M1978 Koksan and M1989 | 170mm self-propelled guns of North Korea

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We are investigating the M1978 Koksan and M1989, one of the most powerful artillery weapons of the Korean People's Army. #artillery #nortkorea #army
Why did North Korea develop the long-range 170mm artillery family?
What is the origin of the 170mm gun?
Do the self-propelled artillery systems have a future?
Are the M1978 Koksan and M1989 still meaningful weapon systems in a possible war between two Korea?
00:00 Introduction
01:20 Historical background
01:51 Programme history
03:23 Hull
04:59 Gun and firepower
07:01 Users
07:26 Specifications
08:23 Combat history
08:44 Analysis
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@WeaponDetective 6 ай бұрын

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@tasman006 6 ай бұрын

They would be useless in a NBC, chemical environment and the crew is not well protected agianst counter battery fire. Range of the gun would be good I'd say but it looks very similar to the Russian 2S7 Pion SPG.

@siamaktahaeiyaghoubi897 6 ай бұрын

As far as I have heard from the military people, the most important aspect of a weapon is its' functionality. If the weapon works and is reliable, it can be useful for some scenarios. So, these two artillery pieces may help North Koreans if necessary.

@dadrising6464 Ай бұрын

And a shell will always be cheaper than a missile..

@timbrwolf1121 6 ай бұрын

The gun does not need a fume extractor. They are only meant for enclosed turrets to mitigate gases from entering the turret during reloading.

@murasame5071 6 ай бұрын

koksan my be old , but it definetly NOT obsolete. South Korean Military is right to dread these.

@bigdeal5108 6 ай бұрын

The ongoing war in Ukraine has made most current military theories lest to say "questionable," artillery guided by drones, thick Air Defense, drones (of all kinds), long-distance placement of mines.... all who study military history and try to keep up with modern systems must be be very careful if we try to paint something "obsolete" or even "unbeatable" in modern conflict.

@0BLACKESTFUN0 6 ай бұрын

well said , thats the biggest issue why ukraine war is still going on and is stagnating . Both sides know how to improvise and make obsolete weapon system still relevant.

@levilastun829 5 ай бұрын

It can be argued that artillery guided by drones is something revolutionary, because now the artillery can hit accurately in indirect fire even individual moving vehicles. Before this war, I don't know if any military thinker, was ever considering that artillery could even be that accurate, especially with unguided projectiles. Another thing seen in Ukraine, is that the concentration of forces for the attack is extremely hard and risky, mainly because of the accuracy of the artillery, forcing both sides to make offensive actions with quite small military units, which struggle to make a breakthrough in prepared defensive lines

@mrmakhno3030 6 ай бұрын

Nowaday North Korea have tons of alternative solution for Koksan. They have 600 mm KN 25 IRBM and 300 mm MLRS. In the operational fire support mission they have 155 mm SPG which seems like a direct copy from Chinese one. So Koksan will soon end its service to be replaced by a new generation of North Korean artillery system.

@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle 6 ай бұрын

170mm is an uncommon calibre. Germany used it in WW2 for their long range field gun. I haven’t heard of others using this size

@CharChar2121 6 ай бұрын

I think the British had a gun like this but I'm not sure.

@viktordragovich94 6 ай бұрын

Germans used 172mm, US used 175mm, Soviet Union use 180mm.

@hotlanta35 6 ай бұрын

@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle I think the 170mm is coming back in style though.

@unknown..38 6 ай бұрын

@@hotlanta35dude whole world is switching to 155mm . Even my country has default Soviet 152mm now we make our own 155mm as well and we brought light weight howitzer that too is 155mm. All mobile howitzer are now using 155mm. It was made standard by usa. Even s.korean shifted on 155mm. Also traditional Scandinavian who used there own Bofors 122mm are making 155mm now.

@levilastun829 5 ай бұрын

@@unknown..38The 155mm has become so popular that before this war, the Russians were offering on the export market some of their 152mm howitzers, resized to 155mm. Even China and India changed from 152mm to 155mm, even though I'm not sure if it's ammunition it's compatible with the NATO standard

@tarekmalaeb8229 6 ай бұрын

Very informative, can you do a video concerning the Iraqi made howitzer that countered the M-1978

@ifanramadhana7833 6 ай бұрын

I assume that would be Al-Faw, the 210 mm SPG project. Little is known beside that it was designed by Gerard Bull company, so it could have been enlarged GHN-45 in a chassis that copied G6 Rhino.

@unknown..38 6 ай бұрын

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@mohammedsaysrashid3587 6 ай бұрын

Another wonderful video was shared by an excellent (🙏 weapon detective) channel .video about North Korean M 1978 Korean & M1989 self-propelled guns. Video clearly explained all characteristics of these long-range self-propelled guns and their historical backgrounds.thank you for sharing

@tickysiasiluka68 6 ай бұрын

Only ignorant people can say these weapons are obsolete.You just have to know when and where to use them.

