NEW 2024 TIMECUTTER vs 2020 TimeCutter 50" - Best Zero Turn Lawn Mower Comparison

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Toro Timecutter Zero Turn has been one of the most loved lawn mowers in the residential space for the last 4 years. So when TORO released it's NEW 2024 Timecutter Max, Chip had his doubts.
Tune-in into this fun conversation as Stu tries to convince Chip why the New 2024 Timecutter is better than chip's personal favorite - the 2020 TORO Timecutter.
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[ PRODUCT(S) DISCUSSED IN THE VIDEO ]
- TORO 50 in. (127 cm) TimeCutter® Max Zero Turn Lawn Mower [77501]
- TORO 50 in. (127 cm) TimeCutter® Zero Turn Lawn Mower [75750]
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[ VIDEO CHAPTERS ]
00:00 Introduction
00:26 Basic Features
02:20 Seat & Handle Comparison
04:34 Control Panel Comparison
5:29 Brake System Comparison
06:36 Deck Lift Comparison
07:51 Smart Speed Control
08:47 Storage & Cup Holder Comparison
10:03 Deck Hang System Comparison
10:58 Deck Floor Pan Comparison
12:06 Tire Comparison
12:52 Frame Comparison
14:44 Fuel Levels Comparison
15:13 Conclusion
17:00 Thank You!
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@patriciajoseph7713 2 ай бұрын

Chip thanks for helping out Al Bladze with the most difficult yard ever. Good job there and wonderful store.

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Thank you. It was a pleasure assisting Al.

@cindyglass5827 2 ай бұрын

Thank-you for all of your Hard work / Supporting Al ! Much Appreciated : )

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Always a pleasure 🙂

@Crown.A 2 ай бұрын

Just picked up a 2024 and this video was highly informative and useful. Thank you!

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

I'm glad it was helpful. Enjoy your new mower 🙂

@caputoskubota337 2 ай бұрын

I drove 60 miles to buy a new Titan my ride from these guys (Ocala location). I had local dealers but these guys have a passion for what they do. Well worth the drive. If anyone is on the fence about these Toro machines they are great go get one. If you are in the area give these guys a chance to earn your business. Sounds like i work for them I dont im just a very impressed customer.

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

That's so nice of you man, really appreciate it!

@shanedoucet8291 14 күн бұрын

I have a 2024 time cutter max with about 15hrs on it. It has already melted and froze up 1 throttle cable. Ordered a new one from toro. Installed it yesterday. After 2hrs of mowing it is melting . The choke cable has melted as well. Any suggestions? I’m thinking of adding some kind of plate over the muffler. The melting is happening right where the cable is attached with clamp at the motor

@lionelhutto3328 Ай бұрын

Great video, they’re putting my 2024 timecutter 50” together now. I can’t wait!

@fieldfilmz 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this comparison. I bought a 54" havoc edition Max about a month ago and recently posted a few videos about it. Totally agree with a lot of your points. The features they removed on the new ones (speed mode, AL forks, etc) really aren't used once you're used to driving it. I bought mine because of the 5" height and 5 gal gas tank. Did not know that the old one didn't have a removable deck plate and am so glad I got one that did. So much easier to clean and repair. I do wish the new one had a way to view the gas level, but it looks like the old one would have been hard to view anyways and gone un-used. Plus, my Troy-Bilt lawn tractor wasn't much easier to view the gas level, though at least I was able to somewhat check the gas level while on the mower.

@thyubernoob 2 ай бұрын

I'm here from Al's channel, very nice of Chip to go and help Al out..

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Hey there, thanks for checking us out. Hope you like the videos on here too 🙂

@mhess427 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining the features and differences. I tried to chat with Toro, Customer Service online and they couldn’t even tell me the difference.

