Nope! Great question to ask during their AMA though.

@@mikejensen1473 it's pretty dang close. A little different, but close enough that unless if you are TRYING to compare them, you likely aren't noticing it. Little differences in the motor engaging vs gravity and some physics stuff. But in general, same idea.

@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks! Great content too!

@@mikejensen1473 thank you!

@@sagerkoheel3068 I think you have the right thought processes... definitely a difficult decision

@@stevesorensen9648 yeah there was some decent community support for Mutant Metals, and Rogue made a move. Let me know how you like what you get.

@@GrayMatterLifting Will do. Should have it by the end of next week.

@@Snerdles not positive on the extent of the drop set, buy he did mention that the app has Drop Set functionality. So I would assume something similar to that

@@jeffferguson69 yeah that $499 price is solid

@@Nick19837 from the little I've seen, yea. Good question to ask during their AMA though.

Why are you thinking you'd need the dialed motion? Isn't that just an extra piece?

@@GrayMatterLifting faster to move the cable exit point up and down. It may be overkill, but I think there could be some value in combining these new types of resistance to a traditional machine. Like what if you had 2 or 3 cable machines in your garage but instead of needing to load them with plates or have a stack for each one, you could connect on of these to whichever machine you were using. Get the optimal bio-mechanics of a machine with a quickly movable, smart resistance source.

​@@fwiffo42exactly turn any normal machine or cable setup into basically a prime machine strength curve , applications are endless

@@fwiffo42 totally with you on the machine. I'm not seeing a huge win with the Dialed Motion though. You'd be connecting a pully system to a pully system, which seems redundant. I could get behind if the Dialed Motion was a dedicated Low Row or something, but I believe these swivel, can mount on basically anything, so you should be able to with a quick adjustment drop it anywhere on the rack.

@@rodolfomedini9931 yeah man, I've had half a dozen people message me about it before this chat. Glad I was able to connect with him

@@fatboitino2 yes the BLUSM are the better knock offs. I might try them in the future, we'll see. I personally disagree with the Prime being better for a home gym, as I'd rather have two or three great attachments than 1 pretty good one, even if it takes up a little more wall storage space. But I totally get your stance there, and it highly depends on the home gym.

@@GrayMatterLifting agreed. I personally lack storage and have many attachments-so, I was coming more from that standpoint. I also prefer the Ro-T8 handles for rows, and Mag rips on pulldowns (generally). Either way, official products normally are far better

@@leftyrighty6059 yep! Should be interesting

@@MickeyEyez kind of. I've got the Beyond Power VOLTRA I, and there are other cable style machines coming out soon. Im not positive that I can add one from Rogue, so if you absolutely need a cable stack in your rack, this probably isn't the way to go. I'm honestly not positive, and I think a rack has a lot to do with your space and training. If you don't do a lot of heavy compound lifts, I'd 100% be looking at the Prime Prodigy Rack, that thing does everything. But I like a clean space for Squats, Bench, and Deadlift inside a rack.

Very clear that they have a goal, and they are working towards... make good stuff affordable for everyone

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It shows in the equipment too. I get offers to test these bars that you can add a dumbbell to the end of them for weight, and I'm like... Who is this for? Who designed this? You can see it in Titan's earlier stuff, they had no clue what they were doing and made a TON of missteps.

Agreed, especially at the price. $225 for a full cerakote barbell is nuts.

@@GrayMatterLifting yep! And it’s not your cheapO discount store ones. I would like to see them make a power bar or a 28.5mm mutiuse bar but the one they have now is definitely a winner for those CrossFit type workouts

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@@carps_gym may have to get a power bar in the mix here soon then...

Their pricing is fantastic. Nothing earth shattering in terms of product offerings yet... But they are crushing what they do have available

Appreciate it brotha !

You are correct sir!

They are definitely a really cool idea. They need some tweaks, but really cool idea.

I'll take a look. Honestly I probably did it wrong because I never use the Smith. Starting in the bottom position just isn't conducive for me to get what I want out of it.

Good notes, just pinned this comment for others to see

Yeah I don't blame you. And the front pin is awesome, and really impressed with the full rubber tires.

I've got a couple big strong neighbors, but I think I've got the crown

Yep, I think that's a solid solution. Lock straight for storage, sprints, etc. swivel for mobility.

@@fwiffo42 yeah I like the option to lock or unlock them

@@GrayMatterLifting this also reminds me of those jogging strollers they make for kids with the big wheels in the back. They have some they have the swivel on the front and those size can get crazy too if you don’t have them locked in.

@@carps_gym yep! Few refinements and we might be right there

It's a cool idea, but needs refinement. This feels like they had the idea, were afraid someone else would beat them to market, so they pushed it out there to be first.

@@GrayMatterLifting yeah if you’ve ever pushed a heavy cart like in a warehouse with freight on it and the wheels start going crazy stuff not fun

@@carps_gym yep, worked 5 years in a grocery store, about 2 of that was stocking bread and beer. And then worked at Best Buy in the warehouse for a year. Slow and steady is much better than fast lol

@@GrayMatterLifting exactly

I'm sure we'll see it. XT5 maybe?

