Marc Raibert: Boston Dynamics and the Future of Robotics

Marc Raibert: Boston Dynamics and the Future of Robotics | Lex Fridman Podcast

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Marc Raibert is founder and former long-time CEO of Boston Dynamics, and recently Executive Director of the newly-created Boston Dynamics AI Institute. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:43 - Early robots
6:47 - Legged robots
25:27 - Boston Dynamics
28:45 - BigDog
36:52 - Hydraulic actuation
38:44 - Natural movement
44:31 - Leg Lab
51:23 - AI Institute
54:41 - Athletic intelligence
1:02:35 - Building a team
1:05:37 - Videos
1:13:25 - Engineering
1:16:53 - Dancing robots
1:21:40 - Hiring
1:25:32 - Optimus robot
1:34:02 - Future of robotics
1:38:56 - Advice for young people
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@jrussino 3 ай бұрын

THIS is the kind of interview I subscribed for.

@Michael-jd5vf 2 ай бұрын

...and not the so-called "debate"? lol

@ruutjormun2262 2 ай бұрын

yea, not the garbage recently. glad we're backing into the roots of why this was the academic alternative to jre

@sharvarigc7714 2 ай бұрын

@@ruutjormun2262 What's jre?

@kckoellein Ай бұрын

@@ruutjormun2262So true! I have evolved with Lex, but still crave more MIT-type stuff!

@somedude-lc5dy 3 ай бұрын

Marc: "pixel values aren't like words". Sora: "Hold my beer"

@ericgolub8589 2 ай бұрын

Two different models bro

@stefanovicigor 3 ай бұрын

Saw first video back in 2008 and I was amazed back then. This is scary next level.

@ChefinKron 3 ай бұрын

I missed you Lex 🥲

@ChristophyBrun 3 ай бұрын

Having this guy at the forefront of AI development and research would make me feel a lot more comfortable with where it might go rather than Sam Altman. No PR training, no corporate speak, wisdom gained from real life experience. Seems like a great guy who just wants to build robots.

@aoeu256 2 ай бұрын

You know what would be cool if the robots were filled with "water" (like animals) and you could get rid of the water to carry them into a remote region, and then fill them back up. What if you could get a motor powered by eating grass and you could use the robots to like in remote regions or live a nomadic lifestyle hmm...

@dommyboysmith 2 ай бұрын

@@aoeu256 none of that is necessary when you could just use sunlight. Unless you're asking a different question. Your wording is a bit wonky 😄

@benvel3392 2 ай бұрын

@@aoeu256I want cows to fix bicycles?

@lexfridman 3 ай бұрын

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - HiddenLayer: hiddenlayer.com/ and use code LEX - Babbel: babbel.com/lexpod and use code Lexpod to get 55% off - MasterClass: masterclass.com/lexpod to get 15% off - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free 1:43 - Early robots 6:47 - Legged robots 25:27 - Boston Dynamics 28:45 - BigDog 36:52 - Hydraulic actuation 38:44 - Natural movement 44:31 - Leg Lab 51:23 - AI Institute 54:41 - Athletic intelligence 1:02:35 - Building a team 1:05:37 - Videos 1:13:25 - Engineering 1:16:53 - Dancing robots 1:21:40 - Hiring 1:25:32 - Optimus robot 1:34:02 - Future of robotics 1:38:56 - Advice for young people

@shthed 3 ай бұрын

Dude

@shthed 3 ай бұрын

❤

@shthed 3 ай бұрын

❤

@shthed 3 ай бұрын

❤

@user-ph3gb5lp9o 3 ай бұрын

I love you Lex plus you look damn sexy with them beard muaahhh derya

@endorphinder 3 ай бұрын

Marc Raibert, whom I can claim as an acquaintance, is the poster child for follow your interests (and not necessarily within immediate reason). A very inspirational interview. Thanks both.

