i loved Homura even more after Rebellion

I've been wondering for a while why people think they can only love Homura if she hasn't done anything wrong. Can't you love someone in spite, or even because, of their flaws, mistakes, and wrong actions? Homura is a great, compelling, wonderfully written character with a tragic backstory; does she really need to have done nothing wrong to be also worthy of our love?

I think you tried to bring this point up, but it wasn't explained very well, so I wanna talk about the flower field scene. The one where Homura is crying to Madoka about her experiences before her labryinth (under the context of a dream). One of Madoka's biggest character traits is a lack of love and respect for herself, and when Homura asks her if she could have left her friends behind to go somewhere faraway, Madoka belittles herself and says she couldn't, and that she'd never even want to. From then on, Homura is under the belief that Madoka didn't want to make her sacrifice. She isn't trying to crap on Madoka's wish, she believes she's saving Madoka from it. In reality, Madoka was most likely happy with that wish, but her own lack of self love prevents her from believing she has it in herself to make it. Just a lil neat part of the movie that I think goes underminded a lot.

This isn't a good ending, it's Homura's ending. It's her good ending.

Personally, I prefer the idea that Homura rewrote the entire universe. Or at the very least her labyrinth BECAME the universe.

Its incredibly rare and refreshing to see someone who doesn't take the ending of the TV anime at face value as "perfectly good". Madoka really hasn't changed much for the magical girls in the grand scheme of things. I've also seen a theory that Madoka's wish was actually just her way of committing suicide. Its clear through the series that Madoka does not view herself in a very positive light and places very little value on herself. In fact in past timelines she will throw away her life to the magical girl contract for the smallest of wishes just to provide help to others. With the way that she will cease to exist and in fact never come to exist she does not have to deal with the guilt of devastating her friends and family while at the same time she gets to validate herself by helping others for eternity with self righteous whipped cream of self sacrifice on top. The perfect suicide for a character like Madoka. This is corroborated when Madoka's arm reaches through the window to Homura and is covered in cuts, which could be self inflicted. Or it could just be her arm from the Walmart Night flashback lol.

Bro i love rebellion, the best ending.

Out of character? She changed from a shy, timid, glass-wearing Moemura to what we saw in the TV series....Her character has always been changing. This is called character development. 'I've gone this far already why should I stop' right

Homura did one thing wrong Just one thing She tried to lewd Madoka

Best thing to remember with this series is that it's always the Incubators doing something in the background. Post credits scene in Rebellion seems to suggest this since we see two different Kyubey's; one that is tattered and broken, and another lurking in the shadows that appears to be completely fine. They couldn't capture and study Madoka, but they don't need to anymore. They see Homura was able to rewrite the universe, and now they want to know how she did it so they can reset the universe to the way it was before Madoka made her wish.

Love homura, best char if all that series

Homura's wish did nothing to contradict Madoka's wish. She actually nullified the need for Madoka to do anything by expanding her laberinth to encompass the universe (Supposedly). Not only this, Homura has potentially saved the universe. Just like Kyubei established in the series, they harness the negative emotions of adolescent girls, converting it into energy to keep the universe from collapsing on itself. Negative emotions is power. Kyubei potentially uses this energy to power their own technology (If it can sustain the universe, it can sustain their weird alien technology) The energy must be collected in the soul gems, made from trapping the girls souls and preventing their negative emotions from going anywhere (Thus ensuring all magical girls turn into witches) There is only one way to remove the negative emotions from your soul gems, and that's to put it in other soul gems. The gems are then converted into power. When Homura expanded her laberynth to encompass the universe, it traps everyone inside. Everyone is, in theory, inside the world of Homura's soul gem. If everyone has negative emotions and does not have a soul gem to keep those negative emotions inside, they're releasing it out into the open confines of Homura's soul gem. Their emotions are filling her soul gem, giving her raw power. Because her laberynth expanded throughout the universe, Homura can convert the negative energy directly into power and pump it into the universe, making the universe and her laberynth self sustaining. Kyubei now has nothing to do as their mission is essentially done, the universe will never implode. There's also no longer a need for magical girls as their purpose for existing has been taken by Homura. Sure, Homura's wish nullified Madoka's magical girl ability, but it did not nullify her wish. Madoka just prevented the existance of witches, Homura prevented the need for magical girls in the first place. By being the most selfish thing in the universe, Homura saved everyone. The irony in that is almost poetic if it wasn't so absurd.

