my mind while watching the video: don't let that irritate you, just ignore the sumo, leave a like, go to sleep
@BBkalvo3 ай бұрын
you must be the most annoying person to talk to
@YT_Is_Pssy3 ай бұрын
FR , the rack pull ROM goes crazy, especially with a mammoth bar 💀. *Sumo counts to a certian degree* but not when it's this atrociously wide
@Vinilou3 ай бұрын
Agree
@bono4483 ай бұрын
@@BBkalvo You must be the sumo guy from the video
@YT_Is_Pssy3 ай бұрын
@@bono448 He probably does the splits with how wide he does Sumo 💀, I'd be mad to knowing my lift doesn't count & is pretty much pointless
@xRockee3 ай бұрын
that sumo pullers lifts are an actual meme, like 12 inches of bar travel, its not even close to the same lift
@dantethunderstone21183 ай бұрын
Which ones get 12 inches of bar travel? That’s more than i usually see
@walterjurewicz15673 ай бұрын
@@dantethunderstone2118 The guy that looked like Seth Rogen barely lifted off the ground. But its still impressive to move that much weight. I'm not hating on anyone.
@Ryan-wx1bi3 ай бұрын
At this point, I'm just going to learn the splits and break the world record... Maybe then the rules will change. Maybe I missed it, but i didnt see anything stating the weight must leave the ground. It only talks about being locked out. So just spread those legs and lock out fully.
@xRockee3 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-wx1bi literally this extreme sumo stance is just bent splits, then slightly contract ur legs to lock the knees out lift done
@Ryan-wx1bi3 ай бұрын
@@xRockee I'm just saying I'll literally not even lift the weight off the ground. Then maybe they will make a change
@Mch-kk9yn3 ай бұрын
Sumo just needs to be its own category, it is not the same as conventional.
@gavinducky18393 ай бұрын
I pull sumo and even I think that’s redicolous 😂that clip at the end though 😂😂
@michaelp67943 ай бұрын
I don’t care what anybody says that sumo dead lift is a different lift. The range of movement is ridiculously small. I’m not saying they’re not strong, but I’m saying it’s a different lift to me. I do with the glasses is lifting the bar like 8 inches when when John is lifting it it’s gotta go a couple of feet.
@dantethunderstone21183 ай бұрын
Since the mammoth bar is a strongman event, sumo legit does not count on it Sumo is illegal in strongman
@razygdash3 ай бұрын
I agree that it's a different lift though it's still very funny how much people overestimate how much easier sumo is it really isnt more than 30kg added even if you have good leverages for it. Obivously with this crazy bendy bar there is a bigger difference though remember that this bar is not gonna be used at any real powerlifting meet
@marcopagot95883 ай бұрын
@@razygdashlifters like Tyson ridenour can pull over 1000 lb sumo but can't even get 700 off the floor conventional. That's a difference of over 300 lb - 140 kg.
@dantethunderstone21183 ай бұрын
@@razygdash even on kabuki deadlift bars it’s more than 30kg if you know how to use it Jamal browner who’s probably the sumo puller with the best conventional deadlift has a 70kg/~15% difference and most sumo pullers aren’t nearly as good at conventional
@christopherridge39003 ай бұрын
@@marcopagot9588because they don't train convention. If they did it would be quite close to their sumo
@ibrahimucar26223 ай бұрын
Sumo on a bendy bar equals zero ROM
@dantemarotta3563 ай бұрын
Sumo pull with literally 2inch range of motion
@musicman72973 ай бұрын
Well than , there's no excuse why you can't do at least a hundred pounds.
@MikeHoncho6103 ай бұрын
@@musicman7297nice try but his point still stands. Sumo isn’t a proper deadlift.
@20bucktakedeal753 ай бұрын
@@MikeHoncho610that’s why I do deficit sumo lol
@CryptoParalysis3 ай бұрын
Dude. What the hell is that range of motion on that Sumo. 3 inches?
@osuhog.20083 ай бұрын
guy in the back with the green shirt knew it was BS
@northbuster2903 ай бұрын
They must remove "deadlift" from "sumo deadlift".
