Exactly

No he won't, you expect Prime Luka to average 40ppg? He does this crazy numbers because he had the privilege to do so.. MJ best statline was in 1987 but MJ's prime is during early 90's to mid. Don't get confused with the statline. Kobe's peak stats was 35ppg but his prime years is when he won MVP and 2 FMVP. Once Luka pair with a Superstar his statline will go down drastically.

@@blentoot9639 I would take luka over Harden all day. Because luka gets better at the playoffs.

@@johnsepulvedacruz6428 why he's not better against that worst version of Warriors team? LOL he almost got swept by Warriors and their 2nd best player is Wiggins LMAOOOO

@@blentoot9639 they literally won the championship. And if we talking about team the warriors are a better team than luka team. I'm going to use your logic luka best t3am was BRUNSON 🤣. and stop discrediting the wiggins he is a legit all star.

Right bro, Harden faced the 73-9 Warriors and took them to game 7 but Luka nearly got swept against this version of the Warriors 💀

@@sydguitar99 Harden faced the 73-9 warriors + Kevin Durant bro. People need to start appreciating prime Harden again

@@Sabe2k damn that’s actually crazy and I’m a Mavs fan.

Give Luka that 2018 Rockets team and he probably does beat the warriors

@@Sabe2k he had cp3 who was balling that series until he got hurt and great role players.. give that to Luka and he does just as good and probably better

Luka doesn’t do it nearly to the degree harden abused the rules. It was unwatchable to see harden play and then inevitably choke in the playoffs when he didn’t get to abuse the officiating. Harden wasn’t under appreciated his game had a LOT of gimmick to it and neither the players nor the media respect that shit

@@goatinaroun1944 Luka is literally only averaging .6 less free throws than Harden’s career high. The complaint was always that with all the free throws he’s extending the game to be too long? And what does playoff “choking” have to do with anything? Harden lost twice to the greatest team ever assembled and averaged 35 points on good shooting against the warriors in 2019. He averaged 30 against the Warriors in the playoffs. You are proving the point that Harden got shit on for his all time great player from 2015-2019 for no reason to the point that you’re bringing up playoff “choking”

@Goatin Aroun Bruh what are you talking about. Luka has all of Harden's Free Throw techniques. The head snap back, hooking people's arms, launching into defenders. He truly is the Prodigee

preach boi

Chubby Joel is crazy

@@jz8377 😂

And Harden's speed and balance when shooting a step back three or side step is way better and more dynamic and Harden has a better jumpshot because Luka's is clunky just like LeBron's and not to mention he shoots the same percentage at the Free Throw line as LeBron and has games where he goes 2/6 2/9 and 1/5 at the Free Throw line and Harden would never shoot 52% at the Free Throw line in a Playoff series like Luka did in his 2nd Playoff Appearance and that's what will forever make Harden better if Luka never wins a ring as a number 1 or an MVP.

@@liamm6208 I like Luka’s footwork and his midrange arsenal. But I feel Harden in his prime is just more exciting to watch especially around 2019. Dude was a machine & had such a smooth game. I’m surprised he didn’t average 40. Guy was shooting endless stepback 3s and getting in the paint at will. You can be more athletic, stronger or be taller than Harden & he still getting a shot over you. Everything was self created buckets. It’s a shame people didn’t appreciate Harden in his prime. Harden is the pioneer of the new style where it’s 1 ball handler creating the whole offense on their own with a lot of P&Rs and a lot of players are taking his style & he doesn’t get the credit for it. I wish Harden used the midrange more in his prime cause sometimes it got predictable & teams knew how to guard him at times just depending on the 3 and paint exclusively. But nonetheless this guy was great

He did not impact the game like curry. Nigga abused officiating for years and always choked in the playoffs when he couldn’t shoot 15 free throws a game

@@goatinaroun1944 Harden is second all time in made 3s in a season in 2019 behind Curry’s historic season of 2016. Harden already beat Reggie Miller in made 3s and is on pace to beat Ray Allen in made 3s. Harden impacted the 3 ball with the stepback 3 and Harden made the stepback 3 into a great weapon

Thank you!!! Harden is a all time great I don’t understand why people overlook the kd warriors no one was giving them problems besides the rockets and had it not been for them harden would’ve had 1 ring for sure

