M21 [M14 Sniper Variant] to 800yds: Practical Accuracy (XM21 | M14 SSR | XM25 | M25 SWS)

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The M21, is the M14 sniper variant that captured our attention on the hollywood screen. The elusive American Semi-Auto sniper variant serving from the Vietnam era all the way to the 2012 time frame during the Global War on Terror era... to righting Russian troops in... 2022?!
The M21 base rifle is not an easy project, as early armorers realized that the M14 was not an easy rifle to "accurize"... and yet up until the 2010 era, the M14 patterned sniper rifle seemed to be adored by many but understood by only a few snipers.
We delve into the M21's intricacies, and how the rifle we show is actually a hybrid U.S. Navy M14 SSR and a proper M21.
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XM21 • XM21, Vietnam War Snip...
M25 SWS • M25 USSOCOM Sniper Rifle!
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00:00 - SBI
00:08 - Intro
01:28 - COD4 alt level
03:59 - Stats Screens
04:55 - PA Course
05:55 - 9H Podcast
08:51 - Patreon - Utreon
09:52 - Debrief starts
10:21 - HISTORY: M14 sniper variants (U.S.)
19:34 - COD and 9H Podcast
21:12 - Range observations
25:11 - M118LR ammo
26:29 - Sniper doctrine
28:58 - Marksman (DM) consideration
29:45 - the M21/M14's successors
31:30 - Final Words
33:13 - Analysis / Score
33:24 - speedway tease
33:42 - REDCON!

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@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews Жыл бұрын
@9H Podcasts on Chernobyl and Pripyat (Episode 4) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7GDesSZ0MWXepc.html PSA: don't just get an M1a and think it will do the same. If that worked then the U.S. gov wouldn't have to spend so much time in developing an M21-XM25 (which is essentially entirely upgraded except for the receiver/bolt/oprod. What you see here cost me 50 Benjamins, so beware before you dive into such a project. Special thanks to @The Armourer's Bench "M14 In Ukraine" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qd6Wdt1e29HHpqc.html @Vintage Rifles Shooters Club XM21kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNmDhbxmzZa4kaM.html M25 SWS kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtuTrdeatNTLkoU.html
@Gamer-dq8kr
@Gamer-dq8kr Жыл бұрын
By any chance can you recommend the best scopes
@damonbfriendly
@damonbfriendly Жыл бұрын
So, any chance you can share that m118LR clone load data? PLLLLEEEAAAASSSSEEEE?
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews Жыл бұрын
@@damonbfriendly 43.1 RL15 + 175smk + LC brass
@damonbfriendly
@damonbfriendly Жыл бұрын
@@9HoleReviews Awesome! Thanks.
@damonbfriendly
@damonbfriendly Жыл бұрын
@@9HoleReviews What kind of velocity were you getting?
@Ghatbkk
@Ghatbkk Жыл бұрын
As a Platoon Leader in the 101st Airborne Division in the early 80s, I had an M21 assigned to my Platoon - fiberglass stock, ART-II scope, built by the Army Marksmanship Unit at FT Benning. The user was our best E4 marksman who was sent to FT Campbell's "sniper" course. They were definitely capable of hitting targets at 800 meters. User (and armorer) were not allowed to disassemble the rifle.
@GeorgiaBoy1961
@GeorgiaBoy1961 Жыл бұрын
Many people - even military history fans - are not aware that the top-scoring U.S. sniper of the Vietnam conflict was U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Bert Waldron, of the 9th Infantry Division. Until the late Navy SEAL CPO Chris Kyle surpassed his record, Waldron was the top-scoring U.S. sniper of all time with 109 confirmed kills in combat. Waldron utilized an M21 - an accurized M-14 rifle with a scope - during his entire tour. He operated both during the day and at night using a Starlight scope, and once downed a V.C. guerilla at 900 meters from the prow of a moving riverine patrol craft... with his CO (commanding officer) looking on, no less. The old saying goes, "It isn't the tool, it is the craftsman" - and Waldron probably would have been successful using any number of other platforms or weapons systems, but the fact of the matter is that he accomplished what he accomplished using an M-14. The received wisdom is that the M-14 was unreliable in Vietnam but this is not the whole story. During that era, scoped M-14s were parted-out as a unit, scope + rifle, so that if either one of the components of the system was defective or malfunctioned, the whole thing was red-lined for repair and went into the books as needing service. The reality is that the scopes in those days failed a lot more in the harsh climate of SE Asia than the rifles themselves did. Thereby skewing the statistical data. For what it is worth, I know a half dozen or so combat veterans of Vietnam, men who are 5-10 years older than I am (I am sixty-one), guys who used M-14s in Vietnam, and to a man, they all speak highly of the rifle. I know that because at a BBQ fifteen or so years ago, to welcome home one of the men's son's from Iraq where he'd done a tour as an 11B, they talked about the rifles - the M-14, and the M-16, which they hated! It was pretty funny, if you have ever heard a bunch of liquored-up grunts & former infantrymen start to use harsh language.... those guys... well, let's just say they could cuss quite creatively and leave it at that. They started with calling the M-16 a "poodle shooter" and things went on from there. We then button-holed the son, and asked him his opinion. He'd never used an M-14, but he liked his M16 just fine and said it never let him down.