@oscarmauricioveronicalanda45763 ай бұрын
At this point it isn't SBD now its SBSD
@waterflows97233 ай бұрын
Sumolift😊
@critical-slayer3 ай бұрын
World champion, yet humble and nice guy Mr Haack!
@coin7773 ай бұрын
2:15 First REAL Sumo deadlifter 😅
@Dave_Gunderson3 ай бұрын
😂
@SergiuNw3 ай бұрын
Now that's impressive. That's like a conventional ROM. Props to him, unlike the other guys who lifted literally 8 inches, cuz the bar bends at the start without having to lift it.
@thefrenchweightlifter3 ай бұрын
lmao 😂😂😂
@j.sarnak13913 ай бұрын
Yeah, I guess I am a little old BUT watching some of these Sumo pulls is painful. With a whippy bar these guys can lock out with plates still touching the ground.
@0zone2472 ай бұрын
Ed Coan stance. Perfect
@Cafedelluvia3 ай бұрын
I do sumo (but the way Coan did, basically a wide conventional), and that sumo didnt even let the bar leave the floor
@DXT613 ай бұрын
Great to see lifters helping lifters/friends. My wife had cancer/chemo (remission now) and the folks that came out of nowhere to help was mind blowing. You will never know how much this means to folks going through tough times.
@bigguy4u9893 ай бұрын
john failing below the knees with 930 is more impressive than the sumo dude locking out with 930.
@thefrenchweightlifter3 ай бұрын
what do you mean by "sumo dude" ?
@YT_Is_Pssy3 ай бұрын
@@thefrenchweightlifter The dude whose almost doing the splits while lifting with rack pull ROM 💀
@thefrenchweightlifter3 ай бұрын
@@YT_Is_Pssy oh shit the gym police is here just act normal
@YT_Is_Pssy3 ай бұрын
@@thefrenchweightlifter nahhh but shit man, maybe they should fine people for such atrocious ROM 🤔. I think you're on to something here 🔥
@thefrenchweightlifter3 ай бұрын
@@YT_Is_Pssy you're right . supra-noodle bar plus split-rack pull is a crime against the gym brotraditions
@BasementBrandon3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about Pandas father. Good way to get together, raise some money and help with the process.
@user-mf5ck7zv9p3 ай бұрын
Just smile and wave to the sumo lifters.. smile and wave 🙂👋
@g__l72173 ай бұрын
Look, if you’re built to pull well in sumo it’s the biggest advantage ever. Definitely a different lift. I tried not to let it irritate me but it did
@c5gramsey1023 ай бұрын
This is a great video that displays how much easier it is to sumo deadlift than conventional
@aaronisaiasmedina87143 ай бұрын
So glad to see everybody telling it like it is in the comments! Dude in the brown t-shirt does not belong in the same category as John Haack in a million years. That's not a lift, that is NOT a lift, that is a short lever with the weight on his hands, knees are basically locked out when the weight leaves the floor.
@ronnana6943 ай бұрын
If you tried 1200lbs sumo on this bar the weights would still be on the floor once you locked out lmaoooooo
@roadagent51583 ай бұрын
Elephant bar + sumo almost had me commenting but i just about managed to stop myself
@the_fitness_doc3 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always John
@Egoliftdaily3 ай бұрын
Nice bar. Must be fun to lift with. Strong people right there.
@stephaniecansfield24303 ай бұрын
Lmao the launch into the stratosphere moment though. 🦈
@Jolly-Green-Steve3 ай бұрын
I think that bar needs more whip.
@mariomolnar31843 ай бұрын
Bro that sumo guy perfeeeected the movent. Cudos to him. No hater in comments could pull 1k under the same conditions
@tenorsaxaphone1003 ай бұрын
Condolences to Panda and his family man 😢. Wish I could have attended and donated. Awesome he’s still able to lift and still have fun with everyone knowing the circumstances.