@habahan4257 6 ай бұрын

Another high-quality video. Thanks.

@Deine_Mutter_hat_kommentiert 6 ай бұрын

Looks like a soviet 2s7 in a smaller caliber

@cwf_media9200 6 ай бұрын

see you there

@wiktorberski9272 5 ай бұрын

Really strange weapon. Initially, I thought, that it was a distant cousin of the soviet 2S5 Giatsint. But I was wrong. Thank for this movie

@Panzergruppe22 5 ай бұрын

the name Juche-po is likely referred to their Juche ideology it possibly means Juche Cannon, Juche Artillery, or something like that, not the 'main gun'

@HeavenlyMandate 6 ай бұрын

Wargame red dragon players, assemble

@bremnersghost948 6 ай бұрын

Regarding the Soviets providing NK with German 170mm Guns that is accurate, Soviets also provided a lot of captured German equipment to the CCP in the late 40s & early 50s.

@1KosovoJeSrbija1 5 ай бұрын

a modern 170mm SPG, with modern ammunition and an autoloader would be a counter battery menace, able to outrange anything

@barriewright2857 6 ай бұрын

It might be old. If it ain't broken don't fix it.

@kimyseock 4 ай бұрын

Juche, 주체 is not just meaning ‘main’. it is word comes from DPRK’s ideology name. 주체사상, Juchesasang.

@saudagartebu8846 5 ай бұрын

Mantap semangat sukses mampir 👍

@user-dv5gi7hv5f 6 ай бұрын

북한의 최신형 M2018에 대한 소식은 없네, 이건 사진 분석으로 152mm이거나 155mm로 추정하긴 하는데 러시아와 공통성을 갖기 위해 152mm로 생각한다는 정도에 M1978이나 M1989보다 사거리가 짧다고 본답니다 대략 40km 정도. 그리고 170mm대포인 M1978과 M1989의 포탄 중량이 20~kg 정도로 나포표준 155mm의 절반 정도 105mm와 비슷한 중량이라 비행거리만 늘어났을 뿐 포격정밀성은 포기한 것으로 간주하고 있습니다. 그저 서울에 민간인을 가리지 않고 쏠 수 있다는 공포 유발용이지 않을까요?! 이 영상에서 알려주신대로의 대량 방사포들이 실질적인 위협으로 간주되고 있습니다.

@k.kavala 6 ай бұрын

arada sırada açıp fotograflarına bakarım. hatta daha dün baktım.

@ArizonaAstraLLC 6 ай бұрын

Me too

@ALPHA.141 6 ай бұрын

Make a vedio about Chinese ZBD-04A

@lukejohnston4666 6 ай бұрын

Sino BMP3 (in weaponry)

@JD-tn5lz 6 ай бұрын

Slow to move. Slow to emplace. Slow to fire. Slow to relocate. Pretty much meant as a one-shot pony or fixed-emplacement howitzer. One problem with fixed.emplacements is that not only are they easy to find, you don't have to actually destroy them to make them useless. Essentially, these aren't anything to sneeze at, but they are 1980's tech (at best) designed to fight WW2.

@guitarazn90210 6 ай бұрын

If NK acquires layered air defense systems from Russia or China, they'll be fighting a WW2-esque battle like in Ukraine.

@misterbig9025 6 ай бұрын

5:00 Who were inside the Mercedes Benz?

@DespothLord 5 ай бұрын

It looks like bigger version of russian s-51 artilery

@Alex-no1rb 6 ай бұрын

i would doubt their "uselessness". For example, ukrainian 2S7 Pions was one of the crucial weapon to win battle at Kyiv

@Neyreyan 6 ай бұрын

what kiev battle? the one where that 50 km convoy sat outside kiev for a week and then left?

@Alex-no1rb 6 ай бұрын

@@Neyreyan they literally try to capture city: many helicopter landings (famous one in Hostomel), spetznaz incursions (even inside the capital), many cities was occupied+fight on the left bank part of region. You could just read some ukrainians recollections about it, if u know either ukrainian or russian

@Neyreyan 6 ай бұрын

@@Alex-no1rb depends on point of view, everyone knew they couldn't capture Kiev with 40.000 soldiers or how much they had there then. They forced peace negotiations and almost got a peace treaty if foreign powers didnt intervene. No army on this planet can take over capital cities in a modern warfare situation. Anyway, the Pions is a very good a artilery piece that still has many uses, the ukranians used them so much until one of them just exploded from poor maintenance

@Alex-no1rb 5 ай бұрын

@@Neyreyan well, they could capture it,because theyve outnumbered ukrainians. No, negotiations wouldnt work because nobody would guarantee ukrainian neutrality, as it was with Budapest memorandum and our neutrality status in 1991-2019. And you just cant trust russians, because they genocidical nation which nobody could trust No, Ukraine lost more than one Pion due to barrel malfunction

@user-co3uc8vt7e 5 ай бұрын

Thing is, it's very apparent that the entire battle plan was to move troops close to Ukraine's capital and therefore scare Ukraine's government into signing any papers Russia handles over. Russian task force was objectively insufficient for taking Kiev, and poorly managed too.