@jdp5704 Ай бұрын

Great video boys. I just picked up a 2024 Max "Havoc" 54" and while waiting for delivery tomorrow watching some vids. I did try a 2023 as well and really enjoyed the low stance of it. But for a few bucks more the 2024 seemed like the better beast overall. I also compared to John Deere 500s, Hustlers and Spartans. For my money the Toro took the cake. I got to test these all on some steep hills as well... even the older smaller Timecutter did fine. Actually I enjoyed it more for being lower and having a low center of gravity versus some of the larger mowers.

@Guitarzan8 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for helping Al !

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Always a pleasure 🙂

@joeking433 Ай бұрын

I have a 2020 50" Timecutter and it's been great! I had a John Deere that was twice as expensive before I got the Toro and it lasted 3 years before the motor blew. This Timecutter has been flawless! Starts the first time even in the spring after sitting all winter! The Kohler 24hp motor runs like a top, doesn't use oil, the deck is really easy to adjust on the fly, it's easy to take the deck off, it's low to the ground so you can bend over and pick up things on the ground, and it's easy to see how much gas you have. I have no complaints!

@mainstreetmower Ай бұрын

That's awesome. We're glad your new Timecutter is treating you right. Thank you for sharing.

@marlenehod 2 ай бұрын

Al B said to check you out, so I am. Great video.

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Thank you🙂

@williamnewsome5169 2 ай бұрын

I have a 2015 Toro Timecutter MX5050 model 74770 with 625 hours and have never had a problem that I would not trade for either of these new mowers. My MX5050 has the serviceable Hydro Gear XT-2800 transmission (very smooth and free of problems) that I work very hard pulling my lawn cart full of mulch (12 - 2.5 c/f bags) weighted aerators and my 25 gallon Brinley Hardy tank sprayer when not mowing my one acre lawn. Additionally, my MX5050 came with that powerful, silky-smooth, 24 hp, and totally trouble-free Kohler 7000 series KT735 engine that uses absolutely zero oil (Mobil1 10-30 synthetic). The cut I get with my Toro bagger is phenomenal! It is always crisp, totally even and flat looking as if professionally cut (even when mowing at 4") and never boggs or labors even when grass gets much taller than it should. The seat that came with it is highly padded, high- back, and with arm rests, which I dearly love, especially when getting on or off the mower. The automatic choke on the engine is very nice, as is the electrically activated parking brakes that are set when lap bars are spread outward. No, they do not make them like they used to - will hang on to my MX5050, thank you! Note: I am a stickler for doing maintenance often before it is due and having sharp blades

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

That's great. Love to see how well you care for your mower. I am sure it will last you a long time

@williamnewsome5169 2 ай бұрын

@mainstreetmower Thanks. For clarification, I did not want to appear to disparage newer mowers on the market. I'm sure each Toro model you highlighted is a wonderful machine and will make many people proud owners. It is so satisfying to climb off your mower and see a manicured lawn! Cheers...

@williamnewsome5169 2 ай бұрын

@@mainstreetmower My Maintenance - Oil changes: Kohler 7000 KT735 - every 25 hours Mobil 1 10w 30 full synthetic w/Kohler branded filter change; Hydro Gear ZT-2800 - oil change e every 100 hours Mobil 1 15w 50 full synthetic w/ Hydro Gear branded oil filters; air filter replacement every 50 hours w/ Kohler branded air filter - clean and oil pre-filter every 12.5 hours; change fuel filter every 50 hours with Kohler branded filter; check and adjust tire pressure every 25 hours (usually during oil change); grease front wheels every 25 hours (usually during oil change); replace blades with freshly sharpened and balanced blades every 25 hours or when edge feels dull; check belts (drive and deck) every 25 hours when oil is changed and replace with Toro branded belts if "rounded" or glazed; check idler pulleys and spindles for binding or any lateral free-play every 50 hours; adjust Kohler series 7000 KT750 valves every 400 hours (note: when checked, they were still perfectly set - recheck at 500 hours and still within specs.; replace spark plugs at 200 hours; after each use, mower is blown off using my leaf blower - I never use water to clean mower due to ability to get into pivot points and electrical connections that can potentially cause problems down the road and lastly, I keep my Toro MX5050 in my mower shed and never leave it out. By now everyone must think I am a mower nut - have been called much worse (wink)! Cheers...

