Let me know how you like them. Still my favorite.

Awesome! Let me know what you think

They are working on some new ones, a couple are meant for smaller females I believe. So keep an eye out.

@@GrayMatterLifting oh fun, great news

Thank you! If you snag em, let me know which ones you do and how you like them.

Yep! I keep telling people... More weight, better activation, more reps, means more muscle.

They are badass. Really enjoy them. Let me know if you have any questions.

@@GrayMatterLifting I just ordered the close supinated and medium supinated grips today. They were having some site issues a few months ago, so I jumped on it while the site was up lol. I'm mainly going to use them for Pulldowns and lat development. I might get the medium pronated later. Thanks again for your inputs!!

Austin Menendez you got. When I was looking at them I was confused there, and I've seen many others in the same boat. Glad to help

Nice! Let me know how you like them. I want to snag a medium neutral soon.

@@GrayMatterLifting just got them today definitely worth it the feel is even nice when I flip them. I will be ordering both neutral grips real soon then the wide one.

@@johnnelwhite nice! Yeah, they were an instant fan with me and my wife.

Curious how you did that? Cut and weld? I'm 100% certain that if you could slightly adjust them to different builds, you definitely should. Everyone is going to have different shoulder widths, arm lengths, etc.

Yes exactly, cutting and welding. I have a friend who works metal so he did it actually. Looks solid and well made, on an aesthetic level the rubber cover is ruined, so I used insulating tape to cover the cuts.

@@jhdrummer4815 very cool!

I'll have to check out cobra grips. For me the MAGs took a few uses to really click. The right grip, the right pull, the right weight, etc.

Not a bad thought. I haven't used it myself, so I can't for sure say that's the right idea... But I love the other two mediums enough, I'm sure the neutral is spot on.

Luckily I have a supportive wife, we both make good money, and this is my primary hobby. So I'm able to splurge a bit when it's something I want.

Nice! Glad I could help. I love mine. For the close grip, I haven't heard many people say great things about anything but the supinated. I don't own them, so can't comment, but the close supinate seems to be fire (I agree), and the neutral and pronated are just, meh. The mediums, all 3, are great from what I hear. So if you were snagging a neutral, I'd go medium. Your thought process on the knock offs is probably pretty on point though. The Wide is pronated.

@@GrayMatterLifting thanks a lot and happy new year!

Yep, they are definitely made to fit your hands with the label facing you. You can use it the other way, it's just not nearly as good. It's a decent way to buy one, and test the other grip, but I wouldn't recommend it for long term .

Medium supinate and medium pronate are my favorites by a long shot. The vast majority of people like the medium supinate the best. I think that is your best choice.

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks Joe, I appreciate your opinion!

Yep! That wrapped "hook" grip is a fantastic way for the back to do all the heavy lifting.

None personally. The only two pieces I've handled myself are my powertec levergym and ironmaster lat pull down. For home use, I've heard good things about powertecs stand alone cable unit. And then elite and legend seem to be the next step up. Used market and snagging a commercial unit is always preferable if that's an option.

Yep, I was lucky enough to receive the 3/4 before it launched. Awesome handle. And nothing beats my MAGs. If I had to get rid of every cable attachment, I'd figure out a way to keep my MAGs.

You CAN use probably any of them for triceps work. Not recommend entirely, but they work. For ONLY seated rows, id take the medium supinated without a doubt.

The mediums are the best in my opinion by far, and most seem to agree. I think the pronated is a slightly better pulldown attachment, and the supinated is a better seated row attachment. If you plan to do both, I'd probably grab the supinated as my first and only if that was the plan

Thanks so much Joe..super helpful info!

@@GayleGrantDocGrant you got it. Come back and let me know how you like whatever you buy

I think it just depends on your use. If you are taking it to a commercial gym in your gym bag, the back widow is the clear winner. If you have a garage Gym and only want ONE attachment, same thing. If you want the best attachment for the job, the MAGs are going to stomp all over the Back Widow.

I have not used the neutral, so I can't comment on it from personal experience. What I've heard is good things, but over and over and over people say that the medium supinated is their favorite.

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks for replying back. I appreciate it. I'll be getting the supinated. Now I have to see if they have a coupon code.. do you know if there are any out there? Thanks again bro!

@@DJRodneyLove I don't believe so. Smaller company, focuses almost entirely on commercial gyms, so their need for a retail coupon code is limited.

