The community needs to figure out what they actually want. You can't decry companies taking open source designs, iterating on them and releasing them-- but in the same breath getting upset at Bambu and everyone being closed source and proprietary. The Voron team released everything under a license that allows this, Sovol have done the right thing and been *completely* open and also mentioned they're going to donate a portion of the sales to the Voron Team. This is *exactly* what we should be *encouraging* manufacturers to do. It creates a healthy and sustainable ecosystem around open source hardware. Angus makes the comment that the nozzle is proprietary, that's fine-- because the gantry is a standard 2.4 gantry for all intents and purposes, so you can print and install a dragon burner, or stealthburner or whatever compatible toolhead you want. Don't like the inductive probe? Install Tap or Beacon or Cartographer. Just because they're doing something different that makes manufacturing easier or more cost effective it doesn't make it bad. If we don't embrace companies who are making genuine efforts to do the right thing, we'll just end up with closed source bambu clones and no-one wants that.

As many other commenters have noted, I think this was the "best case scenario" approach to mass producing the Voron design. It's far less expensive than buying a kit (not to mention the hours saved on assembly), it still remains completely open source (STEP files were a great touch), and they're paying homage to the Voron team. SOVOL deserves their flowers for this one. The only thing I'm waiting on is a review discussing its performance once it's enclosed. Regardless, at this price I'm still positive I will be purchasing one in the very near future.

Nice job Angus. I have been unsure over whether or not I wanted to review this. Shout out to Rat Rig for also releasing full CAD models, although they are a kit you assemble rather than a one hour job. Also, don't let the police catch working dangerously in bare feet. I'd recommend some safety thongs as per Australian law.

I downloaded the full machine model and imported it into FreeCAD. Worked great! This is a huge deal. Anyone can now start with exact measurements and make modified or new parts for the machine without having to reverse-engineer it. Perfect for those who want a bare bones solid foundation to build on. If Sovol are able to avoid major quality issues, this machine will become a massive hit.

Really loved your take on it, plus, STEP FILES!!! Holy cats, that's beyond great!

Sovol is also donating $2 to the Voron project for every sv08 they sell! Pretty cool move imho

I dont get the hate on sv08 for using voron as a base. Voron guys did make voron knowing that they wouldnt make any money out of it(other than patreon). Sovol used the design, improved it, made it mass producible*, put it on open source, donates money to voron for every sold sovol(which they didnt have to do) and made the machine cheap for its specs. Plus its fully open source again. So again, is this something people should really hate? I even see people complaining how little money they are giving to voron team. Imagine if they sold 100k of these machines, that means 100k dollars donated. And when you think the cost of voron and the effort to building it, this is perfect machine for (tool) category.

SOVOL are the first company to give $2 per sale for each printer sold to Voron community. Not a lot, but first time. And you should've mentioned it. Loved the vid. Already bought one and waiting to be shipped :)

I have to commend Sovol for staying true to the open source roots of the Voron project and not simply making a closed proprietary clone. I can live with the few concessions they've made to make this easier to mass produce and deliver good print results at a price point and I'm sure that in time there will be adaptors for standard nozzles. Very excited to see this released!

I am pretty impressed by Sovol's attitude as a company.

Open Source is Open Source. As long as the licence is respected, you"re welcome to do whatever you want, including opening your fork.

Love the degree to which they followed the open source mentality! Yes, they made a commercial product largely based on other people's work, but unlike other manufacturers, they are keeping their work open, too!

I've got to say, I think that's really cool the way they open source everything and then provide with full drafts of their machines. That would definitely make me lean that direction on my next printer. However, having a proprietary nozzle makes me lean back the other way. I guess I'll have to do a little looking into it and see if there is a way to retrofit another type of nozzle just in case the company dissappears. IDK, maybe I'm overthinking it.

Awesome stuff, this is kind of the open source dream come true. It does not exist so people "have to do it themselves", that is merely a downside. To have people willing to make products with the "nobody can own data" mindset, is a Godsend. It also fits so well in the 3D printing community where everybody is already working together to try and help each other get the best possible outcomes. It's how everything should be, it's not to stifle commerce but to help it flourish.

There is talk about adapting the Daksh-bolt to this machine. It would potentially make it a 5 tool head machine in the $1000 range.

