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Once Perturabo left the siege of Terra it was basically GG’s for the Traitor Legions, he was hard carrying the others who were heavily succumbing to the side effects of Chaos.

The more they dedicate themselves to Chaos the more chaotic they became. It's tough to organize people who are being corrupted to disorder. So although you have a lot of power to bring to bear they keep wandering off to do their own chaotic thing. Like the Emperor's Children running around trying to make weird drugs out of people rather than attacking the loyal forces.

Tzeentch using Magnus to break the Webway was definitely the biggest move the traitors ever made. Imagine the siege, but with 9000 more Custodes, the Emperor and Vulkan defending the walls, plus the mechanicus.

I think Perturabo had another hidden primarch "power" that prevents literally anybody in his universe from appreciating him.

When you read Mortis, you see that Perturabo, despite having his station as essentially the Grand Commander of the siege about to be usurped by Mortarion, didn't leave out of underappreciation. You know this because he already saw it coming - the influence of chaos was corrupting his ability to control the siege. He'd given up well before then, just sort of sitting there, letting the data wash over him - as Forrix put it - resigned already to not be in control anymore. In that situation, he knew that it would be sensible to let someone who could direct the warp-tides flow. That it even had to be done like this is what pissed him off. Across several authors we see Perturabo join Horus because he sees him as 'honourable', and that he trusts Horus, and keeps to him because of such honour - it's kind of his anchor to motivate his treachery. That anchor crumbles when Horus elects to employ, to Perturabo, a wholly dishonourable manner of warfare, by way of demons and the mutilations of the body and mind that are the currently chaos-dedicated legions. That shit genuinely inspires anger in him. When it becomes the crux of the siege, to Perturabo - and also Abaddon really - that is when Horus took away what victory meant for him. Not humbling Dorn, not "being appreciated", not killing the emperor, but having someone on the throne leading humanity who was honourable. He knows that couldn't be him, despite his ego from shittier authors: we see that in his reaving of Olympia, and the fallout on his own soul from that. At that moment to him, no being in the whole universe was fit to rule humanity. I really hope that they explore the ramifications of that fact for him in the scouring; maybe it could give us some nice wholesomeness before he turns demonic, kinda like what McNeill did for Magnus.

Perturabo: okay guys good job taking out the enemy's allies, I'm at the objective with 99% capture meter, let's finish this! Fulgrim, jungling for civilians to turn into space cocaine: Magnus respawning while his sons keep getting Thanos'd in front of him: Kurze just AFK: Alpharius and Omegon trolling the entire time: Angron getting tilted 24/7: Lorgar getting kicked for toxicity: Horus and Mortarion actually helping, but Horus drank chaos god bath water and Morty has space ligma: Perturabo: you know what, f*** this [FistFucker69 has left the match]

As everyone said, chaos is simply the antithesis of order (or law in the really old WH lingo) and the more one dedicates himself to chaos, the more erratic his behaviour becomes. Once upon a time it was stated pretty clearly that chaos space marines are individually more powerful than their loyalist counterparts but they are way worse at working together and following any kind of shared strategy for more than 5 minutes straight. It takes exceptional circumstances and exceedingly powerful leaders to make several warbands work together and even then their alliance is tenuous at best.

The fact these always seem to come out when I’m at the gym gives me even more motivation to get that primaris build.

Sanguinius: *killed by Horus* Blood Angels: "It's Morbin time"

The problem of Chaos has always been Chaos itself. For all the talk of Chaos Undivided Chaos has always been divided. The only reason that Chaos even stands a chance against the Imperium has been that the Imperium had so many fronts and fish to fry. Without the Eldar, Dark Eldar, Orks, Nids, Tau and Necrons to contend with the Imperium could have steamrolled any Black Crusade coming out of the Eye.

My guy forgot to say that Alpha legion attacked Terra prematurely in order to show Dorn and his boys the weaknesses of Terra’s defence. Hydra Dominatus

You have also forgotten that chaos wanted Horus to lose. The Gods got exactly what they wanted. A crippled Imperium with no rational leadership. And the worship of millions because of an unnecessarily cruel government.

