Madoka's 'uselessness' is pretty clearly because of Homura. In the timelines where Madoka is a magical girl, what little we see shows someone who's more confident and has a strong presences because she's able to help people as a magical girl. But when Homura makes her wish to go back in time and become Madoka's protector, she prevents Madoka from being able to do anything, and Madoka only gains back her 'usefulness' when she steps out from Homura's protection and makes her wish.
@aliciaannettaphotography70773 жыл бұрын
agree
@aes26212 жыл бұрын
It’s like Sayaka said, “when someone wishes for happiness, someone else is cursed” Also another great parallel, Madoka’s final wish also completely stands against Homura’s wish. Homura’s wish to protect curses Madoka into being weak Madoka’s wish to save all witches curses Homura into being alone and separated from Madoka for all time
@hattorihanzo57072 жыл бұрын
wowsers
@hattorihanzo57072 жыл бұрын
Homura thinks she's helping Homura when she's not
@ILiekFishes Жыл бұрын
i mean calling madoka useless is quite reductive, especially when you're comparing it to becoming a magical girl which dooms you to killing however many people before being killed. mami probably saved a lot of people by killing kyoko and stopping her from turning into a witch. it doesn't make it any less fucked up, but that's why people aren't judged based on how useful they are. from kyubei's perspective, sure, not contracting indirectly puts you at fault for causing the heat death of the universe, but nothing you do matters on that scale. on the flipside, yeeting sayaka's soul gem may have started her spiral, but it did serve the purpose of preventing her and kyoko from murdering each other and we know from episode 10 that Sayaka is prone to turning into a witch even if it doesn't happen. basically, why the fuck are you calling people useful? that's messed up.
@gabetalks92754 жыл бұрын
I've never seen Madoka as a bland or useless character. She embodies the love, kindness, and selflessness required to make the ultimate purely selfless wish. Madoka's character is basically a Christian allegory.
@deathmetalhellokitty97243 жыл бұрын
Madoka died for our sins so she is waifu material
@koalakultofficial3 жыл бұрын
Madokaism💕💕
@KyoukoAu3 жыл бұрын
@@koalakultofficial IS THIS THE RELIGION OF MADOKA CUZ I WILL IN FOR THAT
@koalakultofficial3 жыл бұрын
@@KyoukoAu okay sell your soul in a contract then nothing bad will happen 😈🤍
@edgystuffretarkidnormcring3302 жыл бұрын
The only religion I follow
@McDudes7 жыл бұрын
People who think passive characters = bad characters are stupid.
@CelestialReturner6 жыл бұрын
McDudes *Yugi Muto Abridged: "Well they can all go to hell!*
@Asehpe4 жыл бұрын
And I don't even think Madoka is a passive character.
@deathmetalhellokitty97243 жыл бұрын
@@Asehpe in a way she was kinda how i am , Just trying to find her purpose and didn't feel significant but not on a depression level . Shes an amazing character in my opinion and teaches some important lessons about ourselves
@mrs.dollkiller Жыл бұрын
@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 To me, Madoka is an interesting character when she making an ultimate wish to discuss remember she's also a human that have pure heart, don't get me wrong if she has human strengths and flaws too unlike Jesus. Is Madoka did everything right? I'm not quite sure on that because everyone here's always make mistakes because they're humans
@deathmetalhellokitty9724 Жыл бұрын
@@mrs.dollkiller she definitely is considered to be one of the top tier waifus in my book . She's caring and kind yet isn't afraid to do what's necessary to benefit mankind. Her character deserves more attention for sure. She's very well written .
@AciGAMA7 жыл бұрын
Great video, a lot of good points here. I love the Anime and I think Madoka is an great character and the perfect protagonist for the show. One aditional thing: I think the passiveness of her gives the audience the perfect linse to see trough to understand and get more sucked into this helpless and desperate feeling of the show.
@3ASV3116 жыл бұрын
@Aci ガマ I recommend for all the people and fans who think Madoka is useless should definitely watched the video.
@Asehpe4 жыл бұрын
I have myself also wondered, ever since I first saw this anime, why people think of Madoka as "useless" or "undecided" -- I can't think of a single episode in which it wasn't quite obvious that she knew very well what she wanted, but others (Homura, and especially Kyūbē) kept forcing her to do something other than what she wanted. My personal opinion is that Western viewers have a problem with characters who are both active/strong and simultaneously kind/nice. If you're kind, you must be defenseless, the West thinks...
