Making my own Luxury Chess Set : PART 1

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M&S Woodworks

M&S Woodworks

4 ай бұрын

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@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Check out The 3D Model Store to download these Chessmen and/or 1000's of other high quality 3D Models! 3d-model.store/
@BigHWorks
@BigHWorks 4 ай бұрын
Great video Scott! Looks like you have nailed down the nuisances of using Vectric for these pieces. Thanks for sharing.
@jphalip
@jphalip 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating, thank you for sharing your process.
@CaseySS423
@CaseySS423 3 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite projects I have seen on the tubes. Great video!
@richfeltham366
@richfeltham366 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir for sharing your inspiration and details on how you make it come to life. Your delivery and content are most compelling. Thanks again.
@Tiny-Designz
@Tiny-Designz 21 күн бұрын
I was absolutely mesmerized by watching and listening to this. Stunning, just stunning 😍. Thanks for sharing!
@frankshannon3235
@frankshannon3235 25 күн бұрын
Better? How could they be better? I'd be wondering if I could ever do as well again.
@carycleland9506
@carycleland9506 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Thanks for the lessons!
@andytonks7359
@andytonks7359 2 ай бұрын
Just Brilliant.❤
@brianj812
@brianj812 2 ай бұрын
You’re my friken Hero! What an inspiration to us novices!!!!!
@msroadislandredd
@msroadislandredd 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you are, and as you should be so proud. Because these are amazing. Looking forward to the complete and finished product 🤗💗
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Redd!
@OnefinityCNC
@OnefinityCNC 3 ай бұрын
Incredible work! We love it!
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for making such an awesome machine! Now, give me a sponsorship! 😁
@kenw4016
@kenw4016 4 ай бұрын
Terrific video! Nice job!
@franks744
@franks744 Ай бұрын
Best vid I ever saw !!!!!
@joycehayes7917
@joycehayes7917 3 ай бұрын
I like it and thanks for the reference to the 3D model store. The King looks out or puportion to the rest. I have been messing with an Egyptian set on and off for a year. I think the files are screwed up, purchased from Etsy on the cheap. Ya get what you pay for.
@brooksmartin2665
@brooksmartin2665 4 ай бұрын
Awesome possum killers lol, thanks for sharing to trails and workaround process.
@thisandthat7589
@thisandthat7589 3 ай бұрын
Your pieces look fantastic. I can appreciate the time involved first hand! I finished my rook tower with a forstener bit. My bishop was done freehand with a small saw. Weighting them with lead took some doing also. I made a fixture to run them in the lathe to bore the hole in the bottoms. This also worked for sanding and trimming off the bottoms. I designed the pieces myself as trying to find a large set with a king height of 5 inches proved difficult. Most were easy to model up in 3DS Max except for the knight. I don't want to post a link to my video on your site without consent but if you're interested just search Custom Chess board and pieces-CNC router 4th axis. I didn't do a video of the progress but I put together some still images and naration to give an idea of the project. I just found your site and liked, subbed. Looking forward to seeing more down the road. 👍
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 3 ай бұрын
Holy Cow, Greg! Well done! The chessmen and that table are fantastic! Is that Ebony and Boxwood? I tried getting that for mine, but I where I live I would have had to pay several hundred dollars for just the wood and I didn't want to use that on a first set. What did you finish them with? You need to do a video of the process. I'm telling you now, it would go viral! Again, very well done! Thank you for watching!!
@thisandthat7589
@thisandthat7589 3 ай бұрын
@@MandSWoodworks Thanks for the compliment. It means a lot coming from a fellow craftsman that can hold a few thousandths in tolerance. I watched your V-carve video and I know that requires some very well thought out processes. Not much room for error there. I need to try your settings for the start and cut depths. I made one for my son with two Weimaraner dogs and their names. It turned pretty out nice but had some very small errors. All the best brother!
