Macworld 1998: Steve Jobs talks about Apples return

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New York - July 8, 1998.The Macworld event inaugurated a competition (produced by Double Exposure) called the National Macintosh Gaming Championship, which challenged attendees to play games for a number of premium prize packages. The event continued in 1999 in San Francisco, and was terminated after the New York show in 2000 to make way for the Apple Gaming Pavilion. Source: wikipedia.org

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@akhilkarkera9178 8 жыл бұрын

Who came here after watching the Last seen from the movie "Steve jobs".

@euripideseusebio5404 8 жыл бұрын

Just now!

@euripideseusebio5404 8 жыл бұрын

I feel like I'm still seeing the movie

@EfraimBurgos 8 жыл бұрын

just did the same!!

@Giraffedude28 8 жыл бұрын

+akhil karkera I just did it while playing the music at the end of the last scene in the film.

@sethsterner7785 8 жыл бұрын

+akhil karkera checking it out right now after finishing the movie for the second time. Great movie!

@ick13 7 жыл бұрын

When is he going to acknowledge the Apple II team?

@chrisc5095 6 жыл бұрын

I think we was referring to the scene in the movie.

@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 4 жыл бұрын

The Apple II team is made of B players. And the B players scare off the A players and he wants to attract the A players. (watching "Pirates of Silicon Valley" again.)

@TheRealShiaLabeouf 3 жыл бұрын

@@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 less than 90 days of insolvency, in part because someone thought the newton wasn't a box of garbage

@dreamofanewhalo 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealShiaLabeouf joe could you come off please

@TheRealShiaLabeouf 3 жыл бұрын

@@dreamofanewhalo leave him

@JesusisJesus 10 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't you just love to take an iPhone 5s and an iPad back in time from this era and show it to 1998 Steve Jobs?

@Curiousnessify 8 жыл бұрын

+Jesus - Make it happen Jesus, ur the only one who can. Also, vid or it didnt happen

@Ghost-jy9hk 8 жыл бұрын

I think it would have surpassed even HIS vision

@AngelPerez-lm8uj 4 жыл бұрын

Wow this comment is 6 years old, you’re talking about a 5s while I’m on my 11 😭

@prakhargupta5676 3 жыл бұрын

Literally mate.....I kinda time travelled....saw your comment....a bit confused....then saw 6 years ago....got so many chills....BTW how ya doin these days

@JesusisJesus 3 жыл бұрын

Solitune Gaming- Daily Uploads Well I died 5 times last Saturday from heart attack. I feel like I’m drunk 4 days later. No shit. Australian Paramedics are Angels!

@tonykeo83 8 жыл бұрын

Steve Jobs was a brilliant business leader in technology. He would see technology that is complicated and made it into consumer friendly.

@marufio 6 жыл бұрын

tonykeo83 he was one of the smartest men alive

@AKumar528 2 жыл бұрын

His screen presence and voice is seriously on another another level. Others you yawn and forced to listen. He creates attention

@claudial3875 8 жыл бұрын

omfg that desktop computer was what I used in school around 2003-04, good times

@2giersz 7 жыл бұрын

Steve Jobs: "I use IE and I like it'. Crazy 90's

@pronounjow 6 жыл бұрын

Marcin Gierszewski Well, IE6 wasn't around for another 3 years and that's the version, IIRC, that had over 90% market share in (maybe) 2002 and 2003 and remained in active use by so many people for so many years.

@atisbasak 3 жыл бұрын

@@pronounjow Safari was released by Apple in 2003.

@TheFibanachi87 8 жыл бұрын

"Civilization. Great shoot em up title".

@gilsukim 10 жыл бұрын

“We began an advertising campaign for brand around ‘Think Different’ and for very specific product advertising. So For the first time in a long time, people saw Apple on television, in outdoor and in print.”- Steve Jobs

@DeepDuh 7 жыл бұрын

Imagine Microsoft had someone like Jobs managing Longhorn. Apple's OSX transition was a textbook way to bring the whole ecosystem onto a new modern platform IMO, I've never seen anything like this.

@euckb 2 жыл бұрын

yep with steve the competitors were always trying to catch up or create loopholes to bypass patents. steve was able to promise things with confidence and deliver them with grace. standing applause for price, design etc.