@Thebeezzkneezz.2 жыл бұрын
The thing is I like madoka, I like her interactions with her mom she's clearly not a push over but I always hated shy meek characters. She acts just like the one kid who I wanted to punch, almost fake sweetness gets under my skin Sayaka was always my favorite girl and kyoko was a close second
@_lost_33004 жыл бұрын
I think madoka kaname is the reason the show ends up feeling inspiring. Through the sadistic cruelty of fate, theres madoka, who does incredibly important things. When sayaka deteriorates to the point of shutting off her pain, madoka feels it instead. When homura became more hardened, madoka became more tender. Shes the important contrast of the characters, the one who selflessly takes bears all of their struggles, while they continue to selfishly act, just so she doesnt feel like a burden. How she starts in this timeline as someone so weak, meager, indecisive and shy is extremely relateable. Right off the bat you can relate with this character, you can empathize, while with the others it can be harder to empathize purely because you wouldnt know how its like to constantly travel back through timeline after timeline over and over again, or to try and make your father happy only for him to kill the rest of your family and himself, etc. With madoka theres no deeprooted trauma. With sayaka, her circumstances get so extreme, we cant relate to her anymore, but we end up still being attached to these characters and feeling the same way madoka does while fate acts on them. In the end, her wish was what everything built up to. Her inaction felt like the death of her; so she took action. She took it in the only way that she, madoka kaname, could, by bearing everyone elses grief, just as she had been shown to do throughout the entire series.
@lazilyymade2 жыл бұрын
"Madoka Kaname is not all useless" Ah yes, the floor here is made of floor.
@chaoaretasty7 жыл бұрын
Good video, I'm with you in personally really liking her as a character but I think you missed a key point in her being "useless". The whole plot of the show from Homura's perspective is to actively deny Madoka the opportunity to be active. In the first timeline she's already a magical girl and helping people. This results in her death and Homura's mission. From the point Madoka asked to be prevented from being tricked by Kyubey Homura has actively stopped Madoka from getting involved. There are several times Madoka is about to make a contract and Homura steps in at the last second. And multiply this by the hundred or so timelines that have happened. The whole reason the story happens is because she can't help but to get involved.
@shonenbag64782 жыл бұрын
You're right, Madoka isn't useless at all. When I was a TA, I met so many people exactly Madoka's age who were just like Madoka. With the proper teaching, they were able to shine. I think what makes Madoka such an interesting protagonist is that she's so realistic, she has a big heart and while she doesn't make any grand, sweeping statements of love or friendship to progress the plot forward much (which is personally where I think people draw this notion that she's useless from) she reacts in nuanced and reflective ways to perfectly counter the antagonists of the story. In a way, Madoka reminded me not to give up on those shy kids because each one of them could probably be just as strong as she was given the right nurturing.
@subtitledanime7 жыл бұрын
Really great video, it really changed how I viewed Madoka and gave a new perspective to a show I really love
@Mabene2897 жыл бұрын
Madoka Magica is my favorite Anime, I even got a japanese Blu Ray signed by Urobuchi Gen himself. You get my feelings on point bruh, keep doing awesome videos like that^^
@CoraMaria3 жыл бұрын
The point of Madoka wasn't to be someone who took action at any opportunity they could, but to be an active listener and observer. It was only through her "passivity" in the majority of episodes that she was able to make her wish. If she had tried to act without listening, it would've been another doomed timeline, because she didn't know all the variables yet.
@3ASV3116 жыл бұрын
Protect and defend my Madoka Kaname with all (my) costs!
@rainierdanredondo12784 жыл бұрын
Me with MP5 loaded: *LET'S DO THIS*
@mrs.dollkiller Жыл бұрын
LET'S PROTECC
@3ASV3116 жыл бұрын
This video is very suitable for all the people and fans who think Madoka is useless. I'm a male who loves this character after I have watched the original anime and 'Rebellion' movie. For the fans who think Madoka is useless, dislike or even hate Madoka, they are required to re-watch all the 12 episodes or the 2 Recap movies, Madoka Magica 'Rebellion' movie, Magia Record Season 2 - Eve of Awakening and Magia Record Season 3 - Dawn of the Shallow Dream again. Don't point out the bad points and weak points of my Madoka anymore.