@jamesewing8157
@jamesewing8157 4 ай бұрын
Love them
@nelmarkrp
@nelmarkrp 2 ай бұрын
Great chess ♟️ pieces! Exceptional work both on and off the CNC and true inspiration to me in setting up mine. I’m curious if Vectric Aspire would be able to handle the 4th axis cutting without the work around?
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately no. The only differences between Aspire and Vcarve Pro is the CAD part of the software. The CAM functions are all the same. Meaning that the rotary axis offerings are identical between the 2 versions. From chatting with folks who are in the know about Vectric, they say that in the past there wasn't a great demand for using the rotary function, but the last few months they have seen an uptick in folks like me and you wanting more versatility out of it. So hopefully in the future we will see more functionality out of it since the demand seems to be growing. Thank you for watching!!
@SteveG-mc3rw
@SteveG-mc3rw 3 ай бұрын
Great video, but you left out the best part. You never showed how you set up vcarve to handle the undercuts on the knight. How about a follow-up?
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Steve! I have to be careful with the length of the videos. Adding that info would have made it twice as long. I will plan out a tutorial for it and hopefully get it made and posted in the near future But for now, I can give you a crash course... In Microsoft Windows, I use Microsoft 3D Builder. It comes free with Windows. If you are an Apple user, you'll need to find something similar. I am not a MAC user. Open the STL model, and position it so that it is laying down along the X axis, and the face or front of the model is along the -Y axis, or quite simply, pointed towards you. Save that model and cut it using a normal rotary toolpath. Open the same saved STL that you made in 3d Builder again, and this time, cut it in half, right down the center lengthwise. Save each side of the model to their own file. In vectric, create a standard 3D toolpath, using the datum "Zero from Machine Bed" as your Z Zero. This will match the center datum used in the rotary toolpath. The flat side of each model should be facing downward in each carving file that you create. One with the front of the model facing you, and the other facing away from you. Place a circular vector around the area you want to cut, and then create the toolpath to cut just inside that vector. You'll do this for each "Half' model you created earlier. Once the rotary cut is complete, then run 3d finishing toolpath to get the undercut for that particular side. Once one side is finished, manually turn the model in the rotary 180 degrees, and then run the 3d finishing toolpath to get the undercut for the other side. Make sense? If you have any questions, let me know. :)
@rea59
@rea59 Ай бұрын
I watched this awhile back when I was first setting up my rotary. I ended up using Desk Proto 7.1 as I don't use Vetric. It's just not intuitive to me. I learned on Inventor so I still use Fusion as well as Carvco. It appears that you use the rotary as continuous and the X axis as incremental. In DP7.1 that is a check box and you can run the X axis as continuous and the A axis (rotary) as incremental. It takes longer per piece but seems to give me very good detail. I've not tried to do a standard Staunton set where continuous rotary would be more effective. I've done Gothic English pieces and Egyptian pieces. Love your work though. Oh...plain unsweetened tea for me. :)
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks Ай бұрын
As mentioned in the video, I gave up on Deskproto for similar reasons as you say you aren't comfortable with Vectric. Apples for Apples they both behave the same way, but I'm heavily invested with Vectric so I stick it out with that. If a reasonably priced software came along that offered true continuous XYZA, I would buy it in a heart beat. Proper sweet tea is only slightly sweetened. Most tea you get in a restaurant is ruined because they sweeten it to level a milkshake would be. Properly made black tea should be strong, like coffee would be, with just a hint of sugar to ease the bitterness. But you didn't come here to talk about tea. ;) Thank you for watching!!
@BungalowBill58
@BungalowBill58 4 ай бұрын
Excellent work and thanks for sharing, I need to make a set for my son as he made a humongous chess /coffee table with about 3 3/4 inch squares, weighs a ton as it is out of Tasmanian Oak and Merbau , I have yet to pick out a design and which way to go. Which Ballnose did you use out of your four choices in the pack?
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
For these particular models, I used different bits depending on the detail of the model. For the models with small details like the Knight and King, I used the smallest in the set, the .25mm. But for the others, like the bishop and pawns, you can use a larger bit since they are the least detailed. If you make your pieces to match the size of the board that your son made, they'll obviously be much bigger, and the details would be larger and you could probably get away with using a larger bit and decrease the cutting time. Good luck and thank you for watching!!