@joeking433 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I have that same Kohler 24hp engine on my MX5000 and it's been amazing! Starts first time every time even after sitting all winter and runs smooth as silk without using any oil! That's the engine you want for your zero turn!

@Rayj576 2 ай бұрын

Great Video.. Good info!

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙂

@PurpleCollarLife Ай бұрын

Interesting comparison. Some totally different views on a few of the points than I mentioned in my recent comparison. For example - I use that “fuel indicator” on my 2020 machine all the time. AND I love those new tires on the back. Thanks for the differences of opinion. It’s always interesting to see how people view features/benefits different based on their experiences/use.

@mainstreetmower Ай бұрын

Agreed, we’ll watch yours, thanks for the feedback!

@mikeyoung7022 2 ай бұрын

Today I went to buy a Ferris because I watched a previous video you posted about the difference between the Toro and Ferris competing models. I wound up buying the Toro for two reasons. I drove the Toro first felt pretty good and comfortable a little tight in the turns plenty of room and power. I then jumped on the Ferris and the first thing that happened was a big puff of smoke from the Briggs. I drove it the same distance and it was a rougher ride but turned a little better felt I had a little more control. The Ferris had a 42 inch deck which was smaller than the Toro 50” but it was not as comfortable as the Toro. It wasn’t about the money just the fact the Toro was much more roomer and comfortable and I trust the Kawasaki engine more than the Briggs.

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

That's awesome. Enjoy your new mower 🙂

@joeking433 Ай бұрын

Briggs doesn't have a very good reputation. I have a 24hp Kohler on my 50" Timecutter and it's been superb in every way for the last 3 years!

@52ponybike Ай бұрын

I bought a new Toro SS5000 50" zero turn about 12 years ago. The Kawasaki engine is by far the best engine ever and the best feature and still runs like a top w/no smoke. The VERY WORST feature is the POS deck! It's total pressed steel junk. I suppose it'd be OK for some town guy with a small lawn. 50" deck actually cuts about 46-48". It takes me 3.5-5 hours to mow my lawn nonstop. Another thing about the worthless deck is it constantly plugged up, and the blades aren't staggered enough as there is always an about 1-2" wide strip of uncut grass between the LH and center blade, no matter how slow I go. Ugh! Last year, I bought a new Husqvarna 54" zero turn with the exact same bullet proof Kawasaki engine. THAT was the main reason for buying it. The Toro 12 years ago cost $3100, the most I'd ever paid for a mower. The Husky was $2895, also with a pressed steel deck but has thinner steel blades that wear out quickly. The Husky's gas tank has no level view, ugh. Two wrongs don't make a right. I guess I should have gotten a loan and bought a commercial grade manufactured deck mower for more than triple or quadruple the price. I will NOT be buying any Toro mower ever again... nor a Husky. One more thing, both brands have ultra convenient (spigots?) to hook up a garden hose to clean the decks. BUT no matter how long you run the water, it will not clean out the 'shelf' along the front. That must be done by hand, ugh. So, you can keep your ugh, Florida mowers made 70 miles away in Minnesota. Strong PASS for me. Maybe a Kubota or even a Grasshopper next time but for now I'll just suffer.

@princemdirfan5329 2 ай бұрын

M&D lawn care deserves new bigger mower... We hope you guys can sponsor them.

@MrJvincent4 2 ай бұрын

I dont know about everyone else, but I definitely use the gas gauge on my Timecutter 😂

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

That's good to know.

@rikiconcepcion471 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for your videos! I find them very interesting, a question that I would appreciate if you answered, what is the difference between the Ak30 and the AK30S? No matter how much I search on Google, I can't find an answer. Thank you so much.

@TheAaronReynolds 2 ай бұрын

Love it! You convinced me to buy the 2024 today! I’m in the Nashville area. When should dealers start seeing them coming in? They don’t have it in stock here yet.