I dont care if you dont take this seriously, I will get this off my chest anyways. First off the fact that your using luka doncic's playoff history against him is laughable. He hasn't had a single active all-star teammate and is also the only reason the mavs are even relevant in the first place. Meanwhile even in your argument about harden taking games off the warriors, your argument is flawed. The rockets were up 3-2 and should have won that series...But if you watch basketball you would remember that james harden suddenly couldn't hit a 3 point shot to save his life. He went 2 of 13 from 3 in game 7. He sold his team that game and is a known playoff choker. He had a great supporting cast in players like chris paul, clint capela, ariza, eric gordon, pj tucker etc. James hardens worst team had more help than luka ever did. Harden has been surrounded by hall of famers and mvps his entire career and yet he has never won a ring and never will. He had one of the most talented teams ever in okc and they still shit the bed. Then he and his MVP buddy westbrook nearly got swept and got sent home AGAIN on the rockets against a real playoff performer like lebron. Then he went to the nets with KD and Kyrie and EVEN THEN his teammates didn't like him and now he is on the sixers. He is playing with YET ANOTHER mvp caliber player in joel embiid who is having one of the best statistical seasons we have ever seen from a center and yet he will find another way to choke again with his selfish style of basketball. James harden gets disrespected because he chucks up a bunch of shots and loses ball games just like carmello. He is one of the biggest underachievers in basketball relevant to his talent as a player and the teams he has been on. If you unironically think Luka isn't close or comparable to James Harden you might as well know nothing about basketball, He is playing out of his mind this season. James Harden was an all time great scorer but I would definitely take Luka as I can actually trust him to play well in a game 7 situation if he ever gets the help that James Harden had.

@@uptightpanic7058 Again, not even close. Type all you want, pal, but that's not how any of this works. Yeah, Luka has less help, but he has to face a far less talented team. Luka last year can't even get to a game 7 against these Warriors. How would he fare against the Durant Warriors? Rockets were up 3-2 in 2017-18 with Chris Paul not playing. Harden against invincible Durant Warriors fully healthy. It's amazing that they even got a lead. So go learn some math, darling. Doncic is just a less athletic and less efficient Harden. Harden wasn't in his prime at OKC, playing with Westbrook is always a liability because it's Westbrook. He was injured in Brooklyn and was injured last year in Philadelphia. Again, it's Prime Harden and it's not remotely close.

@@markarmage3776*Doncic bad bc he didnt beat a top 2 point guard of all time without any all star level teammates* nice argument man. Surely he should be able to beat a dynasty that was built on steph, klay, and draymond who also have other good players like wiggins and poole. Doncic averaged 32 ppg that series. Its not like he didn't play well. Nice diss man, thats definitely a bad loss. totally. "Doncic is just a less athletic and less efficient harden". "Again, it's Prime Harden and it's not remotely close". Nice contradictions man. And james harden is a more efficient player but oh wait luka is shooting over 50 percent from the field? harden has never been that efficient in over a decade, whoops... "so go learn some math, darling". So your points in the argument for harden being "way better" than someone carrying his team to the playoffs and averaging 34, 8, and 8 on 50 percent from the field is that hes more athletic, and that he got to game 7 in a series that he couldn't close. Nice argument man! Keep hating.

And he's the only guy to never get swept once by those Warriors teams to and he never got shut down by Draymond he always ripped Draymond's heart out and stopped on it everytime they went head to head and made Draymond try to give him an injury by giving him a red eye during the 2019 Playoffs and played through that red eye and still took that Warriors team to 6 games and averaged over 30 that series.

i meaaaan what wade got on him rings? that’s about it

@@yae7467 defense, finishing, leadership mid range shooting.

@@yae7467 Just say you didn't watch Wade and we can educate you. The condescending "lemme ask a question and semi answer it sarcastically" attitude you got is about as Shitty as Hardens defense compared to Wade's.

@@KxngAntTae okay yea defensively. but offensively wade isn’t near harden in all honesty not many players are better than harden offensively. harden is a better playmaker, scoring, ball handler, rebounder and more effective shooter. ask me that’s a better player and wade only has 200 more steals and played 2 more years than harden. i watched wade im not a kid 😂😂

@@yae746735 ppg in the finals carried the heat to a ring

Bro what world do you live in. Harden is a playmaker lmao not only could he iso, he could facilitate.😅

@@mycole1990 never said Harden couldn't pass. I just think Luka is better at it.

@@Zafri.Z when was Luka average double figures in assist?

@@Zafri.Z your a whole casual

@@blentoot9639 According to you Tyrese Haliburton is a better passer than Lebron, Jokic and Doncic 😂 Scoring more doesn’t mean you’re a better scorer, same for assists.

Exactly, they forgot that Harden holds the record for being the 2nd player for most threes in a season with 370+ three pointers.

It’s bad basketball and it consistently came back to bite him in the playoffs.

@@blentoot9639 people forget he folds in the playoffs. His productivity drops. While luka productivity goes up in the playoffs

@@Kosher93 him and Luka play the exact same brand of basketball. Super ball dominant/pick and roll & iso heavy. Usage is extremely similar. Luka may not have struggled yet in the playoffs like Harden did, but teams can defend him the exact same way and I’ll bet Luka won’t see real team/playoff success until he moves away from his current style of play. Not to mention, Harden was leading teams that were serious contenders in the West and likely would have at least one finals appearance if not continually coming up against one of the greatest teams ever in the playoffs (Dynasty GSW). The Mavs have never been on that level as a team with Luca at the helm, at least not yet.

