Game of Thrones Rewrite - Episode 1: Tyrion Lannister

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Macabre Storytelling

Macabre Storytelling

5 жыл бұрын

(SPOILERS FOR BOTH THE SHOW AND BOOK SERIES!!!)
Episode one of Game of Thrones Rewrite has arrived.
The subject of ep. one is Tyrion Lannister. We break down Tyrion's arc from season 1 and restructure his development to give him a conclusion in Season 8 worthy of such a quality character and actor.
Be sure to comment below with your own critiques and insights!
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@calebjackson3895
@calebjackson3895 5 жыл бұрын
Another level of irony this would have added is that Tyrion would have lived up to his name “the Imp.” Imps in folklore (and D&D) are sneaky little devils who bond themselves to more powerful beings and drive them towards evil through power of suggestion.
@Shrooblord
@Shrooblord 5 жыл бұрын
omg yes
@popalupa4844
@popalupa4844 5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the point of Tyrion being the Imp that he’s a good person who’s mistaken for a monster?
@ThunderstruckElectronix
@ThunderstruckElectronix 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few of your videos now. Great content, im a huge nerd when it comes to literature and storytelling. And how great of a writer aren't George!
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink 4 жыл бұрын
@@popalupa4844 He isn't a very good person, he's certainly better than many other people and better than people think he is, but he's just as grey as the rest of them.
@acrazysheepdog1555
@acrazysheepdog1555 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@aria5614
@aria5614 5 жыл бұрын
"He's the villian of course," Oh my gosh that's GENUIS WHY DIDN'T THE SHOWRUNNERS USE THAT?!
@genericuser-1
@genericuser-1 5 жыл бұрын
Haha! Questioning why the showrunners didn't do something genius! That's good dude! 😂😂😂
@lowercase21
@lowercase21 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrion being good is the only thing I like about the last seasons but would be cool to see him evil I guess.
@yash124
@yash124 4 жыл бұрын
@@lowercase21 but they already ruined character in 4-5 season SO showing him killing deny would give as much as shock as deny burned whole kings landing
@jeckjeck3119
@jeckjeck3119 4 жыл бұрын
''that's GENUIS WHY DIDN'T THE SHOWRUNNERS USE THAT?'' You just answered your own question.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrion VS Varys... That would've been the battle to eclypse even the Cleganebowl!
@BasLindo
@BasLindo 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing symbolism in Tyrion killing her with the pin. Jaime had sworn his sword to Aerys, Tyrion had sworn his mind to Dany. The pin is a direct representation of this. They both betrayed their monarchs with what they had sworn to protect them with, in order to protect the realm. Canon worthy GRRM shit. It's unpredictable, yet feels totally meant to be
@helenl3193
@helenl3193 4 жыл бұрын
I also like the idea of it being an excellent, if not intentional, final f* you to his dad - a man so obsessed with the family's name and legacy, who will be remembered as the father of a mad queen and two sons who both broke vows to commit regicide! I feel like the irony would have tickled Tyrion in his cell.
@gravesyy6696
@gravesyy6696 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a really good re-write. The writers played it safe with Tyrion because he was so popular early in the show, and as a result he lost his edge. This would restore it! A Varys/Tyrion showdown would have given both of their characters a purpose that followed their arcs nicely
@rebornstillborn
@rebornstillborn 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I wish they would have let characters take their natural course instead of pandering to the viewers (who wanted a show that didn't pander to them). Bronn is another one I think, Arya's dark turn seems almost absent except for her Frey-pies which were never mentioned again. Didn't Jon and Sansa want to discuss what happened to those who killed their mother and brother and many more. Would they be disgusted and horrified once rumours spread that somebody had served human flesh to the Freys as punishment? Many missed plotlines :/
@Trowa71
@Trowa71 5 жыл бұрын
Is it sad that youtube has been making me far more satisfied with GoT ending than the show itself? The redemption at the end is brilliant, I love it, thank you.
@felixrae3460
@felixrae3460 2 жыл бұрын
it is sad that many fans and KZfaqrs can create a more satisfying and faithful ending than professional writers for one of the largest film companies in the world. 😕
@Trowa71
@Trowa71 2 жыл бұрын
@@felixrae3460 It's almost as if when a pure drive for maximizing profits isn't there, people make better art.
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 2 жыл бұрын
@@felixrae3460 double irony.
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 2 жыл бұрын
Though that isn't really say much.
@Joseph-lj4sp
@Joseph-lj4sp 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Tyrion vs Varys concept. Dany's fall to the dark side would be much more believable if she had a devil on her shoulder. Daario has that role in the books but in the show they never really did much of anything with it other than one or two lines.
@tnicole902
@tnicole902 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus this makes so much more sense. I'm going to pretend this is how it ended.
@amyliaclenny1866
@amyliaclenny1866 4 жыл бұрын
T Nicole: that makes us head-Canon junkies. 😁
@jesusdaniel_op
@jesusdaniel_op 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a problem with Danny's mad targaryen arc but this Tyrion arc would really fill a lot of plot holes and help with her character development
@RanMouri82
@RanMouri82 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It would make Dany going mad *believable* by giving her a close influence who is hellbent on steering her there.