@iveco555 7 жыл бұрын

This is what Apple should do today. Same strategy would get apple back at track. Listen to customers. Bring back PRO version. Fix port problems.

@jodazague8333 4 жыл бұрын

this comment is gold

@MatthewLowery 4 жыл бұрын

There's no port problems other than the lack of USB-C on iPhones.

@oliv23_ 3 жыл бұрын

Bring back magsafe and the apple light

@buowerc 3 жыл бұрын

done and done 🙌

@j800r 11 жыл бұрын

Universal Serial Bus. The name is a kinda giveaway. :p But ya, it's impressive how fast it became the standard and still remains so.

@chintanparmar3094 3 жыл бұрын

Who's here after Steve jobs book

@gg5115 6 жыл бұрын

I had forgotten how badass Sherlock was. Note that Google wasn't one of the search engines mentioned - it may have existed but nobody had heard of it yet.

@0neo 7 жыл бұрын

Steve died a little inside when he said he liked IE...

@AKumar528 2 жыл бұрын

Not really. That time it was better than Netscape. You could try yourself

@0neo 2 жыл бұрын

@@AKumar528 that wasn't really my point

@sagan666 7 жыл бұрын

Cheering for a 56k modem.. Haha. What a time to be alive.

@dejabu24 6 жыл бұрын

US robotics my fav

@sean8102 4 жыл бұрын

@@hye181 You're the one that seems salty. I don't see how he is "shitting" on anything, just reflecting on how far things have come.

@JSYBen 8 жыл бұрын

+Sanket Khodankar Microsoft had only recently just helped to bail out Apple with a large purchase of non-voting shares. Part of the deal was to bundle IE as the default browser on Macs. So in a way i'm guessing Steve didn't really believe IE was great, but he felt he had to say it was.

@sean8102 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you're right. Safari came out pretty damn quick around the end of that 5 year deal.

@MASTERmw100 11 жыл бұрын

its amazing that almost everything uses USB cables.

@Hyper-M 4 жыл бұрын

16:02 : When I was a kid I worked at my school district's IT group. Among the older high schoolers and adult employees, I was the only one excited about the prospect of the Universal Serial Bus. The others thought it was ridiculous to connect your speakers and a hard drive to the same port you would use for mouse and keyboard. Ports should be specialized, they said. You're wasting money plugging a low end device like a keyboard and mouse into an expensive port. It won't catch on. But I was right, USB took over the world. It's in your car, your TV, and the armrest of your plane seat. And now it carries video, sound, power, and data. Everything.

@mikekaylor1226 3 жыл бұрын

Most IT people are freakin dinosaurs, and want to use whatever keeps them from having to learn something new, or stretch out.In education IT people keep their people 5-7 years behind. I think they are going to be extinct in 5-10 years, at least the way we think of them now.

@gio048 6 жыл бұрын

One of Steve’s best😎😎😎😎😎😎

@hagbard72 9 жыл бұрын

So much for sticking to four core products. He's change his mind every year. Anyway, it worked.

@cawheeler27 9 жыл бұрын

They still stick to that generally. Macbook Air, Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac Pro, though they did throw in the mac mini as a low cost entry level Mac. This was back when they only did computers, and still makes a lot of sense for their computer products. But it's smart to branch out into new product categories. If Apple had stayed focused only on the Mac, they would be a much smaller, less valuable company. They still carry this simple strategy over to the iPhone and iPad as well, you don't see 3 dozen different models like you do with Samsung, Asus, LG, and Motorola.

@anthonykehoe1773 9 жыл бұрын

Jobs never established the four product grid as a lasting model, but just one that helped the company focus after all the useless projects were cut when he came back.

@BMan100 10 жыл бұрын

Hard to believe the sudden computer BOOM in terms of speed and storage. and now it's just almost like little bits here and there.

@AnonymousFreakYT 7 жыл бұрын

OMG! 24:52 Jony Ive with hair!

@ithinkitspickingupalittleb8011 4 жыл бұрын

OMG

@RWL2012 4 жыл бұрын

"Jonathan Ive VP, Industrial Design Apple Computer" haha!

@CasualGamer4K 10 жыл бұрын

@17:30:"Hey hey hey hey, I gotta tell you, I use IE and I like it!" Oh Steve, you so crazy!