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Any day now, put the pressure on your dealer!

@TomSpielmaker 2 ай бұрын

Great comparison!!! You have me sold on getting the 2024 model. One question: Do you know why the Blade Tip Speed for the TimeCutter Max 50 slowed down from the 2023 model that was 18,330 ft/min to the new 2024 model at 17,600 ft/min of which it has the same Kawasaki motor?

@georgethompson9162 24 күн бұрын

I have the older model and LOVE IT but the new one does look sweet. Thinking about updating. My question is "Does the bagger system for the older model fit the newer MAX?"

@edgarortiz6620 2 ай бұрын

I recently purchased the Timecutter MAX 54" model and discovered that the Motion-Control Levers aren't aligned properly. No matter how I adjust the handles or swap them around, they remain uneven. I don't know if this is normal on the MAX. I would love it if you could make a video on how to set properly the Timecutter MAX, handles, speed, etc... By the way, thanks a lot for your videos, I learn a lot thanks to you.

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

I think i might be able to help. Check out this video we did for the older models that might work for this too. Let us know if you get to test it. Thank you. Here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNR0aNykuMi5no0.html

@lionelhutto3328 Ай бұрын

One thing wasn’t mentioned is the 23 has a top loaded 3 gallon tank while the 24 comes with a side loaded 5 gallon tank. Big deal to me, thanks again.

@harryerhart5978 3 ай бұрын

Ok l will let you know on Monday 😊

@lanesteele240 25 күн бұрын

Is the unit they sell in the big box stores the same unit sold in the store

@deatondavid 2 ай бұрын

What is the forward cut speed

@tractorgt Ай бұрын

As someone who mows 75 lawns a week and uses exmark professional equipment, I am constantly looking at these as a backup for when the inevitable happens and my 60 in Lazer Z goes in the shop. You mention that "you've had landscapers use them" and I'm curious as to why a mower costing this much wouldn't be recommended for my accounts? Is it because it just can't handle being run for 6 hours a day? I don't do "commercial" accounts, just reg homes so I'm curious as to if this could get the jobs done in a pinch while I wait 3-4 weeks every time for the fix it shop to get my main mower back. 🤷

@hypervigilance1465 3 ай бұрын

but i do love my 50 inch timecutter only thing i do not like is the tires go flat everytime.

@rickyclark9052 2 ай бұрын

Time Cutter vs TC max vs Titan vs Titan Max PLEASE.

@bernardcaillouet5565 Ай бұрын

I own a 2023 50 inch Timecutter and I use the gas gauge window. Can you convince Toro to give us a rubber chute cover like on the Titan?

@jakespeckman1 3 ай бұрын

What about 42" or 38" decks ... I love my '21 42" as it fit past most gates and works for us home+ owners

@mainstreetmower 3 ай бұрын

The new timecutter Max is available in 50, 54 and 60”

@hypervigilance1465 3 ай бұрын

I have a 2023 50 inch timecutter i want the electric one now.

@joeking433 Ай бұрын

I'm not sure electric zero turns are quite there yet. The electric Timecutter is only 42" and will cut 1.6 acres on a charge and costs $6500.

@williamwolfe3277 Ай бұрын

I just got a 23 model 54 inch, 4,000$ you’d think it would have an hour meter!

@ceciliaarleneperalta-vinlu3292 2 ай бұрын

I saw you on al bladez latest video 😊

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Hey there

@turtlethefam7121 2 ай бұрын

I like my toro timecutter 50 I got it February 2023 all though I don't like that tires keep going flat especially the spindle tires.

@brucemaessen2959 3 ай бұрын

I have one problem with my 2023 54 myride is when I want to turn right the right side hydro doesn't do anything. I guess nascar built mine.

@mainstreetmower 3 ай бұрын

We have seen a few cases of those symptoms exactly. We have been able to warranty a new right side hydro, be sure to take to your dealer before your warranty expires (3 yr warranty)

@bizzibam3890 3 ай бұрын

Do they have a new model for the 34 in to ?