@3ASV3115 жыл бұрын
@MahouShoujo Maisoon My favorite is Madoka Kaname.
@3ASV3115 жыл бұрын
@MahouShoujo Maisoon After the ending of the Madoka Magica 'TV series' and before the Madoka Magica 'Rebellion' movie, my 2nd favorite is Kyoko Sakura, 3rd favorite is Homura Akemi, 4th is Mami Tomoe, 5th is Sayaka Miki. After the ending of Madoka Magica 'Rebellion' movie, my 2nd favorite is Mami Tomoe, 3rd is Sakaya Miki, 4th is Kyoko Sakura and 5th is Homura Akemi. Do you think I hate Homura Akemi, absolutely not. My most hated character in Madoka Magica before the 'Rebellion' movie is Kyosuke Kamijo. After the 'Rebellion' movie is Kyubey. Because Kyubey is an asshole.
@3ASV3115 жыл бұрын
@MahouShoujo Maisoon Sayaka Miki is my least favorite out of the main 5 before the 'Rebellion' movie. After the ending of the 'Rebellion' movie, it is Homura Akemi is my least favorite out of the main 5. My most hated character is Kyubey.
@3ASV3115 жыл бұрын
@MahouShoujo Maisoon Because he never cherish Sayaka's magic for healing his arm. He also breaks the CD player which Sayaka gives to him.
@3ASV3115 жыл бұрын
@MahouShoujo Maisoon Not only causing Sayaka to despair. Kyubey also failed to tell something important like the full terms of the contract and soul gems. Kyubey is producing the source of waste (I mean witches). Homura needs to 'reduce waste from the source'. (廣東話俗稱從源頭減廢) I respect some of the fans hate Madoka Kaname (the protagonist from the show), Homura Akemi, Sayaka Miki and Mami Tomoe but like series in general. At least the 4 characters I have mentioned have reasons to hate.
@easilyoffensive63397 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, mah dude. Underrated channel.
@CelestialReturner6 жыл бұрын
*Look at Yugi Muto from Yugioh. Atem/Yami Yugi did more than Yugi. But that doesn't mean I find Yugi useless. Same rules apply to Madoka herself.*
@nannombre22385 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if your average anime fan expects a badass.
@HotaruKara6 жыл бұрын
Meh, it seems only girls in anime are called useless, like Sakura, Hinata, Madoka etc but not guys. There are useless guys in anime as well like: Yukiteru from Mirai Nikki, Kouta from Elfen Lied, Raki from Claymore, Konohamaru from Naruto, Yamcha from Dragon Ball, Mr. Satan from DBZ, Grape Juice from My Hero Academia, Sai from Naruto, Makoto from School Days, Kon from Bleach, Excalibur from Soul Eater, Chad from Bleach etc etc
@3ASV3116 жыл бұрын
There are even some anime girls are far more useless than Madoka Kaname, Sakura Haruno from Naruto Franchise and Orihime Inoue from Bleach. Like Yui Komori from Diabolik Lovers and Yuuki Cross from Vampire Knight etc.
@daijo61584 жыл бұрын
Alright you take that chad one back now idc abt the rest
@deathmetalhellokitty97243 жыл бұрын
Actually Sai isnt that useless i actually like him .
@BizonthePhoenix863 жыл бұрын
Kyubei: I'm the most powerful creature in the universe Madoka: pathetic
@kylegesin71784 жыл бұрын
How could anyone think she was stuid for making the wish she did, or that it was not fitting cause a better one could be made? The whole show is about choices and consequences for those choices. About how people don't always do he right or best thing. That wish makes perfect sense and fits right in.
@angeldude1014 жыл бұрын
When Madoka first saved Homura from Izabel, Homura saw her as nothing short of an angel; divine. While Homura's wish was supposed to make them trade places, in the end it did nothing short of proving the divinity Homura first saw in her by granting her true divinity as a goddess.
@thetruetri5106 Жыл бұрын
Fantheory: If madoka had picked the yellow ribbon, homura wouldn't have fallen for her. Therefore homura would never have wished to travel through time and never set the whole story in motion
@DanielSantosAnalysis7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I am convinced that she's a great character or anything, however I do think you brought up some interesting points and demonstrated that there is certainly much more thought put into her character than most people give her credit for.