@viseberg8527 8 жыл бұрын

IE used to be very good in '98

@tofuSoul 12 жыл бұрын

wow the applause on the 56k modem!

@Mikinct 5 жыл бұрын

We need a new 2019 Sherlock

@NinthCinemaDown 10 жыл бұрын

Legendary

@chooweichern4461 9 жыл бұрын

::)

@mynamehaschanged 10 жыл бұрын

I watched it on a Mac running Windows and with IE 10.

@maxroman2010 4 жыл бұрын

Usb is going to be a great deal)) indeed. I loved USB from the start

@Gravydog316 7 жыл бұрын

I wish I had an old Mac pre-OS X

@atisbasak 3 жыл бұрын

You can run Mac OS 9 on current macs using virtualisation

@DozIT 6 жыл бұрын

Remember when internet browsers had home pages?

@godsofwars 8 жыл бұрын

ugh i miss this stev e jobs not what he became later

@LisaM-mi8lk 8 жыл бұрын

He got old :(

@godsofwars 8 жыл бұрын

+James Hoang you spelled douche wrong btw

@oldkidsjonge 5 жыл бұрын

Lelz

@QuarioQuario54321 3 жыл бұрын

What actually happened Allegro (8.5) : Q4 1998 8.6: Q2 1999 Server: Q3 1999 Sonata (9):Q4 1999 OS X Beta : Q3 2000 OS X : Q1 2001

@atisbasak 3 жыл бұрын

iOS: 2007 watchOS: 2015 tvOS: 2015 iPadOS: 2019 macOS 11: 2020

@NLS87 9 жыл бұрын

OH MY GAWAWWWWWD! 56K MODEM!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?

@kiely4561 2 жыл бұрын

It screamed

@Gravydog316 7 жыл бұрын

lol the debut of USB!

@maxroman2010 4 жыл бұрын

The disney guy made some amazing jokes))))

@TiborVass 11 жыл бұрын

Did you notice how Phil Schiller is dressed up as a Best Buy employee?

@zenithquasar9623 6 жыл бұрын

"Choice is good don't you think?" is the farthest thing from Apple's current philosophy!

@PurushaDesa 10 жыл бұрын

2013 and I still love my FireWire 800 drive! (USB 3 expansion still on the to-do list.)

@iceberggip9049 10 жыл бұрын

Steve Jobs was definitely innovative. I discuss the death of Steve Jobs in relation to non conformists in society. Feel free to leave feedback by liking or commenting on my links. Thanks for the support and make sure you subscribe to my channel.

@falorinavickinsburg945 3 жыл бұрын

this guy looks totally different from his 1990 interview or even his 03 interviews. I wonder if all that work and stress had changed him entirely.

@buowerc 3 жыл бұрын

it was the cancer

@topherd1011 10 жыл бұрын

Bring back Apple Works!! Plzzzzz!

@jjs777fzr 4 жыл бұрын

NOT recorded using an iPhone!

@ZeromasterVT 9 жыл бұрын

45:00 tfw MS NT out performs furring the Apple Keynote

@maxroman2010 4 жыл бұрын

Indeed... consumers are starting to network from home nowadays.

@atisbasak 3 жыл бұрын

Due to COVID 19 and lockdowns

@maxroman2010 3 жыл бұрын

@@atisbasak I believe it was sort of a joke.. because this video is over 20 years old 😄 and that’s what Steve jobs said.

@ganeshmohan 10 жыл бұрын

Johnny Ive with hair!!

@Fedjapedia 12 жыл бұрын

saving a complete website .. how cool is that?! lol

@HHGFHJGFHJGFJTYFJDGY 12 жыл бұрын

We sadly know the year to add on that second slide now.

@undsoft 11 жыл бұрын

By that time IE was a pretty good browser.

@trolar1 7 жыл бұрын

10:22 What just happened there ?

