Macintosh SE Reloaded BUILD [Part 1]
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Күн бұрынHave a battery-bombed Macintosh SE logic board? Watch me solder new components to a beautiful new motherboard! (Part II & later videos are here: bit.ly/3xHSp02 )
[ Special thanks to Kai Robinson for making this possible. ]
🔎 INDEX
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Historical Tidbits & Mac Plus Comparison
4:17 - Purpose of the SE Reloaded Build
6:42 - Two SE logic board types
9:11 - The Build
10:35 - 0.1uF ceramic capacitor install
14:56 - ⚠️C67 WARNING! (H-sync) DON'T INSTALL!
18:15 - C18, C19 & C40 install
21:47 - Resistor install
28:54 - L1 & L4 install
31:06 - Axial capacitor ESR check & install
42:06 - RP1 & RP2 install
43:47 - Q1 transistor install
44:40 - Closing words & Thanks
🗣️ SE Reloaded discussion on TinkerDifferent: bit.ly/3yLLjJ0
🛒 BUY
• (Mouser Cart in "My BOM" under "📚 REFERENCE" below.)
• SE Reloaded board from MacEffects (red): bit.ly/39yehBv
• Lead-forming tool (if you don't want to eye-it like me): amzn.to/3G0Sejb
• 10x Loupe: amzn.to/3tW1lf0
• 5x/11x Magnifier: amzn.to/3lGogXI
• Torx T15 with LONG neck (to open Mac): amzn.to/2ScAskx
• Hakko Soldering Station (Fisher Price colors): amzn.to/3ArxBJ6
💁♂️TIP: Use 350°C & Leaded solder.
• Solder (Leaded Rosin Core 1.6mm): amzn.to/3IGuxxm
• Solder (Leaded Rosin Core 0.8mm): amzn.to/3GzJbVl
• 2-spool Solder Holder: amzn.to/39hIMbt
• AMTECH 559 "V2" Flux (flawed plunger): amzn.to/3Muf4C2
• MG Chemicals Flux (great plunger): amzn.to/3kuAcsZ
• Desoldering wick: amzn.to/3iMAnA5
• DE-5000 Handheld LCR Meter (Amazon US): amzn.to/2ScttJz
The best handheld meter to check capacitor ESR. Includes all 3 accessories: TL-21, TL-22 & TL-23.
(If Amazon is out of stock, please check EBAY.)
• Fume Extractor: amzn.to/3MApWyb
• 99% ISO Alcohol (Spray Bottle!): amzn.to/3ae4fG6
• 99% ISO Alcohol: amzn.to/3NoFkxN
• 99% ISO Alcohol: amzn.to/2MkjS3h
💁♂️I gave you 3 alcohol choices above because it's often out of stock. 70% will work, 91% is better, but 99% is best for electronics cleaning (fast drying & no residue).
💵 NOTE: Your price on Amazon (US only) is the same even if you don't click the "amzn.to" Affiliate links above, but if you do click & purchase within 24 hours, Amazon may pay me a small commission on qualifying items in your Cart.
📚 REFERENCE
• My BOM (newer than the paper version in my video): bit.ly/3MF7BA9
• Kai's BOM: bit.ly/3G2H6lA
• Kai's Main Github page: bit.ly/3wD3DkM
• Kai's videos on the SE Reloaded: bit.ly/3yQqOea
• Mac SE Service Source Manual: bit.ly/3MykhsC
• Guide to Macintosh Family Hardware: bit.ly/3lv4xLc
• Unitron Mac512: bit.ly/3sNerMa
• AppleWorld 1987 video: bit.ly/3sNed7z
• Computer Chronicles video on the SE: • The Computer Chronicle...
• Motherboard Horror Pics 😱: bit.ly/3LxK2Yw
🙏 MY SINCERE THANKS to these recent Paypal contributors (April & May 2022):
• Philippe from France
• Joe Williams (previous supporter)
• 2dfx
• Daniel from Hawaii
• Mauro Acciaccaferri (monthly supporter)
🙇♂️ SPECIAL THANKS to some great people at the TinkerDifferent forum who kindly submitted motherboard photos for me to consider using in my video: bit.ly/3MDF5ih
💰HOW TO SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL
www.paypal.me/supportJDW
(If you do very kindly donate, it would be a wonderful help if you could let me know if I have permission to use your full name, or use something like John in Texas, when I give you public thanks in a future video. Pronunciation help is also appreciated!)