@mainstreetmower 3 ай бұрын

Same frame, new engine, it now features a 22-hp Briggs V-twin, and it has great sound cdn.thetorocompany.com/api/assetstorage/623_2f9bfc40-1717-4627-a0dd-ab6092fe9823

@ciaraclarke1488 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for helping Al out chip

@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely, our pleasure. 🙂

@harryerhart5978 3 ай бұрын

Great new design Toro is a great mower anybody want to buy a Scag Tiger Cat 2 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

@mainstreetmower 3 ай бұрын

We’ll trade it Harry!

@Dale37 2 ай бұрын

No hour meter is silly and almost a deal breaker. Luckily, you can add one for cheap. I don't have any Toro experience. They look like nice mowers.

@joeking433 Ай бұрын

Is it hard to install?

@Dale37 Ай бұрын

@joeking433 Finding a place to mount the display is the hardest part. Instructions are pretty straight forward on the wiring.

@travisherk25 Ай бұрын

@@Dale37There is a spot for the hour meter on the control panel. You can feel it underneath the decal that is around the controls

@BNA90 2 ай бұрын

Are they going to fix the melting throttle cable?

@joeking433 Ай бұрын

What year models does that occur?

@BNA90 Ай бұрын

@@joeking433 the new ones. 2024

@BNA90 Ай бұрын

They run the throttle cable too close to the exhaust and it melts the black plastic on the outside and it jams up the throttle.

@shanedoucet8291 13 күн бұрын

I have 12 hrs of use on my 2024 time cutter max 50” throttle cable melted and froze up. Installed a new cable and it melted after 2 hrs of use. The choke cable had also melted

@dobe1124 2 ай бұрын

Neither has an hour meter and they took the armrests off the new one.........both should be standard on a machine of this price point.

@erichollister5753 Ай бұрын

Tires are too aggressive ! leaves torn up spots when turning front axel dose not pivot when going around trees or irregular grade things get (interesting) hrs meter and fuel gauge sorely missed

@turtlethefam7121 2 ай бұрын

I don't got blower to blow off mower I can't afford one. I see all the stuff al blades and I could use one of the hedge trimmers and chainsaw like he uses

@leechburglights 28 күн бұрын

Get a cheap leaf blower off of Market Place. I use an electric one I got at a garage sale for $25.

@Press1for 3 ай бұрын

Toro and Spartan sitting in a tree= Hello "This is the front yard"........ howls 42i nches of Floritam fury.....

@mikeking1870 2 ай бұрын

Looks like they copied cub cadets xt1 on alot of there upgrades. Less for more

@BillChase-qm8ud 2 ай бұрын

needs arm rests

@ericteal7118 2 ай бұрын

Toro has never been my favorite brand to start with. When I first began to see their name on yard equipment, I bought a push mower . This was years ago , AND , if they make weed eaters ,( I believe they do ), I bought one of those as well , possibly two. Everything I bought from that brand performed mediocre at best.. it just never did impress me at all. So I can’t see spending this kind of money on a zero turn , from a company that let me down in their early days. Early days for any business should be as close to flawless as possible to build the reputation.. they didn’t . I’m in the market for a zero turn to , right now ! Cash money ! I just have to find something worth the money these companies are asking for .

@chiphawthorne4248 2 ай бұрын

Dang sorry I hear this. Yes, in the past, Toro has made string trimmers, and they were not that good. It was something they had to carry to sell Mowers at the big box stores , so they had them made through a third-party . But their mowers they do make and they are fantastic. They’ve been making Mowers for over 100 years. Every blade of PGA golf course grass is cut with a Toro. Disney World is cut with a Toro. It is unfortunate that your only Toro experience is from their least expensive entry level product. If you are serious about buying a good Zero Turn Toro in my opinion is the best option. They have the best dealer network, best customer service, fastest parts turnaround, best quality of cut and incredible warranties. It would be worth your time to good by a real toro dealer and see for yourself self. If your in Florida stop by MainStreetMower.