dead, his dreams are drugged not magic, his home is in the Snow not the (hot) spring, his "flying" is falling while Bran's falling becomes "flying." Both sons of Tully, named for heroes of the past age. But Sweetrobin is the moon boy. And much like Moon Boy, his is a fool's retelling.
@BladesOfCrafting
@BladesOfCrafting 3 жыл бұрын
No i missed this 5 AM stream! Love you LML
@nadiasouthiere7908
@nadiasouthiere7908 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the stream LML! That was awesome 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🥇💐💪🏼🙋🏼‍♀️
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 3 жыл бұрын
Always funny to hear others try to pronounce British place names. "Green wich" instead of "gren-itch"
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that’s right I knew that I think
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
Not their fault the pronunciation doesn't match the phonetic spelling
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 3 жыл бұрын
If the Gods are good, LML will love me, too 🤍🏰❄️
@UniquelyStellar
@UniquelyStellar Жыл бұрын
rewatch... its coming soon i can FEEL it! Also, love that Egg popped in to narrate Sweet Robin's lines lol
@celly8713
@celly8713 3 жыл бұрын
Very on brand intro😂 sorry I couldn’t stay up for the stream I’ve had a very rough couple days but looking forward to this 🧡
@nothumbbowler1802
@nothumbbowler1802 2 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger is not going to kill sweetrobbin, in order to have Sansa marry Harry. Without Sweetrobbin, littlefinger has no power in the Vale. Why would he want to off Sweetrobbin. There is 1 thing Littlefinger wants more than anything: Sansa. He's already kissed her, and early tried to get Cersie to approve marrying him to Sansa. He may be plotting to use Harry, as means to raise an army to take Winterfell for Sansa. But Harry won't live to keep anything. Littlefinger is the ultimate revenge arc. The Starks took the women he loved from him. So he'll not only take Sansa (who he has projected his childhood love for Catelyn onto), but he'll take the Stark's place. He'll have his women, and Winterfell!
@ackidack
@ackidack 2 жыл бұрын
Well if he offs sweetrobin and Sansa is married to harry his "daughter" would be the lady.
@isabellamego5321
@isabellamego5321 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there! I am getting used to Sunday breakfast with mythical astronomy
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you are a lip reader, 1:49 ish is with sound 😰
@isabellamego5321
@isabellamego5321 3 жыл бұрын
It happens lol
@yeyejoijoi
@yeyejoijoi 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I thought my headphones were broken for a bit there! The timecode was helpful!
@mistermaestersirthomas9164
@mistermaestersirthomas9164 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeyejoijoi same problem, figured others would too.
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 6 ай бұрын
To be honest I think GRRM should have stuck with the time skip. It's really clear that a lot of the main characters on the younger side had their stories heavily structured to work with the time skip and without it, GRRM has created a mountain of extra work to crowbar these plotlines back into something that can work. - Arya's supposed to not only become a skilled assassins but grow to like 15 years old to it's a believable that by being skilled and quick she could do some serious damage in a 1v1 as well as do things behind the scenes. - Sansa is supposed to use her sexuality as a weapon to manipulate the men around her in order to protect herself from further abuse, taking notes from Cersei, Margarey and Baelish. - Rickon needs to not be 6 years old in order to do... anything significant really. - Sam has to study to earn his Maester's chain. It would be a great match for his innate intellect and drastically increase his agency when interacting with plotlines outside the Wall, and by conducting research to fight the Others. Now he simply can't forge his chain. That arc is scrapped. - Dany has no time to actually stabilise Slaver's Bay. In order to have any chance of merging her plotlines with those of mainland Westeros, she HAS to ditch Mereen fast. So... she shows up, frees all the slaves, then leaves their cities practically in ruins because she starts a war she doesn't have time to finish? Short of leaving the Unsullied behind there is NOTHING she can do to maintain her hold on Mereen if she sails for Westeros. And I simply don't see how she can bring the Dothraki to heel quickly in a way that isn't contrived. I'm pretty sure I could find even more storylines that are sabotaged by not doing the time skip. Not to mention a lot of other storylines are clearly built to stop for a while, or stabilise during the time skip. Jaime's brought the skirmishing and sieges in the Riverlands mostly to a close. Jon's body is probably going to be put in the ice cells, as has been foreshadowed, so his body will be preserved, just as his spirit is being preserved in Ghost. Again I could go on. To be honest I wouldn't blame him if he retconned a few pieces of DoD and released a new edition of it with some of the events rearranged to work with the time skip, and slowed down the oncoming Winter a bit to prevent Northern factions from being stuck in position by extreme snows once the time skip finishes. In my opinion GRRM intended for Stannis to remain at the Nightfort for the time skip before marching.