@justsomeguyx.1645
@justsomeguyx.1645 4 жыл бұрын
Daenerys' mad Targaryen arc wasn't an arc but a sharp right turn into madness. When I was watching "The Joker" the film shows how Arthur becomes the Joker. We watch as he loses everything from his job to his identity to his supposed friends and "relationship". His only escape was The Murray Franklin Show but in the end when he is delighted to be a guest on Murray's show, he hears from backstage Murray and his panel make jokes at his expense, that was the last straw and he snapped and we believed it. What was Dany's snap moment? She heard bells? By the time she snapped she already won so there was no push over the edge into madness.
@suganthram7767
@suganthram7767 4 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguyx.1645 ah yes!!! Finally someone makes the joker reference comparing it to Dany....I was thinking exactly the same ...imagine with good writing we could have seen joker level descent to madness shit with Dany's story but .....(sighs)
@eleanormason2647
@eleanormason2647 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a problem with going mad/ becoming tyrannical because she's always had a thirst for power (needing the North to bend the knee even though she needed them as allies etc) and a knack for conquering yet trouble doing the peaceful ruling. She had this tragedy about her where she wants justice but has a terrible way on executing it. However, it didn't have enough development. She was on the way to going there, and had a lot of backstory/ premonitions to support it (e.g when she was in essos and went into the mages' tower and had that vision of a destroyed red keep). However there was no consistent follow up in the last season, it needed much more time and plot to get there, there was no development for her other than missandei's death and betrayal
@cody4763
@cody4763 4 жыл бұрын
They should have turned it into a strategic decision. If she let King's Landing resist, try to kill her dragons, and then just surrender peacefully after they failed, then every city would do that. Now that Westeros has the weapons to kill her dragons they'd all be taking the chance that they could kill it and win. But if they fail "Sorry! We surrender! lol" She would have to set an example that you either accept her as Queen or be destroyed immediately. I think that would make more sense bc in the show I didn't get any hint of her going that insane that quickly. I guess some people did though.
@leylastark3632
@leylastark3632 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a rewrite video about the littlefinger story arc?
@MacabreStorytelling
@MacabreStorytelling 5 жыл бұрын
Ooo that video is going to be a doozy. So many feelings of rage about how they did him...
@caiseyc1256
@caiseyc1256 5 жыл бұрын
Macabre Storytelling I would really like this because I just...purely can’t believe that LF would give up Sansa so easily to Bolton, not if he truly wanted the North. I just don’t.
@DocVanfox
@DocVanfox 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda liked how he ended up. He positioned himself into one of the seats of power he's always desired and he got caught up in being overly ambitious and plotting two sisters against each other like he's done before.
@nont18411
@nont18411 5 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger and Varys are the hardest characters to rewrite.
@katea6721
@katea6721 5 жыл бұрын
@@caiseyc1256 that's the part that never made any sense to me too, it flew in the face of one of the main points of his character, his creepy obsession with cat/sansa. just handing her over to a monster like that was completely off the rails.
@adiveler
@adiveler 5 жыл бұрын
Fans might not like it at first, but since this is Game of Thrones - a show that (used to) favor more character's development and deeds & consequences to progress the narrative, over fanservice; It would eventually be accepted and even praised as other early moments in the show!
@MacabreStorytelling
@MacabreStorytelling 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said!
@spartacist101
@spartacist101 5 жыл бұрын
Tsyha was brought up more than just once. It was mentioned in full in Season 1 as well as in Season Two (Tyrion and Bronn discussion) and Season Three (Tyrion defiantly says to Tywin “I was wed! Don’t you remember”). The show runners wanted to make Tyrion into a good character and as Dragon Demands states wanted to make Tywin not as bad as he is in the books coz David Benioff sees a lot of his father in Tywin. This is less obvious by worth a look at
@benderthepirate
@benderthepirate 4 жыл бұрын
JP Hamon-Cole wtf kind of dad did he have lol?!
@spartacist101
@spartacist101 4 жыл бұрын
@@benderthepirate He was a dick apparently. He was the chairman of the New York Federal Reserve Bank as well as a board member of Goldman Sachs. He was very around and didn't really show David any affection so, according to Dragon Demands, that's why Benioff saw so much of his father in Tywin Lannister (strong, powerful, distant man) but he also superimposed some other traits on Tywin which didn't fit his character in the books (helping Jamie get over his dyslexia, being grandfatherly with Arya in Harrenhal, etc) because Benioff deeply believed his father loved him but coz he was powerful he couldnt show it to him. In reality, his dad was just an arsehole who didn't really bother paying attention to his family over his work.