Hey bro. i got my medium supinated bar and i like it. You truly activate the lats without barely any involvement of the biceps. :) I'm now thinking of getting the wide grip to really get that width. what's your thoughts?

@@DJRodneyLove glad you like the medium supinated. The wide is nice, but personally the mediums are the best. Unless you feel you need/want some additional variations, I personally wouldn't go that route. Even if you wanted more, I'd take the close supinated and medium pronated before the Wide.

CT Singleton Boxing yeah, they get used every back day.

Mine to I just ordered another one

CT Singleton Boxing how did it take to ship?

Which 2 do you have

For pulldowns ONLY... How tall are you? If you are above maybe 5ft 6 inches, I'd go with... Close Supinated, Medium Supinated, and Wide. If you are shorter, replace the wide with the Medium Pronated.

@@GrayMatterLifting awesome thanks! and 6 ft btw

You can flip them. It's not the same since the handles are built one sided, but it's "ok". I know a few people that do that.

Just double checking, you want to do pull ups? What are you going to hang them from? I've never tried that, and to be honest I personally hate pull ups, but I'm sure it would kind of work. I'm not sure it would be my first choice in at home pull ups though.

​@@GrayMatterLifting thank u !! yes i love pullups and am always looking for diffrent handles to do them... like canon balls oder fat grips. I hang then from my pullup bar at home.. i do the same with rolling thunders etc. i thought they maybe would be conveniant because of that diffrent grip.. thx for ur quick answer !! :)

Ok, I'm with you. Interestingly enough, the creator came up with it after doing pull ups in the rafters and noticed better results. It would certainly be an interesting experiment.

@@GrayMatterLifting thx for that fact. Then i think i ll buy one :)

@@Armwrestlingchef Just got around to testing it, as I'm programming more Pull-Ups lately. I used my medium grip supinated, wrapped it around my pullup bar with an attachment I have, and it was awesome! Thanks for the inspiration!

It works. It isn't as good, but it would give you the ability to test both angels.

I like it for a very specific lat pulldown replacement. Strict, upright body, vertical pull. I've tried it for seated rows and it sucks. Don't like it for landmine work either, so it is very much so a pulldown attachment. It doesn't work great for me for leaning back versions which is where I like the medium pronate... so again, very strict pulldowns.

@@GrayMatterLifting that’s really good to know. I use a pulley setup that isn’t that tall so I can’t really do very vertical pulldowns. I’ll get it anyway since I already set up a time with the seller but sounds like it’ll have limited use for a while. Thanks Joe!

@@jamestonbellajo keep me posted. If you find a way to integrate it, I'd love to know. One downside of having a lot of options is sometimes you don't spend as much time getting really creative lol

@@GrayMatterLifting for sure! I completely agree. Also ironic that as you spend more money you use other things you already have less so it’s easy to feel like you lose value on things as you buy more haha.

I'm 6ft 240, my wife is 5'6" around 150... We both like the Mediums the best. If I wanted a single handle for dual use (pulldown and seated row), I'd snag the medium Supinate. Hits the lats the hardest, good for both uses, could be flipped around and used pronated.

Joe Gray thanks a lot, definitely gonna check it out. Subscribed 👍

@@logananderson1608 they are awesome. They get used multiple times a week in my garage. Better in every way to normal lat bars.

What do you plan to use them for? Seated rows? Pulldowns? Any landmine work?

@@GrayMatterLifting I’m interested in a lat pull down replacement, eg vertical lat pull down, and a seated row, eg horizontal pull. What do you recommend?

@@ChrisBranleh are you buying ONE attachment for both, or TWO attachments, one for each movement?

@@GrayMatterLifting if one attachment can do both well, ideally that. But I’m open to buying two separate attachments if you believe that it could be more optimal for each exercise.

@@ChrisBranleh if you wanted only one, grab the medium supinated. Itll work for both movements for sure, and be really good at both.

Nope. As long as I'm not using excessive weight that I can't control, everything is good .

Kind of. The thumb placement won't be the same, but it's close.

I'd take the Medium Supinated, Medium Pronated, and Close Supinated.

@@GrayMatterLifting Exactly what is in my cart! Thanks ☺️

@@Mazboz let me know how you like them when you get them

I've got an article coming out very soon touching on that. I think the Wide is the least used by both me and my wife. The close supinate grip my wife uses regularly, and I love the mediums. If you are smaller, snag the closes. If you are bigger, snag the mediums. The supinated mediums is my favorite,and I think it's the best bang for your buck if you are only getting one. Second would be close supinated, then third is med pronate... If I ever get more wall space, I'll snag the rest just because.