Perturabo is pretty much the soul reason the traitors ended up loosing thanks in no small part to Fulgrim trying to murder him. If Perty and the Iron warriors had stayed not only would he have probably broken through Dorns defenses (since he already was) but to make it even worse Perturabo was guarding the Astronomicon and his legion leaving directly caused it to be taken long enough to get the signal out the alerted the other loyalists that Terra hadn’t fallen

8:45 Sanguinius: "Hello nephews, how's your health plan?" Traitor Legions: *attack and charge!* Sanguinius: "Apparently it was great!"

Is it possible that the Emperor chose Rogal to defend Terra because the warp bends around him, thus the chaos gods couldn't manipulate events around him as well?

It's interesting to note how Majorkill said if Horus had micromanaged the other legions but keep in mind it was Horus who also was fighting to keep control of his own chaos, in a way he had his own golden throne and it ended up being the end of him and the rebellion.

I feel like the efforts of Rogal Dorn and the Imperial Fists deserves a much more significant spot light when dealing with this subject. I think they were one of the biggest factors in Horus' defeats through Dorn's God like management of the loyalist war effort and the legendary effort the Imperial Fists put up at Phall, the entirety of the Sol system, void battles and of course in the siege itself.

Perturabo and Mortarion carried the whole siege on their backs. About Fulgrim, even if his Legion was useless, he manage to kill another Primarch one on one, that evens things out. Also, the Word Bearers were not (only) more f***ed up, they were designed to b extra loyal to their Primarch.

Basicly, Horus became an abusive boss and Pert got sick of it. Thats the way they lost

2:15 Horus's reason to rebel against the Emperor of Mankind: "You had more scoops of ice cream than us, Father! Than me!"

One little nitpick, I could be completely wrong though but I thought the Iron Hands were not reduced 95% at isvann V. Ferrus took his most elite troops and fastest ships with him. Most were left behind, only about 40-60% of the iron hands were on Istvann which is why the shattered legions numbers comprised mostly of Iron Hands following the massacre. The shattered legions slowed the traitors down quite a bit and were actually quite essential in the end seeing as it was all about time. Great Video though!

Who knew running a rag tag group of pure crazy wouldn't have the best results. It's funny too because Horus lead literal demon hordes for countless centuries in the warp... and STILL couldn't control Fulgrim or Angron worth a darn

Majorkill you should make a video on the what the roles of each primarch would be if they all stayed loyal I know other youtubers have made videos on this topic but your opinions could be wildeldly different from theirs I would love to see it

And not to forget that without some Alpha Legion fuckery, Horus wouldn't have gotten an outdated map and Dorn wouldn't have upgraded the defenses of Terra and the imperial palace.

There is the fact that most Primarchs that sided with him where not the most tactically minded compared to the Loyalists. Also attacking a fortified fortress as the attacker did not do the traitors any favors. If the Emperor ignored Horus' taunt the traitors would have lost alot more given loyalist reinforcements are OTW.

"No. *Fucking.* Disciple!" - Perturabo, midway through the Siege of Terra

Also problematic for Horus was that Corvus and the guard kind of recovered half their strength and led an Guerilla warfare behind his lines that drew conquered planets to Rebell against Horus and cost him resources and power. That’s also a reason why he rushed terra, dude couldn’t fight a war of attrition. Horus is pretty much like the csa. Aaah and then there is molech the planet Horus got super saiyajin and set his life to a deadline xD

Reminder at 6:30 that the Battle of Prospero was an even bigger advantage- an entire legion of loyal marines and their auxilieries flattened with the survivors turned to Chaos, a second loyal legion mauled. The biggest own goal in the whole Heresy.

I thought it was alpharius who was the loyal one, as revealed by the new book, he grew up on terra and only took the name omegon when they found his twin, and he took his own name back after omegon death.

0:25 How dare you, Majorkill! Kharn is a Swell Guy who loves to go for enthusiastic walks across the galaxy!

