I feel like Patchface is George's take on Lovecrafts unfortunate "primitive/mongrel/barbaric" characters who witness events beyond their understanding to be driven seemingly insane, without all the racist stuff.

It's Always summer under the sea might imply that the Weirwood Net being the antithesis to the Land of Always Winter

"It's always summer under the sea." If winter is metaphorically death, and summer is life, then always summer is eternal life. That's the green sea.

"There's enough evidence around the margins to know there are fish humanoids" haha for some reason my brain decided to hear this completely out of context. Thought I was listening to Alex Jones for a second

To become a priest and a prophet Aeron survived a shipwreck and was washed ashore. It seems the way to get shamanic wisdom in Ironborn culture.

Fun fact: Marillion is a character in the book at the Vale. (Named for the Silmarillion book). GRRM is a fan of the band Marillion, so I've heard, (as am I because they are amazing!) The bands symbol is a Jester, like Patchface. Just wanted to mention that. I agree that the show needed Patchface.

Thanks for the shout-out, good ser! Dad duty always coincides with the stream so I miss bits live but the babbies are on a steady diet of symbolism and mythical astronomy!

When you talked about crabs and symbolism, I remember that, here in Brasil, there are many urban myths about murderers disposing bodies in the mangrove and people usually call it "give to the crabs".

I honestly don't think Patchface's bit about the shadows has anything to do with Melisandre's shadow babies. I don't think the shadow babies are significant enough to draw Patchface's attention, or at least not as much attention as he gives to it. They come and go, they're fleeting, nothing more than tools for a single task that vanish forever once they're done. Same goes for the shadows in Mirri Maz Duur's tent, they only appear the one time. Patchface places so much emphasis on this song, singing it several times, I think the whole thing is entirely about the Others, the cold shadows, the white shadows, that are going to come down from the north and bring darkness on the world. Whereas Melisandre's shadows and Mirri Maz Duur's shadows are nothing but instruments of their makers/summoners, the Others are independent entities with minds of their own and they threaten an apocalypse. When it comes to things to prophesy over, I think this far outweighs the other candidates.

If Patchface's lips got blue after he drowned his face was a cool Trident's symbol, with the blue lips an the red and green tattoos. Maybe a cool way to represent the different magics are just one magic. Patches is perfect for that, he died in the water, has an almost greenseeing prophetic skill, and he is part of Stannis's court, who is a fire-god worshipper. All three magics in one guy

Patchface is definitely wired into some alternate wavelengths to be calling these events so accurately. The common tongue of Westeros isn’t his native language, so it’s possible that some of his phrasing is due to that...and being a bit mad after his death & resurrection.

Just a thought on smoke filled bubbles: in the green sea, people fall up like bubbles. The natural course of a bubble represents the natural course of life. The “smoke-filled” bubbles referred to in the text are lives tarnished by fires of the past, ending up far away from where they started but still filled with blackness. Cool tidbit: Catelyn sees frozen bubbles suspended in a thick pane window, a nod to her life essentially being stopped but not ended.

Thx for the April Fools present. Next year let’s have a Mushroom stream :)

The Arctic flower under the sea is a Blue Winter Rose.

I missed the live, but I'm grateful for insomnia right now :). Patchface is one of My favourite characters.. He's just so freaky!!

I'm late to this, but I think the description of a 'bird has scales for feathers' could be about Bloodraven, his personal herald animal is a white dragon. While he gets his nickname for his birthmark, due to being an albino and a bastard son of Aegon IV, he is a white dragon.

I've always imagined Patchface talking like Cicero from Skyrim, but with a deeper voice.

Under the sea, we leave comments for the algorithm. This I know. oh oh oh

You might be a Targaryen if you go to a family reunion to meet women.

I am, as 23 years old pal, living in a fun 80's fueled music moment since the beginning of 2019... No shame in being a 80's baby, older folk taught me to dance alone in the Goth club. There's body age and a younger soul, self love and real expression of the self... Happy late birthday!