@maracheno
@maracheno 5 жыл бұрын
PAUSE! PAUSE! PAUSE!!! Literally paused the video at 16:49!! Omg! Varys vs Tyrion would have been EXCELLENT!!! Spectacular! Battle of wits, angel and devil on each shoulder! Phenomenal!! So glad this popped up on my feed! New subscriber!!! Wow! My mind is blown 🤯
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 4 жыл бұрын
not really. i think Varys should be kept as dark as his book counterpart. both should work together to bring fire and blood for each of their chosen claimants. you can stil have Tyrion vs Varys but in the sense of Aegon vs Dany happening at the same time
@Cookie12670
@Cookie12670 5 жыл бұрын
All of this made total sense. I would’ve been so happy if the writers would’ve gone this way with Tyrion. Peter Dinklage’s acting would’ve been supreme at the moment he realizes that he has to kill Dany to save many innocent others.
@fallendeus5641
@fallendeus5641 Жыл бұрын
They didn't go that way because the author of the series told them things that are going to happen at the end of the story. Jon killing dany is one of them.
@someguy43210
@someguy43210 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty good, I like it a lot more than the actual show's writing.
@sardonically-inclined7645
@sardonically-inclined7645 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you went overboard in comparing the show to the books
@Skye_Writer
@Skye_Writer 4 жыл бұрын
You know, the fact that Tywin comes back and strips Tyrion of all his power, it occurs to me that Tywin sent him there to begin with assuming he'd f--- things up, and as soon as Tywin found out that Stannis was riding for KL, Tywin was hot on Stannis' heels, expecting to find the city near panic and ruin and Tywin could ride in and save the whole place and everyone would be begging him to take charge (possibly even stand in for Joff, too, until the boy reached adulthood, giving Ty ALL the power). Instead, he found a city well-defended and the people in fairly good shape, and he said "Aw HELLS no...this will never do." I think he stripped Tyrion of his power and his glory (actively undermining and downplaying Tyrion's part in the whole thing while he was recuperating so there was no one to argue the point) because he knew that Tyrion was MUCH too smart and too dangerous to Tywin if he had that much control. For all that Tywin always snubbed and ridiculed Tyrion, I fully believe he FEARED him even more, because he KNEW this was the one child who was as cold and calculating as he was himself, and the one child who could unseat him from power.
@brockbd77
@brockbd77 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly really excited about the coming videos man. I absolutely loved your Tyrion video.
@Michael-iw7pz
@Michael-iw7pz 5 жыл бұрын
I think the weird mention of elephants from Cersei is a sort of bending of the knee to Lord of the Rings and Pellenor fields, which included elephants in the last big battle of the trilogy. Reference the book all you want, god knows it'll provide some guidance on how this series went so wrong.
@97pd48epbh
@97pd48epbh 5 жыл бұрын
I also think in the scene it's mentioned in, she's talking about the battle and those elephants before being interrupted by Euron Greyjoy. He does his whole conquering hero shpeel and she gives herself to him as a reward like he wanted. But directly after that she's back to musing over things she wants. Which at this point is Jamie safe and to crush her opponents in the most extravagant and spirit breaking way as only she can do. Remember one of the things she taught Sansa was to learn to use her body as a weapon to win over men.
@cosmoreverb3943
@cosmoreverb3943 4 жыл бұрын
20:35 Tyrion: "You're the only one that was ever nice to me. Don't come to school tomorrow."
@Fantaploup
@Fantaploup 4 жыл бұрын
The Dothraki would kill Tyrion on sight immediately after he kills Dany since they are all her bloodriders. Other than that it's amazing !
@sabrinamcclain162
@sabrinamcclain162 5 жыл бұрын
I liked the part of A Dance with Dragons where Tyrion has a dream in which he's a 2 headed monster, and one of the heads is killing Jaime and doesn't even notice that the other head is crying
@parsnippal1754
@parsnippal1754 4 жыл бұрын
“Especially since I want to make sure the scripts are non-rushed and of high quality” oof man
@OhShiverMeTimbers
@OhShiverMeTimbers 5 жыл бұрын
I'd personally love to see this storyline play out. It's so much more natural. There's conflict between characters we like, questionable actions making us question our own morals and who we really stand with, which is what made us fans in the beginning. It was all so bland and easy in the final episodes, no heads butting, maybe a little worry, but no wonder, and that's a problem. And it would give SO much more meaning to Varys' otherwise worthless death. As it stands, Tyrion turned him over for what? Pure loyalty to the queen? He had no agendas of his own? He's much too cynical and smart a character to be so blindly loyal to someone with so much power. Even being rushed, even with the immense pressure of living up to the hype, I believe I could've resolved this series much better EVEN if I only had 8 episodes.
@jesseoreilly1792
@jesseoreilly1792 4 жыл бұрын
It would be heartbreaking to see a good character turn bad, yes. But it was more heartbreaking to see a smart and interesting character turn stupid and boring. I like your ideas.
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 5 жыл бұрын
Varys and Tyrion are two of my top 5 favorite characters, both show and books. A season 7 like you just described would have been too awesome to describe. Dany's id and superego locked in a battle of wits and morality.