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx 4 ай бұрын
On chess pieces and other small parts, I've often wondered what it would take to mount multiple milling heads and if masso could handle them
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
From what I've read, Masso can indeed accommodate multi-head setups. But I'm sure it would be pricey.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 4 ай бұрын
This was beautifully done. But how do they do it in the factories, their lathes seem to cut them in seconds. I'm not familiar with CNC router cutting yet, only with CNC lasers but I wonder if there are faster tooling and speeds because it doesn't seem to be cost effective otherwise. You did an excellent job on quality though. Cheers J
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Josh! From my research, most mass produced chess pieces are plastic or some sort of composite material. If wood pieces are mass produced by machines, they do not have the detail like what you see in expensive wood sets because of the time and expense of it, I guess. I discovered that the only mass produced real wood luxury chess sets with the intricate details and carvings are all done by hand. You can search for videos on KZfaq on the subject and you will see factories that resemble sweat shops, with guys sitting in a tin shed, literally carving out the Knight pieces by hand, and then throwing them in a bin with other pieces they have cut that day. You and I would pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for a set like that, but the poor guy doing all the work most likely gets paid in peanuts. Thank you for watching!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 4 ай бұрын
@@MandSWoodworks fair point. I love your patience and focus on details. That's very apparent from your videos. Cheers J
@jphalip
@jphalip 3 ай бұрын
Would you mind explaining how you programmed the toolpaths to carve the bishop's mouth? Did you do it in the same Vectric project? How did you select the regions for the toolpaths? Thanks for a great video!
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 3 ай бұрын
It's a bit complicated, but I will do my best to explain... For the Bishop and the Knight, I had to edit the STLs. I cut the model in half, and for each half I used a standard 3d finishing toolpath in Vectric where I used a vector boundary around the area/region where I wanted to cut. In the case of the Bishop, I put a vector just around the 'mouth', as you call it. In the carving file setup, I made sure the the datum matched the rotary toolpath exactly. I used a center datum for all. In the models cut in half, I also chose "Zero from Machine Bed" to match the 'Z' zero datum of the rotary toolpath. After the rotary operation was complete, I ran both the standard toolpaths, turning the rotary manually after each toolpath to cut out those specific areas. I hope this all made sense. Thank you for watching!
@jphalip
@jphalip 3 ай бұрын
@@MandSWoodworks thank you for all the details!
@hillbillydust
@hillbillydust 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Loved everything about it; from the comments about Big D to the Mark Lindsey mention! I have that same set of STL models from 3d-model and have been working to turn them out on my 1F machine. I am "fair" in Aspire but, to the life of me, I can't figure out how you got the .25 waste peg into the model. I've played with Zero Plane and adding components for hours and can't get it right. I even went back and watched some of Mark's videos on zero plane to try and figure it out. I know you're in ALA so I'll just tell you that I am in TN, up-front, in case you want to tell me to pack sand, but could you point a guy the way you got the peg on the end of the model? - Sincerely, Bob (snowed-in)
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Bob! No sand packing necessary. I am glad to help. You're still south of the Mason-Dixon so you are alright with me! Ha! Those pegs aren't actually a part of the model. In Vectric, I drew one straight line (vector) down the base, or what would be the bottom of the model, and I run a separate profile toolpath on the outside of the line (vector) with a cut depth just shy of the radius of the model and that produced what you see as a 'peg'. I originally created the profile toolpath as a parting toolpath and I cut the model completely from the wood blank, but more times than not the model would get nicked or damaged in some way on the very last pass when it cut completely through. So I opted to cut only enough to allow it to stay connected to the blank, and as you see in the video, I used a finishing saw to take it off completely. This was a happy accident because it allowed a way to fit the model into the chuck of my drill motor and use that to sand them. Then I used the hand saw again to take the peg off. I hope that I answered your question. Stay warm up there. We don't have snow down here on the coast, but we have some pretty serious icing. Thank you for watching! EDIT: I forgot to mention something important.. In the profile toolpath that I used for parting, I used a 1/2" endmill to cut it with. This is what gave it the 1/2" length off the bottom of the base. If the largest diameter you have is 1/4", though I have never tried it, you could probably produce the same results by using a pocket toolpath, and make it any size you like, as long as the blank is big enough.
