Making the PERFECT Wire Join 🤤

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@thinklist Жыл бұрын

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@punksci6879 Жыл бұрын

@3:59 this is the stage where traditionally you would remember that you haven't put on the heat shrink.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

😆 so true

@Ramedge Жыл бұрын

always put the heat shrink first so you dont have to do it all over again ! hehe

@kaikart123 Жыл бұрын

Story of my life

@Macialao Жыл бұрын

OMG so true!

@keithduthie Жыл бұрын

And @6:14 is where you notice that you left the heatshrink too close while applying the solder.

@-darrell Жыл бұрын

My roommate has one of those blowtorches next to his bong - I had no idea he was into soldering.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

😆

@NathanaelNewton Жыл бұрын

The hilarious thing is how much the markup is at the headshop.. you'll easily pay 3x the price of a torch from the hardware store and get an inferior product

@Skaadi89 Жыл бұрын

@@NathanaelNewton sad but true

@dumbo800 Жыл бұрын

Mine get used for many purposes. My dabs torch is amazing on copper pipe, my medium torch (out of commission currently) is great for larger stranded wire and bong rips, and the little torch is great for smoking pipes and lighting candles and such.

@Skaadi89 Жыл бұрын

@@dumbo800 yes! A torch for every occasion! I like your style

@user-qn6yt3zx3w Жыл бұрын

Spread some flux paste first and then apply the solder to just one end, and watch it just run all the way to the other end, beautifully coating everything in between

@fss1704 Жыл бұрын

that sucks, it will wick solder into inside the insulation of the wire making an absolute mess.

@thoughtful_criticiser Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to show the difference in impedance of this joint and mechanical joints on the same type of cable.

@gojohnson2511 Жыл бұрын

I recently acquired a set of guide books for electrical professions from coyne collage from back DURING WWII and it has diagrams for splicing all sorts of wires (that were insulated using thick tar coatings!) In it.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Oh I would love to see it. Any chance it’s online

@gojohnson2511 Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist I don't think it is, but I could probably take some readable pictures if you'd like the diagrams I mentioned. Edit: the books are the "Coyne electrical and radio school reference encyclopedia" volumes 1, 2, and 3 dated 1943. After a quick (not very thorough) search I came up with no digitized versions.

@matthewgoodchild6763 Жыл бұрын

Great info.!!! Thanks

@lynnelist8765 Жыл бұрын

You learn something new every day Mr List! Thank you, I have a new skill to use!

@AkashSharma-vj4ck Жыл бұрын

The moment I saw the 6mm earth I knew the married joint was coming haha

@deadlikedisco4726 Жыл бұрын

The American accent on the word "solder" cracked me up. That's exactly how I pronounce it hahaha

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

😆 really I thought I butchered it

@mme725 Жыл бұрын

As an American, I feel it was a wee bit off. I usually say it like "sodder" like "sod it", and your version sounds like "sadder" to me. As for _why_ we pronounce it that way, I have no idea. Probably got filtered through 3 or more different accents that made the L turn silent along the way. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

@@mme725 😆 but hey i dig the rest of your pronunciations 👌

@michael.a.covington Жыл бұрын

@@mme725 English borrowed a French word that lacked the L, and then the L was added to the spelling because of the etymology (Latin solidare), and some people started pronouncing the L. Same thing as happened with "salmon" (from French "saumon") except for the last step.

@mme725 Жыл бұрын

@@michael.a.covington Neat! Thanks a ton for the info, appreciate a good TIL moment :)

@aserta 7 ай бұрын

If you take a small pair of pliers (the hobby kind) and use a file to groove both sides of the flat faces (toothless), then smooth it all out, you can do this 2:55 very fast, very cleanly. Alternatively, you can take some flat strips of bamboo, place the wire between two and use the bamboo to twist the wire. Both will get you very tight, very close wound turns. I usually put the wire in a vise or clamp it to the edge of a table.

@mdderrek9280 Жыл бұрын

That was better than I expected! The impedance info was interesting as well. Please tell us more about it!