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 I have the opposite experience. We were issued M14s in McMillian stocks with Leupold optics as DMR in Iraq, and found them to be finicky and unreliable. The rifles were bedded, and the bedding made standard disassembly an armorer level task. We weren't allowed to remove the receiver from the stock for fear of disturbing the bedding. The roller bearing required grease to function and the open receiver invited grit and debris in. So the rifle's would inevitably gum up and freeze, and there was nothing we could do to restore function because we were forbidden from taking them apart. Consequently, we removed the Leupold optic from the rifle and replaced the RCO on one of our A4s with the Leupold from the M14, then called that our DMR. The M16A4 was a fine service rifle, much more reliable than the M14, and we could at least maintain the rifle to a usable degree of reliability and accuracy. The M14 was technically issued and saw service, but it rarely saw actual use, and mostly just banged around in the back of Humvees with MREs, bottled water, ammo cans, and rolls of Cope Long Cut. Later, we were issued Mk 12s as DMRs, and we happily surrendered our M14s for them. The Mk 12s and the Mk 262 became the most coveted rifle outside the wire. They were the only thing we saw high speed enough to be suppressed, they were accurate, and they did everything we asked of them out to pretty incredible distances; 600 yards pretty easily, sometimes 800 if you needed it. I have an M1 Garand I inherited from my grandpa, and an M1A that I tried to supplement it with. The Garand gets played with for nostalgia on occasion. I really tried to like the M1A, but the gas system rattled loose around 1000 rounds and had to be sent back to Springfield for a unitized gas cylinder, and then my roller bearing fell off within 12 rounds of getting it back from Springfield. I was having a helluva time getting it scoped, and having things rattle loose and fall off was kind of the the last straw. So I bought an Aero Precision AR-10, and it has been functionally superior to the M1A in every way. It is more reliable, more accurate, more durable, easier to maintain, easier to accessorize. I like the Aero Precision so much that I bought another, and now the M1A, like the M14 we were issued, is relegated to collecting dust in the closet. I have no use for it because anything it can do, my AR-10s will do better, I am hesitant to spend more money getting it shooting again because I'd rather just spend that on ammo and components for the AR-10s, and I can't get rid of it because I was bought with money I got when my mom passed, so it has sentimental value. For anything serious, I would take an AR variant over an M14 any day of the week without hesitation. It isn't even close. If you read up on the history of the M14, it has literally never been more reliable or more accurate than the M16. The M14 was like a Democrat, it couldn't win anything without cheating and was only ever adopted because Ord Corps lowered standards and sabotaged competition until it won. The adoption of the M14 was such an expensive, embarrassing debacle that both the Ord Corps and Springfield Armory never recovered from it. Then some company in IL buys rights to the name Springfield Armory so they can claim by association prestige they never earned and starts pumping out cast receiver garbage variants of an abomination service rifle and people are surprised when they have problems, like Springfield Bolt Roller Impact Defect, which I unfortunately never discovered until researching why the roller just fell off my rifle for no apparent reason.
@OverlordGrizzaka
@OverlordGrizzaka Жыл бұрын
It should be service policy that armorers aren't allowed to disassemble. None of them have a clue what they are doing.
@pfcjewbacca911
@pfcjewbacca911 Жыл бұрын
@@OverlordGrizzaka I think he ment like basic field stripping. For field stripping an m14 it requires removing the receiver from the stock so you can get the the gas system for cleaning. But because the stock is bedded for accuracy it means you can't take it apart for basic maintenance like how it was originally designed and then used in vietnam but because we made it a Frankenstein sniper rifle you can't do basic cleaning on it
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 Жыл бұрын
@@callsigncrusader9877 I don't care, and facts don't care about your feelings.
@daleboatman2967
@daleboatman2967 Жыл бұрын
I carried one for a year, or a little more, in in 1966. I also shot a M1A1 in competition in the last 70's. A marine armorer showed me some tricks to make it a more accurate rifle. One of them was to cut the upper guard to free float along the stock. You would also polish the metal at the front where the guard touched the stock so it would return the the same spot after each shot.
