It would definitely be nice if one app could do both. Still impressive systems though.

Absolutely, I agree. Plus, people don’t always make the same mistakes when they dry fire. Putting it to the test on the range is a game changer.

Yea, indeed it can be done. 😊

Thank you so much!

Ha, no. It’s a cool shirt though.

There’s only one way to find out. 😉

No, the X10 works on its own. This was just to demonstrate the results of both systems together. Yes, you do have to rack the slide when dry firing. The X10 also works with live fire however.

The X10 is the most versatile since you can dry and live fire. I highly recommend it. No matter what your skill level, it can help you improve.

People get so caught up with distance. If you can shoot well, distance makes a small difference when you’re talking about plus or minus 10 yards.

I can't figure out what the academy does that the x10 does not???

The Laser Academy uses targets, but the X10 doesn't. The X10 doesn't need a target for dry or live fire.

Definitely a game changer

The X10 does not need the laser or a target. It measures purely based on the motion of your shot so you can use any target. It also works with live fire.

You can use the Dry Fire Mag with your apps. DFM allows you to shoot without racking the slide. They make one (tad expensive) that includes the Laser.

The X10 works separately from the Laser academy. I had each app running separately on different devices.

Have you contacted customer service about this?

@@AvaFlanell yep. Twice. Tell me the same thing that I already do. It’s too inconsistent of a system. Kinda liked it when it worked though.

Through reviewing dozens of articles and videos, I've been researching that question for several days now. Here is my conclusion. The Mantisx measures muzzle movement during the trigger pull. It does not require a "target" and does not use a laser. It measures gun movement during the trigger pull. It does not score the accuracy with which a bullet would have been delivered (as in a dry fire scenario) to the target. The Mantis Laser Academy does use a laser with a target. At the moment of hammer impact on the laser cartridge it measures where on that target the laser was pointed. It does not measure gun movement during trigger pull. Each device measures something different which is why one might want to use both at the same time. Around 4:20 on this video, Ava says that "Mantis Laser Academy ... was showing my target, where my camera had to line up with the target, and it was scoring my accuracy... The x10 goes a little above and beyond that. It scores ... how you pull the trigger, the [muzzle] movement as you are pulling, during and after..." I think the impression she leave with the statement that the x10 goes above and beyond the laser academy is misleading. Perhaps for an expert marksman, one who can put a gun on the bulls-eye of a target 100% of the time, this is an accurate statement. But for a novice like me, one who needs help in both aiming and in trigger pull, these are two different things. The Mantisx can help you train on trigger pull, the Mantis Laser Academy can help you train on aiming.

@@russrichards4195 Thank you for your research. You saved my time. As an engineer, I asked myself, how does X10 know where exactly I'm shooting to? This system only knows my gun movement trajectory in 3D space. Apparently, in attachment, they have inertia sensors like one used in smartphones. The rest is the software "magic". It does not see the target you are shooting at and can't tell you the accuracy score on the target. In my opinion, the whole marketing theme of X10 is misleading including this very video. Even Mantis official website doesn't tell you how exactly this system works. I can tell as an expert, there isn't much software development challenge to unite the X10 and Academy apps in one app. They just try to sell you both systems.