@playerkit
@playerkit 2 ай бұрын
The timeskip could still work if GRRM resolves the two imminent battles first. Timeskips keep their details sparse, so as you say, the proper preparation is important to facilitate that lack of detail not being incredibly unsatisfying. Other than those two plots, I think the others could be handwaved away relatively easily since it would serve the further plot so much. On the other hand, the timeskip that GRRM did towards the end of Fevre Dream felt kind of jarring. I get why it's there; vampires live a long time, humans don't. So it was a long time for the Captain, a relatively short time for the vampires. Now he's even less suited to an altercation with them than he used to be. Idk why, it just didn't feel the best to read, even though it makes sense thematically. All momentum was lost.
@stillsearching1284
@stillsearching1284 2 жыл бұрын
Harry will be abusive to Sansa, but Sweet Robin will get over his shakes and save her.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
That would be dope actually
@stillsearching1284
@stillsearching1284 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer I think Sweet Robin will kind of take the place of Theon from the show. He will want to help Sansa but feel scared. Now that Lysa is no longer influencing him, we see that Robin isn't such a bad a person.
@LamiNalchor
@LamiNalchor 3 жыл бұрын
She wasn't kind to Tyrion during the wedding. The Safran line is still befitting since she wasn't charming to him.
@rivermistfae
@rivermistfae Жыл бұрын
A mouse with wings.... well Ser Shadrich fly? Out the Moon Door mayhaps?
@farahgiovanna
@farahgiovanna Жыл бұрын
Beautiful rich content…helps to shed the taste of the last few seasons of the HBO show
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 3 жыл бұрын
Some very interesting developments in this one.
@jerrydrouillard
@jerrydrouillard Жыл бұрын
Interesting that Little Finger is called The Lord Protector. That was Oliver Cromwell’s title.
@Varatil
@Varatil Жыл бұрын
There's a *lot* of red faces this chapter, and focus on Sansa's face overall. We hear about Uther Shett's angry pimples and his face reddening, Harry's face goes red twice during the dance, after her run Sansa is fixated on whether her face is red. Then she gives a face of stone. It's like her face is going from blood to stone. That could have a few ties or parallels. Sansa herself is meant to have turned from blushing maid to Stone, Alayne. Her mother was specifically bloodied at the neck, and then became Stoneheart. I could see this tying to various alleged blood bathers: Dany, Danelle Lothston the original magic bat lady of the Trident, Serenei & Shiera (herself possibly the red-masked Quaithe). There's maaaaybe something in there with the Mountain? A mountain person, whose blood turns to black through his death and rebirth. Also possibly some tie there between SanSa and Sand Snakes? It would not be the former's first connection to venomous snakes, nor the latter's first connection to Gregor. (Aaand just as I was writing this I noticed it's another "red to black" thing as well. So maybe the connective tissue is still to come, via fAegon?)
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
You know when you isolate a sort of transformation theme like “red to black” or “bathing in blood,” it’s going to tie to several iterations of the concept. Like, the astronomy layer: the moon bathes in blood when it is exploded by the comet, and when the moon meteors fall into the water. Accordingly, moon maidens and moon objects always fall into water or blood. Dany and the Womb of the World is a great example. She bathes, bloody, while the moon’s reflection shatters and reforms on the water. So this is about moon maiden transformation, just like with Sansa becoming a Stone. That’s a moon maiden turning into a moon meteor stone! Or Nissa Nissa dying and going into the tree - the weirwood trees turn to stone and have moon symbolism. You know the green sea greenseer symbolism right? Entering the wwnet is often depicted as entering a body of water. Stoneheart in the Green Fork.