@jamescameron6819
@jamescameron6819 Жыл бұрын
I love the ability you two have to be very serious and professional but also very funny without being stupid and cringy
@M21Karl
@M21Karl Жыл бұрын
I remember my M21 fondly. I still remember the serial number all these years later. It had a wood stock and an ART scope and we were not allowed to take them apart for cleaning. It was very accurate. In fact the picture to the left is me with my M21 around 1980.
@jayblemsin4226
@jayblemsin4226 Ай бұрын
Neat thanks for sharing!
@juncho1977
@juncho1977 Жыл бұрын
I had a Match Conditioned M14 type rifle w/a Medium weight Criterion barrel, unitized gas cylinder, glass bedded job and a match trigger job. Even with those improvements, the rifle only shot 2MOA w/FGMM. I knew I deserved better accuracy than that so I sold it & got an AR10 type rifle which shoots about 1MOA.
@TimPimentel3006
@TimPimentel3006 Жыл бұрын
Nearly the same situation here. Rifle was one of the biggest “money sucks” I’ve ever known. Beautiful rifle, a true “rifleman’s rifle”, but an out of the box AR10 shoots just as well, even a little better.
@JonnyBabyaka
@JonnyBabyaka Жыл бұрын
If you would have sent it to Clint Fowler and saved some money it would have shot sub MOA If you do your job.
@juncho1977
@juncho1977 Жыл бұрын
Sent it to Ted Brown, well regarded M14 Smith. The rifle's design has too many things against it as far as potential accuracy and maintaining accuracy, mainly stock to action fit. Only an M14 apologist would try to defend the rifle not being as accurate as other designs. I see it on the M14forum all the time.
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 Жыл бұрын
What barrel length did you chose for your ar-10?
@Huhmasta
@Huhmasta Жыл бұрын
Further evidence the M14 is just a dogshit rifle design
@TheGunGuyCody
@TheGunGuyCody Жыл бұрын
I used one in the Marines from 2010-12. I was a Designated Marksman with F.A.S.T company. They shot great and we could shoot sub MOA groups. It was replaced in 2014 with AR10 platform.
@Night_Bandit
@Night_Bandit 3 ай бұрын
Oh Fast is that “Fleet something Security Team” (Cant’t remember the name) right? I used to have a Marine Corps history book as a teen and remember reading about them. Always thought they were cool since they were a lesser known group.
@saltyguerrilla
@saltyguerrilla Жыл бұрын
In the early 90s I bought my first M1A (green box) at a local gun show. I was young, and strong, and carried it in the mountains while backpacking. I fell in love with the platform, and I’ve never been a turncoat. I’ve owned many NM models over the years but none as sweet as the first one. Unfortunately I traded it for a boat along the way. Now I have a LRB tanker with all the bells and whistles. I have designated it a battle rifle along with my Galil Ace in 7.62 NATO. I can still shoot out to 600 open sights and have zero problems doing so. To me it will always be cherished.
@CloudZ1116
@CloudZ1116 Жыл бұрын
Any chance we'll get to see an EBR/EMR on this channel at some point?
@irishdefense77
@irishdefense77 Жыл бұрын
We had the M21 in the unit for years,and when I went to AMTU in 1990,right before the Gulf,that was my weapon.It was dead nuts accurate to 800 and could be pushed to 860,but we didn’t get the chance.After deployment,we never saw them again-we were retrained on the M24 SWS which was more accurate but a bolt action.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Great video guys and thanks so much for the shout out, Ukraine really has given some of these rifles a last hurrah! Great to see it out on the range.
@VintageRiflesShootersClub
@VintageRiflesShootersClub Жыл бұрын
Love the video! Outstanding shooting in very difficult conditions! Greatly appreciated!
@chlebowg
@chlebowg Жыл бұрын
Well done Henry. We had XM21/M21s on the ODAs for my first 6 yrs in SF, then they were replaced with the M24. Later when I went thru 5th SFGA Sniper Course I had a M25 and two guys on my team had the M24s. I would later take a particular TRS M14 NM to Kenya, Iraq and All Army Match in 06' shooting out to 1000 yds with iron sights using M118LR. Today I would take either the M110/Mk11 (had a SR25 in Haiti) or the Mk17/20
@THEH2OMAN
@THEH2OMAN Жыл бұрын
My civilian perspective. I had my 'Crazy Horse' M21A5 type SEI in a Sage EBR chassis for several years... it was accurate, reliable, and kind of heavy. A few years ago I moved the Smith Enterprise assembled rifle into the Blackfeather RS chassis, the rifle remains accurate and reliable, but it is also about three (3) pounds lighter than the EBR chassis. Medium weight 22" barrel, 4 grooves, 1:10 ROT, chambered for M118LR... I have shot sub-MOA groups @ 100 yards using Portuguese NATO surplus using an Aimpoint CompM4 and a Wind Talker suppressor... I have never shot it at longer ranges. Smith Enterprise builds in one of the two aluminum chassis stocks with an M14 EBR trigger shoe make all the difference in the world for me.