@aliciaannettaphotography70773 жыл бұрын
while she's not my favourite I still really like her. I see her character as us as the viewer and our jouney into what becoming a magical girl and what it really means in this world.
@cloudiiqueenofnewtropilis2 жыл бұрын
2:09 SAME TBH I LOVE MADOKA SM SHES A QUEEN HATE ME IDC-
@Venom_bitez3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Madoka is useless, I think she is like a side of Homura that Homura cares and probably also wants to be since before she was a magical girl, Homura hated her life and when she met Madoka she wanted to be with her. She had to reverse time so she can save Madoka and her wish was selfish, unlike Madoka her wish in the last timeline was selfless. Madoka became a god and Homura became a witch and split Madoka in two. Homuras world is all about Madoka and Madoka knows nothing in this world. Madoka is selfless while Homura is selfish, Madokas last wish was to save every magical girl while Homuras is for one magical girl.
@scorpionsketch9087 жыл бұрын
The reasonings behind why people don't like Madoka remind me somewhat of the reasonings people didn't like Raiden and Rosemary in Metal Gear Solid 2. Obiviously there's some big differences. But a analysis I watched showed that the creator wanted to use Raiden as a commentary on how some gamer's immerse themselves in games to escape reality. Rosemary was the one pulling Raiden out of the mission (AKA the game) and Raiden was throwing himself into the mission to escape the reality of his past. People had a similar reaction the Raiden as they did with Madoka, because it wasn't as cool or awesome as they wanted it to be.
@maytalacedo29423 жыл бұрын
she's someone I find myself relate 2 since I was someone who was shy and don't stand up as much. and I like this change in this anime bcuz of how she witness the reality of magical girls. but is actually emotionally strong regardless of what she saw and witness. that's emotional strength.
@3ASV3116 жыл бұрын
13 people who clicked the dislike button still think Madoka is useless? Or they have no taste at all.
@rayoscrost4 жыл бұрын
The anime community, never a good thing and ever so toxic. Now we're getting stuff like "a character is useless" and posts like this had to be made. It's also why we can't have nice things.
@zodiyac3 жыл бұрын
Ngl the first time i watched madoka i didn't like madoka and found her to be annoying until she made that wish and looking back now that i completed the series i appreciate her character way more than when i was watching the series
@sassafrass_studios5 ай бұрын
I fully agree with your points about Madoka not being useless-I love her character and her arc. However, I disagree with the idea that the narrative is punishing Sayaka for making a selfish wish. It seems to me more like a representation of burnout and a critique of the attitudes that make girls feel like they must be giving their all for others 100% of the time.
@harrishromero64473 жыл бұрын
Anime is like meme they died in popularity
@swordofdios Жыл бұрын
wtf r u talking about
@Gordonfreeman5514 жыл бұрын
and that gets into a underlying problem with homura’s character beyond her overwhelming abilities what is there actually homura’s character what gives Homura to be in rebellion or even to be a part of the magical girls to begin with? What makes Homura the character she actually is and what is the source of her transformation it seems like puella Madoka doesn’t really have the best villains none of them have the complexity like magneto or darts Vader have however each of them still possess them distinct strength from one another Kyoko was a magical girl with a strong sense of pride and nobility witches are genocide all sociopathic from different realms who dominated the universe and couldn’t stand up against the magical girls the familiar were cold killing machines who were born into the strongest realm by the witches (if not) their realm timeline from apart the witches to destroy for their own pleasure now kyubey was similar this way however he also posses the distinction traits of contracts and grants wishes for the remain user but over time his character became more and more of his own and he actually evolves he may have not have been the best of these villains maybe neither the bosses however his childlike mentality abilities in the humorous ways he would use allowed him to stand out amongst the crowd Now compare all these villains to Homura and there’s a pretty clear difference what is really distinct or different about Homura? Her design is a cross between a black hair girl and koan black moon from sailor moon she’s a time traveler she’s really strong she has some sort of motive to go to time and time to safe and fail against saving Madoka she wants Madoka’a soul gem for some reason rewind the universe and she’s the main antagonist of rebellion that’s literally it that is all the character development she’s been given and This doesn’t make for an interesting or compelling antagonist instead what we get is a character with little to no personality whose past we may understand dominating a bunch of characters we do card about using seemingly angelus powers that has yet to be explained and despite her motive and what she did was wrong or right in episode which goes out of their way to push Homura as a badass the end result is ultimately ‘’boring’’ because if you strip away that animation and score and you just look at Homura from a character standpoint it becomes apparent that Homura herself is a boring character she’s just a big strong Heel with ultimate plot power who stands in the way of Homura and friends survival she’s just an obstacle someone to change time and then to keep moving on to the next part we’re Madoka goes to the next Law of cycle ego is even stronger the Homura and the cycle continues like a dragon ball z movie and so far Homura hasn’t shown much of differentiate her from a movie villain in the first place
@kefkapalazzo10924 жыл бұрын
Fucking rofl 😂.