Sovol seems to be hitting all the right steps for me at least. While I have found the performance of Bambu printers impressive, I pretty much reject any option that isn't open. I'm definitely in need of a new printer, but it will be a while before I make any purchases. I hope that the TPU challenges can be overcome. As far as being based on the Voron, that's fine. From the comments I see that they are contributing to the Voron project based on units sold which is frankly exceptional.

1:55 I need to log a formal complaint! Why have we not been properly introduced to your very cute assistant already? 😸

Honestly, this is what open source is about. Companies SHOULD use it to make good products for people like me which don't have time building a printer from scratch.

13:04 That a Cute cat, It's like cat saying 'Ready for the Pic! See I'm cute.'

nice review esp. about the CAD files!!

Great review Angus! I super appreciate your content 😀

WHAT?! Holy smokes, well done Sovol! They’ve really been impressing me lately with their printers, and this takes the cake. Great review, I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it never did. Well, no hardened steel nozzle right now is a bummer, but if they come sometime soon, I think it wouldn’t be too bad.

Very useful video Angus. It was an amazing review

I think all printers should be measured by how many cats could comfortably fit in them, thats my new favorite measuring tchnique!

Thank you for continuing to provide honest reviews. You are providing incredible value to the community. Can you please do a review on the Chameleon 3d? More people need to know about that awesome machine.

Great review Angus. I would love to see someone do a thorough review of the SV08 with its enclosure and the higher temp filaments.

The price point on this is simply incredible. The fully opensource with step files, doubly so, Some part of me feels like it cheapens the voron experience, but that is exactly the point and that i just have the wrong attitude about it, Nothing about this printer locks you into a closed eco system, it lets new comers get their feet wet with voron tech for a fraction of the price, anyone who wants the full voron experience can always built a 2.4 or whatever subsequent variations come down the line, and this newfound accessibility to such a powerful opensource platform opens the doors to new contributions from people who may previously been too intimidated to build or unable to afford entry to such a hobby. Overall very pleased with Sovols Approach.

Lmao waiting for a print to finish, 2:30am where I am. Nice to see coreXY printers becoming more accessible

Thanks for the great review. I've been monitoring these voron inspired printers and there is another one in the same segment : troodon 2.0. unfortunately there aren't a great many reviews of them out there.

Somebody posted one of these on the voron reddit trying to get a serial number for a Voron 2.4. Needless to say, it didn't qualify

If only there were some sort of machine that could be used to manufacture custom table feet with carpet grabbing spikes 😊. Thanks for the great review. I’d love to see reviews of these fast printers include a look at the print quality when the are slowed down, ideally to speeds that match printers hobbyist are more familiar with. What do the prints look like when when optimizing for print quality without worrying about speed?

Love watching all theses videos on new printers while I still have my clapped out oringal ender 3 that works perfectly fine for what I need.

Good stuff! You can put spiked feet for the table to stop carpet wobbles. Metal ideally.

Wow, I had no idea that it was priced so competitively. I've been seeing great things about it from other makers as well

Great review man, I felt the same way about the SV08.

For that table, they make spiked feet for speakers that could be used to keep things from wobbling about.

Did you do some accelerometer calibrations comparing a wobbly table vs a solid one? like how different are the recommended speeds from klipper

Thanks for this review! I want to love this printer more than the Bambu Lab offers. I'm in the market of upgrading my aging delta printer, and right now the main contenders are the BambuLab P1S and the Sovol SV08 (with enclosure). Lower on the list is Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro, QiDi Q1 Pro and the Formbot Voron and Trodoon offers, but as it looks right now, the P1S and SV08 seem to offer the best balance for me.

Joel Telling made the statement that Sovol is actually paying a royalty per machine to Voron.

A very interesting machine, love open source. Modify for pellet feeding and sapphire nozzle with some foam insulation. This would be a good machine to try this on.

Sovol went on the correct path! And after all this is what open source is about "have an idea, make it open to everyone who can ad to it, benefit from other peoples contributions".

Excellent review Angus! I really didn't like the marketing for this one, it left a bad taste in my mouth, and showed me how their lack of understanding and respect to the community really is. The questionable support and ongoing lack of support/parts and future proofing from sovol is a grave concern of mine also. The comgrow acquisition (if that really was a thing) showed that ongoing support of their recently launched line up lacked all substance. New people coming into the hobby and having struggles due to manufactures short cuts, and want to just move on post release is simply toxic, lacking mostly in any innovation.. I hope they work on those elements and come back stronger, we will see the next model in 6 months so lets look forward to that.

