Major revelation emerges following deadly Baltimore Bridge collapse

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24 күн бұрын

New details and claims have emerged following the deadly bridge collapse in Balitmore.

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@rickallmightyjones6189
@rickallmightyjones6189 19 күн бұрын
Those people who died oh the bridge just doing their jobs deserve to have their families taken care of and not just the lawyers
@janetking7542
@janetking7542 18 күн бұрын
There were immigrants not her legally to work. So there's that
@YaHsServent
@YaHsServent 18 күн бұрын
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@Nuttyirishman85
@Nuttyirishman85 17 күн бұрын
They shouldn’t have been hired in the first place.
@yungweezer
@yungweezer 16 күн бұрын
@@YaHsServentbuddy thinks this is church service 😂
@DefundtheIRS1776
@DefundtheIRS1776 16 күн бұрын
They were illegals
@billbright1755
@billbright1755 19 күн бұрын
45 million for that kind of damage is a joke. Like putting a bandaid on a severed leg.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 17 күн бұрын
Ship owners have limited liability by statute.
@edstevens4439
@edstevens4439 16 күн бұрын
The magnitude of that disaster will never be recovered; no company has assets that large.
@cyberking1128
@cyberking1128 16 күн бұрын
You can't charge someone or something they can never reasonably pay. You own a restaurant at the base of a 80 storey building, your kitchen catches fire and burns the building down, it's a total loss. You aren't expected to replace the building. You'll be charged something decided by the court. 45m is a large fine for a shipping company imo.
@xmiller7691
@xmiller7691 16 күн бұрын
​@@cyberking1128A fine is something you pay for violating a law. Damages are what you pay for killing people and destroying property ( as a result of violating a law). They are not the same thing.
@charliepearson1678
@charliepearson1678 14 күн бұрын
@@xmiller7691 Thank you
@orbitingeyes2540
@orbitingeyes2540 21 күн бұрын
Not to mention that they killed 6 workers on the bridge! $43M doesn't even cover the wrongful death suit.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 20 күн бұрын
Nothing has been officially established about the root cause(s).
@ronjohnson1800
@ronjohnson1800 19 күн бұрын
May be true but if you bankrupt the company what do you get- possibly zero
@orbitingeyes2540
@orbitingeyes2540 19 күн бұрын
@@ronjohnson1800 the ship itself is probably worth $43M or more.
@tuck6464
@tuck6464 18 күн бұрын
@@ronjohnson1800 I assure you the bankruptcy paperwork is complete and ready to be filed in a moments notice. As well as paperwork for a new company to resume business with.
@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg
@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg 18 күн бұрын
Your troops killed 250,000 kids in iraq stop crying
@norman7179
@norman7179 19 күн бұрын
They pass the cost to the consumer but after the cause is resolved, the price remains at the higher level.
@Chez8922-kf6cy
@Chez8922-kf6cy 18 күн бұрын
The wealthy elite decide these matters in our modern capitalist society. It would be in your best interest to remember that when voting.
@norman7179
@norman7179 18 күн бұрын
@@Chez8922-kf6cy " Consumers will bear the cost of the losses but none of the recovery will find it's way back to the consumer. That's a one way street by design. "
@lemmdus2119
@lemmdus2119 16 күн бұрын
@@Chez8922-kf6cy Watch how the wealthy elite vote and vote the exact opposite, especially in MD!
@stephenw2992
@stephenw2992 16 күн бұрын
Bidenflation means by the time supply returns to normal inflation will have increased the prices that much anyway
@debpratt52
@debpratt52 14 күн бұрын
@@Chez8922-kf6cy The wealthy elite exist in communist and socialist countries, too. They are just plain evil, and pull the strings around the globe.
@amycovey6595
@amycovey6595 18 күн бұрын
NO CAP NO WAY NO HOW!!!! If you break it you bought it!!!! In their case they destroyed a bridge and killed people!!!!
@Bawdale
@Bawdale 16 күн бұрын
Tell that to American oil companies wrecking Africa
@robertjones3568
@robertjones3568 14 күн бұрын
nevertheless due to the bridge not having any protections , as other bridges do, for a foreseeable event then others are liable too. It’s complicated, thus the lawyers will benefit the most. Very sad for the workers on the bridge and their families.
@PeterFranks-ls5qw
@PeterFranks-ls5qw 13 күн бұрын
this bridge broke 40 yrs ago,the united states gov,t knew this,united syates has money to start wars but not to fic bridges.10000 bridges neeed fixing in the states but biden sends money to istreal and ukraine to continue losin wars
@scotthensley8083
@scotthensley8083 19 күн бұрын
This will be in court for decades
@id10t98
@id10t98 14 күн бұрын
Maritime law is ancient and the SCOTUS is corrupt. Clarence Thomas and Alito will take a new motorhome, a few fishing trips and private jet rides to make it go away for the company.
@gr8dvd
@gr8dvd 11 күн бұрын
Will seem so but with court reforms, expect more like 12-15y. BTW ‘court reforms’ /sarcasm …as a former tech policy analyst for NJ-OMB judiciary the MOST resistant to adopting efficiency solutions. Backlogs largely of their own making.