the ones that did wrong were the writers for not giving her a fucking happy ending and made her the villain :(

No one talks about how there's a lot of things that point to her being an orphan, remember when she wanted to kill herself in the first timeline, she didnt have a witches kiss, that was all her and apparently Japanese orphanages are so bad that kids grow up with very low self esteem (not to mention she was hospitalized which is also a depressing experience)...this also explains why she immediately fell in love with Madoka, cause she's so happy and caring and Homura clinged onto her. Everything about Homura comes down to this, she's a fourteen year old who's been through A LOT and her obsession is totally justified and we all know these girls are beyond therapy, they are spiritually and internally gone. Also in my opinion this makes her the greatest underated yandere

Homura did wrong, but it is very arguably for the right reasons and the lesser of two evils. If The incubators can create a space where Madoka's laws don't apply, then Madoka's wish has in fact failed and her laws are proven to be unnatural. What they did proved that something more had to be done to prevent them from just repeating the experiment and turning more magical girls into witches. If rewriting the laws of the universe is wrong, then Madoka's wish at the end of the series was also wrong. In fact, Madoka's saying that it is wrong to mess with laws at the end of Rebellion makes her a hypocrite after she explicitly spoke of rewriting the laws of the universe when she made her wish. Where Homura went wrong is in taking away Madoka's free will, but in can be argued that Madoka did something similar to Homura in making her a magical girl even when the thing she wished for in the original timeline never existed. Homura was basically condemned at the end of episode 12 to continue fighting a war she didn't believe in for the rest of her life - without even getting to have a wish like all the other magical girls.

On the upside, the movie gives us a scene at the end where Kyubey looks like he lost a fight to a street cleaner.

Homura is my favorite character, she's awesome and she was so sweet in the other timelines

Homura's far from perfect, but her dedication already surpasses that of most of us. For that alone, I'll give her credit: I could never do what she does. I mean sure I would attempt to, but I would snap long before she does.

This is so true! Personally, I don’t think what Homura did as right, but I understand why she did it.

Yes, yes, yes! I can't agree more! I have watched many videos about Homura (her motivations in series and rebellion), but i usually didn't agree with many of their conclusions (full with false logic and holes). But yours are basically the same as mine. Thank you for this video so much! P.S. English isn't mine first language, so i probably made many grammatical errors - but i was too excited too double-check myself.

I want head pats from Homura. This isn't fair!

Madoka did a single bug. And that is giving Homura a final request beforr she died in the previous timelines, not letting her decieved by kyuubey. But in episode 12 when the Brazilian night is coming (sorry Idk the german word for that) madoka survives, but she became a law and that itself technically as mission failed to Homura's main reason for her wish. (See homura's past) because even though madoka survives until the Brazilian night but her existence is a price for her being magical girl. That's why Rebellion arc happened. I hope the 4th season, next year will be the closure for the Rebellion arc. And the fans will united.

You pointed out some very smart points that makes me love Homura even more. And im already her biggest die hard fan already! That makes your explanation soooooo much worth it. Your content is really realy good n well researched!!!!!!!!!!

Rebellion made homura my favorite female protagonist ever

She did wong

I like this perspective of Homura, though I would also note that she said that she did this out of "love" for Madoka.

Finally an Intellectual

Homura “did something wrong for her” (her being Madoka) Like Madoka’s mom asked her to do for Sayaka.