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James Жыл бұрын
As a sniper in the 1970s I was issued an XM21 rifle with a Leatherwood A.R.T. II scope, it was a great combination!!
@THEH2OMAN
@THEH2OMAN Жыл бұрын
I have owned several accurized civilian M14s, my favorite is a Crazy Horse M21A5 built by Smith Enterprise. I have it set up in a light weight Blackfeather RS chassis stock... it consistently shoots sub-MOA groups
@THEH2OMAN
@THEH2OMAN Жыл бұрын
The most successful, reliable, and accurate EBRs were the 6000+ M14EBR-RI the Army fielded, and the 125 MK14 Mod 0 type SEI rifle that Smith Enterprise refitted.
@petoncovet8476
@petoncovet8476 Жыл бұрын
Stellar performance Henry. Very interesting discussion of one shot one kill philosophy and general bad rap M14 series rifle gets
@rustyhawk9335
@rustyhawk9335 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the Brookfield Precision Tool steel stock liner wasn't mentioned. It virtually eliminated zero shift during field strip. There were M25s used in service with this steel liner.
@Ripper13F1V
@Ripper13F1V Жыл бұрын
I really wish someone would make those again.
@joshuaredhorse4030
@joshuaredhorse4030 Жыл бұрын
@@Ripper13F1V BPT's owner Mitch Mateiko did briefly come out of retirement a few years ago to make a few batches of M25 stock liners. There were only around 75-80 of them produced in total but there are some newly minted units out in circulation to be haggled for and pried out of the clutches of whoever holds one now. I was lucky enough to get ahold of one and it is currently installed in a McMillan M3A stock with my own rifle built off a Polytech M14/S receiver done up in a similar manner to Henry's own example. All the gunsmithing for the rifle itself was done by Smith Enterprise and the stock and liner work was done at Accuracy Speaks by Rio Salado Sportsman's Club. The final finished product is a beauty of a rifle.
@davidh5903
@davidh5903 Жыл бұрын
The horseplay from you guys never dissapoints. Nor does the shooting, wow
@THEDUKEOFNUTS1
@THEDUKEOFNUTS1 Жыл бұрын
Range kitty at 7:03!
@Just_Some_Person
@Just_Some_Person Жыл бұрын
Deploy the PS-PS-PS.
@romeo_alpha0176
@romeo_alpha0176 Жыл бұрын
Cat needs ear pro and a vest, lol
@flyingnorseman
@flyingnorseman Жыл бұрын
My dad was a vietnam vet. He also was on his High Schools shooting team. They won the Georgia State Championship in the 1950s. He bought a match grade M 14. Said it was the ultimate rifle. My drug addicted uncle stole the rifle from us when my father passed in 2011. That broke my heart.
@FuryTomic
@FuryTomic Жыл бұрын
Classic, Cousin Harry strikes again!
@johne453
@johne453 Жыл бұрын
LOVED the M21. Consistent sub MOA groups at 1000m.
@Cmoth040
@Cmoth040 Жыл бұрын
Anyone making fun of their comments regarding the "cold" weather, some perspective is needed. I was born and raised in Houston, moving out of the State in 1999. I have lived in North Dakota ever since. I can tell you, without hesitation, 20 degrees below zero, with low humidity, feels better than 20 degrees above zero in high humidity. The humidity cuts the cold right down to your bones.
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews Жыл бұрын
I actually got that when we were in Afghanistan during spring thaw. Every day, it would melt, then mud, and wet boots. Like you , I also would much rather be in colder temps in the Alps than wet afghan mountains in the spring with wet everything for weeks.
@oif3vetk9
@oif3vetk9 Жыл бұрын
I competed on my unit's rifle team (National Guard) with a M14 back in the early 90's and did extremely well with it. That started my love affair with the platform. Fasy forward to 2013 and I picked up a M1A scout. Long story short did a bunch of upgrades, developed a handload, added glass, headshots at 684 yards are totally doable and repeatable. That said, not the rifle to use for PRS matches. lol I used it my first year shooting PRS and while fun I knew I needed something different. Ended up switching to a AR chambered in 6mm ARC. I still take the M1A with me to matches as a backup. Why? I had the extractor break on my 6 ARC and (foolishly) didn't have spare parts but my wife was coming up later in the day (the break happened during practice the day before the match) so I had her grab Vera (my M1A) and I used Vera for that match. Have to admit, it was fun putting Vera through her paces again during a match. If nothing else it's always a crowd pleaser.
@tumbleweed9977
@tumbleweed9977 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best M-14 type rifle videos out there. Anyone who wants to get into this firearm should watch it to be aware of what they buying and why they would want to buy it. Excellent job and keep up the great work!