@@cameronferguson4067 you’re talking about play style. I’m talking about efficiency. He’s a poor decision maker.

Because he had to master the free throws, only thing he could do 😂

@@HoopsWithAce stay mad nobody, luka the #1 freethrow merchant rn

@@Notcleverenough no hes not. He's third in the league in free throw attempts.

@@jackbryant9033 wrong. Hes 2nd in Attempts to Giannis, and 2nd in Made FTs to SGA

hes done enough. everybody scared of playoff luka. just need a reliable consistent team who drill their open shots and chips galore.

@@AnkitSharma-qm7sg lmfao he had one good year last season that’s all! That’s recent bias luka not playing like this all season and still have enough n the tank come playoff’s him and jokic are great regular season teams play them better n the playoffs

Luka won't win a ring? He's literally in his 5th year averaging 34 9 and 9 and went to the wcf last season. You either don't know ball or ur insanely biased.

@@jackbryant9033 with this current play style, no he’s not. Nobody ever has.

bro 21st millenium 🤣

Harden took his team to a conference final, look at his roster. Man was a machine.

@@mycole1990 luka also made the conference finals lol. Look at his roster 🤧

Luka this season is arguably a better scorer than Kobe and he’s more efficient while doing so. It’s a strange comparison though because Luka is 6’7 and his duties, unlike Kobe’s, are to run the offense completely. Luka can shoot from mid range, 3, post fade, hook shot, floater, back down bigs in the paint, etc. He has a larger repertoire due to his size. If Luka could play more like a 2 guard and didn’t have to worry about facilitating he would probably average way more points. I think it’s weird to compare Kobe to Luka given their respective positions and duties while on the floor. That’s just my opinion. Can’t speak on MJ because I never watched him play.

@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 Kobe put up these numbers while playing ELITE level defense. Luka "bends" the rules much more while Kobe got straight buckets and wasn't foul baiting like ALL these elite players do. Don't disrespect Kobe like that dawg

@@savonsanders8684 He said scorer bro. Wtf does defense have to do with scoring. Read before you respond.

@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 He's not a better scorer. Luka foul baits, and travels a lot bending the rules!! Kobe with the same leeway he's gonna easily average 40. Harden and Luka are really no different from each other. Kobe is arguably the best 1v1 iso player pure skills wise as in he has 2 many 'counter moves' in his arsenal. Luka foul baits, and does step backs exactly like Harden. When you're playing both sides of the ball, it is draining and tiring. I'm pointing out how insane and difficult it is to drop 35+ points, while also guarding the opposing teams BEST perimeter players. Luka is just asked to make things happen. Kobe did that and was an amazing lockdown defender. I read it clear the first time dawg! What's harder just dropping 35+' or dropping 35+ while guarding other scorers averaging 30+!? Kobe could get 50 every night bro without foul baiting that's the crazy part and skill wise Luka is not the pure scorer Kobe is.

Give Luka that same team with Paul as he was then and he would do just fine.

@williamroper5422 so that would also mean you have to assume that cp3 would miss 20+ games in the regular season, and he would get hurt in the playoffs. And sure Luka did great against the Sun's but we all know they're frauds and same with the Clippers, the 73-9 team that Harden faced would've swept both of those teams and people forget how great of a defender prime Klay, Dreymond and Iggy were, they held LeBron and Harden to 40% shooting in the playoffs

@@sydguitar99 Luka would have got that one more win they needed without Paul.

@williamroper5422 you think Luka could beat the prime Warriors? People really forget how elite of defenders prime Klay, Dreymond and Iggy were. They would do the same thing they did to Harden, since there's no other offensive threat on the floor bc cp3 was out, all they would do is double/triple Luka to force him to take bad shot. Dawg his team nearly got swept against this version of the Warriors which is nowhere as good as the prime Warriors Harden had faced.

@@sydguitar99 and we are forgetting prime Eric Gordon, paint presence capella and cp3 who won that game 5 with his clutch performance. Give luka tha team and it wouldn't be a 7 game series, with pj tucker who virtually cancels out durant, the playing field balances

ähm yeah and? Harden averaged double digits ast 6 times and those times his ast was on par or higher than Lebron. Lebron avg double digits ast once in his entire career.

Lol Harden ain’t missing no playoffs with kyrie on his team 😂😂

@@dequanadams8107 Luka couldn’t even make it to the playoffs 😂 😂

@@dequanadams8107 luka is better now

@@bgod7966 lmao no tf he not 😂😂

He actually did cook Kawhi a few times during the 2020-2021 playoff series.