I get a lot of your points, especially Madoka's wish (she could've just wished for entropy to no longer exist, where that leaves mankind is up in the air if we trust Kyubey's word). I also agree it isn't out of character for Homura. I do think Madoka's normal existence had to be the cost because her wish demanded for intentions to remain pure and who was going to do that job? Kyubey? However, that's neither here nor there. I believe, on some level, most of the girls are still magical girls, especially since Sayaka is upset about that when, if there were no magical girls, she shouldn't be. A line that I remember being in the dub though I'm not sure if it's in the sub was "You took a piece of the cycles, the only salvation for us magical girls." Another thing I had a problem with was the parent stifling their child's dreams analogy, I won't get into the morality of it since different areas have extremely different approaches to that action, but I will say it's a false equivalence. What Homura did wasn't just stifling Madoka's dreams, it's stealing her away and rewriting her memory, she does the same for all of the magical girls. What she has done is still problematic. Sure, Madoka's wish wasn't a solution, but it limited the damage, Homura literally made things worse off for almost everyone. I will say, while I don't like what Homura has done and I don't think I would like her if she were a real person, I like the characterization. It's not out of character, it's horribly selfish and cruel to some extent and obsessive (pushing aside all of the other girl's feelings for her ends while Madoka literally did the exact opposite). Homura didn't do something good, but she's a great character.

Homura did nothing wrong. Everyone else might have been to let Madoka sacrifice herself to end the suffering of Magical girls, but Homura (who LOVES her) was not. When you love someone, you don't let them sacrifice themselves.

There is his notion that you have to think carefully and logically about your wish, which is NOT the point of the story. Only with strong emotions can one become a magical girl, therefore your wish has to be AUTHENTICALLY what you want and not just want is logical, since logic removes emotions. Madoka's wish is that the magical girls are saved by her because that is her real wish which will 3mpower her soul gem

Madoka had to become a god because a wish can't be made without sacrifice, and because of the scale wish Madoka had to make the ultimate sacrifice (take on all the grief of the magical girls from all across time). Homura becoming the supreme witch was the only way to save Madoka from Kyubey and the incubators, so yes Homura is the ultimate hero in this tale (and also my favorite character from all media).

Homura was pretty selfish in my opinion, but that's kinda what I liked about her. Sure she thought her goal was to save madoka but her goal clearly was to be with her. The scene where madoka comforts her is kinda proof of that. they were in Homura's labyrinth, Madoka said what Homura wanted to hear. Homura was clearly scared of losing Madoka, she was partially driven by that fear. in my opinion it was a mix of her fighting for madoka and fighting for her own selfish desires. This is coming from someone who loves and heavily relates to Homura. She is very flawed and she is selfish. that doesn't make her a bad person, everyone is selfish to an extent. Idk thats just how I saw her character.

Madoka’s wish is a little bit selfish because she feel useless in the whole series making that wish mostly for her like sayaka

We have to protek both homura and madoka

Homura loves the Madoka she knew, she's acting selfish by ignoring Madoka's wish and putting everyone else aside for what she wants. But it's not that easy to tell if she's being a good or bad person. What we can be sure of is that her desire brought her both misery and joy, and that she doesn't regret it even knowing she has done bad things to get where she is.

Thank you for creating and expressing this. Homura is the incarnation of love.

Being selfish from time to time is nothing wrong or bad, we just need to take a little more of one thing for us. May it be time or an opportunity. You can't live only being selfless

I agree here a lot more than I disagree. I do agree with the idea that Homura did not rewrite the universe, but merely imposed her labyrinth on it, and I think the evidence for that is very clear from the dialogue at the end of Rebellion. I also agree with the idea that Homura thinks what she's doing is right, and that it's very much in character with her past. It took me my third viewing of Rebellion to really grasp what was going on, and when I finally did, I saw Rebellion as being every bit as good as the series. I think the only thing I really disagree with is the point about Madoka in the field of flowers. I would argue that her true wishes aren't what she says when she doesn't remember, because our experiences are very much a part of who we are. Sure, maybe Madoka would never want to make that decision under some circumstances, but there clearly were circumstances in which she would make that decision, and I don't think you can separate her from those experiences to justify Homura's actions. Fundamentally, I don't think Homura's new world is sustainable, and that's more or less exactly what she says at the end of Rebeliion. You could say it's a false happy ending. You also have to understand Madoka's reasons for making her wish in the first place. Yes, Magical Girls have to still fight, but that's for the sake of their wishes. I can't get the exact quote right now, but Madoka says something along the lines of "I don't want to invalidate the wishes that those girls fought for". That's why the system had to continue to exist in some way. She couldn't erase the wishes, or the suffering they had to endure, but she could save them from their own despair. And in the end, her decision to become a concept allows her to do that not just for all future Magical Girls, but for all magical girls, past present and future. That was the wish she made, and that's why Homura's attempt to undo that, and establish a new order, isn't justified in my mind.

no problem for watchingand i will see you next time too!!!