@ER-sv1np Жыл бұрын

5:00 CFO เก่งจนสร้างกำไรได้ติดต่อกัน เพิ่มช่องทางจำหน่ายที่มีประสิทธิภาพขึ้น 7:50 บอกยอดขาย Apple เพื่อให้คนเชื่อมั่น บริษัท กล้าซื้อของ 9:02 เหตุผลที่เลือก 4 products 9:44 แข่ง 4 ช่อง ส่ง A-team เวียนทุก 9 เดือน เพื่อ สร้าง best product 4 อย่างให้ได้ 11:00 การ setting ที่ง่าย ตามคน potplayer งงมาก อะไรเยอะแยะ แค่ต้องการใช้งานไม่กี่อย่าง บอกความต้องการ โหลด แล้วใช้ได้เลย ไม่ต้องเข้าไปหาทางเอง คนเรารู้ว่าต้องการอะไร ai จัดการให้ทั้งหมด (วิธีที่ seamless automatic ที่สุด ใครคิดได้เสนอมา อะไรที่ไม่ต้องทำก็ได้ตามต้องการ) 11:54 ทุกชิ้นส่วนล้วนดีสุดเพื่อ UX movie ดีสุด ดังนั้นตอนนี้จึงเป็นสิ่งที่ยอดเยี่ยมที่สุด ในการชม movie(dvd-rom&card-pc)(คนเริ่มใช้ Mac ดูหนัง dvd)(อุปกรณ์ดีสุดในการดูหนัง imax 3D ) 12:20 iMac ความตื่นเต้นของ internet และความเรียบง่ายของ Macintosh (ผู้คนอยากสัมผัสอะไร สร้าง tool ที่ใช้สิ่งนั้นได้ง่าย ดีสุด) 13:00 กำลังเดินออกจากตลาด customer เราเลยตัดสินใจสร้างสินค้าอุปโภค ที่เรารัูวิธีการทำ นั่นคือ iMac (ตี้ไงวิธีคิดสร้าง) 13:40 ซึ่งผมคิดว่ามันสวยมาก เทียบตัวเก่า (competition ดูว่าเราแข่งกับใคร ดีพอให้คนอยากมาซื้อไหม) 16:30 upgrade modem เพราะ ปชช รู้ปัญหามันแล้วและกำลังจะมีสิ่งแทนที่ (ไม่ใช้สิ่งเก่าทั้งที่รู้ว่ามันเป็นปัญหา & รุ่นใหม่ต้องแก้ปัญหาเก่าทั้งหมด)(มีทีมแก้ปัญหาโดยเฉพาะ) 19:10 Universal Serial Bus สิ่งนี้สำคัญเพราะมันขยาย plug&play Mac ให้ดีขึ้น เร็วกว่า port เดิม 30 เท่า Automatically & didn’t know anything 20:20 usb เป็น new std industry ซึ่งหมายความว่า ผู้ผลิตอุปกรณ์ต่อพ่วงทั้งหลายสามารถเชื่อมต่อกับ Mac ได้ โดยไม่ต้องไปหาทางลง หรือ drivers 20:48 เราเชื่อว่า Apple ได้กระโดดขึ้นเป็นผู้นำด้าน usb และ allegro เป็น sw usb ที่ดีที่สุด 21:30 เห็นได้ชัดว่า เขากำลังพยายามนำการออกแบบเชิงอุตสาหกรรม iMac มาใช้ (แม้แต่การออกแบบ ยังเปลี่ยนทั้งวงการออกแบบโลก) 22:20 แนะนำ ของที่จะเอามาใช้กับ new usb คือทำอะไรใหม่ ก็หาเจ้าใหญ่มาร่วม โดยยังควบคุม best ux และ เขาได้ขายตลาดใหม่ มีทีมงาน ที่จะออกไปชวนสินค้าดัง เชื่อมต่อ usb iMac ได้ ก่อนที่จะเปิดตัว iMac ด้วยซ้ำ 24:41 มันทำสิ่งที่ คอมอื่นทำไม่ได้ ทำให้ผู้คนตื่นเต้น Mac รุ่นเดิม เป็นไปได้ยากที่จะทำตาม เราต้องกลับไปอยู่จุดนั้น 25:13 Jetson วิธีสมบูรณ์แบบในการจับปัญหา (ใช้งานง่าย ประสิทธิภาพมหาศาล ความคุ้มค่าสูง) เครื่องนี้ให้คำมั่นสัญญานั่นจริงๆ(รักษาสัญญาสำคัญ) เรานั่งลงเพื่อใช้ Macintosh 25:41 ทีมที่คัดอย่างดี ความสามารถมาจากทั่วโลก กำลังร่วมงานกับคนเก่งสุดในโลกเพื่อสร้าง product ที่ดีสุด สำหรับ wow 27:00 นี้ไม่ใช่ของเมื่อวาน แต่มันคือของอนาคตที่จะส่งมอบวันนี้ 28:24 strategy อีกหลายปี เราจะ upgrade product ต่อเนื่อง ทำให้ดีกว่า เร็วกว่า บางขึ้น ใส่ features ลงไป ทำให้สนุกขึ้น 29:20 จะปรับปรุง Mac OS ทุก 6 เดือน 30:00 Mac OS X ยกระดับแก้ปัญหา 8 ทั้งหมด คือ os รองรับอนาคต 34:35 วิธีเลือกสิ่งที่จะ present (2 feature ที่สำคัญต่อลูกค้าของเราที่สุด)(search & faster network ) 48:00 ไม่คุยกับนักพัฒนา และใส่ใจความเห็นพวกเขา Apple เสีย market share 49:13 มันจะช่วย dev อื่น เอาชนะ อุปสรรค(ต้องทำสิ่งนี้เพื่อส่งมอบสิ่งที่ดีให้ลูกค้า) 50:54 วิธีสร้างงาน ไม่ใช่ port มา แต่ สร้างใหม่หมดเพื่อ mac คิดใหม่หมด และ สิ่งพิเศษที่มีเฉพาะ max ver only 51:40 แนวคิดการสร้างงาน จะไม่สร้างงานที่ไม่ชัดเจน มีคนใช้ไม่กี่คน แต่จะสร้าง งานที่คนใช้ทุกวัน เพื่อจะทำให้ ชาว mac ขาดการใช้ไม่ได้ 54:07 พยายามเข้าใจว่า ผู้คน ใช้ net ทำอะไรส่วนใหญ่ (แนวคิดก็ดีหนิ ทำไม IE ห่วยไม่พัฒนา สู้ chrome ไม่ได้)(คนมองออกได้ลึกพอ) 55:10 เริ่มดูการใช้ เริ่มจากตรงนั้น หาทางแก้ เช่นคนใช้ด้วยการพิมพ์ www พิมพ์ผิด ก็ไปคลิก ดู web ที่เคยเข้ามา แต่ดีสุดคือ ไม่ต้องพิมพ์หา อยากเข้าอะไรคลิกเลยสะดวกกว่าเยอะ bookmark bar & extension (Bank app ทำได้มากกว่านี้ ช้า งง ad เยอะ แก้) 1:21:40 สร้าง Ad จาก pain point มันเลยโดน ยิ่งจอฟ้า alert ยิ่งโดน (พอ vision pro พยายามทำว่าเป็นอุปกรณ์ในบ้าน มันไม่เหมือน ไม่ชัดคนดูไม่ออก)(ไม่มีความรู้ว่าอยากได้เลย) แม่เป็น ad เก่า มาดูยุคนี้เรายังชอบเลย