@wrightsublette1701
@wrightsublette1701 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode gentlemen, I fall into the former category that are very fond of the M-14/M-21 system as I was that cold war sailor who carried the M-14 for ships security and on a rare occasion ashore to provide security for a detachment from my ship. One day if I can ever afford it, I would love to upgrade my Polytech M1A to a M-21 standard. One day I hope to be able to join your patron supporters, alas the last few years have been challenging to make ends meet. Cheers, and keep up the great content. ! - Wright Sublette
@THEH2OMAN
@THEH2OMAN Жыл бұрын
Send your Poly to Smith Enterprise, Ron Smith knows more about the Chinese M14 than the Chinese do.
@wrightsublette1701
@wrightsublette1701 Жыл бұрын
@@THEH2OMAN awesome ! Thanks so much :)
@amaanarain2774
@amaanarain2774 Жыл бұрын
I love the historic side of the video, so many details surrounding the M14/M21 that I was unaware of up to this point. Nicely shot as always, Henry!
@quietus13
@quietus13 Жыл бұрын
Glad y'all are revisiting this platform. Yes it is not as optimized as other more modern d platforms, but having some experience with it I feel it is way overly maligned by folks who've never even held one. Mine has been accurate, robust, and very reliable. Also, unlike many more modern platforms, when you run out of ammo you can still club your enemies to death with one. Many years ago when my glass bedding was needing replacement I dropped my NM into a aluminum Blackfeather RS chassis and I couldn't be happier. Light weight, durable, and every bit as accurate as the original glass bedded walnut stock. I even like the look.
@GeorgiaBoy1961
@GeorgiaBoy1961 Жыл бұрын
Quietus13 - You caught my eye with the mention of the Blackfeather system. Can you get them in the 'States? I'm asking because they're a Canadian design, if memory serves.
@quietus13
@quietus13 Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 yes they are Canadian but I had no problems ordering mine shipped to my house in the US. I was able to do the installation mostly myself, although my NM barrel was just slightly too fat for a ring component that I had a local gun smith machine for me.
@GeorgiaBoy1961
@GeorgiaBoy1961 Жыл бұрын
@@quietus13 - Thanks for the info!
@mengx94
@mengx94 Жыл бұрын
use it all the time in cod
@Matkovic99
@Matkovic99 Жыл бұрын
@7:03 a cat just chilling, walkin around in the background while a phat .308 battle rifle is slinging lead like 50 yards away. Now thats a disciplined cat
@herknorth8691
@herknorth8691 Жыл бұрын
The thing that always scared me away from the M14/M1A was how much "tuning" the hardcore M1A shooters claimed was needed to keep up the rifle's accuracy. Those guys would show up to matches with large toolboxes that were dedicated to making sure that every little thing was absolutely harmonized so that accuracy wouldn't suffer. It seemed like a nightmare for anyone who didn't get off with tinkering incessantly.
@rslover65
@rslover65 Жыл бұрын
I shot High Power competition for years with the AR and the M1A. The M1A is a super finicky thing. It costs three times as much to make an M1A shoot as well as a box stock Rock River Arms NM rifle.
@Whiskey11Gaming
@Whiskey11Gaming Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of this is also fine tuning a rifle for gnats ass accuracy when there is a practical accuracy for a DMR style rifle. If your goal is to punch tiny holes in paper, there are better, cheaper, platforms. If you want something with some history, which is also quite accurate, the M14 platform just fits. Nothing else quite shoots like a Garand action does. It's VERY distinct. FWIW, my M1A Loaded, basically a national match in a non bedded wood stock, has always shot consistently 1-1.25MOA 10 round groups without any tweaking after cleaning. There is DEFINITELY a settle in period of about 5-10 rounds after you first mate the stock to the action from a full disassembly, but once you are outside that window, it settles in quite nicely to being boringly predictable. As it stands, I'm about 1,000 rounds into the current full disassembly/reassembly, and it's been consistently at 1.25 MOA 10 round groups. I'm about 4,000 rounds in total through the barrel and she is just a straight shooter. Now, back to that practical accuracy thing, what goal are you attempting to achieve with your rifle? If you cannot define that mission, then should you really be buying a rifle at all? I don't think so. I bought mine for a fun plinking rifle that I could also take hog hunting if I wanted to. It's plenty capable of that job... again, practical accuracy. If you really want gnats ass tiny groups on paper, which is totally fine, the M14/M1A offers very little to you other than history, a good trigger, and great looks.
@EricMoldy
@EricMoldy Жыл бұрын
Love you guys! Thank you for the content.
@m118lr
@m118lr Жыл бұрын
..l gotta admit man, THESE are some of my FAV vids you guys. Y’all do an EXCELLENT job. I mean on everything from the set-up, choosing particularly your platforms and ammo specifics..all the way to music and editing, intros and outros. Just couldn’t really improve that I know of. Makes me want to change-out my ‘wood’-stocked M1A to a McMillan M21-style. I’ll leave the “old” Redfield 3x9 in place..great stuff!