@WealthofMyself
@WealthofMyself 5 жыл бұрын
I know!! Talk about the heart at war with itself.
@LukeJones-ib5mq
@LukeJones-ib5mq 3 жыл бұрын
Yesh tysha was such a big plot point in the books! The show definitely should've included it! I'm sure Tyrion mentions her to Tywin in S3 so it wouldn't have been completely out of left field
@politicide
@politicide 4 жыл бұрын
That lisp joke, hahaha. Massive respect, brother✊
@bobafett9348
@bobafett9348 5 жыл бұрын
Care to make a rewrite of first character ruined by D&D ? That is One True King Stannis Baratheon.
@filipferencak2717
@filipferencak2717 5 жыл бұрын
Every character in Dorne was ruined as soon as they appeared, so I'd say Doran Martell and Areo Hotah were the first.
@everyman1983
@everyman1983 4 жыл бұрын
It's been done 👍
@NoshuHyena
@NoshuHyena 5 жыл бұрын
I love everything except him killing Dany. I still think that should be Jon's job. But he can still get redemption by doing pretty much what he does in the show at that point: refuses to be Hand, gets thrown in the dungeon, and then serves as the tipping point for Jon to do his duty, fulfilling his redemption by using the very skill that caused the mess in the first place: persuasion.
@fran3ro
@fran3ro 5 жыл бұрын
I think in the books he will want what is his rightful heritage: Casterly Rock and the leadership of house Lannister and the Westerlands. Also think what he really want is to be, if not loved, at least accepted and / or respected.
@stephaniespain9849
@stephaniespain9849 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@SkodaZek
@SkodaZek 4 жыл бұрын
it has been years since I have read the books now, but I seem to remember that after Jamie confesses to Tyrion about Tysha, Tyrion lies to Jamie claiming he did in fact kill Joffrey in order to similarly hurt his brother.
@abenerice
@abenerice 4 жыл бұрын
I think the showrunners omitted the Tysha confession, not because no-one remembers her, but because it would have been so traumatic and dark. Actually the confession in the book, and the story behind it, is so horrid that it completely breaks Tyrion's mind, making him obsessed with finding her, and losing his rational mind (he looks for the place "where whores go" : he follows his father's answer to his question, seemingly not realising it is not a proper clue for finding his lost love. he doesn't make his own investigation, or pay someone to do it, he just clings to Twin's dismissive answer, he takes it at face value, hoping that when he finds "where whores go", he will find his lost love... ). The constrast between the premises of their romance, a sign of hope that people can love in spite of everything (his appearance, their disparity in birth), and the horrid destroying of it all, is one of the most traumatic elements of GRRM's books for me. As a matter of fact, I am under the impression that the show basically shows "whores" being... I don't know, desensitised or something? Whereas if you look into it, in the books just as in reality, most women in brothels are not willing to be there (i.e. in their personal experience, the sex they have is akin to rape. Men do not se it this way, but to the women, it is undesired sex, basically rape, and they are just as free as slaves or prisonners of war). Brothels and whores are a way for the show to include nudity and sex without the guilt and grim darkness of the world. The books tend to show us this : women in brothels have been raped and abused and given no other choice, or are there because it is the only way to escape brutal rape and murder, and their reality is just as horrid as any other victim of war crimes. And Tysha is just the epitome of this logic (a woman having been the victim of circumstances, or crimes, or twisted schemes, has no other choice than being victim of unwanted sex for the rest of her life). Which would make the show much more political on this level, and maybe guilt-tripping the audience... and much darker anyway : Tysha's story is so sad, hopeless, and beyond any hope of redemption (or even, closure, as it shows in the books, there is no way to know of her eventual fate in the vast world). This is my opinion on why they deleted it. What do you think? And I agree : your storyline for Tyrion makes sense in the light of it, and your rewrites are just brilliant! Thanks for all that. Please keep it up. (I am re-watching your rewrites, after the new one) Cheers!
@Aaarandom
@Aaarandom 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly l loved how you kept referencing back to the book
@whitleypedia
@whitleypedia 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for highlighting the "tender spot" bit. There's no way that this Tyrion would spend 4 years making fun of Varys for having been brutally mutilated.
@o0Avalon0o
@o0Avalon0o 4 жыл бұрын
The new ending gave me goosebumps; That's crazy
@mra4521
@mra4521 4 жыл бұрын
(Edit): This changes Tyrion from being an allusion to Richard III to cycling through being first Iago then Mary Macbeth and finally Brutus. Bravo!
@teddypunch
@teddypunch 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrion killed Dany with the Hand of the King Pin, and he strangled Shae with the Hand of the King necklace. Damn.
@jazwhoaskedforthis
@jazwhoaskedforthis 3 жыл бұрын
Tyrion “catch these hands” Lannister
@Blairskirock
@Blairskirock 5 жыл бұрын
That Verys-Tyrion battle of wits concept is something I actually hurt to have not gotten.