Nice subtle plug for the LTT Screwdriver at 0:51 lol

Nice review Angus. Did you have to do much tuning to get that clearance castle, or was it good out of the box?

About the overextrusion issue. My SV06 does the exact same thing. I think it's just how they tune the default extrusion multiplier at SOVOL.

Thankyou Angus for reviewing this machine. I've seen a couple of reviews of this machine, which were enough to get my attention, but I wasn't sure I trusted the reviewers. Your reviews, I trust. I'm going to be buying my first 3-D printer for a project I want to prototype, and the large bed size and speed on this unit are of significant interest to me. Do you think a first timer could manage this machine without pulling all their hair out in frustration? Also... I realize that you would be guessing, but do you think that this machine would work with something like ASA or ABS, once an enclosure was added? Again, thank for all the videos you've done. I've learned a lot from them.

That over extrusion I now know what my flsun v400 is doing. It does that sometimes but not to the same extent.

I have sv06 plus and it became my favourite go to and the fact that nothing is "proprietary" is just awesome. And everything is affordable

the second the sv08 ships in the uk im dropping the dosh on it and i cant wait! my ender 3 pro is gonna have a rest finally

How consistent is the bed leveling? One of the main things i love about my p1s is the bed leveling. it nevers needs an offset change. the hotend is a huge dealbreaker for me tho, Plus I couldn't find hardened nozzles?!

Personally, I appreciate the wobbly bases because it’s more true to life for how I imagine more viewers’ setups would be.

try reducing wobble further with one giant heavy paver, or maybe a set of 4 large pavers, from Bunnings, placing it between the carpet and the bench feet

Super great that they publish step files, while not source they still are very nice and in some regards better than obscure closed source cad files. Wonder when they will start producing hardened nozzles for it Also the enclosure sure does add quite a lot of extra cost to it.

I'm not sure if you've done this, but I'd just love to see a vid of which is/are your current go-to favourite printer(s).

9:57 good lord that's awesome

I love how the first 2 comments are spam porn bots 😂

Pretty nice price point for what you get. Anyhow this is the nature of the open source license - they licensed it this way specifically so companies like Sovol could make it easier for end users like us to get into Voron printer.

Seems like an awesome printer. One of the reasons I love my Ender 3 and CR-10 so much, is that they are open source and easy to modify. The SV08 is at the very least open source, so I am wondering how well it would be to modify. Could you fit parts meant for the Voron onto this machine? Or would you have to adjust/redesign everything, that you want for this new printer? If one could just upgrade/sidegrade to an original Voron hotend, extruder and fan shroud at any point, when their nozzles may become unobtainable, then that would simply fix the whole issue/risk, wouldn't it? Parts for a Stealthburner can be ordered as a kit from China for 30-40€ (idk how well made each of these is, but I assume they are good enough and one would at most upgrade one or two small parts later)

so what are the drawbacks and oddities besides the hotend assembly?

I hope that a mod for a tool changer like the 2.4 one comes out. That would be a dream.

ok .. I think this is my next printer :) As most ppl who like printers I own a few and while there is space in the house for more, I dont have enough ;) I like everything about this printer, but the main reason im choosing this one over other avilable is the open source route they take ... I really like that i could print replacements and having the step file is just awesome ! So i feel this one is totally worth the money :)

9:35 yeah so refreshing to see a opesource tinker manschine, havent seen one in ages....

I am SUPER tempted to buy a SV08, but if i do, I know that Bambu will launch a 400x400x400 the very next day

The nozzle situation on modern printers is the main reason I haven't upgraded to something fancy and new. A new standard needs to be chosen.

Thumbs up for the cat... and also a nice review! 🙂

In my case it would be a better option than buying a Voron as I am absolutely hopeless at electronics and I struggle at the best of times with computers. So for us less technically minded its a good option and at a lower price bracket to ! Thank you for your review. Much appreciated!

I have the Formbot Troodon 2.0, same idea….. Voron 2.4 based printer. It is based on rep rap firmware which makes tuning more difficult for getting rid of ringing but the Voron design is solid…

it looks to me like SOVIK has made a commercial version of the Voron in *EXACTLY* the way I'd hope they would. Awesome!

How long did the benchy take to print and what layer height was it at ?