I don't feel the wide in the lats as much, but definitely in the rest of the upper back, I think mostly due to the pronated handle, but also the width itself. The Supinate handles seem to hit the lats the hardest, I believe because the lats are internal rotators, so you are essentially putting them in the ideal spot to get hammered. I haven't used the neutrals yet, so no comments there.

The medium pronated and wide are close in function. If you were going to cut one, I'd drop the wide personally, but it's a close toss up between the two.

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks for the reply, I saw a video and read an article where Dorian Yates explained that narrow spinster grips are the best for developing huge lates as opposed to wide grip and that he never did a single wide grip pull down or pull up during his Olympia reign

@@GrayMatterLifting For low rows do you prefer the medium pronated or supinated? I could see the medium pronated used for cable pullovers actually, I ordered this attachment from Pioneer called the Leather Tricep Strap, it's an upgrade for a traditional rope, I think you would like it!

@@Ashurus I typically use the medium pronated for pulldowns and for hooking up to my landmine for some TBar style rows. The med Supinate gets used for low rows almost every single time.

I've seen those. I haven't heard anything from anyone about them... They look relatively close. Price is certainly hard to beat.

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The wide is pronated and personally too wide for most people for Lats... I'd stick with the medium supinate for lat development.

Joe Gray thanks so much money is tight as is I was about to pull the trigger I do like them though would you recommend anymore of the bars that I do not have

@@jamesdingess9988 I mean, I enjoy them all. I use them all. The only variants I've heard people don't enjoy, are the close pronate and neutral. Otherwise, all good.

Joe Gray hey joe thanks for all your help Was looking at prime fitness handels do they do the same thing as these but just cost more

@@jamesdingess9988 what I've seen from most people who have handled both, is that the MAGs are better. A dedicated handle to one use is superior to a multi functional attachment. If the Prime were cheaper than MAGs, it'd be a valid discussion, but to pay more for less makes no sense to me.

Thank you! I do not, from talks with them directly, they do not currently do discount codes. I plan to share a recent publication with them on my MAG experiences... maybe I'll land one!

@@GrayMatterLifting thanks for the info bro appreciate it. Great channel. Keep up the great work brother

@@DarDarBanks1 appreciate it. Talked to MAG this morning. They said they don't have any current discount codes. Not against them, just don't currently do them. So maybe ya boy will get one in the future, but I don't currently have anything. Feel free if you buy them, to drop a comment in the order notes that I sent you.

Ha! I haven't heard many people enjoy the close neutral or pronated. Otherwise, nothing but good stuff.

@@GrayMatterLifting whatever it takes😂

The close Supinate is a great pulldown attachment. I wouldn't use it for low rows. Most people don't like the close neutral or pronate, so I'd skip those. If you want a good all around close grip, check out the American Barbell Close Grip Chin attachment, or head over to TK Star for some REALLY high end pieces.

Hey hope I bought the right one it was American barbell seated row chinning Handel was 75.40 with shipping think I’m good with that one they have one over and 100 dollars but no stock

@@jamesdingess9988 yep! That is it. I have that one and my wife likes it a lot.

Joe Gray thanks again you should get paid for people buying things And thanks for quick reply’s

@@jamesdingess9988 no worries man. Appreciate the kind words.

If you wanted three I'd take the medium Supinated, medium pronated, and close Supinated... If you wanted only two... I'd probably take both mediums. The close Supinated in my opinion is only good for pulldowns, mostly useless for seated rows. Where as the mediums work for both.

@@GrayMatterLifting thanks for the reply! Hey super off topic but you seem super knowledgeable. I am looking for specialty bars such as the trap bar, foot ball bar, and ssb. I was looking at the kabuki line. Thinking about going with them. They are really expensive and the wait time is super long. Ive read that the benefits to their football bar and trap bar is the balance they have opposed to competitors is way better. And their ssb allows for various angle settings. Any thoughts? Any recommendations for better options? Thanks!