You mentioned anemones are sub-arctic flowers, so, could Patches be talking about Lyanna? Because he, a non-westerosi person could be interpreting a blue winter rose as a different cold flower, right? Or is he seeing Jon Snow? He is associated to the blue winter rose

He is ASOIAF’s equivalent to LOTR’s Tom Bombadil and WOT’s Mordeth. (I love In-world Anomalies in fantasy books)

You get a like just for that title 😂

I will forever rue the knowledge that Martin wasn't able to make the chapter where Tyrion becomes the Shrouded Lord's fool happen. There was so much symbolic weight behind the role by that point in the story, and the seeds of foreshadowing were some of the best, but alas....

"Silver seaweed" could that refer to the "armour" the Other's wear?

40 is not old! Great video as always!

Yesss!!! Patchface is among my favourite characters in entire saga and this video is surely the best ever made on the subject. THANK YOU. Very entertaining, not to mention hilarious

Something about patchface is just so unsettling its like he can see beyond the veil of death and common knowledge his description as seemingly unstable and somewhat uncanny...i mean that line from mel i think where she says something akin to that creature is dangerous perfectly describes him the word creature really paints a picture too

I always laugh when I see his head gear and other get ups. Lol

Just going to watch the stream now. Your Halloween livestream in 2018 is one of my favorites of all your livestreams, legendary.

Patchface voice with the "oh oh oh's" were hilarious

Catching up on a few the last few days..... really entertaining one this, thanks mate!! 👍🏼 By the by, if an Australian person any older than about 45-50 calls you a Galah, they’re trying to insult you..... LMAO.

Have you ever investigated ties between characters and houses with merling connections and the real life myth of the fishy origin of the Merovingian dynasty?

This is great to re-watch even a year later!!

Praise Garth!!! Weed is now legal in New York!!!!!!!! About fucking time!!!!!

If its always summer under the sea, but the snow falls up and the rain is dry. That makes for one COLD, DARK, ENDLESS summer. So "under the sea" must be code the long night.

Finding this channel, I feel like I've just stumbled into a great vault of treasures. So fun to dive back into these books with a symbolic analysis. Busting out my copies to re-read. This is like all the best parts of English courses with none of the B.S. that killed my love of reading/ talking about books. For me, GRRM was a big part of rekindling my reading spirit, and I'm so happy to see what a bonfire he's stoked here.

The "everything is opposite under the sea" idea got me wondering about the seasons. If Planetos is like Earth, Westeros and Essos are presumably in the northern hemisphere, with its frozen North and the Summer Isles to the south. So when it's winter in the northern hemisphere, is it summer in the southern hemisphere on continents unexplored in our story, or does the whole planet experience one season at a time? Is the Land of Always Winter a misnomer? Will the Winds of Winter feature Others just chilling on the other side of the planet sipping margs in speedos?

Blue, Green, Black fires - Ice wights, Green seers, Shadow binders. The schools of magic?

Lyrics from my favorite Hendrix song. May be a stretch, but I get some patchface vibes. Hurrah I awake from yesterday Alive but the war is here to stay So my love catherina and me Decide to take our last walk Through the noise to the sea Not to die but to be re-born Away from a life so battered and torn Forever Oh say can you see its really such a mess Every inch of earth is a fighting nest Giant pencil and lip-stick tube shaped things Continue to rain and cause screaming pain And the arctic stains From silver blue to bloody red As our feet find the sand And the sea is strait ahead Strait ahead Well its too bad That our friends Cant be with us today Well thats too bad "The machine That we built Would never save us" Thats what they say (Thats why they aint coming with us today) And they also said "Its impossible for man To live and breath underwater Forever" was their main complaint (Yeah) And they also threw this in my face: They said Anyway You know good well It would be beyond the will of God And the grace of the King (Grace of the King yeah yeah) So my darling and I Make love in the sand To salute the last moment Ever on dry land Our machine has done its work Played its part well Without a scratch on our bodies And we bid it farewell Starfish and giant foams Greet us with a smile Before our heads go under We take a last look At the killing noise Of the out of style The out of style, out

That thumbnail 👌🏼

Great stream as always. Thanks for today.

also - one can't help but notice Red Bull can is very appropriate refreshment, what with chequered design on tin ;)

I think patchface is the stag man/horned man who will kill stannis, can't wait for that

Was to tired to watch this last night, m'lord- but been waiting for your Patchface vid for a long time :) Perfect way to chill on this Easter Friday vacation🤘💚 Praise Garth hard :D

Caught the end, look forward to watching it all tomorrow and catching the next stream!