@petermann7131 6 ай бұрын

Artillery is artillery. See ukraine

@ProfessorBidoof 6 ай бұрын

0:32 Where's the 180mm? xd

@alexanderp8037 6 ай бұрын

North korea best korea 🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵👍💪

@rock_ok 5 ай бұрын

look at the war in Ukraine and syria today it is fought by artillery battles and helis and coldwar migs and drones. meaning that ballistic missiles can be intercepted by antimissile batteries. heavy artillery is not historical.

@Ade-mu4zn 5 ай бұрын

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@Ade-mu4zn 5 ай бұрын

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@fernandoferreira-do8vh 6 ай бұрын

aguante norcorea

@Ianmundo 6 ай бұрын

If the South Koreans are half as clever as I suspect they are, they will have paid close attention to the tactics that have been effective in the War in Ukraine. Armed FPV drones, Surveillance + GMLRS have attritted Russian artillery and we can be quite confident N.Korea is no better

@user-dv5gi7hv5f 6 ай бұрын

글쎄요, 당신이 주장하는 영역에 대한 연구개발을 한국은 이미 상당히 오래 실행해 왔습니다, 하지만 대부분의 군사전문가들이 다루질 않죠. 안티드론 능력에 대해서도 물론 일부 장군들에 의해 간과되었지만 이스라엘의 시스템을 적용할 것을 고려도 해보았지만 한국 지형에선 쓸모없음을 알고 개발하고 있죠. 이동형 안티드론 장비는 이미 시험을 끝내고 양산판정을 기다리는 것이 있고 여러 영역의 드론에 대한 연구는 별로 알려지지 않았지만 미국제 드론의 운용상 불편함에 비슷한 성능의 고고도용와 중고도용 대형드론이 개발 중이고 탑재해야하는 각종 관측장비들은 이미 보유하고 있습니다. GMLRS는 폴란드에 이미 300km급 유도투사체 생산을 위한 기술지원을 하는 나라가 한국이라는 것을 상기시켜 드립니다, 드론이 많이 사용되진 않지만 각 상황에 맞게 개발되고 있고 이미 만들어진 안티드론 체계가 가장 많은 국가중 하나라는 것도요. 북한만 비밀의 국가가 아니라 한국도 군사기술에 대해서는 많은 부분이 비밀로 가려놓은 국가라서 한국인이 아닌 타국의 군사전문가가 더 높은 수준의 자료를 갖고 있는 경우도 있지만 그런만큼 한국민과 타국 군사전문가도 접해보지 못한 군사기술을이 감춰져 있다는 걸 감안해 주세요.

@user-co3uc8vt7e 5 ай бұрын

You know, North Koreans are taking notes too

@minhmeo9506 6 ай бұрын

South Korea's technological advantage in the field of artillery has begun to appear weaker based on recent developments. NK recently released a new SPG model in 155mm caliber, it is said to be based on an Iranian design and can be considered their answer to K9 Thunder. And certainly North Korea's rocket artillery technology is proving better than its opponents in the South, at least for the next few years.

@ELYELYELroy 6 ай бұрын

South Korea has vastly superior rocket artillery and tube artillery. They are capable of producing and using guided rounds and rocket assisted rounds, combat management systems, counterbattery radar, autoloading systems and fire control systems.

@ifanramadhana7833 6 ай бұрын

Like many North Korean projects, little is known about it, even if it's based on Iranian Raad, the SPG itself was based on an old M109. There is little evidence if North Korean can produce it in meaningful number. Beside if it's indeed the case that it was based on Raad, it's hardly modern compared to K9 Thunder with their digital FCS.

@unknown..38 6 ай бұрын

Dude I don't think so the k9 thunder is way better than nkorean A.gun

@commie5211 6 ай бұрын

@@ifanramadhana7833 It kinda does not matter what North Korea has, North Korea has a security treaty with China. If anything happen. PLA is going to be there in the Next day. China does not equip north Korea because they don't want North Korea even think about starting a war like in 1950.

@bremnersghost948 6 ай бұрын

Vertically challenged Dictators using Big Guns as Penis Extensions again, In reality Koksan is another example of Ye Olde Cold War Junk that is outranged by SK 155mm with modern Ammo types that the Koksans hiding in Bunkers won't save them from.