Great review my friend. The kitty print at the end was amazing, so realistic! 🤣 @shanemshort, I agree completely. Sovol did the right thing by donating back to the Voron project and keeping this open source. The proprietary hotend is a little disappointing, but they needed to keep it affordable so you have to expect a few sacrifices. This is not aimed at being a replacement for a quality Voron kit, it is aimed at someone who can't afford, doesn't want to source and build, or isn't able to build a real one and I think they nailed it.

Any way to do multimaterial/multicolor on this printer?

Add some concrete pavers under your desk and it wont shake. I did that with a plastic banquet table and it was a night and day difference.

Leveling Method: Inductive Sensor + pressure Sensor ? What ? How ? and Why is nobody talking about it ? Temperature drift on this sensor ? And shurely sombebody will bring out Nozzles right ? I really want to print CF sooner or later Like the head is detachable, but can it be changed to something more Universal ?

13:04 i need a "cat for scale" for every other printer review now

the proprietary nature of the high speed printers has been a deal breaker for me so far, so seeing something like this makes me very happy, i'll keep an eye on this one while they iron out some of the issues

So given it's based on Voron could you swap in a Voron style extruder if Sovol stops producing theirs?

is this a good next printer to step up to after having an ender 3 for 4 years?

I cant believe i just noticed the keyboards you have, What kind of music do you make?

I'm happy to see Sovol building the Voron. There's plenty of people that want to try one but don't have the time to research & build one. Personally I'd like to see a direct drive option with a more standard hot end. This looks like a good printer though, and the price isn't bad.

Why is it less ok to buy a sv08 than a voron kit? Whether I self source, buy a kit, or buy the sv08, the only way the team behind voron gets paid is if I myself donate. Where I get it from is almost irrelevant. Its down to ME to donate. And with the sv08 I have a lot more spare cash to donate with.

If I didn't just order an x1c, I would have ordered this, though I'm really looking forward to the AMS

All-metal hotend? And can you print without Z-hop? I was hearing some things about prints getting knocked off the bed while printing. Also, I would probably not consider buying this printer unless I'm gonna be replacing the hotend or even the entire printhead

Creality caught lacking. Sovol makes up for it. Great job by the SOVOL team.

This machine is complicated, from optics perspective. While it’s not a VORON, it shares some DNA with it by being based on V2. If people get this and then decide to build themselves the real thing, nobody will be upset 😊 I do have to commend Sovol for following GPL3 license.

I bought one. Being in Australia, might be a while before I see it

That's a very real looking print of kitty cat you showed at the end of the review.

Are you going to update your website? It still lists the SV07

If I made an enclosure for the sovol 08, what would i need to change to print carbon based material petg and etc?

13:04 that is a very impressive and lifelike print.

Would love a review of the Troodon 2.0 (mini) as it is an other voron 2.4 clone. That is fully opensource.

5:39 get some spike feet like they have on the bowers and Wilkins speaker bases.

10:22 the only others I'm aware of are the AnkerMake printers...although they aren't an open source design.

This one has the right price for build size. Nice review like always Angus and open source, Orca slicer...heck ya...this thing is a winner. Now if they would just send me one for review LOLOL..

is it overextrusion or is the infill interface with the wall to high?

Have you tried to get the Sonic pad to work with the BTT SKR E3V3 on an Ender 5 plus? Put the printer.cfg on the usb drive. The sonic pad sees the printer.cfg. But in the end fails every time. I see that most people have been using the BTT SKR E3V3 on ender 3's. Angus

My FlyingBear Reborn2 came with complete stp file too.

It’s time to design and sell a printer, Angus! Partner with a manufacturer who will give you full control over the final product and I’ll be first in line for the Kickstarter. You earned my trust years ago and I want the printer that checks all your boxes; I’m sure others feel the same. Take my money and do it! 😁

Are you going to review the RatRig Vcore4 IDEX? Seems like a real Prusa XL competitor (as in its probably attractive to similar people). This is especially true since even the "fully assembled" XL kits still require a ton of assembly.

How does orcaslicer compare to superslicer? Ive been wanting to play with tree supports for a while

@MakersMuse I like the wobbly table. Honestly, you should try to make the table extremely unstable as a joke. Like a 3d printer on top of ball bearings. BTW, I would have bought this printer however, the same day it was announced my trident kit shipped from Magic phoenix.