@cogoid 3 ай бұрын

He comes across as a very down to earth dude, compared to many other CEOs. And yet he managed to keep Boston Dynamics funded for many decades -- no mean feat, considering that they did not really have any products, until very recently.

@BR-hi6yt 3 ай бұрын

Reminds me of Jeff Bezos a bit - love of engineering and big dreams.

@magalengo 3 ай бұрын

“Not necessarily within immediate reason”, yes, as a Google shareholder he burned a lot of my capital in a pit.

@watch789 3 ай бұрын

Lex, you’re my favorite interviewer of all time and I follow many. Fantastic guest. Please carry on sir.

@PryZmFiXion 3 ай бұрын

Ditto

@boohoo5419 3 ай бұрын

everytime lex talks about deep topics you see how shallow his thoughts are! lex has the intellect of a stoned 15 year old me.. on the level.. bro you know what would be cool! sharks with lasers.. meanwhile his guest talking about healing cancer! its just cringe too watch.. for example.. his guest says multiple times spot and friends cant hear, feel and barely see.. it follows hard coded routines! but lex mumbling his philosophical bullshit about robot human interaction.. and robots feeling.. he sounds like my grandma.. he has no clue wtf hes talking about on almost all topics!

@elsie412ok 2 ай бұрын

Lex is great, I love his interview style, intelligent questions and discussions, and the space for the listener to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions. Lex keeps me company when I’m doing lengthy, menial chores, keeps my brain chugging along. Thanks, Lex, for feeding my brain.

@ianmcdonald3053 3 ай бұрын

25 years ago i was buying my first mp3 player, the biggest card i could get for it was 16 mb, it had 16 mb built in cost £250 and i loved it, 2005 im paying £400 for a 512mb sd card that jump in 6 years was crazy, 1998 if you had a 5gb hard drive it was over kill, the game half-life was 70mb in size and what a game it was, nowadays the top titles can be easily 100 gb in size. Can you imagine the jump in 25 years from now, hopefully at 75 i will be around and witness the crazy development tech goes in, to be around from almost the beginning when having a digital clock radio was high tech or having a solar power calculator in school that fitted into your ruler, to where we are now is mind blowing, its still disappointing cars cant fly but who knows.

@y5mgisi 3 ай бұрын

I think about this all the time.

@bones642 3 ай бұрын

Cars can fly and so can people with jet packs and wings. It’s just rare air lol can’t have every idiot doing it.

@ianmcdonald3053 2 ай бұрын

@@HWM636 that was the price of it 2004/2005 not todays price

@HCB305 2 ай бұрын

@@ianmcdonald3053 SAMSUNG EVO Select Micro SD-Memory-Card + Adapter, 512GB $24.99 on Amazon I stand corrected, they're $25 these days.

@SeanDavies-Roy 2 ай бұрын

Very well might be able to partially or completely reverse the ill-health of aging by then. If interested I suggest youtubing Dr. David Sinclair (Harvard), Dr. Aubrey de Grey (formerly of Oxford and head of the LEV Foundation) and Dr. George Church (Harvad).

@user-yb2pm7ys8v 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic podcast. I am a Robotics and cybernetics student and I am a huge fan of Boston Dynamics and MIT.

@kylekohler415 3 ай бұрын

Clear my schedule, new Lex just dropped.

@NoorkeiBoston 3 ай бұрын

That's the spirit. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Tikus_90 2 ай бұрын

Its not an 8hr episode, lucky for you. 😁

@AH-wr1ir 3 ай бұрын

Great questions Lex! What a fascinating conversation.

@danschanone 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great instalment. Always looking forward to the next interview...🙏❤️🙏❤️

@TheRealStructurer 3 ай бұрын

Great discussion. Nice to see Lex going back to his roots. Wish this discussion was longer, so many more aspects to talk about. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

@NanoDex 3 ай бұрын

I like the idea of developing perfect fumbling

@NoorkeiBoston 3 ай бұрын

That's a bad idea. 💡

@vitaminwaterdaisuki Ай бұрын

What's amazing about Marc is how crazy humble he is. Just an amazing human. One day before I die I hope I ever get to meet this man.