@drummerdaveshouse5848
@drummerdaveshouse5848 22 күн бұрын
There was never any doubt in my mind that sooner or later we were going to learn that power failure should’ve never happened and of course, now we know why.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 20 күн бұрын
That remains to be proven. It's only conjecture at this point in time.
@mahbriggs
@mahbriggs 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, the politicians are just looking for money!
@mkay1957
@mkay1957 18 күн бұрын
Longshoremen and other people on the docks said the ship was having trouble with the electrical system the day after the ship brought the bridge down.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 18 күн бұрын
@@mkay1957 Having electrical problems after the collision isn't relevant.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 18 күн бұрын
@@mkay1957 How is having electrical problems after the collision relevant?
@tedfisk1211
@tedfisk1211 19 күн бұрын
No cap on liability. The US should go after the owner and manager and any other company involved with the Dali and sue them into oblivion
@gfroese4799
@gfroese4799 17 күн бұрын
I agree, but then who are you going to get to send ships to the US
@tradde11
@tradde11 17 күн бұрын
@@gfroese4799 They need the business so there is that.
@reggietullos7283
@reggietullos7283 16 күн бұрын
And you can go after as many people as you wish but you are obligated to follow the current law. You can certainly change it for future situations. But we have to follow OUR laws.
@SD-vy7gj
@SD-vy7gj 15 күн бұрын
Please. The US never goes for the people at the top. It would set a dangerous president again the US home groan, broding school broken, sociopathic, billionair class.
@ArthurvanH0udt
@ArthurvanH0udt 14 күн бұрын
thing is that sea law sets the cap at max the value of the ship plus cargo. which imho will not be enough!!
@ljb4541
@ljb4541 21 күн бұрын
This ship was banned from leaving Australia as the company wouldn't pay their crew and they hadn't been off the ship for over 13 months
@HOOOLD_ON
@HOOOLD_ON 19 күн бұрын
You say so, but where did you get this information from? I mean, you could say whatever you want but if you have nothing to back up your claims, then you got nothing. Economics aside, what does this have to do with what happened?
@Chez8922-kf6cy
@Chez8922-kf6cy 18 күн бұрын
I wonder if the crew quit fixing things in retaliation. Or worse yet sabotaged something.
@uwiwithanuzi
@uwiwithanuzi 18 күн бұрын
@@HOOOLD_ON The Sydney Morning Herald reported that about the ship's owners on March 28. But you're obviously too much of a f*cking moron to know that.
@HOOOLD_ON
@HOOOLD_ON 18 күн бұрын
@@Chez8922-kf6cy You are basing your thoughts on what ljb4541 said. He has not provided any evidence of his claims. I am pretty sure the crew manning the ship now is not the same as the one ljb4541 talks about and Im still waiting for some evidence of his claims. Mind you, the ship _did_ leave Australia, which means any potential conflicts were resolved. If I were a garage based five year old not being paid for what i did, I'd probably sabotage something, but as a grownup sea farer I wouldnt even think of endangering the very vessel Im on. You seem to be the kind of guy that would drill a hole in your canoe to let the water out.
@Mahinskerrr
@Mahinskerrr 17 күн бұрын
@@HOOOLD_ONit shows the captain of the ship don’t give af
@NicholasMaietta
@NicholasMaietta 15 күн бұрын
Why is this only a lawsuit. There needs to be criminal charges.
@JB-gg4yy
@JB-gg4yy 11 күн бұрын
Lol
@victorjeffers1993
@victorjeffers1993 18 күн бұрын
No consumers shouldnt be punished for that F up it should be passed along to the ship owners as well as the cost of the rebuilding of the bridge and for those dock workers who made be laid off !
@johnn17golf
@johnn17golf 14 күн бұрын
Ship owners will pass cost kn to customers who will pass it on to consumers. We always pay in the end, not the shareholders & directors. Another reason we need that great reset WEF was discussing.
@merryfergie
@merryfergie 13 күн бұрын
The consumers always pays, Otherwise, there would be a decrease in profit margins.
@nospamallowed4890
@nospamallowed4890 13 күн бұрын
Why call this a major revelation? Even on the day of the accident there were reports that this ship had a documented history of problems with the systems that caused the accident.
@_mylastname
@_mylastname 11 күн бұрын
That's probably why they used this particular ship .. Easy excuse...
@lokiva8540
@lokiva8540 10 күн бұрын
Those reports came from mariners and engineers, who have different standards for honesty than advertising hucksters.
@nospamallowed4890
@nospamallowed4890 10 күн бұрын
@@lokiva8540The report I saw quoted inspection records from various marine authorities.
@Howoldareweanywayyipes
@Howoldareweanywayyipes 16 күн бұрын
A group of people need to go to prison.
@tm13tube
@tm13tube 19 күн бұрын
Passing costs along means people who had nothing to do with this fiasco, no idea the ship needed repair end up paying one way or another. It is inherently unfair.