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Oh thanks mate. It’s actually reasonably complex but I’ll give you the short version. Resistance should really only be use with relation to DC circuits. Impedance should be used with reference to AC and incorporates a calculation including resistance, inductance and capacitance. This is due to the funky shit that a resonating voltage creates 👌

@mdderrek9280 Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist Thank You !!

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

@@mdderrek9280 my pleasure, thanks so much for supporting my channel 👌

@gregchambers6100 Жыл бұрын

Perfectly legal and durable. The Western Union splice, if properly done, works when junction boxes are impossible.

@matthewsmith6330 Жыл бұрын

rockin the channellock's, my man

@app9284 Жыл бұрын

love this youtube

@joeschmo5171 Жыл бұрын

Just discovered your channel. Great stuff, mate! Subscribed!

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support mate 💪

@williefleete Жыл бұрын

I’ve read about this type of splice. It is called a western union splice

@kd5nrh Жыл бұрын

This is how you know your electrician is paid by the hour.

@AK-vx4dy Жыл бұрын

Strange stranded wire.... in Europe our stranded has 30+ strands Yours is somehow between solid and really stranded

@Alpine_flo92002 Жыл бұрын

Yeah in Europe we generally use fine stranded. Stranded is like in the video and finest stranded is like you would find in silicone wire.

@EshmesVid Жыл бұрын

This is not true. This type is common. And there are more stranded wire types.

@jacksplague3050 Жыл бұрын

Salad fingers... Wave of nostalgia crits for over 9000.

@the_train_girl Жыл бұрын

Awesome vid Dave!

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Thanks TTG

@teemuhakkarainen3 Жыл бұрын

When you hire an electrician and you see him tying bow ties from the wires and talking in tungs in a dark corner under the main board.

@hidad5601 Жыл бұрын

She sure is purdy but the boss would kill me if he saw me carfully intertwining the strands.

@ianbelletti6241 Жыл бұрын

Three issues: 1) if you're not using flux core solder, you need to be using flux as you solder the wires together. 2) yo need to solder the wires until you see the shine of solder on all sides. It should be inside and on the surface of all strands. 3) you need to clean the wires of any remaining flux core that you can prior to insulating as the flux will eat away at the wire causing it to fail sooner than if you had never soldered it.

@fredsasse9973 Жыл бұрын

The 3rd issue isn't an issue if you use rosin-core solder intended for electrical/electronic work instead of the acid-core solder intended for plumbing work.

@ianbelletti6241 Жыл бұрын

@@fredsasse9973 obviously you don't understand the purpose of the flux. The flux is designed to etch and clean the surface so that the solder makes a better bond. Rosin core may be weaker, but the material still has the same effect.

@waylandsmith 9 ай бұрын

He must be using flux core solder because otherwise there would not be a flame created at the points where he places the solder. That's the resin burning. No-clean fluxes are also very common and will not cause corrosion if left on the joint.

@TantalumPolytope Жыл бұрын

When you're paid by the hour:

@annaoaulinovna Жыл бұрын

good copper joint.

@jonnymorgan8385 Жыл бұрын

Excellent demonstration but I can't believe you're main earth is only 6mm2 in the UK its 16mm2, do you have smaller main fuse ratings in domestic propertys, over here it's typically 80 or 100amp some older properties may have a 60amp.

@redeye619 Жыл бұрын

In Aus. and NZ 16mm is the incoming in a typical residential installation and the earth is sized in proportion to that so a 6mm, and dependent on the incoming to, i.e.. alu or cu will change the size of the earth required as well, i.e., 120mm alu would require a 25mm and a 120 cu would require a 35mm earth. Typically in all the residential installations I've worked on its a 50A - 63A main fuse in the pillar or pole

@cag9284 Жыл бұрын

When in Oz, do as the ozzies do 😂😂

@jeffreyfwagner Жыл бұрын

It is interesting that in Oz they use multi strand wires for ground/earth while in the USA we use single strand copper.