Nice video dude

Considering how close Kyubey was to exploiting Madoka, Homura did what was needed to work at the problem

very well said

this is a great video

I mean, I feel like it was necessary for Madoka's wish to require her to do it herself. At least for Homura's sake anyways. Homura went through so many time loops just for Madoka to the point that Madoka arguably became her reason for living. They even show this in the show in Homura's house when she breaks down and Kyubey figures Homura out. Even up to the last episode, Madoka had no real true emotional connection to Homura. She "knew" Homura, but was primarily concerned for her out of how kind she was. Madoka's wish was a culmination of everything that had happened to all of her friends up to that point and she just so happened to have the opportunity to change that. After making the wish, she came to see everything Homura had done for her over so many timelines and could actually accept and understand Homura. If she had made that wish without doing it herself, (for one, Madoka might've just disappeared to the Law of Cycles right then and there) Homura would still just be that girl who just transferred in. Homura would have nobody who could understand what she had been through and her feelings would never be able to truly connect with Madoka. That alienation and disconnect from everyone else would probably just have led to an enormous amount of emotional turmoil for Homura afterwards.

There is no wrong or good. Only gray

I Think Homura Did Nothing Wrong At All

Homura would be happy if Madoka wish's is like "Homura and I'd like to erase witches together."

Absolutely agree with this!

Technically since magical girls exist to create power that keeps the universe going, Madoka rescuing them from the suffering that create she energy that keeps the universe going means their suffering is in vein. Don't get me wrong, she became God with good intentions and it was as selfless of a wish as it gets, but that selflessness did have its consequences. Even if what the incubators did seemed cruel, understanding why still matters even if it doesn't necessarily justify it. Not only that, but Homura also didn't reveal Madoka's existence on purpose and this cannot be counted as her having done something wrong. The incubators in previous timelines grew suspicious of her for how she is a magical girl but no record of what her wish was, just that the means of time travel made her powers seem to come out of nowhere, which should be impossible, and therefore they were prompted to investigate. This means Homura's existence alone is enough, no matter how tight Homura's lips ever were.

How did I know Nagisa would say “Fuck you” to Kyubey

I just realized that Homura's world is an opportunity. I hope in Homura's world, the girls get a chance to actually solve their own problems. Talk about them. Put them behind. Not...sacrifice their lives because they can't handle it anymore but they don't want to hurt people. P.S: I'm starting to understand the mindset behind the theory saying Madoka was actually planning to take her own life for a time now, and becoming a Goddess simply presented itself as an opportunity to do it and still be useful.

Ok, but the law of cycles still exists, Madoka just is not part of it anymore.

Homura - ZA WALDO Kyube - oh I fucked up

Great video!!!!! I agree!!! :)

love ur meme reference

But Madokami would become a witch. At least post-Rebellion. The reason Homura turned into a demon in Rebellion is she redirected that fate she'd cause by accepting Madoka's salvation onto herself. and if that's how she had to fulfill saving Madoka from herself then as Homura put it, "she'd be able to shoulder any sin." And nothing about Rebellion or the series post-Rebellion proved that Kyuubey's plan to trick Madoka into turning into a demon/witch after she rescues Homura wouldn't have been able to happen.

wasn’t the point of the video to say if what she did was wrong and not if it was out of character

I don't understand, why everyone love her?