@mahbriggs
@mahbriggs 18 күн бұрын
That is life! You haven't figured that out yet? By the way, passing cost on is the normal everyday part of doing business! Learn some economics!
@TimeSurfer206
@TimeSurfer206 18 күн бұрын
A disaster anywhere in this world can/will have a ripple effect. A war in the wheat fields of Ukraine drives up the wheat prices for us all. Every time we buy a loaf of bread, we are paying the price for Blyatimir Putain wanting to get the title of "Emperor" before he dies. Welcome to Earth.
@Chez8922-kf6cy
@Chez8922-kf6cy 18 күн бұрын
@tm13tube, Right on. Why is the consumer always the scapegoat and the victim? Because capitalism? These businesses use the excuse of supply and demand dictating market prices, if that was the case the business would be eating the cost of their mistake.
@Chez8922-kf6cy
@Chez8922-kf6cy 18 күн бұрын
@tm13tube, @mahbriggs seems to be saying "Because capitalism and there's nothing you can do about it."
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 18 күн бұрын
Remember, they have to change shipping means, different transportation had to be arranged, raising the costs.
@leiag201
@leiag201 15 күн бұрын
Whoever was the genius that allowed a ship of that size to transit under the bridge without tug support, should be the one put behind bars first. Then the captain, the engineer and then the pilot
@stewiesaidthat
@stewiesaidthat 13 күн бұрын
Once the vessel gets to the open channel, the tugs are dismissed.
@leiag201
@leiag201 13 күн бұрын
@@stewiesaidthat right, but he still had to go under the bridge.
@jimgraham290
@jimgraham290 13 күн бұрын
@stewiesaidthat That is a Port of Baltimore rule that came about because of the cost requirements of the Tugs. ​The Port Authorities should have required that given the inferior protection that was in place on the bridge supports based on today's standards.
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 13 күн бұрын
A seaworthy vessel wouldn't need tug support
@jimgraham290
@jimgraham290 13 күн бұрын
@@stevecarter8810 And the bridge would not need any protection around it's piers...
@NDcompetitiveshooter
@NDcompetitiveshooter 18 күн бұрын
The damages should include reimbursing everyone that has to pay for the increased costs of goods that normally come through the port.
@denningmp37
@denningmp37 16 күн бұрын
And how would that work?
@davidjones-vx9ju
@davidjones-vx9ju 16 күн бұрын
@@denningmp37 it wouldn't
@NDcompetitiveshooter
@NDcompetitiveshooter 14 күн бұрын
@@denningmp37 The companies that bring their products to market through the port calculate the additional surcharge and make it a separate line item. Purchasers would use their invoice as evidence of the claim of damages eligible for reimbursement.
@kevinosullivan2440
@kevinosullivan2440 15 күн бұрын
It kind of looks like it was aiming straight for it.
@mkneely4539
@mkneely4539 15 күн бұрын
Nothing about this looks accidental.
@davidmanley9437
@davidmanley9437 17 күн бұрын
If the cargo line was liable, as it appears that it is.The company SHOULD BE COMPLETELY FINED FOR ALL OF THE DAMAGES .NO HOLES BARRED
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 17 күн бұрын
It's actually "no holds barred", but let's go with it how you wrote it anyhow 😅
@butchmitch731
@butchmitch731 15 күн бұрын
Edit: " no 'holds' barred " And no, none whatsoever 😮
@goldfieldgary
@goldfieldgary 15 күн бұрын
Did you mean "no holes bared"?
@YouTubeOdyssey
@YouTubeOdyssey 4 күн бұрын
I have actually heard a lewd joke that uses " no holes barred ' written on a T-shirt as the punch-line, so I get why you maybe got the spelling wrong!
@robertoacevedo3805
@robertoacevedo3805 13 күн бұрын
I’ve worked on these ships. Gonna let you in on something. A lot of these ships have major major mechanical and structural problems. Many time have I seen the owner or managers of these shipping companies wait till the last moment to repair these ships. Seen it time and time again. They wait for something to become a real problem before they do anything about it.
@sallytidwell7804
@sallytidwell7804 19 күн бұрын
Lives were lost and Totally destroyed the bridge!
@douglasweller9709
@douglasweller9709 19 күн бұрын
Okay , if it had known problems why didn’t they use tugs to get it out of the safely. The answer is money??? Right ????
@olafeklund6200
@olafeklund6200 14 күн бұрын
Once the power failed and that 96,000 ton behemoth started to drift there was no way any number of tugs would have been able to prevent the collision.
@douglasweller9709
@douglasweller9709 13 күн бұрын
@@olafeklund6200 that’s very true but that ship had a history of issues!
@chrisl3540
@chrisl3540 22 күн бұрын
Industries and distributers unaffected by this will say "well that bridge collapsed so we have to raise prices 400%"
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 21 күн бұрын
Sure, you can raise prices by 400%. Assuming people won’t just buy from someone else. That’s how the free market works.
@johnhall3570
@johnhall3570 21 күн бұрын
⁠@@neilkurzman4907Assuming, of course, that people CAN buy from someone else! Not everyone has that option, especially if you’re poor and live in a food desert area.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 21 күн бұрын
@@johnhall3570 Yeah, that has nothing to do with this situation.