@riley6475
@riley6475 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos guys, keep it up
@SideWays8Productions
@SideWays8Productions Жыл бұрын
My father carried one in Iraq 2004-05, and apparently the stripping, servicing and reassembly procedures for them was very similar to Springfield’s National Match rifles, which he owned several of and had learned to service, and thus was then able to service and clean his M21 in his bunker with tools he bought with his own money, without the need for his armorer.
@pauldees5003
@pauldees5003 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff as usual guys, thanks
@Stargazer80able
@Stargazer80able Жыл бұрын
Simply love your channel. Thank you.
@stevenfrost6441
@stevenfrost6441 Жыл бұрын
Those screams will haunt my nightmares forever. Thanks for that. Your clicks at 300 yds were spot on Henry...right in the pump house! 👍❤
@den_see
@den_see Жыл бұрын
Great work gentlemen! These videos are gold.
@marcelrenbo5940
@marcelrenbo5940 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always thanks for sharing.
@StrangerOman
@StrangerOman Жыл бұрын
Once again amazing shooting and great debrief. Love it. :)
@billdont2458
@billdont2458 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding content as usual guys. Keep it up. 💪💪💪
@LongRangeDesertGroupX
@LongRangeDesertGroupX Жыл бұрын
I am very impressed by the groups on most of those plates, seemed like sub MOA on the 300 yard target for sure.
@thelion7210
@thelion7210 Жыл бұрын
Love the channel, you guys do dope stuff.
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the M-14's reputation was that it was initially thought of with extreme reverence. Recently there has been a trend to go the opposite and completely trash it. It has become fashionable to treat it like it is the worst rifle ever, simply to be on the side of certain KZfaq celebrities. It's like the forward assist. People have suddenly decided you are stupid if you like having one on your AR. I think the truth in most cases lies somewhere in the middle. My own personal M-1A (that I stupidly sold) was pretty accurate and reliable, but I was using it with iron sights and I am not a Henry-level shot, so it's all subjective.
@Hazztech
@Hazztech Жыл бұрын
The M14 is a mistake. It doesn't matter whether it's good or not-it never should have existed.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Жыл бұрын
The undeniable fact is that we had a better rifle available, and the Army chose to ignore it. In the world of precision, "fine" isnt supposed to be okay.
@jesseterrell2109
@jesseterrell2109 Жыл бұрын
Well it did completely choke on the mud test.
@Courtesyflush52
@Courtesyflush52 Жыл бұрын
People trash the M14 because the FAL was a better choice from a technical and operational perspective but the US wanted an American design
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 Жыл бұрын
@@jesseterrell2109 It fired one round, the FAL fired two. Not much difference.
@markgreen1782
@markgreen1782 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Awesome rifle too.
@chrismoore7365
@chrismoore7365 Жыл бұрын
In Canada, it was popular because it was one of the only Cold War semi-auto rifles allowed for civilians to own (the Norinco version) not anymore sadly; It also wasn't gonna break the bank.
@eagleace67
@eagleace67 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. Our government will change soon. Liberals days are numbered. M1a will come back as non restricted. Trust on this.
@chrismoore7365
@chrismoore7365 Жыл бұрын
@@eagleace67 FYI, Conservative Party is no better then the Liberal Party in my opinion.
@douglaspatterson127
@douglaspatterson127 Жыл бұрын
This work was impressive. Solid stuff, right here.
@samfrazier8727
@samfrazier8727 Жыл бұрын
I carried a XM-21 in Iraq in 2010/2011 with the 25th inf. (Bco. 1/27wolfhounds) tell we got the M-110 mid deployment. I grew up with the Vietnam model one because my grandfather carried one. Loved both but the M-110 for sure was better lol. Just picked up a 6.5 creedmoor one to make look more old school but with better BC.
@jonathonpalmieri8655
@jonathonpalmieri8655 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@stephensands3485
@stephensands3485 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode! Super interesting discussion
@reginaldlarsen274
@reginaldlarsen274 Жыл бұрын
You guys present an amazing program. Your skill level is eye-opening, and a joy to watch. Very good production.
@MrHeavy466
@MrHeavy466 Жыл бұрын
Henry, your M14 inspired me to create a clone of my own. I love my M21 and I love the reactions I get at the range with it. It was worth the kidney I sold to finance it.
@Rocketrich88
@Rocketrich88 Жыл бұрын
By far the coolest "Gun Dude" on KZfaq, well done...
@glennbayley5863
@glennbayley5863 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible video brilliant gentleman. Thank you very match.