@DamacusSquared Жыл бұрын

Soooo basically an extension on the lineman's splice, hmmm good to know

@briansimpson5327 Жыл бұрын

From web If you look at the etymology, the term comes from the 14th C English word sawd which in term comes from old French soldure from Latin solidare. The British may have started pronouncing the L under the influence of the French or Latin, whereas the Americans may have kept the 14th C pronunciation; I wouldn't be surprised if that pronunciation was still around in some British dialects in the 17th C. This actually seems more likely than that the Americans suddenly decided to drop the L for no good reason. - Peter Shor Apr 8, 2011 at 12:59

@nonsuch Жыл бұрын

It does look great! I'm curious if it adds any inductance having 50 little turns like that? 🥂

@redeye619 Жыл бұрын

highly unlikely as they are soldered effectively shorting any potential coils

@michael.a.covington Жыл бұрын

@@redeye619 Exactly. The turns are not insulated from each other. The electrons can travel straight along without going around the loops.

@johnrtrucker Жыл бұрын

For the soldering thing we pronounce it our way because freedom 🤣

@Ugly_German_Truths 10 ай бұрын

If the electrical business does not work out you still can start a cattle ranch with that ability...

@MrWowh Жыл бұрын

For what would this be used for? And where do you get the time to do that?

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

I have used it several times on earth wire just like that

@coastersaga Жыл бұрын

Here's an idea: A "chain coil." where there are say, fifteen wires in a closed loop. Then, each wire has a coil wrapped perpendicular to it. Then, that stage is repeated until your conductor becomes as wide as you want. And finally, you'd wind a perpendicular coil around the whole conductor. This should mean that while the wire inductance is the sum of the inductances of each individual conductor, each wire's inductance should be much smaller.

@sanshaj Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your channel and videos. My son is starting an electrician pre-apprentice course next year as part of his VCE and it has been great to learn a bit about the trade as well.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your support 💪 I’m pumped to here your son is becoming a sparky. Does he know what type direct he would like to go ie. industrial, residential, commercial

@sanshaj Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist No idea. I get the impression that commercial and industrial are perhaps a bit more varied. We went to a info night with Schindler’s lifts which looked great. I guess part of it will just be what offers he can get - I get the impression it can be very competitive.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

@@sanshaj I suppose any exposure at the beginning is great. I personally love industrial 🏭 there is plenty more variety and money is usually better

@michael.a.covington Жыл бұрын

Fortunately, one of your viewers is a linguist and can tell you why solder is pronounced 'sodder' up here. The same thing happened as with the word 'salmon'. English borrowed French words that had lost the L ('souder' for solder, 'saumon' for the fish). Later, pedantic people realized that these were derived from Latin 'solidare' and 'salmo' and put the L into the spelling. The Brits started pronouncing the L in 'solder' but not, as far as I know, 'salmon.' And here we are. Personally, I would rather pronounce the L.

@beansnrice321 Жыл бұрын

I am a legend made out of blood. =D

@redeye619 Жыл бұрын

I don't know any sparkies that put that much effort into joining even the earth cable, at best a standard linesman splice is used, same principle, just half the effort, looks bloody good though

@NAJALU Жыл бұрын

Ah - a fellow salad fingers fan.

@mortqqq Жыл бұрын

Love your videos, but ... weird fact is that Americans are about the only English speakers I'm aware of that actually pronounce solder correctly. It is an old word, originally taken by the English from the old French souder - no "L" sound. (Of course - no offence intended - the Americans are wrong about most other words, as well as how to measure things, size wires, etc.)

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Nice one ☝️

@sugarpuffextrem Жыл бұрын

The joint have lower resistance than equal length of wire. Twice the mass of copper and some solder :>

@soylentgreenb Жыл бұрын

Only true if you solder it well. Without soldering there will be a thin oxide layer on the copper and these strands are round so the interface is a line at best.