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🎶 Music Credits
• Defense Matrix, CC BY-SA 3.0, by Vyra: bit.ly/3lx9W4h
• そんな感じ feat. 初音ミク (That Kind of Feeling feat. Hatsune Miku. Instrumental version), CC BY-SA 3.0, by Vyra: bit.ly/3lAKfjn
• Stay The Night by Arthur Vyncke | / arthurvost
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• Darkest Before Dawn, CC BY-SA 4.0, by TEKNOAXE: bit.ly/3lDFYLP
• Human Among Us, CC BY-SA 4.0, by TEKNOAXE: bit.ly/3LzEsVS
• Atari Upgrade, CC BY-SA 4.0, by TEKNOAXE: bit.ly/3a9mwUR
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@JDW- 11 ай бұрын
Friends, SE Reloaded creator, Kai Robinson, is going through hard times in Aug. 2023. If any of you can help, his GoFundMe page is here: gofund.me/6c3f6563
@buserror 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, go out and spend the money on the best desoldering tool you can get. You will NEVER survive with just wick! At the very least get one of these self-heated solder pump, but get a 'gun' if you can, again, trust me, it makes life a LOT easier! Oh also, to solder thru hole components, get some blue-tack! But the component(s) in, add a blob of blue tack over it, turn the board and magic, components don't fall off 🙂 I have Kai's 20/20 board 1.5. I also have a 1.3 'wall art' failed prototype, I tried to help fund him as he worked on it. Amazing work :-)
@wishusknight3009 2 жыл бұрын
Its true. A desoldering gun is a life saver. Makes working on large restoration projects much less frustrating and time consuming experience. I thought I was pretty fast and decent with wick and even a mechanical pump, and although I knew desoldering guns were great, i didn't really feel I needed to spend the money. Until I was doing some work in a friends lab and decided to try his system... My reaction was "are you kidding me?"
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, I do have a very high quality Japanese desoldering station. In my years of experience with it, there are many times it fails to do as good a job as a wick. I actually use a wick most of the time and hardly ever a pump. I also recently purchase a hot air station, and since the bad board isn't something I will need to be careful with, potential warping due to heat from the hot air station is less of an issue. Not only that, but Bruce Rayne inspired me to purchase a 20x20cm Hot Plate, which I saw at the end of a recent live stream of his. That thing looks amazing because you can sit an entire board on it, and after a bit most components are raised to 350°C and are able to be pulled out with a pair of pliers fairly easily -- at least, that is how Bruce showed it. So I am eager to give that a try. Boards you sit atop a hot plate run the risk of delimitation, but again, I am not trying to save the bad board because as you can see from the bubbly traces on the bottom, it's not worth saving, and that's why I am going about the SE Reloaded project in the first place.
@wishusknight3009 2 жыл бұрын
@@JDW- I absolutely agree. Wick is better in many places than a de-solder iron and can do very clean and precise work. A gun's biggest advantage is speed. When removing and replacing several ISA slots on a 386 motherboard recently, i had to inject some fresh solder before the pump or wick could even touch it. So I just decided to 'assembly line' the process and then went along after with the gun. And then spend a bit of time with some wick after to clean up the rest. In this case I have no doubt it halved my time if not more. I also have a heat plate too, but have yet to actually use it. I have not found a situation yet where I felt it was needed, but much like the desoldering gun I may be surprised when I just sit down and use it on another project to try it out. Though I have used an oven to just make fast work of stripping parts off a PCB that was being junked. But that was before I bought the heat plate. But it can be safe to say we have many tools at our disposal to accommodate what each of us finds most comfortable to use with each situation. I do not think there is any particular right way if the end result is of high quality.
@pocketscience911 2 жыл бұрын
Just my 2c worth.. I've had a few bad experiences with desoldering guns on old boards.. namely C64 and older gear.. on those boards at least the guns were more likely to take a pad along with the solder. Since I started watched @JDW and Bruce's channels I've been converted to wick for most of my repair jobs now. Done right it's fast enough for me and from what I've experienced less likely to damage the board (of course still possible though if done poorly). That being said I've not thrown away my desoldering guns. Horses for courses etc...
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
@@pocketscience911 Yes indeed. I've spent more time cursing my high quality, brand named desoldering station than I can remember! It's never hot enough and never sucks strongly enough, and if you're not careful while rocking it back and forth over the pin & pad, you could degrade the integrity of the pad. It also gets clogged too often for my taste.