@hillbillydust
@hillbillydust 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Sorry to deluge you with messages. We're locked in from the snow over the past few days so I have WAY too much time on my hands and I am trying to get this done. I retired from UT Knoxville last year. Folks asked what I was going to do? Make sawdust was my answer. That, and whatever my wife tells me she wants me to do. "Am I bored?" they ask. NO! I have hobbies and interests that are still in boxes that I haven't opened yet. I'm fine. Many thanks for your information!@@MandSWoodworks
@hillbillydust
@hillbillydust 4 ай бұрын
I had not considered just doing it as just a pocket toolpath (using a 1/4" bit). I was making it WAY too hard! Everything is set up to go. Going to try the file out this afternoon.@@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
@@hillbillydust Good luck!
@YellowSnowman1
@YellowSnowman1 4 ай бұрын
Great video, at 0:21 where did you connect the wire to? I have to same setup and try connect to A axis but i can't get to work. would be greatly appreciated if you could help me out.
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
I have a lead that runs from the Stepper Driver up through my table that I connect that wire to. The connection of any stepper motor on Masso is the same, regardless of which axis. Your connection for the Rotary Stepper should be as follows: You should have 4 wires running from the A-Axis channel on MASSO then to your Stepper Driver, and then from there continuing on to the Stepper Motor on the Rotary Axis. If you are using a closed looped stepper motor that houses it's own driver, then you would plug the stepper motor directly into the A-Axis channel on the Masso Controller. As far as Masso Settings, check out the very first video that I ever posted on my channel. I cover the Masso Rotary settings in that video. I hope this helps. Good luck and thank you for watching!
@stephenjourdain1842
@stephenjourdain1842 4 ай бұрын
With regards to Bishop, dont do the Head slot in shaping process, then next step insert Bishop in angled jig to mill the slot, my 2 cents
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Great idea! Thank you for watching!!
@karimbelhedi
@karimbelhedi 2 ай бұрын
congratulation for this work. I thing that's a lot of time consuming in the programming of the CNC machine. Even though I prefer human made pieces.
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I wish I possessed the talent to carve these out by hand, but unfortunately I don't. Thank you for watching!
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx 4 ай бұрын
I also wonder about air blasting them with baking soda powder If that would speed up production if that's what one wanted to get into
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Someone else recommended sand blasting with walnut shells. I have never heard of using baking powder but I'd be curious to know how it works. Thank you for watching!!
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx 4 ай бұрын
@@MandSWoodworks The concept behind air blasting with powder is more control on how much is removed, especially with details in your chest pieces
@YellowSnowman1
@YellowSnowman1 3 ай бұрын
Hi Scott! I did have it wire the way you described, i can turn the rotary clockwise and counterclockwise on my touch screen and pendant but when i run the gcode it will carve like you normally with 2d carving with XY and Z the rotary not turning at all. Any idea what i am doing wrong?
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 3 ай бұрын
Are you using Vectric? If so, when using the rotary you have to choose the rotary post processor when you save the Gcode. The standard PP is named "MASSO ATC ARC". The rotary PP and the one you need for this is named "MASSO WRAPY2A ATC". I hope this helps. Thank you for watching!
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx 4 ай бұрын
The possum reference comports with the country twang😂 Mks Seriously Excellent job, excellent work Great video production And very effective voice over narration The steel BBs/ bearings not bad Personally, I would go with steel rods of several different diameters, cut into disks I just had to nitpick didn't I😂
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Another southern reference regarding the weight... There is more than one way to skin a cat! 😉 Thank you for watching!