@Varatil
@Varatil Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Oh that's such excellent synthesis. I'm only just now getting acquainted with the green sea/green seer symbolism. As in, I watched the Mercy stream after this one, so literally yesterday lol. Pretty new to the channel, so still getting familiar with all the astronomy. Really appreciate how responsive you are! I've left many comments, sometimes multiples on the same video, and you've replied to damn near all of them :D Fully did not expect that. I know that degree of engagement is a lotta work on top of content creation. I hope I haven't made it feel tedious. DavidAffirmation!
@TGBGameplay
@TGBGameplay 2 жыл бұрын
Man…I never made the connection between sweet sleep and “Sweet Robin” lol!
@derrisreaditbefore
@derrisreaditbefore 3 жыл бұрын
LML, you're a legend.
@TheAstroWitchLux
@TheAstroWitchLux 3 жыл бұрын
The Eyrie might be conquered. No one can get in, so no one can get out. It could be conquered from within,by betrayal. Even the Targaryens didn't conquer it with firce. Rgaents negotiated with the mom woman to woman, while the little king flew her dragon once aroubd the Eyrie and landed as a Lord. Parallels to Lysa and Sweet robin there. And no bloodshed. So it could ebd up conquered from within or by dragin and without a big fight. Maybe by poison, negotiation or blackmail.
@swaggerdagger5168
@swaggerdagger5168 3 жыл бұрын
I love this chapter so fucking much. Vale Vibes
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 6 ай бұрын
I reckon at some point once they're married, Harry is going to try and put Sansa in her place by threatening to do something horrific to her. And then I reckon Sansa's brain is going to go full Cersei and say "Never again", and find some way to kill him in a similar way to Cersei killing Robert. And if their marriage is consummated, then even if Sansa takes Moon Tea to prevent a child she'll have what many perceive to be the rightful claim on the Vale, the North and possibly even the Riverlands if she leans into being a spitting image of Catelyn by revealing her true hair colour. It will be fitting if Young Griff manages to force Cersei out of King's Landing and on the way back to Casterly Rock she hears Sansa has resurfaced with two kingdoms behind her and a third on the way.
@MC-el2us
@MC-el2us 2 жыл бұрын
11 months time traveller. Sipping from the bottle. Nice.
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen 3 жыл бұрын
I will take back what is mine with fire and blood I will take it. 💥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥💥
@priceeverett9102
@priceeverett9102 4 ай бұрын
Man I just feel awful for Sweetrobin
@farahgiovanna
@farahgiovanna Жыл бұрын
I am watching on the rewatch in the morning, so just drinking cappuccino. I know terribly dull…..But you made me laugh the first minute 50 seconds😂
@comicdog5097
@comicdog5097 Жыл бұрын
AND THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVE!
@dejaunmk2230
@dejaunmk2230 3 жыл бұрын
Quintain tongue twister. How much quince could a quintain quaff. If a quintain could quaff quince
@wwcyfd22
@wwcyfd22 3 жыл бұрын
Quentyn quested for Qarl's quilted quintain
@lmntlbreakdown7202
@lmntlbreakdown7202 Жыл бұрын
the beginning cracked me up lol
@lyannastark3839
@lyannastark3839 2 жыл бұрын
As I was watching this episode for the first time (I didn't see all of them) I realized I am drinking a bit too - I have a sinus infection. It's brandy and God, I hate the taste of it - it's not the best brandy I had. But it's funny to see you do it at the same time.
@staytuned2L337
@staytuned2L337 3 жыл бұрын
Turns out LML late streams are some good times lol
@daladams
@daladams 2 жыл бұрын
David, this is totally unrelated to this video but i would literally flay my fingers if you started a Dark Tower based channel. The thought of you breaking down every word and symbol from Stephen King's Magnum Opus keeps me up at night lol..