@0cards0 Ай бұрын

it summarized the doc? how?

@jgmenino 12 жыл бұрын

0:07:42 - And what once was near $2 billion, currently is $623.5 billion!

@haydensmith7141 3 жыл бұрын

October 5th, 2020 their Market Value is $1.992 TRILLION! Absolutely insane...

@MakinaMakinaMakina 3 жыл бұрын

@@haydensmith7141 Oh wow I was going to comment on this 8 year old post with a revised valuation but you beat me too it by only 2 hours haha!

@thedude3422 3 жыл бұрын

2.08 Trillion now. As of May 2021

@Etienne_H 12 жыл бұрын

"Only available in the Macintosh Version of.. Internet Explorer" This guy seems a little nervous haha

@DigitalTwisted 10 жыл бұрын

A round of applause for a 56k modem. God I'm glad I was born at such a time that I only had to suffer that for a year or so.

@user-qt9bf7xl5t 8 жыл бұрын

He is going to the heaven but he lives in people's heart

@iSquishy89 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, Mac OS X 10.0 in Q3 1999? That way a very far off prediction. And at the same time as OS 9 as well, did they think Sonata would be OS 8?

@Ahmed-wi6qi 5 жыл бұрын

IE browser? I preferred using Netscape back then.

@inyourgenes 4 жыл бұрын

If only I'd bought Apple shares in 1997 as it was 90 days from filing for bankruptcy......

@ANigerianPrince 11 жыл бұрын

Wizard of Oz from NOWHERE!