@6806goats1 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this. While I don’t have an SE, just soldering again looks like fun. I hope Kai is doing better, I didn’t follow the go fund me link yet but hope he is well.
@JDW- Ай бұрын
If you enjoy soldering, this is certainly a fantastic project for that. Also, Kai is still active on the Tinker Different forum, and you can interact with him publicly or privately there if you like.
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job JDW Can't wait for part 2 When I get my original SE 30 back from my son that he has it but has been in storage for 19 years I sure I will have to replace the mother board with a reloaded board
@Fred_Raimer 11 ай бұрын
Awesome series, James! I especially have to compliment the music - really kept it engaging!
@JDW- 11 ай бұрын
I'm extremely pleased you liked the SE Reloaded series, Fred. Thank you for having made time to share your kind thoughts!
@Gazmassive 2 жыл бұрын
JDW, I know you have a full set of quality tools, but the Anesty ZD-915 has proven invaluable to me for console and minor mods. For the money, its desolder performance is really good. Awesome video and killer project. Keep it up!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
I also have a hot air station and a 20 x 20 cm 350°C hot plate, which I did not show in my part one video. I will show those in subsequent parts.
@lifeafterdev 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this 🙏🏼
@bujin5455 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was a crazy amount of work!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
It also took a bit of work cutting 4 hours and 19 minutes down to fit a 49 minute video! :-) It could have just shown the soldering of an initial part and then cut out the rest, but that wouldn't be very thorough, so I just accelerated repetitive ports to slim down the time. I still have quite a bit more to do, which is why I expect to make at least another 2 videos in this series, with my Part II filming starting this week!
@wishusknight3009 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I am going to start off by saying your doing it wrong. I (insert random unrelated event here) found it much easier to (inserting unrelated random solution here) to deal with (unrelated and random problem here). And if you did it exactly the way I do it then it (insert random and unrelated project here) pillows fluffed properly. Lol.. Just trying to do more than the normal comment of how good this video is. And it is really amazing to see all the different retro communities efforts to keep these machines alive. And the detailed breakdown of the process for the next person who wants to attempt this. Well done.
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect some will not "eye it" like I did when it comes to bending the ends with a pair of pliers. That's why I put a link in the text description to a little plastic gizmo that will aid you in bending leads. It may surprise you to know though, that in all the parts I installed in that video, I only had 3 which I bend the leads a tad too long or too short for the holes. The rest were spot on, even though I didn't use the tool. All said, it's proving to be a fun build, despite the fact I am spending time filming it. It would be even more for without all the filming work associated with it. The finished board will truly be a sight to behold!
@wishusknight3009 2 жыл бұрын
@@JDW- Eh, it looked pretty good to me! My first paragraph was only to jab at the many comments in every tech video of people that know how to do everything better than the video maker lol. I honestly think with how many small parts there are on a fresh build like this, spending time to bend the leads with pliers would drive me a little crazy. I am contemplating this daunting task with my amiga2000. Mine is a very early revision board that has had about 2 dozen reworks done on it over the years, mostly by its original owner. And it has real issues with stability when I use the wrong combination of zorro cards and bus termination resistors. And it does not work at all with anything other than the socket 030 accelerator I have in it. It wont work with either 040 slot cpu board or the official 030 commodore card. And my 030 accelerator has no local fast ram, so its performance is limited by the ram on the zorro bus. Even though it has a 32k external processor cache. If you have ever seen an Amiga2000 board, I think they consist of some 470 parts...
@ccedraro3878 2 жыл бұрын
Best regards!!! incredible!
@tappdarden 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! i love the tidbits you put in the front talking about the differences between the plus and SE. I've often wondered about the macs that have the same CPU and mhz. Another example is Quadra 610 and 700. It might seem a bit pedantic, but i find it interesting.
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Because the word “pedantic” has a somewhat negative connotation associated with it, I think the word “meticulous” would be more appropriate. That’s how I describe myself most of the time too. We are both lovers of the details, and I think that’s a good thing!
@pocketscience911 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - I'm very impressed with the effort Kai has gone to with the board. My only wish is that someone will do an SE/30 reloaded. I think I saw someone had done it, but don't recall ever seeing the boards, or Gerbers, available publicly. Regardless, thanks for your contributions to the community - they are truly appreciated. 👏
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
• Bolle created the SE/30 reloaded and the Gerbers (for making a PCB) are available on his Github here: github.com/TheRealBolle/SE30 • Photos of someone's completed build and subsequent discussion is at the TinkerDifferent forum here: tinkerdifferent.com/threads/se-30-reloaded-complete.819/
@pocketscience911 2 жыл бұрын
@@JDW- well, there you go! Thanks again!!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
@@pocketscience911 No, thank you! (I'll send you an email thank you after lunch, about an hour from now.)