@mattyflips Жыл бұрын

Wheres the torch from. Been after a solid not so massive one for a while

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

www.cabac.com.au/p/tools-and-equipment/power-tools/heat-guns/gt1400

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

This is pretty much the same one ☝️

@mattyflips Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Love your work! Came over from linkedIn

Жыл бұрын

Here in Brasil the standards do not allow any kind of soldering in the home/company circuits

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

I can understand that on live current carrying conductors but not earth

Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist true!

@michael.a.covington Жыл бұрын

I think the same is true in the USA, and the reason is that it would let go in a fire or serious overheating situation.

@adam850 Жыл бұрын

Ever tried a Western Union splice?

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Oh no but I'm looking it up and it looks delicious 🤤

@tavelkyosoba Жыл бұрын

there's also a silent L in Colonel, would, salmon, yolk, calf... But surely, there isn't an "r" at the end of "idea" right? Lol

@boringpolitician Жыл бұрын

0:49 - Well... British people: "petrol station", American people: "gas station", Aussies: "servo".

@edisont.picard4112 Жыл бұрын

Americans don't say "sodder".. It's more like "sauder"

@CatNolara Жыл бұрын

Looks like when a goldsmith gets hired as electrician... :D But seriously, ever seen anyone doing something like this. Also don't think it's necessary to go to these lengths. Don't like the charred insulation on the edges either. Would prefer a crimped connection.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

It might seam over the top but like I said on a main earth you can never be to careful

@agentjwa Жыл бұрын

hey man im not a hater but are you serious with this? is that code for how they do it in Australia? everything here in the us is wire nuts or one continuous piece of wire in my experience, but im not an electrician but i do have a degree in electrical engineering technology.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Yep I’m serious and have done it several times

@Elemental-IT Жыл бұрын

beautiful. it is pronounced both ways in the US. SoLder is used more as a noun (for the wire) SAUder is used more for the action - and the iron is a SAUdering iron i guess because the word is the verb used as an adjective??? I dunno. English is weird. I say SoLder in all cases because that's how it's spelled.... Now let's talk about how it's alumINUM... not alumINIUM lolol. great tutorial! BTW, the US uses solid ground wire with bare copper - which always freaks me out. Is the 7-stranded yellow/green ground consistent? are there more strands for higher voltages?

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Oh wow thanks for the explanation 👌 We also have solid wire over in AUS but it’s not that common. 7 strands is the standard for LV, not sure if this differs to HV might need to do I little research on that one

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

@@Batwam0 😂🍣

@soylentgreenb Жыл бұрын

Humphry Davy was first to produce metallic aluminium (as far as anyone is aware) but was unable to isolate it from iron or from a mixture of potassium and sodium which it became alloyed with when it was formed. He first proposed alumium (from alum) and a few years later proposed calling it aluminum. Some other people around this time decided that aluminium sounds better; it sounds more like classical latin if elements end in "-ium". This is of course significantly nuts. The elements known to the romans were: Cuprum (copper) Argentum (silver) Aurum (gold) Ferrum (iron) Stib*ium* (antimony) Hydrargyrum (mercury) Plumbum (lead) Zincum (zinc) Arsenicum (arsenic; not discovered in pure form yet) Sulpur (sulfur) Natr*ium*(sodium, not known in metallic form yet) Kal*ium*(potassium, not known in metallic form yet) Since then almost all elements have been slavishly named ending with "-ium" (but not all; noble gasses except helium end with "-on". and halogens end with "-ine" and lanthanum for some reason got special dispensation). Aluminum is what stuck in the US. Ørsted isolated purer aluminium but it probably still contained some potassium and is sometimes credited for discovering aluminium; but published in some Danish paper and made no fuss about it. Wöhler later made relatively pure aluminium and published quite influential papers. It's hard to say who actually gets credit for discovering aluminium here. Humphry Davy made it quite clear that aluminium is a metallic element that exists but failed to isolate it; if he had isolated it in purer form the name aluminum would have clear presidence (the discoverer gets to name it).

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

@@soylentgreenb this is super interesting 🧐

@duzzah Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist only 1mm2 is sold as solid in Aus, and earth is always stranded no matter the size.