I just wanna thank you again for making me a mod, it feels so great and you are awesome! So grateful to be a Lightbringer :)))

Great stream! Here is some blood for the roots

I'm consistently impressed by your content. While I don't always agree with your ideas outside of Ice and Fire, you are super dedicated and knowledgeable. Keep doing what you do. I enjoy it thoroughly

Wow, that age reveal is the most surprising revelation I've heard on this channel 😅 I thought you LmL was around my age and I was born in 93

Great..I worked for soundgarden for 8 years....u rule lml!!

Catelyn did not like the godswood at WF,the tree with its long slow thoughts...then eventually she becomes Lady STONE HEART,a creature that resembles a weirwood...she sensed her future in her first chapter maybe?

In my part of Mexico a Brujo is a spell carter, a possessor, mainly works with dark arts, there’s about an 80/20 between a bad brujo and a good one. A shaman/chaman/xaman, is more of a healer, deals more with herbs and natural elements. People often seek the aid of a chaman if they feel someone put a spell on them or are wishing bad things on them. Basically someone doing some type of brujería on you, you seek the aid of a chaman to scare away the bad spirits or vibes.

I’m currently reading about norse mythology and had a thought: Could the Valkyries be the inspiration for Val? Valkyrja means"chooser of the slain". The valkyries are handmaids of Odin. They are accompanied by ravens and pick the dead who wait at Valhalla to fight in the apocalypse, Ragnarök. Val is kind of a wildling warrior princess with ties to the old gods and the others.

Hi LML! I just want to say thanks 🙏🏻 for that Super Stream👌🏻👍👏🏻🙋🏼‍♀️🇨🇦

If Shereen is gonna die because of something to do with a dragon then that supports the theory that Stannis is gonna burn her to forge “Lightbringer” due to Melisandre’s insistence. Cuz if Melisandre resurrects Jon with Gillie’s baby that would be proof to Stannis that sacrificing kings blood works. So I can see a scenario where Melisandre urges Stannis that they don’t have anymore time due to The Others. And we know that the Azor Ahai prophecy has two interpretations. One with a sword and another with dragons. So if the sword is only a metaphor for a dragon then Shereen will die in the failed ritual. Cuz if Dany has instead sacrificed her in the pyre, that would actually be the forging of Lightbringer. And obviously this means stannis is a fake AA figure while his character is critic of duty and honour etc.

Sorry for missing the stream. Trying to get better about that, but I’m working nights right now. Although I think it’s a wonderful way to finish a 10 hour shift. Thank you very much, wouldn’t be able to get through a week without you!

You know something is extremely eery about Patchface when even Melisandre is uneasy around him

"Under the sea the mermen feast on starfish soup, and all the serving men are crabs." This could be a reference to House Manderly (Mermen) feasting on/betraying the Boltons (Starfish) with the assistance of Godric Borrell (The crab serving man).

Sneaky. Very sneaky. This one flew right under my nose.

Most magnetic personality ever XD

It's much too hot for a full Patchface cosplay costume, indeed

The point you made about the white and dark shadows staying and dancing off respectively works well with the Aemon quote that cold preserves and fire consumes. Idk do your thing with that lol

Praise Garth

Amazing stream man thanks for these bonus videos... haven't been able to watch your videos cuz I have exams but keep up the great work! Also you are like 2.5 times my age 😭

Nic cage's character in the wicker man is obviously a nissa nissa figure, being sacrificed for a mystic purpose..LML has officially invaded my brain..or my weirwood net if you will..you see?! Lol

I've always thought that when Bloodraven told Bran you will not walk, but you will fly, that was also foreshadowing for skinchanging a dragon in the future (although it also makes sense with ravens)

Do we know if Roy Dotrice consulted with George at all on his voices? Or could George be thinking, “no no, that’s not right at all.”?

The nennymoans, bear with me here. Nenny is a pet name for nenna, which is a Nordic variant of Nina, which is derived from the Assyrian nin meaning goddess or mistress, moans means moan. This is when combined with the silver sea weed gives a visualization of the moon goddess, most likely the ice moon. Is it a description of the goddess dying?