@peter1023 ай бұрын
loving the frequent uploads! keep them coming bro
@UnknownUser-fg3fs3 ай бұрын
MW2 noicccceeeee
@dantethunderstone21183 ай бұрын
Johns failed lift moves further than the 1000lbs sumo attempt (which didn’t look locked out)
@MHB303 ай бұрын
Yea he didn’t quite lock out the 1000lbs
@einosuke_3 ай бұрын
Insane editing from @12:00
@MHB303 ай бұрын
Had some fun making that one
@whitecrow9023 ай бұрын
Loved watching this, great energy, cause and great people❤️
@rushgush3 ай бұрын
try louis cyr of canada feats of strength. louis cyr is still the strongest freak over all in the past 130 years. he did a mini deadlift. just a few inches off the ground of 1897lbs.
@ILLrepIN3 ай бұрын
That one sumo lifter is just cringe. Lol
@YT_Is_Pssy3 ай бұрын
Fr 💀, Bros almost doing the splits & his ROM is equivalent to a rack pull or even less lmao. Sumo counts to a certian degree but goshdamn this is pushing it 😂
@finestjellybeansrawlol94863 ай бұрын
@patthiccyThankfully if you ever need a place to stay you're already living rent free in the head of half this comment section
@barrettfreed8383 ай бұрын
Some of u all need to either get in the gym and shut up or just get a life
@smokey_mk23 ай бұрын
lots of love to panda and his family
@LukeSeed3 ай бұрын
I'm here for the shooting star meme
@leom33133 ай бұрын
These conventional pulls are impressive asf🔥🔥🔥
@kshitizyadav31743 ай бұрын
sumo DL are really a joke lmao. nobody was even cheering for the guy after he was lifting .
@TenaciousTex3 ай бұрын
@patthiccybro how much is your conventional deadlift when I did a 675 conventional deadlift I was only able to do a 500 sumo deadlift around that time period. I don’t train sumo though that was just randomly to see what it would be.
@quentinlund1183 ай бұрын
Man great to see that everyone in the comment section is being so positive and not being dicks in this memorial video for John's friends dad :|
@user-gb9lz5ee7g3 ай бұрын
I obviously couldn’t lift that sumo but jesus christ the range of motion
@Zachrecordbreakerwolfe3 ай бұрын
Mr.hack if and when you pull 1000 lb on the deadlift you will be remembered as the greatest raw powerlifting of all time!
@dylanlollar60453 ай бұрын
I get the people clowning on sumo here, but yall need to remember its part of the sport. Even if you consider it a different lift from conventional, which I do as well, it doesn't change the fact that it's part of powerlifting and it's not the lifter's fault they're taking every competitive advantage they legally can.
@noahpalumbo90243 ай бұрын
nerd
@Gorbetron30003 ай бұрын
Mammoth bar is a strongman implement. Sumo is not legal in strongman.
@SergiuNw3 ай бұрын
@@Gorbetron3000 mammoth and sumo, makes the perfect combo to lift it just 8 inches. What a dream for sumo lifters. Literally disgusting.
@donovanbradshaw53233 ай бұрын
I still blame lifters. There is a thing called integrity in sport. It’s like bush league baseball. Is it allowed? Yes. But it should be severely frowned upon.
@YT_Is_Pssy3 ай бұрын
Just cause you can doesn't mean you should. Dude was pulling with Rack Pull ROM. Shits pointless 💀
@Vipinnnn173 ай бұрын
18 Inch DL is more impressive than Sumo.
@scotttosh63983 ай бұрын
4:55 that knee is terrifying
@Nedesf3 ай бұрын
Your strengt is absolutely insane... All that weight while still maintaining a low boddy fat incredibly impressive
@Thedudeabides8033 ай бұрын
Sumo 🙄
@coin7773 ай бұрын
Just because he is fat doesn't mean he is sumo bro...
@dantethunderstone21183 ай бұрын
@@coin777i cant tell if you’re joking
@Thedudeabides8033 ай бұрын
He is 😂
@bullydot42313 ай бұрын
Not usually one to hate on sumo cuz who fucking cates, but one of the guys literally set up an 8in ROM bounce rep without hitting the single before bouncing… he pulled it 3 inches, bounced it, pulled the slack out again, and then pulled it, used the whip at his knees to fly to lockout, not even a look at holding at the top, just straight back down… you could justify in training as a method of overload maybe, but let’s hope this isn’t on his IG as a pr 💀
@jamesferrell29993 ай бұрын
Its the whip that threw him into the stratosphere. Cant pul that fast with a bar that tensil strength
@sovereignruler3 ай бұрын
It's all about family John. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
@kaminceee3 ай бұрын
no hate but the guy doing the wide sumo, thats like nonexistant range of motion, seems like cheating to me
@MHB303 ай бұрын
On the mammoth bar it kinda is. It was all for fun
@philnull3 ай бұрын
@@MHB30 As long as he knows that. Looks like it's not new to him.