As a big custodes stan, I like to imagine a demon fighting tooth and nail to take the walls of the Imperial Palace against the Astartes defenders then wondering what that gold thing in the distance coming really really fast is and why the doom 2016 soundtrack getting louder and louder.

Hey majorkill I just wanted to let you know that I’m a super new fan to warhammer but your channel attracted me to the entirety of the lore! I even bought myself copies of dawn of war 1 and 2 and my favorite faction became the tyrannids, I just love the idea of strong and crazy bugs just doing what bugs do! Thank you for your funny commentary and entertaining videos man!

What were the Eldar doing during all this? Did they just sit back and go WTF? And what if they (or just some of them) decided to get involved on the side of the Loyalist? In fact, why didn't they? They knew the risk of Chaos, and having the Imperium fall completely to Chaos would not be good for the Eldar.

video idea : lore on the imperial navy, what is heresy, ecclesiarchy, the ages of the imperium (age of rebirth, forging, nova terra, age of redemption, the waning, time of ending, age of the dark imperium/era indomitus), the imperial army (precursor to the imperial guard and navy) tau sphere of expansion, eldar paths, and every single type of squigs

Little comment about the claim around 2:30 about the AP bolted rounds. According to the Horus heresy books, there were solid shot rounds for the boters before Horus was injured. In fact, there was a specific conversation that loken had about wether to use the anti armor or anti personnel rounds before the battle where Horus was wounded

Holy Shit. Majorkill is killing it with uploads. Dig it, also digging the Patreon Subscription, great artwork.

The siege books imply that the chaos gods demand the attack at that time. Almost like they were meant to lose.

holy emperor, that was a fantastic summary and presentation of the traitor legions! nice one

Skaven in Fantasy are a great example of the strength and weaknesses of Chaos. You have the strongest power in theory and could easily win, but in reality the nature of Chaos is sabotaging itself. Chaos is it's own worst enemy.

This was a fuggin' excellent video and basically a very compressed and accurate lol abridged version of the Horus Heresey books I've been listening too. Legend. Respect for continually putting out quality content. GG fam.

Here's an idea. What was each primarch's preferred formal/non armor outfit before the Horus heresy

The best visualisation of this issue is the battle of Thermopylae where the disorderly Persians were crushed before the tactically sound and organised Spartans. Organisation allows your army's strengths to be best employed and your weaknesses best hidden. This is why the loyalist primarchs and their legions are more powerful than the traitor ones.

The loyalists weren't at full strength cuz the primarchs said themselves that a good chunk of them are scattered around on different planets. The ones that were too far from terra were told to stay there just in case. As for the traitors, the demons and mass suicides by the guard I think made up for the lack of space marines. Plus the traitors still had the mortis titans.

Majorkill: anyone who blows that big of a lead should not be taken seriously. Also Majorkill: I love elves

When attacking a defensive position you need at least a 5-1 advantage in resources......to attack Dorns best you would need 10-1 advantage....... Terra was an unimaginable killing ground and the traitors had the entirity of space as somewhere to 'watch our back.....................head......side........balls.......you get the picture.

Imagine if Majorkill came out with his own version of imperial knights...

Another advantage the traitors had at the start of the siege is that legions such as the sons of Horus massively grew their own size with mediocre and quickly made marines, so the sons of Horus were at half strength, but their numbers were way higher than what they were at Istvaan III

Fastest I've ever hit a notification. Your shirt is tripping me out

The way I see it is, when it comes to chaos, winning is losing. Unending war is more chaotic than domination.

Always top tier content from Majorkill

Breaking news: Chaos is chaotic.

Perty was the real mvp that had to hard carry the team.

Dude, you are absolutely killing it lately. Wasnt the biggest fan back in the day, but damn man, you are smashing this shit.

What if? _Video idea_ *What if the traitors won?* What would the Imperium look like under Chaos? And how would it affect the rest of the Galaxy? The Eldar may be in trouble as Humanity would be all out to get them, not just being on again off again. And then there's the Tau. A Chaos Imperium would be a issue for most of the Xenos.