@johnhall3570
@johnhall3570 21 күн бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 But rising consumer goods prices as a result of this disaster is the basis of this thread!
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 21 күн бұрын
@@johnhall3570 It’s a localized supply restriction that’s going to affect that area but not 400% What it will affect is because shipping in that area becomes more expensive. It’s moved to other parts and people lose their job. He used 400% because it made his conspiracy theory sound better. Allowing him to ignore reality.
@debramayne2934
@debramayne2934 16 күн бұрын
Their negligence unalived 6 souls.
@merryfergie
@merryfergie 13 күн бұрын
All 6, documented immigrant workers, Doing jobs, at hours, No one else would do
@MrTr2500
@MrTr2500 20 күн бұрын
This bridge spanning a limited shipping space to the Port of Baltimore, was a ticking time bomb. Surely the port authority should have recognised the fact that as the years went by the ships coming into the river and more importantly under the bridge, were getting larger and if a problem occurred could, at the very least, do some serious damage to it. Proper planning by the port authority should have included buying tugboats capable of escorting huge ships of this size from the wharf areas out to beyond the bridge structure and visa versa. I really don’t think that the housekeeping at such a large and vital port was adequate. Thanks.
@funnyfarm5555
@funnyfarm5555 20 күн бұрын
This port should have long ago redesigned and increased the size of their 'Dolphins' (channel bumpers). It's like they have ones for the size of a small commercial fishing boat and today we now have mega ships. Politics.
@Infernal_Elf
@Infernal_Elf 18 күн бұрын
absolutely
@Mahinskerrr
@Mahinskerrr 17 күн бұрын
Or the captains of the ships could actually do repairs and preventative maintenance instead of being penny pinching Weinburgs 🤷🏼‍♂️
@bigk4755
@bigk4755 17 күн бұрын
There is a huge conflict of interests around requiring tugboats, and for how long. The governing authority that operates the harbor sets the rules around tugboat requirements, and in this instance that is the state of Maryland. The shipping companies pay for tugboat services, which are fairly steep. And then the last source of conflict in this relationship is the consumers who all want their goods as cheaply as possible. Seems that I recall reading that this barge had contracted for 2 tugs to pull them from the dock and into the shipping channel, which is what the port required, at a cost of just north of $18,000.
@michellebyrom6551
@michellebyrom6551 13 күн бұрын
​@bigk4755 that is in line with shipping experts commenting online within hours of the event. Two tugs to reach the open channel was standard. The ship was then under its own power and would have passed safely along the channel had the power not failed. There was also a port pilot on the bridge to ensure the correct route was followed. When the power failed, physics took over and steered the ship off course with inadequate space to stop. An anchor has been dropped to counteract the steering but was not enough.
@acmr3215
@acmr3215 17 күн бұрын
How disgusting is it they talk all about the port and money....what about the families that BURIED LOVED ONES?? Who's talking for them?
@Rael_486
@Rael_486 20 күн бұрын
This is what I've been talking about since the wreck. 😮
@doolittlegeorge
@doolittlegeorge 21 күн бұрын
Remarkable news the Bridge didn't simply just collapse! Something hit it!
@edfrawley4356
@edfrawley4356 21 күн бұрын
The state is responsible for the bridge not being protected from a collision in a busy port. The grounding of the Dali is irresponsible but it should have never been able to touch the bridge supports.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 20 күн бұрын
That's a rather mindless thing to say.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 20 күн бұрын
​@@edfrawley4356You have a point.
@edfrawley4356
@edfrawley4356 20 күн бұрын
@@joewoodchuck3824 How so? neglecting to protect a bridge in a busy harbor is a borderline criminal oversight.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 20 күн бұрын
@@edfrawley4356 It's a matter of opinion. You might want to note that there's no precedent for that viewpoint.
@DennisHansen
@DennisHansen 13 күн бұрын
I remember the captain of the Valdez in Alaska
@PeterFranks-ls5qw
@PeterFranks-ls5qw 13 күн бұрын
that bridge needed to be replaced 40 years ago when it was deemed not safe for traffic
@OmegaTou
@OmegaTou 13 күн бұрын
Politicians LOVE to pass the buck. How many years or decades have engineers been recommending the installation of bridge pier protection? The shipping company definitely screwed up, but bankrupting them isn't going to cover all the expenses incurred. An ounce of prevention...
@joshuacress5174
@joshuacress5174 13 күн бұрын
Money money money. WHAT ABOUT LIFE LIFE LIFE? 🤬
@Willy-Wacker
@Willy-Wacker 17 күн бұрын
6 people died. What about them?
@JiggyPapason
@JiggyPapason 18 күн бұрын
everybody is going to get sued. The pillars were not properly protected either.
@davidjones-vx9ju
@davidjones-vx9ju 16 күн бұрын
don't blame the bridge
@stuartlee6622
@stuartlee6622 13 күн бұрын
The bridge was NOT properly protected!!