@nightw4tchman Жыл бұрын

7:24 Recommends a video about Australian spiders invading my electrics... I probably won't "enjoy" more feel scared to ever open any panel ever again.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

😂

@perryrush6563 Жыл бұрын

I feel like Americanized English is more related to old English with more French and Spanish thrown in for good measure. At least that's what some KZfaq videos have said about American pronounciations. Like the older languages shared more characteristics and then one altered different from the others. But there may have been More influence of the others in America. NO. I refuse to try and explain why a country that is not surrounded by other languages would have more influence than those closer. Mwa ha ha ha ha. :-) call it primitive language exploration and then I don't have to make sense right?

@danielvincent5043 Жыл бұрын

Sodder… I hate it. I’m in California and refuse to say sodder.

@trstmeimadctr Жыл бұрын

We'll pronounce the L in 'solder' when Australians start pronouncing the R in literally anything

@ice_wolf76 Жыл бұрын

maan this would not fly in my state

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

How come

@ice_wolf76 Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist we are required to use mechanical connection only meaning tube with screws

@dwmaddawgs Жыл бұрын

In American it's pronounced sauder 😄

@omegabyte3541 Жыл бұрын

You didn’t say solder sader

@martehoudesheldt5885 Жыл бұрын

where is your crimps? in the other vid you say that crimps are better. hu?

@gaborballa8566 9 ай бұрын

Sorry but the soldering you have shown is just terrible! Clean the copper strands (use sandpaper or isopropyl alcohol), use flux to help the solder wetting the copper nicely and use more solder. You have overheated the metal (it colorized) and that won't help the solder to run it over nicely. Despite you have put shirnk tube on your demonstration pice, the lack of soldering won't prevent the oxidation of it. So over time the connections resistance will increase. In Hungary for electrical installation 230V and above solder joints are strictly prohibited. Due to fire hazzard and or a case of fire these joints can get lose. For joining grounding cabéles I think we use somekind of press fittings and the cables here have way more finer strands.

@zenbum2654 Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure why Americans say "sodder". Why do Australians say "australier"?

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

😆 STRAYA

@corybrown1450 Жыл бұрын

Why do Australians say gooday mate when its spelt good day mate? Lol

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Oh crap you’re right 😆

@SuperSpecies Жыл бұрын

It's spelt g'day mate

@blemisheddiscgaming6464 Жыл бұрын

2k subs?! That's a joke, right?

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

How so 🤔

@alejandroalzatesanchez Жыл бұрын

4:16 Now i'm bothered with the title lmao

@shawnmurdock8059 8 ай бұрын

If I am not mistaken, this is how NASA makes all their connections

@foogod4237 Жыл бұрын

Ok, talk about overkill (but that's not necessarily a bad thing), but I'll agree it is both pretty and effective. The thing that makes this OK when almost all the others aren't, though, is that you actually do the extra step of soldering the connection, which is always critical to ensure something like this continues to work reliably over time... However, what's that saying about "glass houses"? I'm really not interested in hearing complaints about leaving letters out of the pronunciation of words from a country where people commonly pronounce both of the words "root" and "route" as if they were spelled "rut"...

@Yes-vh7lm Жыл бұрын

Just use a wago 🤦‍♂

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

That would be way to easy

@Zombi3ee Жыл бұрын

Lol making fun of Americans having a silent L is rich coming from someone who adds a U to random words like Color

@JohnStrandt Жыл бұрын

He complains about Americans pronouncing a word differently, then proceeds to butcher another handful of his own. 😆

@JohnStrandt Жыл бұрын

btw, that was pretty cool

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Oh man Aussies are the worst for it. We literally have replaced all the “er” words with “a”

@dukeljk2191 10 ай бұрын

Why is solder pronounced sodder? The "sodder" pronunciation is actually older. The word is from French "souder," but the L was put into the spelling on the basis of the Latin etymology (related to "solid"), and eventually a lot of people started pronouncing the L.