@murphyncfd 8 жыл бұрын

yep got me

@CasualGamer4K 12 жыл бұрын

"I use IE and I like it." @17:34 Funny hearing that now in 2012.

@Gravydog316 7 жыл бұрын

Whats Sin Bad?

@Gravydog316 7 жыл бұрын

what happened @ 37:50?

@higorhaas6474 5 жыл бұрын

No momento você está rolando esses comentário em busca de algum que não seja em inglês.

@popacap21 9 жыл бұрын

90's logic... YEAAAAAAAAAA!!!010010101 DAT 56k MODEM DOE

@Mikinct 5 жыл бұрын

Be nice if we could keep certain things that were great from one OS version to another. Use Sherlock in Mojave OS etc. Lol

@yeknommonkey 3 жыл бұрын

I like the search results on one half of the page and the pages loading next to it, can we do that I chrome or safari or something?

@anv7009 9 жыл бұрын

4:33 hilarious

@sylvi753275 10 жыл бұрын

That guy really groveling on IE.

@mubd1234 12 жыл бұрын

USB? With such a weird name, it'll never catch on.

@confucamus3536 3 жыл бұрын

What was this recorded with, a toaster?!

@RWL2012 3 жыл бұрын

the quality is actually not that bad considering when it's from and how many times the digital version has probably been re-encoded

@confucamus3536 3 жыл бұрын

@@RWL2012 thanks, you explained the joke.

@RWL2012 2 жыл бұрын

@@confucamus3536 hirarious

@confucamus3536 2 жыл бұрын

@@RWL2012 what's even more hilarious is it took you a year to think of that???

@vahnfish 11 жыл бұрын

1:17:30 dragons den guy

@rsr789 10 жыл бұрын

Where's Gil Amelio? J/k :-P

@CoolCoolPancakes 7 жыл бұрын

17:34 so he used something from microsoft in 2008 well

@RWL2012 2 жыл бұрын

1998

@rockprogphil1683 6 жыл бұрын

Me!!!!

@solti235 7 жыл бұрын

Trump's market value in 1998 = .". & in 2016 =?? °

@gaburugabriel 5 жыл бұрын

Foda de mais

@crumplezone1 6 жыл бұрын

56k modem lol

@RWL2012 2 жыл бұрын

last minute change of spec from 33.6K!

@mococaboy17 11 жыл бұрын

Can you say Anti-Trust? It's pronounced Internet Explorer. 49:00

@powerphoricidw6082 5 жыл бұрын

45:45

@anguruso 11 жыл бұрын

1:09:25 er... to this show.

@bonze1257 10 жыл бұрын

Apple fans clap at everything.

@Ghost-jy9hk 8 жыл бұрын

Probably because they have a reason to be excited

@DozIT 6 жыл бұрын

OMG DID YOU SEE THE NEW BEIGE BOX IBM IS WORKING ON!!!???

@sharkheadism 6 жыл бұрын

no one bought ibm beige boxes by this point. people bought a lot more dells than apples, though

@MakinaMakinaMakina 3 жыл бұрын

@@sharkheadism Not for very long though

@clintt5266 7 жыл бұрын

Most Canadians born in 1998 are now old enough to legally buy alcohol.

@Etienne_H 12 жыл бұрын

Same for Bluray, besides it really won't catch on.

@TheNipommu 12 жыл бұрын

lollllllll

@wendysbrian 11 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up if you're watching on a Mac

@NEOhioTrainFan 10 жыл бұрын

Eh, I didn't really care too much for the iMac G3, or anything else G3-based. I like anything PPC 604 based.

@StraussWyldeTT 9 жыл бұрын

The 604e put the biggest gap between PPC Macs and Intel Machines.

@sootmann 9 жыл бұрын

StraussWyldeTT No, the G4 did that, when it sat at 400/450/500 MHz (and then 350/400/450) for over a year.

@buowerc 3 жыл бұрын

56k modem crine

@Griffwad1983 11 жыл бұрын

USB??? It will be a fad...............!. :-)

@ApplePotato 5 жыл бұрын

IE was a piece of shit but Netscape wasn’t much better. Both browser was born in the early days of the internet when things weren’t standardized. And had a lot of baggage to keep. Chrome, safari and Firefox was better because of hindsight.