Homura did something wrong but so did Madoka. While the wish of Madoka could be considered and is ultimate selfless love it is at the expense of her own person. I mean she basically felt so worthless about herself that she erased her existence and every memory of it for whar she thinks is the greater good of the universe. Yeah every time you said her wish was the perfect answer you validated child suicide without realizing. If I have to live haunted by that so do you... Yes I'm an asshole. The flaw in it is in the fact that she had to erase her existence because any memoryof her would cause suffering to her loved ones. A system even if absolutely selfless based on the suffering of someone is wrong and will fail because the moment someone knows how that system works that someone is going to rebel against it. However Homura is also wrong in the fact that she placed Madoka's well-being above everything else including herself. She created a selfish system centered around one person and she believes is the happiness of said person. But it's trapping everybody else and condemning them to a hollow false happiness that ultimately lead to suffering including her the very thing she criticised Madoka for. My point is the series is ultimately trying to tell us that both their answers are wrong and that the only solution is compromise between ultimate selflessness and ultimate selfishness, also you should never take the easy way out and walk the harder but more rewarding path and the idea of a wish is cowardice and prevent true human growth or someting... But whatever I like my take better thar one has yuri sheeping teenagers in it which makes it better accordingto the male weebs for some reasons... But hey that's just my longass take in this debate

Homura is the most inspiring fictional character I met. She cares the other girls as well in many timelines and grateful for their help, its just that keep seeing them die over and over again has left her disheartened. She just hates some of their antiques and some of them who practice self harm keep hurting Madoka.

This is what kyubey getting greedy for conning girls... be prepare to get double action first by Madoka, then Homura. Kyubey desperate big time now!(I would be in that state if I literally had all investment burnt in uncertain totally emotional volatile futures).

Her only crime was loving too much

Zeke Jager *Learning about Madoka basically euthanatizing ever magical girl *: I would get along with that Girl.

Still homura is a yandere

if you're not interested to see what Homura's believer think just skip this comment Homura is doing what she thinks is best for Madoka well being but no concern about what she wanted which is sacrifice herself for every magical girl which contradict what Homura wishes and Homura wishes is also contradicted what Madoka wanted so like if Homura is seen to be a god Madoka is going to be a devil but if we see Madoka first then Homura is the devil, as the rebellion shown so there is no right and wrong answer Is like making a loop forever but if two of them agree to disagree then they will make the world with happiness and hopesness

Homura trapping the entire universe in her labyrinth where everyone gets to be human again. causes the entropy to take over soon so she basically fucked the universe because there’s no magical girls anymore

While I understand both arguments something I think people forget one major factor. “How dose Madoka feel about this?” The tv show ended with Madoka *finally* having agency and made her choice. Madoka was finally no longer on the outside powerless to do anything as everyone died horribly around her. Homura had no right undoing that and taking that power away from her (by force remember) It was out of selfishness that she did. She didn’t care if Madoka wanted it or not. I still like Homura as a character. She’s messy and I love how much the twist of rebellion still matches with the show. You thinking she’s a good person who truly cares about Madoka that’s a valid read of the show. You can also watch the show with the idea that she’s a obsessive Yandari who truly “cares” for Madoka and it’s also a valid read of the show. It’s crazy good how well this series covers it’s own ass by never lying to the viewers. The only characterization that needs to stay consistent between the show and movie is that Homura is that she cares for Madoka. I personally like rebellion but I think the show is a better overall story. It’s themes more striking and meaningful. Rebellion is a beautiful film but it just can’t match all the feeling the show ever gave me.

Madoka was inside Homura's gem because the gems are made to host the hope of their lost partners, like we see in Gaiden So really, in no other soul gem the Incubators could have observed Meduka better. They isolated Homura from the universe to transform her into a witch, which would have happened with anyone else. But unlike everyone else, Homura was hosting Madoka inside her gem, so the Incubators started investigating Madoka. They tried to make the Madoka inside Homura use the law of cycle to control her, an oddity that could only happen inside Homura's gem, because no other gem could host Madoka's hope, since she became an external entity from the new universe, and Homura was hosting a Madoka from the old universes Homura's strong will to not become a witch outside her gem was pure luck, she is the only one who could have done something like that. The odds were stacked against her. No other magical girl had ever done that before. Telling Kyubey was a mistake, and she would have failed miserably if her will was slightly weaker Aside from that, Madoka sent a bunch of magical girls to save Homura, intervening even despite being outside the isolated space that Kyubey created. That's why we see OG Sayaka and Bebe, but Kyouko and Mami are the new ones. This begs the question, was the Madoka inside Homura the Godess accompaning Sayaka, or was she the hope Homura was hosting from the previous universe due to her time powers? I believe it was the old one, the Godess