So Majorkill. Do you have any plans in the future for videos on the other two chaos champions you haven't talked about, Typhus and Ahriman? I think Typhus could have a video on how unlikable he is as a character. Meanwhile, Ahriman could have his own video on either how powerful or misunderstood he is. Just spitballing of course.

Chaos Won my guy. The Chaos Gods want exactly how humanity is in the current 40K setting.

Absolutely love the channel mate

What I love about the Siege of terra is the fact that EVERYONE was there All the Space Marines Almost all of the Custodes (I think) All of the Guardsman All of the Inquisition And the sheer scale of it is just bonkers, seeing the art posted by Games workshop with Guardsmen holding the line with Iron Fists backing them up They really outdid themselves on that one

You should make a video on which ancient human deity each primarch embodies.

I always thought it was because the choas gods dont want to win. The longer a war rages, the better for them. Can you imagine what the god of killing would do if his side actually wiped out the imperiam?

sounds like the typical multiplayer experience for the traitors, all you teammates are terrible or give up completely.

INCREDIBLE VIDEO. Really enjoyed this one.

I think Alpharius is still the loyalist. If I remember correctly from the Alpharius novel he and Omegon switch spots and he allowed Omegon to run the legion

Majorkill will always be my source of 40k lore

Yooo this si the best resume of the heresy I heard , keep it up bigdogggg

Pertey may be one of my favourite primarchs, just pure badass fed up of helping people who don’t like respect or care for him,

You forgot to mention that Horus was also no longer playing a full deck, he was shifting between being himself and being a slave possessed by the Chaos gods, to the point that Abaddon started showing contempt for him.

These may be stupid questions but the Horus Heresy books are almost impossible to get in my country: 1 at one point was it referred to as the Heresy? Since Big E didn't like religious stuff. And 2 was Horus aware that the Custodes were busy or was he just lucky there?

The thumbnail is one of the best I've ever seen

I’ve been a die hard imperial guard player since 4th edition actually but I was given my brothers death guard models and it’s been fun painting and playing as them

You know, when you put it like that. Its surprising the traitors did as well as they did on terra

By the Emperor, such HERESY!! Listen sir. With Respect. The Traitors disadvange is that they were traitors, they never stood a chance being build on their lack of loyalty. The Alpha Legion was a major part of that. Angron really just wanted to kill, Perturabo was busy checking to see if people were noticing he was crying a lot, the cyclops was conflicted and good in the end kinda, Fulgrim just wanted people to smooch his pickle, Horus himself was a badass but not enough and really, he is all he had. Chaos never stood a chance because Chaos is just that. "chaos indeed."

Thanks for the video!

Loving this upload schedule

ROFL "Anything that can fumble such a big lead doesn't deserve to be taken seriously." Gives me more respect for Abaddon keeping things going for so long... what if Chaos (or half of it) didn't actually WANT Horus to win? Big E ended up as a super lich, the traitor marines had to run off to live in the warp where they continue to steal people, and the Imperium has slid slowly towards Chaos ever since... just sayin' u can fleece a sheep many times but only skin it once. Tzeench and Nurgle get it;)

Honestly there’s a lot of “Convenient” timing that worked against the forces of Chaos, and a lot of plot armor going to the Loyalist that made the whole Heresy look like Super Bowl 51 where Chaos happened to be the ATL Falcons.

Oh boy 6 am, time for my daily warhammer 40k lore binge.

I think I finally understand what chaos really is in the context of 40k. Like chaos in it's normal state is like a pin ball going all haywire inside of the pin ball machine hitting and colliding with the walls and maze like obstructions inside of said machine making all kind of noises and a light show. It's entertaining and interesting to watch. Another analogy could be diffusion of potassium permanganate in water or bromine in air. On the molecular and atomic level in the case of bromine all the molecules and atoms are moving haphazardly and spontaneous in the fluid medium in order to take up space. Even Radioactive decay is a practical use of chaos due to definition of what half life is and how nuclear fission works. Now in 40k, chaos is just a bastardization of the very concept of chaos itself. It's like if a group of hooligans go into said bar just to destroy the pin ball machine, then beat as much people in the bar and if they fail summon some demons to slaughter the entire town for no reason. Then the imperium is a "solution" to chaos but it's akin to sawing of your arms after a jellyfish sting instead of applying anti venom to the wound or any proper medical treatment besides sawing going vrrrr.