@jazwhoaskedforthis
@jazwhoaskedforthis 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. D&D didn’t have the brain power to make a battle of the wits between Tyrion and Varys worth a darn
@Skyvsfate
@Skyvsfate 5 жыл бұрын
That was amazing 👏👏 and i would have loved that in show form. I think a lot of fans would have. And i never knew George r.r Martin said Tyrion was a villain. I just heard that he was his favorite character. Changes every thing.
@catfoy8888
@catfoy8888 4 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair originally jaime was supposed to sit the iron throne so things change
@danielfake8269
@danielfake8269 4 жыл бұрын
Just a little thing I noticed, I just watched Narnia Prince Caspian and Peter Dinklage is in it. His first scene is him, tied up, and is being thrown out of a boat into the water and literally there’s a short scene of him sinking down and I swear it mimics the exact scene in the show when they are in Valyria with Jorah.
@breakingbadheisenberg9703
@breakingbadheisenberg9703 5 жыл бұрын
Can only hope for George rr to finish writing and give these characters there just endings .
@MrEcae
@MrEcae 5 жыл бұрын
23:29 how he gonna reach her neck tho....
@RanMouri82
@RanMouri82 5 жыл бұрын
If they're on stairs or Dany bends toward him.
@summushieremiasclarkson4700
@summushieremiasclarkson4700 4 жыл бұрын
She's quite short too. He's not as short as he seems. I reckon about 4 inches from his shoulder to her neck, easily achieved.
@summushieremiasclarkson4700
@summushieremiasclarkson4700 4 жыл бұрын
To add on, from the actors' bios, he is 4'4", and she, 5'2". Her neck would be at 4'6" at the most then.
@suganthram7767
@suganthram7767 4 жыл бұрын
@@brookesjunkemail1133 lol🤣🤣🤣 with his short legs he can't jump that high though
@yd-tn9rg
@yd-tn9rg 3 жыл бұрын
Tyrion did a quadruple backflip front flip handstand when he met Jon at Winterfell in the books, he coulda reached her neck with those acrobatics
@samuelgardner1069
@samuelgardner1069 5 жыл бұрын
Tyrion does comment on Myrcella’s death when they’re all standing around the painted table at DragonStone... I forget what is said verbatim, but he says something to Elaria along the lines of “No, we don’t kill innocent little girls,” in response to something she says. At the end of Season 6, or early Season 7 obviously before they get their shit packed by Euron out at sea.
@MacabreStorytelling
@MacabreStorytelling 5 жыл бұрын
Great catch! Just revisited that scene and you are correct... although it is quite odd that Tyrion, while he's pissed, isn't absolutely livid with Elaria. I would think, regardless of their uneasy alliance at this point, Tyrion would see to it she would be dealt with... although Cersei did a hell of a job.
@samuelgardner1069
@samuelgardner1069 5 жыл бұрын
Macabre Storytelling haha man I couldn’t agree more. They DEFINITELY should’ve made him say a lot more about that situation, and show WAY more emotion about that situation. I just remembered that scene and remembered him saying a line or two (I think it was legit just ONE line...but could be wrong), so I don’t hold it against you for not thinking of it haha. Enjoyed your re-script tho. Now that there’s no more Thrones (on television), and it’ll take George forever to release Winds, this being my favorite property of ALL time, I’m still like a drug addict FEENING for some content, so I love this type of stuff. I could talk/listen GoT all day haha
@nourharrak3573
@nourharrak3573 5 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video man! Loved your take on this, i adore the parallel of a lannister killing a targaryen to save the people between Jaime and Tyrion, and I love that you focus on keeping Tyrion smart and cunning, as the show sort of robbed him of that post season 6. Keep it up man, can’t wait for the future videos
@egvillaproductions4112
@egvillaproductions4112 5 жыл бұрын
It’s almost painful.... how much better this simple change is than the entirety of season 8
@rebornstillborn
@rebornstillborn 5 жыл бұрын
How about a bonus video, about the Golden Company? Since they were a small part of the show it might not be as long as the others but damn, they need something to not be completely pointless in the show. Great job man!
@elishaso
@elishaso 4 жыл бұрын
GRRM did say that Tyrion was the villain once. No matter how you interpret that, it's still more 3d than whatever Tyrion got in the past couple seasons. He did NOT deserve to be dumbed down like that.
@Kalahridudex
@Kalahridudex 4 жыл бұрын
8:40 "I should have let stannis kill you all, I wish I had enough poison for the whole pack of you!" Daenerys: say no more!
@JT826
@JT826 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice work, dude. Better than what we got.