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Of course she did things wrong, but that doesn't mean she's a bad character. She was doing what she thought was right and unlike other magical girl animes, just because she believed in it with all her heart, didnt mean it worked out how she wanted or came to pass without hurting others. It's all summed up pretty clearly in Madoka's talk with her mom about how Sayaka was acting. Everyone does what they think is right and sometimes it blinds them to what's really going on. Her flaws are what make her interesting, and sadly, part of what keeps her and madoka from ever being truly happy with one another. They both have goals with good motivations, but they're in complete opposition with what the other wants.

Homura best girl imo

Imagine if you had to save someone you cared about. I make your life repeat a million times and your well aware, then I make you think you won- with but you don’t get everything you want, but then I come rob you and leave you with nothing. YOUD FLIP A SWITCH TO

damn, Homura is Loli Griffith

Homura torture the fucking kyuubey in the end, nothing wrong, the incubators deserver sufer

Homura is best waifu periodt

This topic will never end. You know why? Were turning back time just like Homura 100times to prove the mistakes happen never actually happen muahahaha

NOTHING WRAUNG

It’s mix a both first this is totally in Homura’s character Homura did not like the wish at all because all she wants is madoka to be happy actually not for her to be happy more like Homura wants madoka to be with her. There is also some problems with Homura’s wish first now the incubators have emotions so they are going to try their hardest to make everyone’s life a living hell second that’s not the actual madoka it’s a shell it’s more of what Homura wants to be madoka is the law of cycles the real madoka is the goddess one she kicked out and third of all the wraiths are still a fucking problem so there is flaws and Homura kinda realized that by the end and the whole entire incubator thing sayaka nagisa and the other witches seem completely capable with dealing with Kyubey they literally came there for that reason and succeeded literally Homura would’ve just joined them because knowing how much madoka loves Homura Homura would’ve probably became a secretary to cause I mean if nagisa could become one she would definitely do it to so I do believe selfishness of just wanted madoka to be a normal girl and wanted to see madoka as a normal girl and her wanting to be in control of that played a role in her decision cause she could’ve easily went to magical girl heaven and been a Secretary with madoka and the other cause I bet Kyoko and mami would’ve joined them later too the reason why madoka kept magical girls existing because the whole entire line Kyubey said with us or magical girls y’all would still be caveman that’s the same reason why I think Homura didn’t erase the incubators all together but her giving incubators emotions absolutely fucked her but this is why I love the show none of the characters are technically good people all of them have fucked and even if there wish seems selfless there is some twisted selfishness behind and I think that’s the point there isn’t no ultimate good or ultimate evil that can solve the problem ultimate selfishness (Homura) will not make you happy and ultimate selflessness (madoka) won’t make everyone happy if they want to solve the problem and give hyperextended love to each other instead of trying to do it secretly or using a wish you have to tell them straight up and compromise

Ok I’m going to be honest, Homura did do something wrong in rebellion I’m mean your points are valid but you keep forgetting something. When Madoka and Homura are in the flower field and Madoka was saying she could never abandon her family and friends Madoka was infected bye Homura’s labyrinth what she said is what Homura wanted to here the same thing goes for Sayka was ready to fight but then she hade to act normal and Homura rebelled against Madoka’s wishes to satisfy her own I understand if you don’t agree with me but Madoka’s wish was a act of self sacrifice and Homura’s was a wish of pure selfishness

Finally, I've always been arguing that Rebellion was a necessary and the anime ending was a bad end. I kept telling them Madoka is just killing Magical girl and absorbing the energy from them. Thus, the mass black energy revolving around the space. At some point that energy will pop and she'll kill the universe itself.