Sometimes i don't know who's taller horus or vulcan

Guys, can we agree that Conrad would be best primarch to return. He be loyal but not trusted and Guilliman would have a crusade with loyal night lords. And at the end would reveal a loyalist that is traitor.

Bruh it takes a brave man to make that intro like your about to do a smartphone review lmao hats off too ya 🤣🤣🤣

Chaos: "We winning!" Also Chaos: "Can't have that!"

Traitors lost Pertaurbo, Big GGs with that.

You know, I reread that passage about Perturabo rage-quitting a number of times. It's amusing to say that no one appreciated him, but I think there was a bigger reason. The Iron Warriors were reassigned to other areas in the siege and split among several forward positions. Horus was basically going to use the IW as cannon fodder AGAIN, and in a far worse way. They already had to sacrifice a ton of their legion strength to escape the war with the Ultramarines, then again to confront the World Eaters on Deluge. Perturabo was refusing to make his legion cover the advance of the other Traitors, which was their only reward for their unflinching obedience. Horus had promised that the IW would no longer be forced into the bloodiest actions, like they were under the Imperium. But clearly the opposite was true, and Horus was going to send them all to their deaths. The 8th edition codex says that the IW still regard Perturabo as having saved them from horrible sacrifices, under both the Emperor and Horus, and there's pretty good evidence that this was in fact true, at least in some ways.

Pretty wild when you put it that way.

Horus wound was healed by the time of the siege. It happens when his librarian advisor kills part of Horus soul fighting Chaos. The spear wound reminded Horus who he was. A wound of the soul, held open by something good in him. In the book that part of him is killed, and the wound is stated to finally heal.

Reason why Chaos lost the Heresy in two words: Rogal Dorn.

I feel like horus pulled the short stick on primarchs If they had thrown Leman Russ or Ferrus Manus to the Traitors the heresy would have been much closer

Hey Major, Good work mate. Just wanted to say that. Wasn't even watching your content right at the minute. Just felt like saying good job :)

Awesome video!

Another interesting question Major, love the Horus Heresy story and all the detailed lore behind chaos and imperium.

Question: “What did the traitor legions do wrong during the Horus Heresy?” Short answer: “They joined Chaos”

When I see Major Kill smile in every clip's intro, I always recall to Picture Day at school. Surely the Emperor is proud!

Major kill you should do a video discussing how yu would pan out the heresy like the traitors reasons for becoming traitors ect ect

Do you not think that if the Emperor had been killed and Horus survived the traitors may have been less threatened by the reinforcements? Also a lot of this is covered in the short story Warmaster, Horus reflects on how the brothers with him were already broken and untrustworthy creatures (Curze, Angron, Alpharius) and that the brothers against him were some of the best.

Wait, so Leman was able to almost kill Horus 1v1 and mortally wound him but Sanguinius, who is supposed to be stronger than Leman, lost against Horus 1v1 despite the bald man barely holding it together? What? Even if he had the chaos gods literally living inside of him that wouldnt make any sense.

0:34 I missed those jokes and the way you say "penetrated"

When I read about the Heresy for the 1st time, it reminds me the Great War on Warcraft 1 & 2. The Horde was about to invade and win the war, a clan leave the field and instead crush the humies, who are outnumbered and go after the traitors, they take half their army to chase the quitters, giving time to the Alliance to prepare an army and atack the guys, giving the humies a big, costly win. It's funny that the Chaos lost the Heresy for their own mistakes, like they have to rush the win or the very late game will be a win to the Imperium. In the end, that happens and now they have Abbadon as their new warmaster, doing almost the same shit that make then lost the heresy.

Also, The siege of terra, its terra. The low ranking pdf guardsman is probably Veteran grade soldiers and There must have been waves of imperial heavy armour.