@i8rmnky
@i8rmnky 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, but a major void that is still missing from the D&D penned show is the influence of Tywin Lannister. For 4 seasons, Tywin ruled the 7 Kingdoms, not the king. Tywin shrewdly manipulated other leaders and the King and did so with his pen and trading on other people’s motivations. The Red Wedding was a master negotiation that destroyed the Starks and brought the Freys and Boltons into the fold. Whether it was evil was a matter of perspective. It was evil to the Starks/North, but ended a war and saved countless lives. With Tywin out of the picture, Tyrion had the opportunity and the skills to be the new Tywin behind the scenes for Dany. Everyone wants the throne, but Tyrion knows where the power really resides. Tyrion has Tywin’s political skills and he watched Tywin in action. Tyrion doesn’t have the respect that Tywin had, so he needs to be more calculated. He could bring Dany new allies (Dorne/Martel/Greyjoy) and at least cause others to question their loyalties to Cersei (e.g., the Iron Bank). His motivations aren’t evil, but include calculated, message sending bloodshed. He is motivated to kill Cersei and knows the people of Kings Landing are worthless pawns in his political maneuvering. He is nothing, the Imp, sentenced to death, and he is motivated to be the man Tywin despised while tearing down everything that Tywin built. Tyrion could bring Dany into Season 7 with the political might to match her army. The final conflict is that Dany saw Tyrion’s diplomacy as a way to the throne but not to lead (she wants to break the wheel of the old ways) and Tyrion can’t control her the way Tywin could manipulatable Tommen and Joffrey. Summary-Your rewrite with Tyrion using his skills to step into the Tywin role behind the scenes; he is not respected so it poses additional challenges to overcome; his motivations aren’t pure evil but calculated against his enemies (Cersei/Tywin) and the people he doesn’t care about personally or politically (people of Kings Landing).
@brooketrotter18
@brooketrotter18 5 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of this series. Keep it up!
@kkilljoy3588
@kkilljoy3588 3 жыл бұрын
Dang this is good. I’ve watched a number of these and found them various degrees of satisfying. This is the first I’ve found riveting, surprising yet logically consistent w character motivations, and satisfying. I’m obv incredibly late to this party, but your channel is new to me. Thanks for the great content. I cannot wait to watch your other GOT char rewrite vids!
@mimimurlough
@mimimurlough 4 жыл бұрын
This is so good! The only thing I would add is that Tyrion has one other motivation: his need for love that first blinds him to what Shae really is and then drives him across the sea in a fruitless search for Tysha. This is a major character arc that most people overlook, but I think it is important, since it ties in really well with Dany's underused yearning for a home and a place to belong. Jon and Dany make a pretty couple, but theme wise Dany and Tyrion make more sense. It gives him more leverage to corrupt her and ties them tighter together than just political allies. It also offers a conflict to their joint arc - follow their baser instincts to wreak havoc on Westeros or peace out and go for the quiet life both always wanted.
@Timberwolf410
@Timberwolf410 5 жыл бұрын
Would fans have liked it? Uh, I would've! I thought for the longest time that Tyrion was going to team up with Dany to burn the people who had wronged him at the trial, since he CLEARLY stated that he would gladly kill them all after they dragged him through the mud like that. But nah, he gets to Dany's front door and he's super chill and turning his resume to be hand of the Queen just because. And I personally think Peter Dinklege would've LOVED to play a darker side of Tyrion. Can't wait to see your Dany and Jon videos! (:
@amaliaforce
@amaliaforce 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna go ahead and pretend this is what really happened. Makes way more sense, and is thus so much more satisfying. Well done, mate, keep it up!
@sethcourtad8733
@sethcourtad8733 2 жыл бұрын
I'm imagining a reveal from Varys that tywin played a similar role in the Mad King's Court. As hand to the king, Tywin was in prime real estate for pushing the King towards madness, and it would make sense. Especially with how quickly and adeptly Tywin starts directing Prince Tommen.
@speedrrracer
@speedrrracer 5 жыл бұрын
If I have your position straight, it seems as though you're confusing Tyrion's hatred of the nobility / ruling class (who are present during his trial) for hatred of [all humans in King's Landing]. Tyrion has no beef with the common people, his heroics in saving the city support that (if he hated everyone, why save them, but if he only hates the few, then those actions make perfect sense). This would also support a motivation for a replacement for that ruling class, hence the support for Dany, as well as his later actions in condemning Dany after she burns the common folk of King's Landing. Oh, and your idea for a re-write, Tyrion v Varys is a great idea. Go for the fan fiction and do it up completely.
@Wveth
@Wveth 4 жыл бұрын
The idea is that he didn't hate all the people of King's Landing until they turned against him after he is accused of killing Joffrey. They do hate him, because they're fucking fickle and easily led, and he knows that.
@Zorcon741
@Zorcon741 4 жыл бұрын
You could argue either way. Tiron is mocked early on as hand in the books as the "little monkey demon pulling the king's strings," basically that he's the reason why Joffreys rule is bad.