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Жыл бұрын
The US should've gone with the FAL over the M14 back in the pre-Viet Nam acquisition days, full stop. That aside, the M14 and M1A and all their variants are fun to shoot. Nice run guys.
@sullybiker6520
@sullybiker6520 Жыл бұрын
You two just get better and better.
@Andrew--S
@Andrew--S Жыл бұрын
19:33 kitty cat roaming around enjoying the range
@michaelthrelkeld212
@michaelthrelkeld212 Жыл бұрын
Love the color content you guys put out
@ChadTheThrasher
@ChadTheThrasher Жыл бұрын
The innovation with the M14SE cannot be undersold. The consistent accuracy without bedding was a big improvement. The SEI built rifles in USGI Fiberglass stocks tend to hold their accuracy quite a bit better after tear down.
@Milkman3572000
@Milkman3572000 Жыл бұрын
It is still being utilized on the battle field. I am a M-14 fanboy so I enjoy Her quirks. Great Video. Lots of info and pics I have never seen.
@johnsmith-gk4td
@johnsmith-gk4td Жыл бұрын
Great video! I carried/used multiple variants over the years. I loved the system BUT it would not be my first pick when alternate systems became available. One of the main reasons for the M14 in the maritime environment was exactly what you said; availability. We need something between M16/M4 and the M2. The M60/M240 was the orginal answer but not the solution. After a study conducted by the Army in South Korea, their conclusion was the crew served weapons would cause too much damage when used with a built up harbor area that we needed to off load vital supplies. That was the original start in rethinking the viability re-fielding the M14. This was right before GWOT. We had a need, but no budget so we.....
@willy4869
@willy4869 Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed in the hopes of one day seeing a practical accuracy run with a HK PSG1.
@matthewnewman7187
@matthewnewman7187 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video on a great and still in use American made rifle!
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Жыл бұрын
Its an adverage rifle.
@juancolon123
@juancolon123 Жыл бұрын
My dudes, y’all can make a video about slingshots and I will still watch the hell out of it. I learn something new every time I watch a video and it is always a treat to listen to the debriefs. 👍
@williamsullivan479
@williamsullivan479 Жыл бұрын
Great show.
@jared5862
@jared5862 Жыл бұрын
I’m extremely happy to see you revisit this rifle. And with stellar results for the conditions. I’d LOVE to see you revisit the Mosin PU with a rifle where the scope is working properly. I would not even be opposed to possibly setting up something for you to run mine.
@M14armorer
@M14armorer Жыл бұрын
As someone who is surrounded by M14s & professional shooters i know how much skill is involved to run a 14 like that. Excellent work sir!
@versoarmamentcompany
@versoarmamentcompany Жыл бұрын
Great video
@fullm3taljacket
@fullm3taljacket Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I used to work for McMillan and found a manufacturing defect in that stock that they had been making for what, 45 years? That was actually my last official act when I was there.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS Жыл бұрын
what was the defect?
@30wrdy
@30wrdy 2 ай бұрын
@@GunFunZSBoeing hit man got to him
@Jr-qo4ls
@Jr-qo4ls Жыл бұрын
Great review.
@PARR53
@PARR53 Жыл бұрын
Badass! Love this weapon.
@ComradeCole
@ComradeCole Жыл бұрын
These intros man *chef's kiss*
@johnn8223
@johnn8223 Жыл бұрын
Truly, a Cannes worthy performance from Josh there.
@jimsiress9687
@jimsiress9687 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see it came together this time.
@goarmed
@goarmed Жыл бұрын
Love the old school Motorola Razr. Great video as always 👍🏻
@ReconScoutMedic
@ReconScoutMedic Жыл бұрын
I have converted my rifle into the M25 version. To avoid your concerns that you stated about losing POI when breaking down the weapon to clean. I ordered my McMillian M1A stock in the Ft Devens cut configuration. As when I sent my rifle to Jon Tank to install. Steel bedding block in to the Ft Devens in letting. When all was said and done the build took almost 10 years to the day. Below is a list of modified parts. NOTE the only original part on the rifle is the receiver. M25 SA receiver USGI gas system unitized and hand lapped with front ferrel fit to stock with vent hole drilled McMillian M1A stock with Ft. Devens cut Jon Tank steel bed liner Jon Tank NM Guide Rod USGI TRW trigger group tuned by Jon Tank USGI TRW OpRod tuned by Jon Tank USGI TRW Bolt headspaced by Bruce Dow USGI NM/2A rear site base WCE elevation knob GMI NM windage knob Bruce Dow Custom guide rod pin Shuster Gas Plug "Rooster 33 " (R33) extended bolt catch LMT 18" barrel Surefire 762 m14 supressor adaptor Surefire 762k supressor Smith Enterprises U.S.N. Mk14 SEI Gas Lock/ Front site Smith Enterprises M14 gas piston Smith Enterprises cheek piece Harris HBRM Bipod A.RM.S. #18 mount A.R.M.S. 22 low rings Leupold M4 with illuminated Ret w/ factory upgraded 1/4 MOA turrets
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 Жыл бұрын
The US Army: We adopted a new battle rifle that's in a large caliber for long range and hard hitting Vietnam vets: We were right all along!