@davidjones-vx9ju
@davidjones-vx9ju 13 күн бұрын
@@stuartlee6622 are you?....do you wear a helmet when you go outside?
@MusicEchos
@MusicEchos 18 күн бұрын
I wish one time that a retailer would create an active list of the things they purchase/rent/or other things that come out of their pockets that cost more as a result of a disaster. Just let us see what really goes up in price and who inflates their real expenses.
@JPaul60
@JPaul60 19 күн бұрын
It's like a bus crash in the city, everyone in the neighborhood where the crash happened was on the bus.
@carlsaganlives6086
@carlsaganlives6086 18 күн бұрын
...with impossible to diagnose 'back problems'.
@sapple3946
@sapple3946 15 күн бұрын
What sucks about this is the companies may get reimbursed for increased costs but they won’t pass that on to us after purchasing the items.
@stephen4763
@stephen4763 13 күн бұрын
That level of irresponsibility is unconscionable. That is criminal negligence plain and simple.
@jimmanis6717
@jimmanis6717 9 күн бұрын
I've noticed nobody is talking about the fact the port is required to do a safety inspection on the vessel before it is released? also missing is the fact that a Harbor pilot needed to be on board for arrival and departure, they are also responsible for alerting the harbor master of any and all deficiencies in the ship. I wonder why none of this is being discussed.
@coincollector315
@coincollector315 11 күн бұрын
Businesses not impacted will also raise prices claiming shipping issues
@merryhunt9153
@merryhunt9153 16 күн бұрын
I've seen footage of the bridge collapse. That bridge went down like a wet noodle, and it seems obvious that engineers had not built in any safety factors in case something hit it. The owners of the Dali bear responsibility, but they are not alone in doing so.
@oriraykai3610
@oriraykai3610 15 күн бұрын
Bridges don't naturally collapse like that. Look at the struts that appear to have plastic charges explosions going off. Baltimore got rid of their harbor patrol a few years earlier for a reason. This was it.
@joshuahudson2170
@joshuahudson2170 13 күн бұрын
@@oriraykai3610 Don't make stuff up.
@Giversum
@Giversum 12 күн бұрын
@@oriraykai3610 Your stupidity trophy is in the mail. Tracking number to follow.
@bradjtrains
@bradjtrains 22 күн бұрын
We are seeing significant increases in fuel prices too, at least in the Baltimore area. There are terminals on the south side of the scene and the trucks have to go all the way around the city via 695 just to get to the other side of the bridge into sparrows point to get to the gas stations here.
@1972Ray
@1972Ray 22 күн бұрын
And the gas tax just went up.
@bradjtrains
@bradjtrains 22 күн бұрын
@@1972Ray Welcome to Maryland. Whats in your wallet?
@user-mr3ct1dm9p
@user-mr3ct1dm9p 18 күн бұрын
​@@bradjtrainsProbably--- very little money. Love the CHESSIE logo!!!!!!
@verdebusterAP
@verdebusterAP 22 күн бұрын
Called it, the ship had issues but they decided to chance it instead of staying in port all because of their schedule and no the court wont allow them to cap the costs due the shear amount of damage and economical losses
@stevenmorrison4692
@stevenmorrison4692 22 күн бұрын
The issues actually stemmed from electrical issues with refrigerated containers. They kept blowing breakers on the ship. The last known issue was a few hrs before the ship left the port.
@1972Ray
@1972Ray 22 күн бұрын
Well, the harbor pilot saying they lost steering is a big red flag.
@verdebusterAP
@verdebusterAP 21 күн бұрын
@@1972Ray The data recorder showed that captain knew the ship was not seaworthy but still set sail
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 21 күн бұрын
No, the courts really not gonna care how much damage they did. They probably will care if the ship owner showed negligence. Which is what Baltimore is trying to get before the court.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 21 күн бұрын
@@1972Ray Apparently, they lost electrical power not the engines. The main engine would go off-line once electrical power was lost since it depends on it to function, but the actual electricity comes from separate generators.
@paleggett1897
@paleggett1897 19 күн бұрын
The ‘wild, wild west’ mentality in certain aspects of “huge” shipping containers is being revealed.
@TheDarkSpartan702
@TheDarkSpartan702 13 күн бұрын
They mentioned the 6 killed only once. When the press release was read, it didn't say anything about them. No cap on cost. Ships this large should have a lockout to avoid things like this. The people who decided to leave port with known electrical issues should be prosecuted.
@ginvr
@ginvr 13 күн бұрын
Destroying the liability cap in Baltimore would mean ship owners would stop using Baltimore. Bye bye city
@peterbrettner9803
@peterbrettner9803 10 күн бұрын
What about the charges that exploded at each end of the fallen part of the bridge? I can’t be the only one who saw those
@Mitchpdx123
@Mitchpdx123 18 күн бұрын
This is why ports have tugboats. What seems to be the problem at this port. Do they not want to pay to operators? You should let foreign vessels come into your port and navigate on their own. That doesn’t make any sense they could crash and take out a bridge. .
@svandervelde4210
@svandervelde4210 16 күн бұрын
And what about the liability for lives lost.