@dantethunderstone21183 ай бұрын
Mammoth bar is strongman so it was cheating since sumo isn’t allowed in strongman
@TheLegMan13 ай бұрын
@@dantethunderstone2118strongman rules don't really apply to a gym lift, this clearly is not a competition
@dantethunderstone21183 ай бұрын
@@TheLegMan1 if not used in a strongman context then mammoth bars are solely for ego
@hashimiyazib3 ай бұрын
I love how half the comments are crying about sumo when this is an unofficial event that isn't directly comparable to powerlifting or strongman
@joebot93093 ай бұрын
Its directly comparable in powerlifting.
@hashimiyazib3 ай бұрын
@@joebot9309 Straps, mammoth bar, and wide plates (for most feds) are not used in powerlifting
@finestjellybeansrawlol94863 ай бұрын
It's wild how upset people are
@andrewhauge24893 ай бұрын
❤ great video!!!
@georgetropicana93173 ай бұрын
My nuanced take: Sumo without straps is valid. Sumo with straps is not valid. Sumo on a Texas deadlift bar is valid. Sumo on a kabuki bar is not valid.
@baki_sigma2 ай бұрын
Sumo elephant bar deadlift is the trumpest thing i ever seen
@derrickg56123 ай бұрын
I started pulling sumo after I transitioned to non-binary.
@thisusedtobeme3 ай бұрын
that one guy was just doing a circus trick
@jo4140-y3e3 ай бұрын
Hahaha that edit ! 😂😂
@Total.6503 ай бұрын
sumo clearly has more advantage on this bar
@baconshreds17723 ай бұрын
Hello, fellow critic of sumo lifts. Welcome to the comment section.
@YaOkay693 ай бұрын
Wtf is up with the sumo deadlift 😂 90% locked out before the bar leaves the ground 😂
@BenjaminKuruga3 ай бұрын
beard looks great john
@dontyouworryaboutit_3 ай бұрын
I pull sumo and the ginger with straps pissed me off lol
@supersaiyan4rambo3 ай бұрын
They should regulate how wide you can place your feet relative to your height on sumo
@daniellovesosrs3 ай бұрын
Sumoan guy is solid
@1983mack19833 ай бұрын
I see Weta FX must have done the editing for buddy going through space
@combinemax3 ай бұрын
The DJ is working both for boomers and zoomers at the same time
@nathanielalaburgDelhi3 ай бұрын
Sumo is a rack pull
@Jabroni123 ай бұрын
880 conventional was the only lift that mattered.
@Gandalf_The_Jacked3 ай бұрын
It's kinda cute seeing that in 2024 there are still people triggered about sumo, as if ROM is what dictates max strength 😂
@m59023 ай бұрын
funny shit how the sumo guy only needed to pull the slack out of the bar to lock out his back.
@CounterflowEntropy3 ай бұрын
12:01 🙃👍
@earthxmover3 ай бұрын
Panda has excellent sumo technique for someone his size
@jrollie32283 ай бұрын
What’s the best thing to do for avoiding continual pec strains? my pec seems to knot up when I bring the weight down so when I push back up I rack and take time off but it’s frustrating as fuck!
@TonyMontana-os7kg3 ай бұрын
around 6 inches. BUT real sumo is without straps: you need to hold the bar. - 6 inches becomes 8. and heavier
@Mr.ThinkTwice3 ай бұрын
Sumo liters left the comment section 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@EmperorCheed3 ай бұрын
At this point deadlift records need to be in two catagories.
@tajvir3 ай бұрын
insane
@angusmulcahy79463 ай бұрын
Ludicrous mode
@Ori13373 ай бұрын
How is this 3 inch rack pull even compared to john's real deadlift?