@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 that's a stretch

@@lord_vipr I’m not saying he cooked him the entire playoff but there were multiple possessions, especially during the first two games, where they switched Luka primary defender back and forth between George and Leonard and he still scored on both. I remember prior to the series starting everyone was saying Kawhi was going to clamp him.

@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 kawhi was doing great on him every 4th qtr that series. Ppl keep "assuming" he's gassed out but I think kawhi figured him out in the series

How will he clear prime Harden, he'd have to win multiple scoring titles, 2 MVPs, 2 assist titles and a championship

@@sydguitar99 facts

Nah bro

Luka puts up number, Harden was going against the warriors head on

@@sydguitar99 y’all put way too much stock in accolades lmao

Harden is though, he actually runs plays instead of doing last second bailouts to a "maybe" open guy on the 3. Plus Harden has highlights on highlights of several passes he does. Luja does not. Except facts

@@Notcleverenough L O L

I mean harden leads league in ast an has in the past

@@stuntmandaniels3323 two things need to happen for an assist , we’re talking about passing

@@antoniollopiz150 it’s about the set up….harden gets ppl better open looks an more quality shots..

Misses freethrows, has done nothing, is a terrible passer, cries all the time. Pretty simple to me

@@Notcleverenough he’s gotten to as many WCF as James Harden already LMFAO. And averages more assists. Has a deeper bag of tricks which means his numbers go UP in the playoffs while Harden’s go DOWN. He does complain but Harden is honestly the biggest foulbaiter of all time in NBA HISTORY so that is a useless point. Luka is just Harden with an elite mid range and post game. He’s very very slightly worse at 3’s than Harden that’s about it. And he’s an actual positive on the boards and not just a easy rebound merchant.

@@Notcleverenough has done nothing? nba teams are scared of playoff luka. hes done so much damage in the playoffs. without him, clippers would be champions. all the man needs is a reliable consistent team that drill their open shots and chips galore.

@@Notcleverenough He does miss free throws. I’ll raise you he doesn’t ignore an entire area of the court, even can operate in the high post . The hasn’t done anything argument just proves how on dick you are. James Harden was my favorite player for 8 years and has never played as consistently well in the playoffs. James Harden doesn’t guard anyone either and was/is a notorious cry baby. No one that actually knows ball, looks at both players and doesn’t think Luka at age 23-24 isn’t a better player than Harden was, and will continue to go on that trajectory. Hasn’t done anything? They both led teams to a WCF LOSS against GS. Luka has done it earlier, and raises his game in the playoffs more consistently. It’s indisputable and people need to hop off that weird shit.

Teams are gonna let Luka score and guard the rest of the team. With Harden, you have to shut him down because he was unstoppable.

@@mycole1990 free throws * He was getting bs calls.

@@mycole1990 like I said Luka is better… Luka is way more efficient and don’t forget he’s 23! And getting to the line 15-20 times a game isn’t unstoppable just chessy. But I mean if your judging him being better cus of that then go off 😂

THOUGHTS IN THE CLOUDS That’s not true. Harden is actually more efficient based on his TS% which has been 60% or more in most of his years in Houston. Luka has been below 60% TS in most of his years except this year which Luka’s TS is 62% this year. You can’t just measure efficiency by field goal %. TS% accounts for 3s & free throws. Harden is a better 3 point shooter than Luka where Harden shot 36-37% from 3 consistently compared to Luka who has shot only at 35% and Harden attempts more free throws & makes more free throws by shooting a better % from the kind

He doesn’t need to face a team as great as that to prove he’s better than Harden. Ultimately, Harden did not win. He did give the Warriors fits but CP3 was a huge part of that (he sealed game 5). Luka has never played with a player as great as CP3 yet

@pickaside but Cp3 missed 20+ games in 2018 and 2019, so Harden was doing a carry job and in 2018 Cp3 got hurt, 2019 cp3 choked. I mention that Warriors team bc Luka will never play against a defense as elite as that prime Warriors team that Harden was averaging 32ppg against in the playoffs on above-average efficiency. Not too mention Luka nearly got swept by this version of the Warriors which is nowhere even close to the level of the 73-9 team Harden faced

Lmaoooo Harden wouldn't have done FUCK ALL against the Clippers with healthy Kawhi and PG.

@@sydguitar99 Harden carried in the regular season and deserves credit but I dont see much of a difference between that and what Luka is doing now. The Mavericks are currently the 4th seed in a tough west and his two best teammates are Wood and Dinwiddie

@@MemesOfProduction69 The same Harden who averaged 33ppg against the 73-9 Warriors???

This is stupid

This is incredible ignorant lmaooooo

@@MemesOfProduction69 luka plays identical to harden so wym 😂

He is tho. Luka has flashy passes but isn’t necessarily a good playmaker, Harden on the other hand was getting tripled team. Harden success was due to his ability to iso and facilitate