@stobsie
@stobsie 12 күн бұрын
What about those poor innocent workers that lost their lives no mention of them.
@MarcMallary
@MarcMallary 11 күн бұрын
There were cutting charges going off at strategic joints, on the bridge, when the ship hit it. You can see them in the videos. They were similar to the charges that could be seen going off in the World Trade Center, collapsing it into it's footprint. Building 7 collapsed without a plane hitting it.
@darrensmith9143
@darrensmith9143 19 күн бұрын
The guy wonders why increased costs get passed on. He's obviously never ran a business and done things like pay employees or a lease. Good illustration of the caliber of people in government.
@davidwilliams1086
@davidwilliams1086 18 күн бұрын
These costs aren't related to paying employees or other essential bills. Only to owners who prized speed over safety.
@lillianlindquist1720
@lillianlindquist1720 17 күн бұрын
46 million is owed to Baltimore.
@michaeldigiulio5602
@michaeldigiulio5602 14 күн бұрын
The taxpayers that are paying for this mess are the ones who are owed.
@francrouch9347
@francrouch9347 14 күн бұрын
How many workers are still missing?
@calvinhobbes7504
@calvinhobbes7504 22 күн бұрын
Sorry but maritime insurance law is gonna trump what a few midnight contingency-fee lawyers think.
@sergeantrandomusmc
@sergeantrandomusmc 21 күн бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same thing - it’s going to end up being another Evergiven/Evergreen situation
@nighttrain1236
@nighttrain1236 19 күн бұрын
Even in common-law liability has limits with remoteness tests.
@ronblack7870
@ronblack7870 21 күн бұрын
and why did the bridge have basically no protection for the piers. ? because baltimore didn't want to spend the money even though it was proposed after 9-11
@brassmule
@brassmule 21 күн бұрын
Yeah but at least they invested the city's money into crime prevention and education instead. Now Baltimore is one of the safest cities in the US with top scoring high school grades and graduation rates. What's one bridge compared to that level of community success?
@raygunsforronnie847
@raygunsforronnie847 21 күн бұрын
Mostly because it was designed and built in an era of ships 1/3 the size and displacement of the Dali. The "might happen" vulnerability of a terrorist attack was seen as less likely than other types of threats to the DelMarVa region and money was spent on those.
@bryandevries7210
@bryandevries7210 20 күн бұрын
​@@brassmulethat is one of the best jokes I have ever heard...you sir win my internet for the day.
@bryandevries7210
@bryandevries7210 20 күн бұрын
They stopped using tugs regularly in 2016. The state never mandated protections in leiu of the projects or safe alternatives.
@brucewilliams2106
@brucewilliams2106 13 күн бұрын
@@bryandevries7210 nonsense. they still use tugs but some ships are too big to side tie the tug under the bridge
@joeodell8115
@joeodell8115 13 күн бұрын
And the 6 workers who died ! They can't be rebuilt .
@ggrace1133
@ggrace1133 11 күн бұрын
Pass those costs along to us, but maintain those profits! Let the masses pay.
@claudenewton8932
@claudenewton8932 16 күн бұрын
As a retired seaman Baltimore was always a minor port, your making it out to be a major hub and that it is not.
@mkneely4539
@mkneely4539 15 күн бұрын
Only the 11th largest in the US....9th largest in terms of dollar value. So, if that's your definition of minor...
@tasa4904
@tasa4904 15 күн бұрын
@@mkneely4539 It's minor. Los Angeles, the first place port brings in 9 times more dollar value. NJ & NY, the second place brings in 8 times more. Third brings in a little under 8. Baltimore only brings in 4% of the 3 combined. If you factor in all the other ports from 4th to 8th, that number drops even further.
@michaeldigiulio5602
@michaeldigiulio5602 14 күн бұрын
Reports show Baltimore port is the largest car port on the East Coast.
@brucewilliams2106
@brucewilliams2106 13 күн бұрын
it is if you're a car dealer or manufacturer
@am74343
@am74343 18 күн бұрын
Nobody is 100% liable for any disaster. There's always a small amount of blame assignable to all parties involved.
@genespell4340
@genespell4340 17 күн бұрын
Well, the bridge didn't move in front of the ship so that eliminates one thing. The ship may have more defects. It should be confined to port until everything is settled.
@jul1440
@jul1440 16 күн бұрын
Very true. The lack of dolphins/fenders, for example.
@averteddisasterbarely2339
@averteddisasterbarely2339 11 күн бұрын
My dad always told me when I'd get hurt to suck it up buttercup ! My kids are priceless , Every parent shares the the same sentiment ! ..... justice will prevail in this tragedy and compassion will far exceed 43 million dollars for the families alone !
@BillzWW2
@BillzWW2 12 күн бұрын
Gross negligence at the very least.Should have had tugs escort all the way to breakwater if they knew power was unreliable or faulty.As facts come out this tragedy should never have happened.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 16 күн бұрын
Does this go to Admirality court or to a local district or federal court .