@springtime.solitude4 жыл бұрын
1. Spelling and punctuation. I couldn’t understand half of it without having to reread. 2. Don’t judge just based on surface level of the anime. This show is much deeper in terms of literature than others. It infuriates me seeing how you only think of Homura as nothing but another “boring character” when she in fact is quite relevant to the plot itself. 3. There is NO black and white in this show. EVER. Villains are never clear-cut, and the only villain there is, is Kyubey and its manipulation skills. Homura wasn’t exactly a villain, but she wasn’t a character who was on the “good” side either. She does what she does according to what she wishes. She’s not villainous and you’re just watching this on the surface level like an average fan would.
@Gordonfreeman5514 жыл бұрын
Lumi.K go away that really goes to show how Madoka fanboy’s are so simple minded like you
@Gordonfreeman5514 жыл бұрын
engaziwa of course a madoka fanboy’s gotta come in and try to act like this show is perfect without its flaws it’s glaring flaws
@Gordonfreeman5514 жыл бұрын
Lumi.K bitch I analyze the show more than you so don’t come at me and say that I’m an average fan I analyze it to the roots to the dialogue if you’re just gonna say that then don’t come to this, this comment is for facts and A point and if you’re just a fanboy then don’t come at me and say ‘’ah this is just to you know I think that you’re watching in a surface level in one’’ uh that’s something Uh a casual would say not a fan of the franchise
@bustedkyuboard90417 жыл бұрын
So why is Madoka altruistic? Comparing her to a similar named character Medaka you have to keep in mind Medaka is an idealized character. What does that say about Madoka? That's the problem with her. You acknowledge the criticism of bland, but go on to say her character doesn't feel imposed. That's exactly what she is. Hardly a character you'll find urobuchi's characters are more so a mouth piece than human. Her wish is the worst thing about her character because that's her only purpose. And isn't the idea that in a separate timeline she does become a magical girl go against what you said about how Madoka not getting screwed because she made a selfish wish? She dies. The mom was pretty boss though. Given just the right amount of screentime.
@Blue-ux4sk8 ай бұрын
6 yr old comment but i feel its worth replying to just to get the thought out while many characters also follow the same endless hope and optimism and are always trying to help to varying degrees of success, madoka is expressed with such sincerity and a genuine realism that few other characters with similar tropes are able to execute. she is kind and she is a genuine force for good, but she's also flawed for the reasons the video states and some other ways that are so often understated. you can kind of take her as a symbol of hope, as its the selflessness and kindness of an ordinary girl that saves the universe. but thats not really that special is it? madoka is special because her altruism is also... selfish. madoka wants to be helpful, she wants to be useful and needed. thats why she's always tagging along and its why no matter what she always tries to connect with homura and even sayaka who eventually turns on her. the point of her wish, to free all magical girls of their despair, is a culmination of her both her self hatred and her desire to help and to matter. she explicitly does not care what happens to herself, this is the double meaning when homura means when she asks her if she cares about the life she lives and tells her to not change herself. she even comments that she's not good at anything, shes not special outside of her potential to become a magical girl, and this anxiety is partially why she makes her wish. even the specific wording of her wish is precise, "to erase witches with her own hands", because to destroy a witch personally gives her agency, it gives her the ability to free every single magical girl from despair with her own power. i argue that her passiveness is sort of the point. she feels useless already, and she is the main character, we are watching the show from her point of view. you are supposed to feel frustrated and confused and scared because thats what madoka feels. and she obviously feels conflicted and torn up about her own agency all by herself, but she doesn't know what to do until the very last episode because thats when she's lost it all and she has to protect the few people she has left. additionally the point of the wish system is that its fucked and *NO MATTER WHAT* you will die or be killed because the law of karmic destiny determines it. as the power of a wish is inherently making something impossible, possible, and the magical girl pays the price with her despair.