HOMURA WHAT DID YOU DOOOOO

Homura's wish was to save Madoka, so that is why she got time magic and goes back over and over. When Madoka becomes a god Homura tries to fight it until she loses her memory of Madoka. At the end of rebellion she commits a act of selfishness, she cares not for the other girls, just Madoka. So she takes Madoka and kidnaps her, to keep her "safe". Which is actually just Homura being extremely selfish, her world she made might be better but she doesn't care what happens to the others as long as she has Madoka. Homura is selfish, she may have done something good in the end but it was for all the wrong reasons, so Homura did do something wrong, she acted upon her selfishness over Madoka. And Homura's feelings to Madoka aren't like a child and a parent, its like a romantic partner that she is obsessed with and possessive of.

and that gets into a underlying problem with homura’s character beyond her overwhelming abilities what is there actually homura’s character what gives Homura to be in rebellion or even to be a part of the magical girls to begin with? What makes Homura the character she actually is and what is the source of her transformation it seems like puella Madoka doesn’t really have the best villains none of them have the complexity like magneto or darts Vader have however each of them still possess them distinct strength from one another Kyoko was a magical girl with a strong sense of pride and nobility witches are genocide all sociopathic from different realms who dominated the universe and couldn’t stand up against the magical girls the familiar were cold killing machines who were born into the strongest realm by the witches (if not) their realm timeline from apart the witches to destroy for their own pleasure now kyubey was similar this way however he also posses the distinction traits of contracts and grants wishes for the remain user but over time his character became more and more of his own and he actually evolves he may have not have been the best of these villains maybe neither the bosses however his childlike mentality abilities in the humorous ways he would use allowed him to stand out amongst the crowd Now compare all these villains to Homura and there’s a pretty clear difference what is really distinct or different about Homura? Her design is a cross between a black hair girl and koan black moon from sailor moon she’s a time traveler she’s really strong she has some sort of motive to go to time and time to safe and fail against saving Madoka she wants Madoka’a soul gem for some reason rewind the universe and she’s the main antagonist of rebellion that’s literally it that is all the character development she’s been given and This doesn’t make for an interesting or compelling antagonist instead what we get is a character with little to no personality whose past we may understand dominating a bunch of characters we do card about using seemingly angelus powers that has yet to be explained and despite her motive and what she did was wrong or right in episode which goes out of their way to push Homura as a badass the end result is ultimately ‘’boring’’ because if you strip away that animation and score and you just look at Homura from a character standpoint it becomes apparent that Homura herself is a boring character she’s just a big strong Heel with ultimate plot power who stands in the way of Homura and friends survival she’s just an obstacle someone to change time and then to keep moving on to the next part we’re Madoka goes to the next Law of cycle ego is even stronger the Homura ans the cycle continues like a dragon ball z movie and so far Homura hasn’t shown much of differentiate her from a movie villain in the first place

Wanna knoow somthinnnn homura is me waifu Kyouko is other waifu Kyubey is sexy goddess