@Kazooten
@Kazooten 15 күн бұрын
Excuse me but the worst part was the loss of life of innocent people
@johugra1
@johugra1 13 күн бұрын
This is what I was expecting. Blame the shipping company. Ships always break down and the bridge was very flimsy and not at all protected. The idea that this is 100% the fault of the shipping company is just scapegoating and lets off the real culprits who are the authorities that did not protect their flimsy bridge.
@SpamSucker
@SpamSucker 13 күн бұрын
The “real culprit” is the ship owner/operator… they are responsible to maintain operability, and if they decided to depart without addressing known power issues, or requesting extended tugboat support from the port, then not only will they be held liable but USA will likely hold them accountable for damage in excess of the traditional ship value limit ($43M). Port of Baltimore contributed to the severity of the loss by taking financial shortcuts: no dolphins and no tug support to a bridge that was literally within sight of the departure pier. They are a contributor, not “the culprit”.
@stevenfoust3782
@stevenfoust3782 13 күн бұрын
This is the cost of doing business with other countries. Lost lives, jobs, productivity, and paralyzing inflation. Thanks government
17 күн бұрын
It's nothing new that the employees are forced to use broken equipment. I've once was given the company car to be driven to location 400km away from company. I've noticed that that the rear of the car was a bit lower on the right side. They said that's a minor issue, but it turned out later that there were no suspension at all at rear right wheel. This could end up deadly too!
@user-qs8xi9ii4y
@user-qs8xi9ii4y 14 күн бұрын
Hmm... I was on Norwegian Cruise in summer of 1995 and for 20 minutes, in the night time, the ship's power went off. Wonder if this is a normal occurrence?
@ibuguru
@ibuguru 12 күн бұрын
That pittance will not even pay to replace the bridge, no less massive business losses, city losses, loss of jobs + income to port workers, even costs of demolition of bridge debris and clearing the channel. The owners must plan on paying several billion at the very least.
@boblordylordyhowie
@boblordylordyhowie 2 күн бұрын
The largest fault is Baltimore port not ensuring the bridge supports were protected in the first place, the accident should never have happened, plus a bridge in a shipping lane should have been better constructed, not to be pretty.
@brianmacadam4793
@brianmacadam4793 16 күн бұрын
the closure costs will be dwarfed by the replacement cost for the bridge.
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome 14 күн бұрын
So... Captain was under order from shipping company owners management to set sail anyway limp to Sri Lanka where maintenance costs to repair would be much lower than in Baltimore.
@Mike-qk9ys
@Mike-qk9ys 9 күн бұрын
The ship owners should countersue the city for not taking care of the bridge. It was falling apart and a rusty piece of garbage before the ship even hit it.
@martinsaunders7925
@martinsaunders7925 11 күн бұрын
It isn't ships going in that's a problem. They can be diverted to other ports. It's the ships blocked in Baltimore that cannot get out. Their generators are kept running,crews fed and housed and the ship not working.
@johnjonisa5022
@johnjonisa5022 16 күн бұрын
Why should we pay any increase in the cost of goods they are insured aren't THEY
@merryfergie
@merryfergie 13 күн бұрын
Insurance costs are paid by people....consumers...it's factored into the cost of goods & services. The Consumer always pays
@steventhompson4609
@steventhompson4609 13 күн бұрын
All train commuters who used the train to cross the bridge should be responsible for all financial obligations to repair the bridge
@jorgesabater8640
@jorgesabater8640 15 күн бұрын
They should go out of business after paying for everything. Such criminal behavior must be prevented to prevail.
@apertureemployee215
@apertureemployee215 11 күн бұрын
Ridiculously low liability caps are actually pretty common in maritime cases because they're based on the value of the ship and cargo. The sketchy part is that they're based on the value at the time of the suit/resolution so if the ship was severely damaged or sunk the liability limit can be very low or even zero
@scarletlegg
@scarletlegg 13 күн бұрын
What about the negligence of the bridge builders not installing rock or concrete protective barriers around the bridge supports.
@acreguy3156
@acreguy3156 7 күн бұрын
Passing the cost along to consumers is bullsh*t. This accident can cause delays but there's no excuse to raise prices. There's enough greed already!
@jayrowe6473
@jayrowe6473 12 күн бұрын
The limit of liability should be capped at complete repair costs to bring it back to pre-collision condition, plus the families of the deceased compensation, plus lost revenue due to their negligence, plus prison time for those found to be knowingly negligent.
@sierravista9013
@sierravista9013 13 күн бұрын
😢 loss of life the real cost.
@ausbare140
@ausbare140 11 күн бұрын
If no one goes to jail things will never change.
@blueyhis.zarsoff1147
@blueyhis.zarsoff1147 16 күн бұрын
When I look up that case file its the owners liability petition not what we see here?
@marchess923
@marchess923 12 күн бұрын
Someone pointed out, that a puff of black smoke raised fron the ship just before impact. Did the ship accelerate? There could be an alternative explanation.
@pnotuner1
@pnotuner1 14 күн бұрын
Granted, it was a crappy bridge that I avoided after my first crossing, but what part of the bridge do they think can be replaced by 43 million ?