@joshua3911
@joshua3911 Жыл бұрын
I’m 164 lbs 6’3”. Something inside me is drawn to the m1a/14/21 platform. I like to tell myself it’s because of the smooth, sleek, old fashioned look. Then reality reminds me I love’em heavy.
@marzcapone9939
@marzcapone9939 Жыл бұрын
Great video and info guys! Thanks I have an LRB M25, with heavy Krieger barrel and heavy McMillan stock. It is very accurate, and I still see a POI shift, to the left, at the end of a 20 round mag. That's firing once the steel stops swinging, or a few seconds between shots. It's a range rifle, too heavy for me to carry.
@MrJHDK
@MrJHDK Жыл бұрын
"When you gain the reliability that goes along with it, that is a factor that is much more desirable than that extra 2.4 inches" Henry Chan 2022
@MrJHDK
@MrJHDK Жыл бұрын
Sorry I couldn't resist 😋
@gideonschlen4022
@gideonschlen4022 Жыл бұрын
Australian special forces were using Mk14s in some capacity. Most notably Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts Smith was photographed with one
@Seb-Storm
@Seb-Storm Жыл бұрын
7:07 that cat be like "keep shooting don't mind me"
@Fugettaboutit
@Fugettaboutit Жыл бұрын
Love seeing the vapor trail, and then hearing a '....ding...'.
@AlwayzPr0
@AlwayzPr0 Жыл бұрын
One of my best childhood memories was my buddy getting codMW and us playing all ghillied up in the living room
@xnopyt13
@xnopyt13 Жыл бұрын
7:04 that cat gave zero fucks lol
@javasoldier5926
@javasoldier5926 Жыл бұрын
Its AWESOME!)) AWEEEESOME(with russian accent)! like you do a movies instead of practical vids. But IM here mostly about practical vids - they are priceless!
@saltlife2547
@saltlife2547 11 ай бұрын
Accuracy reliability and impressive kinetic energy beyond 300 yards.Truly amazing.
@PeterNissen878112
@PeterNissen878112 Жыл бұрын
Loved the beginning intro.
@alyxvance4492
@alyxvance4492 Жыл бұрын
ty sirs, love all of it :P
@sierratechnicaladvisorygroup
@sierratechnicaladvisorygroup Жыл бұрын
May not be the most modern platform but the mojo factor is off the charts.
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 11 ай бұрын
Well done.
@williamkillingsworth2619
@williamkillingsworth2619 Жыл бұрын
168smk 42gr imr4895 in mil brass. M852 clone. Shoots great!
@Jordan-ce7sf
@Jordan-ce7sf Жыл бұрын
Great video! My LRB M14 is an absolute tack driver. I think its very important to keep the M14 alive in the hearts of a new generation of Americans.
@Rowrin
@Rowrin Жыл бұрын
I love these transitional period type of weapons. You can see elements of the previous era's design philosophy being merged with the next age's. A lot of my favorite firearms come from these periods such as cartridge conversions guns between the eras of muzzle loaders and cartridges, the turn of the 20th century with early auto loaders where every design was very unique and different due to designers solving new problems in their own way, and today's redesigning / modernization of older weapons with newer optics/furniture to meet a use-case gap of the modern age. Firearms of these periods you can just look at how they were built and almost read the story like a book.
@Lt._Nut
@Lt._Nut Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! I have a Springfield M1a Loaded model and it’s one of the most accurate rifles I own. It’s nothing super fancy. It doesn’t have a McMillan stock and I have a Vortex Viper 6-24x and one of them Springfield muzzle breaks on it. I’ve gotten some pretty impressive groups with it. One day me and a buddy went to a local range that had steel plates out to just under 400 yards. They had some that were a little smaller than the size of a man’s head way out there, and to my amazement I actually nailed that little thing with that rifle. I know the M14/M1a is a mixed bag nowadays, but from my personal experience it’s an accurate and reliable rifle
@wglnaeclipse8715
@wglnaeclipse8715 Жыл бұрын
Great shooting and insights, as always! #newslettergang
@USn1njaSlayer
@USn1njaSlayer Жыл бұрын
Anyone else see the cat casually strolling behind Henry at 7:05
@rayfeltz8477
@rayfeltz8477 Жыл бұрын
Good idea redoing your vids. Definitely redo more of them as the debrief is a great addition.
He sees meat everywhere 😄🥩
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