@JodesDaPhee
@JodesDaPhee 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is brilliant! This would have been so much better and it fits the characters (in both book and show). I salute you, ser! Especially because of Varys who was my favourite character. You did him justice! I look forward to the next one! ❤
@adrienconverset6571
@adrienconverset6571 5 жыл бұрын
"Would the fans have liked it" Which part ? The one where characters actually make decisions based on their motives ? Or the one that allows for morally ambiguous characters to stay shady like in the early seasons ? It's like asking if fans liked the red wedding. No we didn't. We hated it. But we loved the way every characters' decisions has led to this point, and that this is the obligatory yet still unexpected way to conclude this mess. I think we can agree on one thing : we may hate or love moments in a movie/serie. But it doesn't correlate with how satisfying it is. The red wedding was satisfying, Ned's execution was satisfying, Dany emerging from the pyre with the cute dragons was satisfying. Arya brutally murdering Meryn was satisfying. Brienne and Sansa reuniting early season 6 was satisfying. Because these were logical developments. Dany going mad over bells ? Jon somehow surviving after killing dany while Greyworm executes prisonners ? A lot of S8 ? doesn't make sense, and regardless of the "wow" effect, they don't come as satisfying.
@L0wallyn
@L0wallyn 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these story changes! Thank you for the wonderful content!
@qu33flatina
@qu33flatina 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm sorry, killed in a tragic elephant accident." 🤣
@TonySinc
@TonySinc 5 жыл бұрын
The next horror film should be named “fire and blood” -Daenerys Targaryen
@Conan_the_Based
@Conan_the_Based 5 жыл бұрын
How long did it take you to come up with this narrative? I only ask because it took D&D years to come up with the drivel they did.
@YON_RO
@YON_RO 5 жыл бұрын
If you honestly think they spent more than a single lunch break at Starbucks churning the shit they did out, get checked
@insaneweasel1
@insaneweasel1 5 жыл бұрын
@@YON_RO they churned it out in a taco bell toilet.
@RedgraveGilver
@RedgraveGilver 5 жыл бұрын
This channel have much potential! Good job!
@ZaidPhyre
@ZaidPhyre 5 жыл бұрын
STILL LIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@Skye_Writer
@Skye_Writer 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap...I LOVE this theory, and it makes so much more sense for both Tyrion AND Varys
@nont18411
@nont18411 5 жыл бұрын
Please do a video about rewriting White Walkers’ arc. I mean no character has been destroyed by season 8 as much as the Night King.
@gisapenguin2458
@gisapenguin2458 5 жыл бұрын
This was so good, thank you for this. I’m absolutely excited for the following videos.
@abelpap5313
@abelpap5313 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I just discovered your channel and have fallen in love with your content, gonna binge watch the GoT rewrite series
@sofifarias1611
@sofifarias1611 5 жыл бұрын
Now this is a series i'm actually looking foward to see. Great job man!
@darkomen1290
@darkomen1290 3 жыл бұрын
time to rewatch this whole series! stoked for the last one and the recap video at the end :) legit fav content on youtube atm
@virgovirtuoso
@virgovirtuoso 5 жыл бұрын
I think your ending of this rewrite is FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC, love it!
@crimsonclaw8145
@crimsonclaw8145 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh you mentioning the lisp made me notice it and now I can’t unhear it Still great video
@gumbogambit
@gumbogambit 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done, wonderful insight!
@alannamichellebova
@alannamichellebova 5 жыл бұрын
I love these! Thankyou for putting in the time and effort to make these videos!
@deed7964
@deed7964 5 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely excellent. Very excited for the upcoming videos
@demon13doc
@demon13doc 5 жыл бұрын
I feel that in the book it will be Ser Selmy being the angel on her shoulder to Tyrion's devil
@SwfanredLotr
@SwfanredLotr 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the devil would be Daario
@lecoutcritique8854
@lecoutcritique8854 5 жыл бұрын
To me you have missed the whole point of tyrion's speech in his trial. The whole point is "I wish I was". That's the voice and feel of his heart talking. Taisha's confession really is the turning point, but Tyrion wouldn't blame the common people of king's landing, because he know how easy the minds of common people are easily manipulated; his family though? Maybe he could forgive Jaime... but Jaime'd rather see him dead after Tywin's death. Tyrion is fondamentaly a good being, which would end up being the wrong things for grieve wounds to his heart, but to the point of him not making any distinction between the noble of king's landing and it's population? I don't think so. Could he entice Dany to burn the red keep? Definitly. Would she agree? No, the throne is inside and the red keep itself is a testimony of her heritage, not counting the room with the dragon skulls which she could consider like her family. Could it be transferred to King landing's people ? Maybe, after all she heard the were free, and still serving Cersei: meaning a cultural mishap could happen having been raised to the dothraki culture, a system of value totally different from Westeros'. That doesn't change the fact his intelligence, cunning and political awareness vanishes after season 4-5 (then again his political awareness should be a bit lower in foreign land, he isn't a trained ambassador), to the straight point of being dumb at season 7-8. Tyrion have the potential to become a baddy, but the serial miss a LOT of interaction with nonames blaming him, belittling him (and even then... how would that be different from his past?) since serial "kind of forget" that such interaction where the heart of it : just for Tyrion himself (and non exhaustive list), Bronn is a noname from start, Shae too, the savages he recruit are still nonames, the alchemists of king's landing, the slave traders capturing him... And then none. Past season 5 the world become shrinked, empty and mostly descriptive : the mirin rebellion is more like an "natural catastrophe" in it's treatment, nothing personal is involved, and the vaccum create an even bigger void. I really like your redemption style killing Dany, it makes a great deal of sense, I'd like you to treat the Bronn subject too, since it's relation to Tyrion is one of the most important. As for varys, to me it's not a good thing for him to die at all (since their is no way he would be waiting still in his room to die... at the very least the onion knight couls smugle him out).