@ILuvRum
@ILuvRum 11 күн бұрын
On the day it happened there was a local Baltimore news video on here featuring a femal dockworker who stated the vessel was having serious electrical problems right up to the time it departed. The video dissapeared and asking around I was told the dockworker had recanted her story....
@ronniemaynor4434
@ronniemaynor4434 13 күн бұрын
Duh! The Dali had been cited several times before this for serious deficiencies and should never been allowed into an American port.
@orcaman3100
@orcaman3100 12 күн бұрын
Life in prison for the manager who ordered that ship to leave port
@redeyedmongoose2963
@redeyedmongoose2963 22 күн бұрын
It’s rather apparent that the design of that bridge was poor, hit one support and half of the bridge falls !
@1972Ray
@1972Ray 22 күн бұрын
The forces involved with a 100,000 ton moving ship hitting something stationary are extremely high. UM's dept. of Engineering has a great story on it. Either way, the bridge is 47 years old, thousands of ships have passed under, and at the time the harbor channel was 30 feet and ships coming to Baltimore were much smaller. No doubt lots of hindsight will be used for the new bridge.
@josephastier7421
@josephastier7421 22 күн бұрын
ALL of the truss bridge fell, but it's design was not the problem. Imagine removing the legs from one end of a bench. I don't care how well designed that bench is, it's going down.
@user-qe7oh8cm5t
@user-qe7oh8cm5t 21 күн бұрын
The capacity and size of cargo ships has grown tremendously since this bridge was built. The larger container ships of the day were at or under 3,000 TEU capacity where the Dali's is over 3 times that at just under 10,000 TEU.
@sbrunner69
@sbrunner69 21 күн бұрын
It’s also rather apparent that you don’t know much about engineering or the history of shipping.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 21 күн бұрын
Yes, one hit by 100,000 ton ship moving at 8 miles an hour. And no, it didn’t knock down half the bridge. It knocked down all of it. All that’s left are the approaches.
@0sgtmay0
@0sgtmay0 13 күн бұрын
Imagine that ... huge shipping corporations "cutting costs" at the expense of fleet maintenance. Who would have thunk it 🤔
@calvindavis7591
@calvindavis7591 13 күн бұрын
Never let a crisis go to waste
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 18 күн бұрын
I think that liability of the company should be. 1. If found to NOT be negligent .... liable for cleanup of the bridge. 2. If found to BE Negligent ... liable for clean up / rebuild / and civil liabilty for the road crew lives lost.
@billbutler3158
@billbutler3158 18 күн бұрын
Sue the company for everything
@vanhasydan4754
@vanhasydan4754 15 күн бұрын
The ship owner must be held as fully accountable as possible.
@anthonyallen8780
@anthonyallen8780 8 күн бұрын
The City of Baltimore has a harbor captain who did not do his job, along with a tug crew who deserted the escort of the ship safely through the channel, bottom line the tug boat could easily have guided the cargo ship away from the piers. It is the City who are guilty of destroying the bridge as the Tug was not doing its job when the ship lost power, The ship owners should be suing the city for not doing the job they were paid to do!
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 14 күн бұрын
The consumer cost increase should be temporary until things start moving again, but for some reason it never turns out that way.....🤔
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 11 күн бұрын
The owners of the Dali the actual senior corporate management should be under criminal investigation.
@yellowbird5411
@yellowbird5411 11 күн бұрын
Everything that happens causes suppliers and retailers to use that event (and they never stop) to raise prices more. Whether it's a train derailment, a toxic spill, a strike, a bridge collapse, a bridge fire, a flood, a wildfire, a drought - the list is endless, and no one seems to verify how or why every single business gets to raise prices when stuff happens that may have had nothing whatsoever to do with this particular bridge and this particular ship. But, never let a good opportunity go to waste.
@alvarkoski7743
@alvarkoski7743 19 күн бұрын
The bridge fell faster than stormy daniels pants , this was a disaster waiting to happen poor engineering from earlier times.This shipping company must be forced to payup for the bridge and the victims.
@mkay1957
@mkay1957 18 күн бұрын
The design of the bridge was fine for the time it was built, but they did not install those barriers to keep ships from hitting the bridge columns.
@bigk4755
@bigk4755 17 күн бұрын
@@mkay1957bridge pier bumpers were not even a thing yet when this bridge was designed and built. Plus I would be willing to bet, due to a number of factors, that such devices are not exactly cheap.
@TraceyHanwell
@TraceyHanwell 17 күн бұрын
So on hand you say the bridge was poorly designed. On the other you say it is the ship's fault and they should pay. Not logical.
@davea4245
@davea4245 16 күн бұрын
@@bigk4755 It is 44 years from the Sunshine Bridge bridge disaster in Tampa Bay and nearly 4 decade from the engineered mitigation safety solution to protect all bridges. The politicians kept kicking the safety barriers down the road for 4 decades. I'm willing to bet the safety dolphins would be cheaper than a new bridge that will now require the safety dolphins.
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 11 күн бұрын
They also have to factor in disruption to road traffic over an extended period and the cost of rebuilding. The bridge wasn’t there just for fun.
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