@@MrJkillahoe415 if you have Instagram, I had a pretty solid discussion with a ton of people on my page just last week about SSBs. Might be worth checking out. The general consensus, Kabuki's bar offers a LOT of options, but it's not necessarily the best SSB. So if you want/need that variation option, go for it. Otherwise, there are cheaper better options for the main purpose. Their trap bar seems to be solidly reviewed, same with the Kadilac bar. I think both of those come down to your personal preference. Is getting a bar that is slightly better on paper, worth an extra $300 and up to 6 months of wait time, compared to getting them from other reputable companies. For me, probably not. But for some, yeah definitely. I'd also toss in, if you live near them in the Pacific Northwest, shipping gets dropped dramatically and prices are improved. Makes the decision easier. If you aren't, get ready to eat a large budget for the gym on a few bars you might touch a couple of times a month.

@@GrayMatterLifting thanks for the reply appreciate it so much. I will follow you on instagram!!

@@MrJkillahoe415 Kabuki makes really good stuff. I just think they oversell it a bit, like if you don't own their stuff, everything else is straight shit. On paper everything they claim makes sense... When actual lifters handle their stuff, it changes a bit. I haven't heard anyone say their stuff sucks, but I've seen a lot of people question the true superiority of their equipment compared to much more economical offerings from other places. Similar idea with Prime Fitness and a few others. Not sure the extreme price tag pans out for the average person in terms of ROI.

You can. Its not as good as you lose the thumb grips and a few things, but its close.

@@GrayMatterLifting - Cool, i just ordered the medium pronated grip bar. I'm gonna get the close supinated grip bar next, but first i want to test the pronated medium bar.

@@higiniomorales459 keep me posted on how you like it.

@@GrayMatterLifting - will do.

CreepyTaco I just tried it on mobile. It froze, but I think that was my wifi. I reloaded the page and it seems to be working?

If you actually watch the video, the picture freezes periodically through the video. The audio is fine. I have tried on mobile as well as on PC (24 hours later). When they do not sync, usually a rendering/upload issue.

@@GrayMatterLifting yeah same issue here. Tried watching the videos for 2 days every now and then always freezes.

That would be a Wall Control metal pegboard. I have a video review on this channel, a couple write ups on my blog, even have a discount code if you are interested. Absolutely love it, and I plan to get more in the near future.

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks! I'm definitely interested, have a small basement gym myself. Though I'm not sure if drywall would be strong enough to hold those up + heavy gym equipment.

@@jamesbradford1153 mine are installed on drywall across studs. So as long as you have studs, you are good to go. www.wallcontrol.com/?aff=12 Code GGC will save you 10%. The link above is an affiliate link which would give me a small kick back. And here is the most up to date write up I have. It has details on what I bought and use, and details from others that use Wall Control as well. graymatterlifting.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/wall-control-1-year-review/

Just weighed it... about 5.5lbs.

@@GrayMatterLifting thx

Which ones are you talking about? Garage Gym Life review link is in the description. Let me know.

Looks like their site is down, and they aren't listed on EliteFTS at the moment. However, this is their site: www.maxagrip.com/

@@GrayMatterLifting appreciate the response sir

You got it! Solid choices on the medium and narrow. I have yet to hear anyone not enjoy them, so I think you'll be happy. Let me know!

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks brother and I will… all the best with your channel and your business

@@GrayMatterLifting I’ve been working with the grips (medium width pronated, narrow width supinated) for over a month - I LOVE them! Thinking of getting another.. thinking of medium widith neutral or medium with supinated… I like supinated grip because it works my biceps.. but a neutral does too to a degree. What would you suggest?

@@pbennett13 glad to hear you are enjoying them. For me, the mediums are the best. So if you have the medium pronate, I'd grab the medium supinate. Very good for low rows and pulldowns. I haven't used the neutral but it's on my future list (need more wall space lol).

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks… and even the supinated grip is really a 45 degree angle, so you’re getting some neutral work, but I was thinking neutral just to say I have the full variety of grips

What are you going to use it for? Landmine work? Pulldowns? Seated rows?

@@GrayMatterLifting pulldowns and seated rows!

@@jelle2960 just one for that, id go medium supinared.

@@GrayMatterLifting so i could do Borth pulldowns and rows with the supinated

@@jelle2960 yep, the mediums are great all around. I like the pornated more if you plan to use with a landmine, but the supinated is my favorite all around cable selection. Great for both pulldowns and seated rows.

I got mine straight from their website. Search MAXAGRIP and I believe you'll find them.

Thank you I got it!

@@jtm0725 let me know what you get and how you like them when they show up.