@thewallcometh1444
@thewallcometh1444 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever you were going through a year ago, I hope all is well now. One love, brother. 💚
@Luuuna
@Luuuna 4 жыл бұрын
While the Dorne storyline was one of my favourites from the books, I'll admit that it would be very hard to fit into a world where Arianne, Quentyn, (f)aegon and Jon Connington don't exist
@LusiaEyre
@LusiaEyre 7 ай бұрын
That's true. But maybe they could've condensed it to using "Myrcella as Queen" as the main part of Doran's current plan? Since they cut out two of his children, there's no spare to send to Dany... so maybe if they made Doran try and make his son the consort and father to future kings by placing Myrcella on the throne? And maybe playing under the table at sending someone to Dany if maybe she would marry Trystane instead? Just in case the Lady with Dragon's says yes?
@CasieMod
@CasieMod 5 жыл бұрын
This change in his character would hurt but make sense. I would be upset with Tyrion but not the writer because that is the difference between writing the character in a way that flows versus doing so in a way that doesn't. I'm looking forward to the rest of these rewrites.
@Timetodeflate
@Timetodeflate 5 жыл бұрын
So smart and well done. So excited to see your next videos and your thoughts!!
@maritzamedrano537
@maritzamedrano537 3 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say if your rewrites were what we received in the actual show I would have been SOOOOO satisfied.
@Shrooblord
@Shrooblord 5 жыл бұрын
I love these. The previous video was very thoughtful, and didn't expect to see more awesomeness in this vein. Super cool! Subscribed. Can't wait to see the next installment.
@michaelhenman4887
@michaelhenman4887 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, really looking forward to the rest of the series!
@RD-un5bh
@RD-un5bh 4 жыл бұрын
great job! ty for the time you put into this!!
@alaskancat
@alaskancat 5 жыл бұрын
Love this! Definitely subscribing so I can hear what you have on the other characters. Thanks for a great video 😊
@palacerevolution2000
@palacerevolution2000 Жыл бұрын
Excellent layout, and imagination. Made so much more sense, added drama, and depth.
@henrychinaski5938
@henrychinaski5938 4 жыл бұрын
Love it ! Subscribed. Can't wait to go thru the entire series of vids , keep the content coming .
@TheClassicalSauce
@TheClassicalSauce 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. I enjoy hearing your literary analysis. You have a good grasp of the fundamentals of drama. Subbed.
@NoNameBagu
@NoNameBagu 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man, excited to see the channel grow!
@art_of_beelz
@art_of_beelz 5 жыл бұрын
This makes so much more sense! Amazing video!
@scarlettebelle3094
@scarlettebelle3094 5 жыл бұрын
This video rocked hard! Can’t wait for the next ones. I only wish Tyrion’s character arc had gone even slightly darker, or better yet all the way as you suggested. That would be an ending to Dani and all of his enemies that I could have gotten behind. Great insight! Can’t wait to read your first novel...?!?!
@mobiusstripper7279
@mobiusstripper7279 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I can feel myself healing already. You're a good man.
@oneslikeme
@oneslikeme 4 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant rewrite. So many things make much more sense. If the writers were confident in the writing, they could have written Tyrion in a way that was still sympathetic. People love characters even when they are villains because there is balance in the writing. Well done, my friend! Subscribed and hoping the rest of your rewrite series is just a perfect.
@meimeiday
@meimeiday 5 жыл бұрын
So good! Excellent story telling!
@OldenPage
@OldenPage 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, this was seriously great. Good job.
@casperaaron5530
@casperaaron5530 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Hope you're feeling better now, I loved your last vid and this one is fantastic too. Keep it up!
@tinaahaa
@tinaahaa 5 жыл бұрын
Loving these rewrites! Can't wait to see the rest! :D Keep it up!
@VeracityLH
@VeracityLH 5 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely brilliant, well thought out, much better than what D&D came up with. Even provided the bittersweet ending GRRM promised through our favourite character. When you write your novel, I want to read the ARC, then buy the first copy.
@davidlane1248
@davidlane1248 5 жыл бұрын
I very much like this arc of Tyrion you're proposing It is entirely true that Tyrion going full Darkside would've upset fans, but that's the power of good writing. A good story about the complexities of characters means that not following clean guidelines to "love good guy hate bad guy". That's generic and stereotypical. I don't think, however, it's necessary to wait until the last minute to make Tyrion the hand of the queen. But the symbolism of Tyrion murdering Dany with his own Hand of the Queen pin is much more fitting(and would've made fantastic throat murder spectacle) than Drogon burning the throne Also, you keep mispronouncing Lord Varys' name lol. Otherwise, love the content
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