No pressure, @xebexfitness 😜

Honestly at half the retail price, you crushed it. You aren't likely to find anything close to this in that budget. That's about what we paid and I've been very happy overall

not good!

Yep! Benji was actually at my house with a test version a couple of weeks back, I've been helping them with design ideas and testing. Should have a finalized version here soon, and my plan would be to do a review.

@@GrayMatterLifting Awesome! Look forward to watching

Hey dude! Chats with Wall Control, I don't think the new Gym Pegboard solution is going to be a completely different solution. As in, the main pegboard itself is likely to be the same thing. My understanding is that we should see some custom hooks and attachments though for the home gym crowd. I would NORMALLY say, go ahead and wait. But they were supposed to officially launch the Gym Pegboard brand last August I think, and here we are almost a full year later and it is still only kind of launched. So I'd say, just go for it, and if they drop some cool stuff in the future you can grab it then.

@@GrayMatterLifting thanks, I contacted them and they replied saying I could just shop on their main site since it was the same products. They also included links to a couple of blog articles that provide tips and part numbers.

@@kyles8391 Fantastic. I'm pretty sure you mentioned you saw this article, but just in case you didn't... graymatterlifting.com/wall-control-comprehensive-guide/ Should have all the hooks and attachments I used.

@@GrayMatterLifting yep, it was from that article that I saw the reference to their Gym Pegboard system 👍

@@GrayMatterLifting looks like they have a refer a friend program, not sure what you get if you refer me but let me know if you want to do that

I've seen them. The hand molds, right? Last I had looked, they weren't widely available. Shipping was going to be hundreds of dollars on their own.

It is the magnetic pin that came with the Mutant Metals Snap Back Rollers.

@@GrayMatterLifting Cool. I didnt know the pins came with it. I'm still waiting on my snap back rollers

I hope they work out for you dude. I honestly hated them, but I know others have had good experiences. Good luck!

@@GrayMatterLifting yeah I’m gonna but some extra carabeaners to put and leave in them

You bet. Reach out to David at Gorilla Strength USA, and tell him what you want, he should be able to make it.

Ha! Glad I could help

Their stuff is fantastic

Thanks dude! I need to check out your Flywheel video. Got it on my to do list

Lol! Too funny

Have used Pioneer gear for years. Really enjoying the Knee Sleeves and wrist wraps recently.

@@carps_gym the knee sleeves are intense. Good stuff dude.

Yes it can. I run into some space constraints with that approach, but it is possible.

Great question. Not in my experience. There is some drain, but not a lot.

@@AhmadAhmad-xh5ll just did a test BTW. In 12 days, it lost 3% without any use.

Thanks dude. This one was tough. It may have looked easy, but that front squat is never easy lol

Not bad right? The leg press and hack squat thing are very intriguing.

@@GrayMatterLifting Yeah, if they feel close to the real thing and you can go heavy enough, it's a game changer.

@@TheCarterHomeGym yep, the leg press looks similar to the Powertec and Body solid pieces where the foot plate isn't moving but your seat is. But that hack squat looks right on. Weight would be my biggest concern.

It looks solid right? Only concern out the gate would be weight. You'd likely need a pretty solid weight stack to make it heavy enough, unless they figured out how to go 1 to 1 ratio, and even then you might be lagging.

@@GrayMatterLifting double gym pins per stack make it look like plate storage

@@rodolfomedini9931 ha!

Thank you, appreciate it.

Couple thoughts in my head... 1) the guide rods and cables and system are meant to have the additional 50lb add ons. So that's a 45lb plate more or less. So I'm only adding an additional 45 or so beyond that. While I'm not excited about it, it's a couple of sets per week total. I think if you had a pretty low quality all in one, you'd have to consider that. Think about how much extra you are adding. Right now, I'm in the comfortable spot. If I moved to 3+ plates I'd start to get real concerned

​@@GrayMatterLiftingthe 50lb additional weight is centered though so that would be fine. The worry with the gym pin is not the cable snapping but more so damage to the guide rods as you have uneven weight distribution being applied. The bushing on the rod is tilted forward as the weight from the gympin is not directly above the stacks. I've heard peoples chrome rods shaving off from the back due to using just a few additional lbs on the gympins

@@abu8492 yep, I gotcha. I will say that I have not seen any issues. There aren't any metal shavings, I don't hear grinding or clicking or anything when using them, I'm not seeing them pull weird... I think this is going to be a... You gotta go with what YOU are comfortable with on your own equipment. So far I've been good. If that changes I will be sure to share it. I know that some "home gym" machines are pretty loose. The cables aren't super tight, the guide rods are kind of free floating, and that would be one where I'd say NO GO. In my marketplace days I handled a few of those. The Inspire FT2 seems to be tight fitting, and smooth enough, that we aren't pulling too hard off axis and causing issues.

@@GrayMatterLifting yep totally agree with this approach. Also keep up the reviews and content, top top quality as usual

@@abu8492 will do, appreciate it

At this point I totally agree. It works, it's nice, but the pricing is not in line with the advancements in the industry.

I'll take a look. I hadn't seen one that integrated into the cable stacks

Wow!!! Just watched the teaser video. The leg press and hack squat style machine set up is bonkers.