@bernardodias72024 жыл бұрын
The video was amazing ❤️
@EspeonaSparkle3 жыл бұрын
Great video! :D
@Noahk983 жыл бұрын
Madoka is absolutely not useless!
@lemonprime78894 жыл бұрын
I don't think Sayaka's deterioration shows what could have happened to Madoka. I don't think Madoka would've made a flawed, selfish wish to begin with. I don't think she did in any timeline. Homura's words aren't similar to Junko's at all. Those are two different pieces of advice.
@eddiesam85397 жыл бұрын
May the fourth be with you
@FireMewMew6 жыл бұрын
It's the yandere girl...AHHHHHHHH WRONG MADOKA!!!!
@coolsketchablestuff2 жыл бұрын
aint mami like 15? ( 7:50 )
@sialmfao2 жыл бұрын
yeah she is .. very creepy to say
@person8064 Жыл бұрын
She is the oldest of the quintet, technically
@coolsketchablestuff Жыл бұрын
@@person8064 that dont make it any better bro
@aceportgas9544 жыл бұрын
Not that she was useless but Boring Madoka is really dull as a character. She even said it self that she's not good at something particular and has no goals. And she's desprete to be useful
@deathmetalhellokitty97243 жыл бұрын
I think you dont understand the intent behind her character then. Shes may not have thought she was worth anything but taught some of us about love , suffering , loss and kindness . she even gave up her own existance to make witches never even exist anymore . she's basically a representatation of Jesus
@3ASV3113 жыл бұрын
If you think Madoka Kaname is a dull nor useless character, which means you did not watched the last 3 episodes of Madoka Magica, Rebellion movie or even worse, the entire show yet. You have not yet watched Magia Record Franchise as well. You haven't pay any attention while watching the show yet. You have never faced some of your favorite anime characters (no matter is a male or female) suffer something or someone they loves or cares the most annihilated nor died in front of their eyes. How about Yukiteru Amamo from Mirai Nikki, Koyoki Himekawa from Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku (In English: Magical Girl Raising Project), Aya Asagiri from Mahou Shoujo Site (In English: Magical Girls Site), Yuki Cross from Vampire Knight or even Yui Komori from Diabolik Lovers. The last one in even the most useless female protagonist ever.
@deathmetalhellokitty97243 жыл бұрын
@@3ASV311 youre right on all of this but when i was younger i actually liked Yuki lol but she should have ended with Zero not her brother not poggers
@Blue-ux4sk8 ай бұрын
thats literally the point. she is desperate to be useful and therefore sacrifices her existence as a human to become an abstract concept in order to save the universe.
@chidangvan32404 жыл бұрын
Mudaka
@KaiserTrigger7 жыл бұрын
She kind of is useless if she can't think to make better use of Kuubey giving her ANY one wish she wants. Like... what the fuck. That's like asking a wish upon Shenron, asking for eternal youth, when you should have asked for immortality.
@kyuubibomb44677 жыл бұрын
There's a story of a women who wished for immortartality, but because she didn't wish for youth she became a dried up prune abd the kids would laugh at her. They would ask what she wants and at this point she said to die.
@ml37787 жыл бұрын
lol Homura wouldn't even be alive if it wasn't for Madoka in the past. Hitomi wouldn't even be alive either. Madoka again saves Homura during her fight with Walpurgis, then she becomes a force that eliminated witches in all realities and timelines. She's the MOST useful magical girl (until Rebellion fucked everything) All Homura did was try and do what Madoka asked for in the past. I think people should have paid more attention to their actual stories rather than than anything superficial about the characters.
@kyuubibomb44677 жыл бұрын
I remembered who it was. It was Sibyl.
@animethingsandstuff23302 жыл бұрын
She is not useless but still is worst girl.
@mrs.dollkiller Жыл бұрын
Pfftt Nothing in the show are worst girls, they're all the best girls but just in different ways what they acted depending you viewed it