Shotout to mosters "Fur Hire"

If you want inconsistent text, look no further than Magic's first set. "Shatter destroys target artifact." "Destroys a black card in play." "Destroys any one land." "Destroys 1 Wall." "[Tap to] destroy a Wall." "Target artifact or enchantment must be discarded." You would think these have different restrictions or maybe bypass different protection effects. No, they all work exactly the same except for the subset of things that it can target/destroy.

Spell Power Grasp has what we call a "Hard Once-Per-Turn" clause

4:00 ok that "push down the card pack to reveal title" was a smart trick

Quick "um akshually" nitpick, PSCT was introduced into Yugioh in 2011, 4 months after Master Rule TWO. Master Rule 3 wouldn't exist until 3 years later in 2014.

Creating custom cards for yugioh as practice for game design is great because of the PSCT

Pokémon TCG could probably make a whole video on this topic, and on erratas. Def some interesting situations over the years, including the whole Trainer/Item/Supporter/Stadium thing (tl;dr: The terminology was expanded in generation 2, overhauled majorly in generation 4 for new cards but not older ones, then overhauled again in a different way in generation 5 with yet another mass errata for older cards based on the gen 4 overhaul for reference) Could absolutely hear about it for like 20-30 minutes, as it was a fun topic to research :P

Good episode. However, since Yo-Kai watch was published directly by Hasbro I don't think "the company in charge of Magic the Gathering" is a completely correct description. I don't think Wizards of the Coast had anything to do with it. WotC does have other sins to answer for though.

Slight, meaningless correction but Master Rule 3 was not introduced PSCT in Yu-Gi-Oh. Master Rule 3 was introduced in 2014, PSCT was introduced in 2011.

5:49 Q'Wit presumably doesn't use the same text as Frostina because he only gets it when blocking, while Frostina gets it while attacking or blocking.

I'm surprised that you didn't mention Hearthstone when talking about flavourful card text. HS does have a fairly consistent lexicon, but every now and then it switches to flavour descriptions to either shrink text or hammer home the card's theme. As a digital game, it has a lot more leeway since there's no chance for mid-game confusion. You play the card and it works. But there are good and bad things. For example, Mankrik reads "Battlecry: Help Mankrik find his wife! She was last seen somewhere in your deck." That's obviously complete nonsense. What it actually does is shuffle Olgra, Mankrik's Wife into your deck, which is a spell that summons a 3/7 "Mankrik, Consumed by Hatred" token when drawn. This is fine, because Mankrik was a free legendary, so everyone will have seen it. You can afford to be deliberately vague in order to reinforce why that effect does what it does. As a bad example, take Party Crasher. It says "Battlecry: Choose an enemy minion. Throw a random minion from your hand at it." The hell does throwing a minion from your hand mean? Well, it means summon a minion from your hand which attacks the target minion. This card caused a lot of confusion when it was revealed, and it's a garbage Epic so you don't learn by experience either. I'm not 100% sure whether the minion you throw stays in play or dies afterwards. Most "thrown" minions in the game die, but it's not specified here. That's a problem. That's the kind of effect you really don't want to be wrong about when testing the card out. In a digital game, flavourful descriptions can be a way to shrink text and add some character to a card. But you really have to be careful how you use it.

you can also use old yugioh cards as bad examples lol

This series continues to be absolutely amazing!

I've been making custom magics cards for about 20 years now. I am very familiar with Chicago Style and use it daily. I like to think that Magic has improved my English greatly!

Some Counterspell cards say, "Counter target spell as it is being cast." Before we understood the stack, we used to think one had to interrupt an opponent while they were saying the card name of the spell they were casting in order to counter it.

As a ygo player whose first deck was the Endymion one back when it released, yeah...I'm still learning new edge cases half the cards in this deck have because of niche wording. You "can" and "having to" activate effects definitely threw me off back when I started playing.

Some things just sound so simple you take them completely for granted, but then you play yokai watch tcg and realize how much pain there is in the world.

I think the pre problem solving card text of a lot of yugioh cards have erratas and show why a manual style is essential. Snoww Darkworld shows also why updating manual styles is needed as its current card text is just bad.

Watching (and playing) other TCGs made me really appreciate the simplicity and clarity of Pokémon. I often wish for more condensed and/or specific text while playing Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokémon is almost always perfectly straightforward. I never have to worry about misreading one or two words and misusing the whole effect.