Supinated

@@GrayMatterLifting How can you answer the question when you have not tested the medium neutral?

@@nolly485 good call. I normally put the caveat that it's between the two I own. I must have missed that in that comment. Thanks for calling me on it. I've heard from most people who have the full lineup, that the medium Supinate is their favorite. I'd like to grab a medium neutral at some point, but no room currently.

@@GrayMatterLifting Hi, just placed an order for the MAG Medium in both Supinate and Neutral and the MAG close in Supinate. Expensive in the UK £145 each without delivery.

@@nolly485 yeah it's pretty rough. There's a UK company who makes their own versions, not sure if it would save you any money.

Check the description. I ended up writing one instead of filming one. Long story short... They are still badass, look brand new, and get abused multiple times a week. Highly recommend.

Not a PT by any means, but the pressure from these is NOT in the hands and arms. That's kind of the entire point. The "hook" grip you have, really let's you hold tight without any compromises.

Yeah shipping is rough. You'd be better off buying a couple if you were gonna do it, cause I don't think it impacts shipping much.

@@GrayMatterLifting I think the shipping cost is calculated by size and weight too so the bigger/heavier the package the more you pay :( ill look into that tho thanks for giving me the recommendation!

@@ZauxieMoto yeah but it shouldn't be an exponential increase. Basically, shipping one attachment twice, is going to be more expensive than shipping two attachments at once. So if you are going to go for it, really go for it. Side note... there's a company in the UK I think that makes similar handles. Not the original obviously, but not quite going down the Chinese import knockoff route either

@@GrayMatterLifting you happen to have a name or a link to there website? if i cant work out something with MAG? Thanks man again for the help!

@@ZauxieMoto their website is bugging out, but here is their Instagram with them: instagram.com/p/CUpLEKZgylv/?

It still confuses me that they aren't

@@GrayMatterLifting would literally buy the whole lot, but their shipping option is prohibiitibely expensive to New Zealand. Need rogues economy of scale

@@goldencatpat yeah their internet game is weak. Website is lacking, pretty much non existent on social media, etc. It's unfortunate for such a solid product to be limited in that way.

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks again man for your review. By chance a gym in the city next to me had them and was able to try out the everything but the wide grip. Gonna bite the bullet and get a stack. Was surprised most by medium neutral which felt really nice.

@@goldencatpat and now you have me questioning buying the medium neutral again lol... That's the only one on my radar. Hope you enjoy them, I think they are fantastic.

Not sure what you mean? Meadows rows are great, but even John Meadows didn't rank them as his best back development exercise.

Sure, but just because something worked in the past doesn't mean we don't have better now. And comparing any mere mortals to Arnold? The dude was better proportioned as a 16 year old than 95% of bodybuilder ever will be lol

We aren’t Arnold..

@@GrayMatterLifting not to mention those of us who don't want to get on gear, but still want results.

@@mikelarue7750 for sure. As a natural lifter, I'll take every little extra step in the right direction I can take.

Ha! Thanks man, appreciate it. I don't do affiliate stuff, just like putting out content I'd enjoy myself. If they wanted to send me the other handles I wouldn't complain though 😄

@@GrayMatterLifting just purchased the medium pronate and close grip supinate. Great content man, Appreciate it!

@@timmz54 great attachments. If you have a way to hook it up, try pull ups with the close grip. I use an ankle cuff wrapped around my pull up bar.

@@GrayMatterLifting I was thinking about that. Same with the medium grip in a landmine set up. Does it slide on the bar?

@@timmz54 for the landmine, I typically use my Proloc 2 Collars that have a carabiner attachment. That said, you could get it done a bunch of ways, I'd just put it on the sleeve, and buy yourself a little slack with a small chain. That way you get full ROM.

Appreciate the feedback. I don't have any special camera accessories like light backgrounds or anything...

Let's go ahead and agree that yes, you can build a fantastic back WITHOUT literally any special tools at all. There are like, 10 people with Dorian Yates genetics on the planet right now... MAYBE. Plus, I don't inject my weight in PEDs, so I'll take whatever edge I can get in equipment.

Joe Gray well said

I love the MAGs. If I'm building a big back, my go to would be... a landmine for landmine row variations... seated cable rows with the MAGs, some pulldowns with the MAGs, and deadlift variations. If I'm grabbing two MAGs only, I'm probably taking the supinated and pronated mediums.