@TheToFu 3 ай бұрын

I can't wait to listen to this episode! Great guest Lex

@yoyo-jc5qg 2 ай бұрын

I like how lex does his image and video clip overlays, they dont interrupt the flow of the podcast, so noice

@gloriaharbin1131 3 ай бұрын

Inspiring discussion.❤

@mwiethoff 3 ай бұрын

Long live LEX - the charmer with razor sharp comments/questions. Much love and respect from Singapore. m

@ilovemyhonda250ex 3 ай бұрын

awesome. always love hearing from Marc.

@erikhill3431 3 ай бұрын

Great episode Lex 💪 I thoroughly enjoyed it

@ross302ci 23 күн бұрын

I love that Lex is a technical guy first and foremost. Interviews like this are a rare thing that we are fortunate to have access to. Marc is such a humble and inspiring character. For all the tech talking heads who love to drone about how they're revolutionizing things, it's so refreshing to see this man who will surely go down in engineering history just eagerly talk about his work and ideas from a place of genuine curiosity and enthusiasm. Thanks Lex and Marc!

@zzord 3 ай бұрын

I have extra respect for people who support, and talk highly about their peers and competitors, like Marc.

@Beederda 3 ай бұрын

I was just thinking about you today lex hope you’re doing well thank you for another wonderful podcast ❤

@aryanchopra1365 3 ай бұрын

The future oscillates drastically between tech-topia and complete and utter devastation.

@normalnoose5795 3 ай бұрын

How so?

@Hellrage5076 3 ай бұрын

@@normalnoose5795 Brilliant people innovating every day for a better future vs idiotic sociopaths making decisions in the world's governments + capitalism

@MrCaptainTea 3 ай бұрын

What a wannabee woke comment lmao

@MrCaptainTea 3 ай бұрын

Wow. Deeeeep.

@sinnwalker 3 ай бұрын

Like literally anything in life lmao. Life is always walking the line of dystopia and utopia, always has been always will be, until one day it ends, if it ever truly does.

@gordonicus4637 2 ай бұрын

The movement of Boston Dynamics robots is just amazing. I've not seen any others that compare...

@phoenixthottam5793 2 ай бұрын

Outstanding interview, Lex. Extraordinary insight and value .. One of your best!

@2008shania 2 ай бұрын

Finally Boston dynamic is in the house 😊

@apostolosonemanarmybumgete9626 3 ай бұрын

This guy is creating a weapon even better than the atomic bomb and he is smilling with his flower shirt....

@SP-ye8hj 3 ай бұрын

Damn I’m blown away by how articulate Lex has become. He’s come a long way

@dscott333 3 ай бұрын

The future is exciting.. NOW IS EXCITING

@freakymundo 2 ай бұрын

This was a really enjoyable interview. Thanks!

@Ivan1234772 2 ай бұрын

Lex, you are a legend! Just loved this conversation. 🎉❤😊

@merlinmelon Ай бұрын

I've wanted an interview like this ever since I first saw a Boston Dynamics video

@starmap 3 ай бұрын

Lex is always bringing the most interesting discussions.

@zactranten3235 3 ай бұрын

Lex, you have been leaving me hanging. I keep refreshing, waiting for more pods. Miss ya bub.

@annaberzitskaya9865 23 күн бұрын

I’m amazed by this interview!

@Nighttimebandit 2 ай бұрын

Great episode Lex! I love how you guys make this so easy to understand for people who aren't engineers and just want to understand whats going on in the robotics world and the advancement thats been made.

@andreewert1925 3 ай бұрын

The Robot Backflip was cute..Very interesting..Keep it up..Great Interview, great content..DARPA..tell, me more...lol

@user-li2vu3ir1i 2 ай бұрын

Love this podcast can't wait till I'm home so I can get back into. Look forward to catching up when I get out hopefully won't be long in here

@samarthpatil27 2 ай бұрын

This is the first of your interviews I've fully watched! Please have James Dyson next.