Early _Yu-Gi-Oh_ borrowed a lot of terminology from _Magic,_ even when that didn't make sense. The original printing of the card "Waboku" says "Any damage inflicted by an opponent's monster is decreased to 0 during the turn this card is activated." What that printing *doesn't* say is that your monsters can't be destroyed by battle that turn either. In _Magic,_ that makes sense, since a creature is destroyed when it's dealt a certain amount of damage; but in _Yu-Gi-Oh,_ monsters don't take damage, they're either destroyed or they aren't. It took two errata before they added "Your monsters cannot be destroyed as a result of battle this turn."

Yugioh's master rules is all well and good, but Konami needs to make their card rulings more accessible.

Liked the Manual of Style intro. Great segue!

Funny how i have an idea of creating a cardgame and this gets recommended almost right away, awesome video dude!

maybe worth mentioning are card games localized into English from other languages and finding a way to prevent the translation in language from causing hiccups

I can't describe how much these videos have helped me make my own game, I thank you.

Another great example of this is the new tcg “Sorcery”. Inconsistent throughout with its text, and all of the different text could mean either different things or the same thing.

The Umbra is a pretty well-defined game zone in the Rage TCG. "Stepping sideways" is just the lore term for entering it, because it's, like, an extradimensional spirit world.

I believe one of the main appeals to Yugioh is that there is no other TCG that feels like Yugioh. Maybe I am wrong, and people have examples of other games that provide a similar feel in gameplay, but that's something I'm unaware of. And as a non-MtG player, its crazy to me the amount of players who approach a TCG that is new to them, with complaints, and everything they are critiquing is basically how the game differs from MtG. And you have to remind them that we aren't playing MtG.

Nice Ina stand!

Yugioh has so many wording traps that radically alter how a card works, and Kohdok actually fell into this trap this episode. "You can activate [card name] once per turn." is different from "You can only use [card name] once per turn." and can actually alter how the card works substantially.

Look at you with your Warcry Store Champion trophy! Congrats :D

I love the Mitos y Leyendas representation in all of this videos. Viva Chile!

As an attorney, these subtle text differences are clear. But it is good to have such information distilled into a video.

Good vid

It's not necessarily consistency, but a good anacdote in favor of a manual of style was when Magic was in its playtest phase. There was a blue card that was seen as too powerful because it basically won you the game for 2 mana. That card was Time Walk, because it was written as "Target Player loses next turn". Obviously if you're familiar with the card, you can probably guess it was supposed to skip the opponent's next turn, but because homonyms, a bunch of playtesters assumed it meant they lose the game (and for additional clarity, if that were the case, do they lose immediately at the beginning of their turn? Do they lose at the end step?) So they changed the effect to be an extra turn rather than a turn skip. A manual of style would probably help by just having a glossary of valid card effects, and if there's any overlap, find a way to disambiguate. You're not going to solve all issues (for instance if you want to search for all counterspells in magic, it's going to be hard to do so without missing some or accidentally also including cards that care about +1/+1 counters, or most likely, both), but it should help.

Are there any examples of style manuals for card games? I do have consistent rules text on my cards, but since I'm working with a publisher, it'd be good to know how to write one.

I kove your videos, do u have someting about Final Fantasy tcg?

Gasp, Medabots!! So in general or the TCG?

I have i my own card game “souLink” Where I refer to cards in your hand as A “Hand Card” Same With Graveyard & Damage Zone but NOT deck

"Draw 2 cards." From whos deck though?

I didn't even realize Yo-Kai Watch had a TCG. Man, that franchise is the prime example of an IP with endless potential squandered by moronic, greedy suits.

Yugioh be like: target 1 monster destroy it Send 1 monster to the gy from the field Select a monster your opponent controls destroy it Your opponent must send 1 monster they control to the gy.

I haven't heard anything about yokai watch in years I enjoyed the first game a lot but lost all interest when I heard the sequel had two version, last I heard of it was when they did the ff14 crossover that was a grind

Or the original idea of the Manual of Style, to discern between "high class" and "low class". Literally that's what it really was for.

Whatever happened to that soda pop game

#Q'WITSWEEP

I'm now convinced the reason yugioh stopped putting rule books in their decks was entirely due to the fact they'd have to put 'misses timing' and then they'd get absolutely decimated online by companies the community and every one for such an ignorant game design

Don't Google erratas. You will be fired.