@zzyyxx123
@zzyyxx123 4 ай бұрын
What types of wood did you use?
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it have been nice if I had mentioned that very important thing in the video? Totally slipped my mind to mention it! My apologies! I will mention it in the description. Hard Maple and Black Walnut. Thank you watching!
@jamesrobinson6010
@jamesrobinson6010 4 ай бұрын
So the man that made the sexiest wooden hammer on youtube does a video that makes me want to machine chess pieces...and I dont even play chess. Maybe it's that smooth southern drawl that adds to the charm of that purdy woodwork! 🤣 Love it man, keep'em coming!
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Thank you James!
@anthonyperry4856
@anthonyperry4856 Ай бұрын
what are the dimentions of the blanks you are ussing
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks Ай бұрын
I determine the size of the blank depending on the size of the 3D model to be cut. For instance, if the model is 2 inches tall and 1 inch wide, then I would cut the blank to be 4 inches long and 1.125 inches square. 4 inches long to accommodate the 2 inch height of the model, and an additional 2 inches to compensate for the rotary chuck. 1.125 inches square to accommodate the 1 inch width of the model, and an additional 1/8inch margin of error for clearing to make sure no undercutting occurs . Make sense? I hope this answers your question. Thank you for watching!
@anthonyperry4856
@anthonyperry4856 Ай бұрын
@@MandSWoodworks thanks
@user-jf5oc6xn2h
@user-jf5oc6xn2h 4 күн бұрын
Hi, these are the best pieces I've seen made from a non manufacturing aspect, i.e. not India. What is the King height and base diameter? What is the wood species? Will you be selling these and prices? Would you consider selling on a slightly larger volume - two to three dozen sets of pieces? I am very well connected and could easily turn these over. please let me know and I would love to chat about production and sales.
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for the compliment! With my current setup, the turn around time in making a complete set is far too great, in my opinion where it would be cost effective to mass produce them. If I had a couple more machines, working non stop then maybe it would be worthwhile, but right now I'm not on that position. If I were able to do such, then for it to be successful, it would take serious marketing to get them advertised to the right folks who had the cash to spend on such things. Comparing this set to what I've seen online, and including the storage box I make for these (my part 2 video shows the storage box build) I would think they'd be around $1k+ per set.
@raymondvatter5576
@raymondvatter5576 2 ай бұрын
How did you make the waste board
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 2 ай бұрын
Hi Ray! The obvious answer is that I made the waste board using the CNC. But I am going to assume you realize that and are asking what steps I took to make it. I simply drew up the waste board how I wanted it, matching the cutting area of my CNC using Vcarve Pro. Once that was finished, I cut a piece of MDF the same size as the cutting area of my CNC and bolted it to the table underneath the CNC machine. Then I ran the toolpaths that I created on Vcarve and cut the dog holes in the MDF. I use PVC piping, cut in shorts lengths as stops that fit in the dog holes. And viola! I have a wasteboard! I hope I answered your question. Thank you for watching!
@JacobJametski
@JacobJametski Күн бұрын
I don’t have OCD, I have CDO
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks Күн бұрын
I think that you're the only person that picked up on that. 😁 Thank you for watching!
@kia1185
@kia1185 8 күн бұрын
Manca un foro col trapano sai fare.
@kia1185
@kia1185 8 күн бұрын
Ci sono i torni mai sentito parlare dei torni?
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 8 күн бұрын
Non capisco l'italiano quindi spero che questa traduzione sia corretta. Sì, so cos'è un tornio. Ho un tornio. Alcuni dei pezzi degli scacchi che ho realizzato non possono essere torniti. Solo su CNC. Grazie per aver guardato il mio video
@YellowSnowman1
@YellowSnowman1 3 ай бұрын
Many thanks Scott! It working "MASSO WRAPY2A ATC". That all it took.
@MandSWoodworks
@MandSWoodworks 3 ай бұрын
Glad you got it working! Just remember to change the post processor again when saving standard Gcode. It'll ruin your day if you don't. Ask me how I know! 😉
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