@RoyMaya Жыл бұрын
Great job! In fact, because of you videos I decided to Reload an SE Superdrive that I found for cheap. I"m using your BOM which makes things a lot easier - thanks. I still need to find a rom chip and a couple of Bourn filters which didn't survive a battery explosion. I'll finish this one way or another, though.
@JDW- Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, Roy. I look forward to hearing how your build works out. Feel free to post photos over at the Tinker Different forum if you like: tinkerdifferent.com/threads/logic-board-macintosh-se-reloaded.25/
@kahlil88mph 2 жыл бұрын
Excited for part 2! Can't remember if I've seen you do it in other videos, but I recommend installing a surface-mount CR2032 holder. The ones with legs at each end (not hiding underneath) are the perfect length to tack right over the holes.
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching for your kind suggestion. I've already purchased a brand new replacement holder to match the stock holder, which of course will satisfy the purists who prefer the board to look as stock as possible. I even bought the top plastic part which secures the battery inside. But those who don't mind doing non-stock mods can of course add a button cell holder, and that would work just fine.
@Mr.Fahrenheit_451 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as always!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, Mr. Fahrenheit!
@2dfx 2 жыл бұрын
Very pragmatic approach to this restoration! Such a great solution for those us who wish to keep these machines alive. Would love to see those board get extended to other models as I have a IIfx that has succumbed to battery damage. Looking forward to the next parts!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your nice words and for your kind support of my KZfaq channel!
@rogerjones8809 2 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted a IIfx, I used to have a II and later a IIx, but that was before 1996! Never should have let them go! It’s a tremendous amount of work to back engineer these boards and I also would like to see other models done!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Kai Robinson decided to reverse engineer the SE and Classic boards because they’re quite commonly found in the auction marketplace and in a battery-bombed condition. I suppose he does have the technical know how to do other boards in the future, assuming he has time and desire, and most importantly, assuming there’s enough demand.
@ukmk3supra Жыл бұрын
@@JDW- You're correct - the desire is there, but the time is not, now i've changed jobs and moved house - the real kicker is that sprint does not currently support 6-layer boards, which is required for much of the newer machines. Sprint have said support is coming 'soon' but they work at a glacial pace :/
@tenminutetokyo2643 2 жыл бұрын
That's nuts!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
I would classify it either as a Cashew or Macadamia nut insofar as it is quite good. :-)
@ukmk3supra Жыл бұрын
@@JDW- In green? Pistachio, methinks :p
@modularmods6384 2 жыл бұрын
Cool !
@ymkdevices4052 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! The BOM is a great resource. The switches are Alps SKHCBFA010. The plastic right angle supports may be proprietary, but 3D printing solves that.
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the part number of the Programmer's and Reset Switches! To your knowledge, does anyone have an STL file of those switch mounts?
@ymkdevices4052 2 жыл бұрын
@@JDW- I'm not aware of any.
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
@@ymkdevices4052 Well, maybe someone reading our conversation will decide to produce them. It was those plastic mounts that I was referring to when I said the word "proprietary," but I honestly didn't know the part number of the push buttons until you kindly posted the answer in your opening comment. I appreciate that very much, and no doubt others will too if they find their switches are damaged. 🔴 And to anyone else reading this, please know that YMK Devices is the creator of MacSD, and I have a video review of that amazing product here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sN2qadR-qJi-dWg.html
@smcic 2 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb question but can I upgrade my Mac plus with this to turn it into an SE? I particularly want the scsi 2 functionality. Rascsi doesn’t really work with my plus.
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot do such an upgrade because the analog/power supply board is different on those two machines.
@burpethead 2 жыл бұрын
JDW! I have a bolt on SE Processor Upgrade to 16Mhz from SuperMAC Technology, I have no need for it, uses the PDS slot, contact me if you would like it!
@JDW- 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you for your kindness. If you'd like to send me an email, my address is: jdw1 at proton.me I must admit, I've been pondering 16MHz 68000 accelerators in anticipation of this build being completed. Is your card the one shown in the photos here? bit.ly/3a5rLou
@burpethead 2 жыл бұрын
@@JDW- Awesome yes I think it is, just emailed you!
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