@jamesfoster5205 3 ай бұрын

Nice to see Lex beaming so much in his introduction.

@missh1774 3 ай бұрын

Actuators? Very cool. Had no idea there was an inverted pendulum that had the 3 point energy system. Stimulating topic for anyone into building and piecing together mechanical concepts. Gotta love that motto too. Thanks Marc and Lex!

@santiagoriosolaya7788 Ай бұрын

it was a really inspiring interview. especially when they talked about what engineering was all about.

@Brian-S 2 ай бұрын

As someone into rc heavily this is the interview I've been waiting for! Thanks lex for another awesome guest

@southerncomfortuk 3 ай бұрын

Such an interesting conversation once again 🙏🙏🙏

@samuk9816 2 ай бұрын

Key observation: 1:29:10 ”we got good at getting DARPA funding”. I’ve seen that problem with many teams/companies; they get good at getting grants or subsidies and optimize their organization to that end, rather than optimizing products for customers.

@yarivdrori4992 2 ай бұрын

I agree with you in principal, but this is groundbreaking tech, at its infancy, and with enormous long term potential. It is perfectly fine to invest in this potential without immediately pressing for revenue generating applications, which would kill the opportunity.

@ekothesilent9456 2 ай бұрын

@@yarivdrori4992but they are immediately pressing for revenue at the expense of the product quality both long and short term. The grants would be the “revenue” in this situation and the priority towards these grants instead of quality and design is what’s going to harm its quality long term… honestly I’m basically saying the same thing he said.. not even sure your logic in disagreeing

@moegeek 22 күн бұрын

Marc, I'm a huge fan of your work, and especially liked your inspiration story about seeing the robot parts in the lab. As a kid, I had a book with pictures of the GE Walking Truck that always gave me hope for the future of robotics. Thank you for all of your work, and especially for this wonderful interview.

@karounos 2 ай бұрын

This is a very educational interview for me, thank you.

@TheSunscratch 3 ай бұрын

Fantastic talk!

@aladeadeseun5288 3 ай бұрын

I learn a lot from listening to the prof. Robotic is one of the field I'll like to venture into. Well done lex, keep it up.

@TheCynicalNihilist 2 ай бұрын

The duality of man and robotics: Man must walk before it can run, robotics must run before it can walk.

@Wm. Ай бұрын

Thanks for putting this together and sharing! I'm still crushed they didn't include more of you in 2049, but love watching these glimpses into your life. I appreciate your honesty and fearlessness.

@jacobcochrane9069 3 ай бұрын

If you just listen, it's amazing how much the guest sounds like Michael Malice. His voice, accent, pace...

@Jane-yj1to 2 ай бұрын

I love Big Dog, they would be so helpful on Ranches and Farms.

@samhianblackmoon 3 ай бұрын

We all can’t be engineers. So I especially appreciate all of the people that work overtime without sleep and eating, that work w/o recognition only to see the the few take all of the credit

@muzboz 2 ай бұрын

Very interesting, I love Marc's attitude and flair, and his shirt is perfect. :D

@dynodyno6970 3 ай бұрын

Lex is my favorite podcaster and most importantly interviewer. I would put your ability to interview up against any other human on this earth. I also admire how humble you are, maybe one day you could do a solo podcast and talk about your though process on things, and how you manage to stay humble. I understand who you are on the podcast may not be the way you are 100% of the time off the podcast, but I want to be more like you. From your accomplishments, work ethic, humbleness, and ability to have empathy for people from all point of views. Would really appreciate that lex

@2DReanimation 3 ай бұрын

"how you stay humble" Easy: he's interviewing the smartest and most accomplished human beings on the daily. That's got to humble any sane person ^^ But I agree Lex is great!