Where do I even begin! With this fucking scene, how can I possibly even start to form the words that would properly describe how baldy it gives the middle finger to everyone who even remotely cares about the original series! You’re telling me that with no thought, with no reluctance, and with no plan, homura was going to kill her freaking friend in her gem, no, no! A million times no! Do you have any idea how much this is an insult to her character?? I do because I’ve thought of just about every single way that this has gone wrong. First, this was the thing that made mami become a wings remember, the thing that made her completely! Turned to the dark side of the club, so yeah mami becoming satomi’s apprentice her attacking Sayaka in cold blood, and her snapped to try to kill iroha and those others All of that is potentially if not entirely Her fault! Second, isn’t this the same homura that still saw goodness in her friend? AKA Kyoko fucking Sakura!? Remember all those talks about her still seeing her as a ‘’real’’ magical within her and helping her understand her struggle between the light and dark side of the magical’s? How she didn’t-wanna give up on her because she’s an anti hero who killed a lot of witches and she had understood of her become a true magical girl and wanted to help her? added some interesting lessons into wanting to maybe track down Sayaka and madoka for the sake of their safety? Here, she’s literally! Prepared to kill her friend! Her fucking ‘’Best’’ Friend! Third, she was going to kill her friend AKA the goddess of Sayaka, how do you think she! Would feel if she knew that homura was going to kill her friend without a second thought! I’m pretty sure that she would Rightfully beat the shit out of her for trying to kill her friend and Turing her into a monster and I’m pretty sure that mami would have definitely beaten the shit out of her for it Fourth, why didn’t homura just talked! To madoka is she really was worried about her becoming a goddess witch why didn’t she try to offer her any help? Like she did for Kyoko, this could have reality been resolved if homura just took the time to talk to her about what she could say to help her, instead of you know EXACTLY what she ends up doing! And even if it didn’t work, at least! Madoka would’ve have turned because of honura’s absent minded stupidity, her main reason for becoming a witch still comes from an easily avoidable misunderstanding, a misunderstanding that occurred because homura just assumed! That there was no hope for her and once more this actually makes Sayaka look like she’s in the right, Remember, we were seeing this flashback from her perspective too, and the only part she ever actually saw was the part where she wakes up to see homura standing in front of her while talking about the last witch from Sayaka’s perspective homura was going to murder her and she was just defending herself, And fifth, and maybe the worst of all, You’re making homura Akemi look like a psychopath! I know that she had a vision of incubator’s taking over the realms and madoka possibly becoming a witch, but really! Think about everything I just pointed out she could’ve easily taken the moment to talk to madoka about her dark side and help her, from what we saw there was no indication of her pondering such a thing, she immediately! Jumped to the conclusion that she needed to kill her, she was going to kill her best friend betrayed the trust of herself and as well all her best friend And she was going to do all of this while madoka was in her fucking gem! This isn’t the decision of a nobleman making a tragic sacrifice to save the future, this is the decision that a freaking psychopath! Would make, if your first solution to a problem is to kill someone in their good state and you actually make the instinct to go through with it, you’re a goddam psychopath! And I’m pretty sure! And I’m just thinking out loud here that homura’s character was Not! Meant to be a psychopath! Am I in some kind of parallel dimension or something!? Are we all in some kind of parallel dimension where the original madoka trilogy didn’t exist! And homura was just a character that Gen Urobuchi and Ume Aoki came up with? Because this is NOT! In anyway the SAME! homura akemi! From episodes 7 through 8! I’m convinced, this homura akemi is some! Kind of clone, she killed the original took her identity and try to start a galactic takeover by taking a new Generation of magical, and one of them just happened to be siding with a force that opposed her plan, because that would explain why this evil! Clone of Homura was going to kill madoka instead of talking to her, I don’t care what anyone says, this is my head canon for this movie.

Homura did wrong in the very first season. We see in the last few episodes how her wish changes Madoka'd personality until she was not the girl who Homura first knew and who was her friend. Like classic stalker/psychopaths, Homura has confused the Madoka that we see in the first episode with Madoka in her mind. She works to cage Madoka and stop her making her own choices all while saying she is doing it to protect her. Consider her like an adult male podophile who does not want his underage girlfriend to grow up.

I found Homuras love for Madoka to be stifling, suppressing, and borderline abusive with her decisions. I honestly find it kind of gross that so many people can love such a deadpan yandere. If anything, I can see too many similarities between her and kyubey. Their deception by leaving out vital bits of information to everyone throughout the series, the lack of care they really put into any other character BUT Madoka (for different reasons of course), and by the end of rebellion it seemed that the only bit of humanity that Homura could cling to was her obsession with Madoka. And even that was starting to unravel slowly in the last hallway scene of Rebellion. I can only hope that Madoka is “allowed” to get her wits back at some point.

Homaru is a stalker obsessed with madoka. The madoka she knows isn't her madoka very few of them know her. Also the incubators didn't even know the truth about the law of cycles and they wouldn't have tried to mess with the law of cycles if homaru hadn't told them about the witch system