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
You know I haven’t read that one, and generally haven’t like the SK that I have read. Just being honest. I know a lot of people like him, just not my tast
@derekhammond6975
@derekhammond6975 3 жыл бұрын
2 TWoW sample chapters b2b. Praise Garth! You're on fire!
@jackhill3273
@jackhill3273 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet Robin is definitely a Greenseer! I can see your take though...
@isabellamego5321
@isabellamego5321 3 жыл бұрын
Women's armor: courtesy Women's weapons: tears and vagina, special cersei combo
@leslieshE
@leslieshE 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree about Bran uniting the Starks
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
6:09 i feel like that's how Petyr B would say her name
@aryanak1234
@aryanak1234 2 жыл бұрын
1:39 Your an MF DOOM fan?? Me too!!! What’s your favourite song? Mine is either Potholderz or Fancy Clown, how about yours? P.S another 10/10 video, can’t wait to watch the rest of these
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Those are both excellent tracks. I think deep friend frenz is a jam I play on its own every once in a while. I love the beat from bicarbonate but it’s even better when Ghostface uses it on that one album
@aryanak1234
@aryanak1234 2 жыл бұрын
David Lightbringer I can’t believe I forgot to mention deep fried frenz, definitely high up there. I haven’t listened to much Ghostface but I’ll have to give it a go when I’m working next!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
i searched this comment out to follow up and say ONE BEER. That's the one. I couldn't think of it but the beat... the mic is a shotty nobody move nobody get hurt... that's the jam
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
also here's DOOMSTARKS, basically a playlist of Doom / Ghostface tracks. There's a bunch kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJObe7SVrcXPlIE.html
@aryanak1234
@aryanak1234 2 жыл бұрын
David Lightbringer one beer is also probably in my top 5 MF DOOM songs. I ll definitely check out that playlist!
@celly8713
@celly8713 3 жыл бұрын
Damn lucifermeansthotsbringer pullin down his pants on stream, I’m here for it
@hibiscus779
@hibiscus779 4 ай бұрын
Somehow ... Sansa is going to become Night Queen and puppet Euron
@stevehoward5582
@stevehoward5582 3 жыл бұрын
On the subject of Sweet Robin's dreams d'you think there's any chance he's getting the "glass candle treatment" from somewhere and someone?
@UAPReportingCenter
@UAPReportingCenter Жыл бұрын
We're lucky to get TWOW by 2025. Ridiculous already
@nateosborne7361
@nateosborne7361 2 жыл бұрын
At 3:15 on the East Coast watching a replay yeah
@ironreed2654
@ironreed2654 3 жыл бұрын
I just cant do the cake flavors, tool old. Gotta have that diesel taste.
@justmhr7598
@justmhr7598 2 жыл бұрын
If i could just get a release date for twow would be great
@strk350
@strk350 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna know what do you think about Rickon Stark's future plsssss 🐺🐺🐺
@bensonrussell7232
@bensonrussell7232 3 жыл бұрын
Almost forgot a thanks to you and a comment for the algorithm gods.
@Henbot
@Henbot 3 жыл бұрын
It does seem pretty plausible marriage. If Fagon isn’t Insta slain him then being married to Sansa ruling the vale and North and then Married to Arianna who would rule all the South is strong hold on Westeroes.
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 3 жыл бұрын
Now that's a sexy trio
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
Now THAT’S a power thruple, although I can’t see Arianne and Sansa ever getting along lol
@geoffwilliams6072
@geoffwilliams6072 Жыл бұрын
littlefinger food scheme giving me major 'price gouging on masks during covid' vibes
@lrlavalais2068
@lrlavalais2068 8 ай бұрын
Sansa is low key speaking of Jon Snow's hair. Thats probably the Targaryen she will marry. Not sure.
@annohalloran6020
@annohalloran6020 2 жыл бұрын
Without Tolkien I wouldn’t have survived Catholic school
@UniquelyStellar
@UniquelyStellar Жыл бұрын
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