@kalen5793 ай бұрын
I wonder who that dude in the nirvana shirt is. Couldn’t be me😂
@dustinmartin46213 ай бұрын
What is that song at 3:26? It's driving me crazy trying to remember what that is from back in the day.
@alexmiller45343 ай бұрын
Dude at 3:44 just yanks the bar off the ground for fun and then does the rep
@sealwithawkwardness39512 ай бұрын
sumo deadlift and conventional deadlift needs to be separate events. Or just make the conventional deadlift the standard
@Mazzter883 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of sumo but it is legal in power lifting-and anyone attempting 1,000lbs then move it is super strong -I still believe a sumo lift should never be able to break a conventional record as they are not the same-I have yet to see a conventional deadlifter switch to sumo and not add a lot of pounds to their total
@joederbyshire_3 ай бұрын
thats ridiculous. its all leverages and body anatomy. some people are built for sumo and some for conventional. a lot of very tall and heavy lifters would struggle to lift 75% of their conventional pull on sumo, no matter how much they trained it. as soon as plates are loaded on a stiff bar the playing fields get levelled, its deadlift bars that make these hyper upright no ROM pulls possible and I wish more federations would move away from them. after all, is it really a "dead"lift if the bar is already moving before the pull?
@vitaliyvorobets27383 ай бұрын
Literally all the best conventional pullers in the world are the perfect example for you, none of them would gain anything from sumo, in fact they are weaker with it. Eddie Hall has stated many times that he wouldn’t even budge 500kg off the ground with sumo. Larry wheels failed a 765 sumo deadlift after pulling 900 conventional, John Haack (the conventional pulled in the video) has said he pull with conventional because he is weaker with sumo. The reality is that people pull what their bone structure and leverages allow, there’s no ultimate technique that’s the best. There’s a reason only 50% of powerlifters do sumo, even at the elite level where they would do ANYTHING to win.
@joshlaw84673 ай бұрын
Sumo completely different lift than conventional. John put them all to shame.
@Santiago88S23 ай бұрын
I really hate how Social media made idiots follow powerlifting, I miss 2000 and 2010 when I was a kid and I could watch reclusive guys and Russians lift incredible weights
@jbfitness1013 ай бұрын
who makes this bar?
@ConnoisseurOfExistence3 ай бұрын
So nice you don't lift sumo!
@gigachad16353 ай бұрын
You know your tough when you pull conventional in a gym of sumos
@ajax4783 ай бұрын
these sumo rom warriors are such a meme
@matthewmelson29753 ай бұрын
Im convinced the people who hate on sumo for the rom advantage have never tried sumo because it is infinitely harder off the floor then conventional, requires mobility and levers most people don't have and targets smaller muscle groups. That being said strong sumo pullers are usually pretty strong conv pullers but almost never the other way around.
@ryan-el9er3 ай бұрын
no, it’s easier. when my 1RM was a beltless and strapless 695 i had never attempted sumo before. i was messing around one day and after a whole squat routine i pulled 675 sumo without knowing the form other than seeing videos of it and i almost completely locked out. it’s not a coincidence that i could almost tie my conventional PR doing sumo for my first time. i have the videos on my IG
@sbdftw17023 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but John’s failed 930 attempt is still more impressive than the sumo dude’s successful attempt.
@lincslegend69363 ай бұрын
That sumo lift just looks..... wrong!
@darrentaylor63903 ай бұрын
As a former competitive powerlifter in the ADFPA/USPF/IPF the sumo deadlift definitely has a distinct advantage. And that advantage is called cheating.
@James_Edward593 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why anyone allows sumo at these comps or why any guys practice sumo, I really don’t get it.
@chasegordon21203 ай бұрын
Especially watching the two one after another, you just can’t respect the sumo. It’s just…why even train it as your prime lift? It’s not something anyone respects
@itsfuego._.3 ай бұрын
maybe because he doesn’t give a fuck what anyone thinks lmfao
@HermitOser3 ай бұрын
how did he miss 1000, when 930 looked like RPE 2
@therambunctiousrobloxian93232 ай бұрын
that guy not even locking out or stabilizing the bar and just letting it do one whip off the ground :/
@Nobody-bq7pl3 ай бұрын
If you’re a big guy doing sumo DL that’s just embarrassing