I don't believe for a second that you were born in 1980, that's an April Fools thing right? I thought you (and Quinn for that matter) were mid-20s like me lol. Love the character analysis nevertheless. Jorah video? Jorah video.

Darn, missed it. Ill catch up at work tonight. I can do that, really I can.

I am pleased to discover you late.. But yeah, Crawford skalds.

After the stream last night I watched The Bay. Also, you do realize that eventually you will have examined the spaces between the letters from every possible mythological angle, and then we're going to be down to speculating about what Bran's tax policy is going to be...

Can Patches have foreseen Lady Stoneheart destroying the Westerlings? He says at some point something about mermaids blowing seashells, so of course the Manderlys come at mind, but thanks to Alisa Patience now I think of Catelyn as a mermaid, I mean the redhead fish-woman is on the nose. So, if Catelyn is a mermaid, and the Westerling's symbol is a seashell (right?) Could it be that the Brotherhood will rescue Jane? Only to hang her or something? Patches is the perfect half-here half-there crazy/genius odd prophet, accidental shaman, he is Cassandra

Hope that jar gets filled. Sorry I can't help you there but this hits for you.

The shadows come to stay

I KNOW THIS IS AN OLDER TAPING BUT HAD A THOUGHT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COLORED FIRE UNDER THE SEA AND THE COLOR GREEN SHOULD BE WILDFIRE..IT BURNS EVEN IN THE WATER...YOU STATED THE GREEN STOOD FOR THE WEIRWOOD...I DISAGREE. WANTED TO SAY THANK U FOR ALL UR HARD WORK ON ALL OF UR VIDEOS..

Oh no Rhaegar! I hope David didn't lock you up this stream :((( Free him lightbringer!!

I'd be down for Narnia content from you!! Those books are relatively easy and quick reads too,

1:01:14 There's also the take that "we fall up" refers to drowning, and serves as the first hint that his under the sea talk refers to death and the afterlife. The next line about green sea also serves to highlight that. 1:12:50 I think that's referring to the battle of the blackwater & the wildfire but the blue could be others I suppose.

I always thought patchfaces bit about "the 3 colors of fire, under the sea", was describing the battle of blackwater bay. what do you think about that? wildfire is green, blue as in baratheon eye color?(this is the weakest one) and black as in blackwater bay is black and was on fire? or something about dany, aegon, and jon snow, or aegons 3 dragons or something or other. thanks for making these videos praise be to garth

My favorite has to be The Grudge, though it's difficult to choose, they have so many good songs.

Birds have scales could mean three eyed crow is a Targaryen

Squishinme' Noggin is a good name. Write that down George!

I rock with your show 🔥🔥

This video deserves more views than it has fr, so a wierwood sacrifice to the algorithm. The patchfaces participation in Winds has been in my mind lately.... good God I need to revisit Dance soon for a refresher 🤘🖤🐉🔥

I LOVE the look of the "jesters" from Tyrosh, or where ever patchface is from, in the World of Ice and Fire. Much cooler than the "painted all over" look in most illustrations of him

“If any of you have parents that act like me let me know... I doubt it” he says whilst wearing antlers on his head 😂🙌 Thanks for the deep dive! No pun intended!! 🌊 🌊

OMG! I have a galah too! georgie loves you

I've always loved H. And lateralus.

1980... am I doing my math right, you’re 41? Legitimately would have guessed like 26

Patchface and his arc is so lovercaftian. Event on death of Robert and Stannis parents are predetermined they charachter and destiny. Does someone predicted Baratheon role in fall of Targarayen dynasty? Is Patchface someone sinister than sad grotesque as Melisandre thinks? Epic Illiryan

Finally!

Is the Deep One water magic the same as the Rhoynar magic? (Also, what kind of magic do various characters such as Maz Dur or Maggie the Frog perform?)

Rewatch binge 🎉🎉🎉🎉

‘Eating starfish.’ Maybe referring to a fish in the river of time who astral projects? Aka Jojen-paste?

Ehh about the scaly birds, isn't it just like the memes : "for crabs, fish would seem to be flying as birds" ?

I had no idea you and quin where roomates. That expains so much lol

praise beesbury 🍯 🌲...who are descended from the gardener... praise garth !

there's fire under the sea, Patchface is Spongebob confirmed