@CarlosGoga 3 ай бұрын

¡Muchas gracias, Lex! I receive every new podcast as a beautiful surprise. Please, keep going 🌹

@awolffromamongus875 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Lex. You keep my mind uncomfortable, but my curiosity satisfied.

@NoorkeiBoston 3 ай бұрын

Oooooh, well said. 😊😊😊 Are you a poet? If not, consider yourself one.

@pablolopez-garcia853 2 ай бұрын

This is GREAT, GREAT, GREAT! Two extraordinarily talented individuals who dare to dream and pursue their dreams diligently. I couldn't of something more motivational than this: congrats and THANKS for giving us this powerful source of inspiration.

@AngDee 3 ай бұрын

My favorite podcast & host. Rock On Lex 😎✌🏼🇺🇸🍸

@lawrencebob4250 2 ай бұрын

God Bless you lex, your doing God's work with this Podcast. Love Marc, his definatly one of the greats

@jessicaryan9820 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely loved this!!!

@NeilHighley 2 ай бұрын

Good to hear a positive outlook for AI for a change.

@andygish3461 2 ай бұрын

These robots today are unbelievable and incredibly amazing. I can't even begin to imagine where robotics will be in the future. This is the kind of interview and topics is why I love this podcast!!

@Jackalreid 2 ай бұрын

"I hurt my toe, it made it hard to run" seems kind of important 😂 love you

@Virakotxa 2 ай бұрын

Missed you this time, Lex! Hope it was for good!

@user-pz6hs6wi6f 3 ай бұрын

Damn yes! Some much needed short reprieve from the misery and death from the previous episodes. This is prime lex 🙂

@NYriver1-pw7or 2 ай бұрын

I love Hypeloot, it's one of the best project I have ever seen in a while

@greenseed6807 3 ай бұрын

is boston dynamics working on exoskeletons and if not why not (asking as quadriplegic )

@cogoid 3 ай бұрын

The theoretical model to explain and control biped locomotion was developed by Miomir Vukobratović in 1970s, in Yugoslavia. The motivation for his work was first a medical one, precisely the therapeutic exoskeletons. Only afterwards this theory was used by Boston Dynamics for walking robots. I guess it is already very challenging to make a good walking robot, but to make a device that would safely work with a person involves a great deal of additional concerns. There is an exponentially increasing number of the scientific publications in robotic exoskeletons, so there is certainly research being done in this area, and hopefully there will be some good results that people could use.

@bellat8448 2 ай бұрын

This is amazing and scary as heck at the same time.

@garyswift9347 2 ай бұрын

We have a SPOT robot from BD at our Michelin tire plant, in Lexington SC. It has a dedicated operator, and they use it for a variety of things. It goes to the local schools to show off for the kids occasionally as well, so it's not top secret information or anything. On a different note: being a good mechanical troubleshooter is a unique skill set, which seems to be at odds with other types of skill sets that people can have. Not everyone enjoys being covered in hot hydraulic oil, sweat filling your safety glasses, while extracting a broken fastener from a hole, with people waiting for you. We high-five and fist-bump after hard tasks, just like athletes do after a good play. I love that feeling. To any Engineers reading: Threaded fasteners are for fools. Remember that.

@kiaranr 2 ай бұрын

Listening to this while I'm designing a robot chassis in Fusion 360 and sipping ☕ Peak comfy.

@adamf.9835 2 ай бұрын

Great Episode.👍

@romanfatulaev2296 3 ай бұрын

Привет из России. Было очень интересно. Роботы всегда вдохновляли меня. Когда всю работу начнут делать роботы, то люди наконец-то смогут понять, кто они такие на самом деле.

@taylorbarnard4880 2 ай бұрын

Awesome interview! Thanks lex

@conors2104 2 ай бұрын

this is amazing

@cacogenicist 3 ай бұрын

I wanted to hear more about hands. Fine motor dexterity.

@nicholasbrown9447 3 ай бұрын

Great, fun interview.

@mikehuesser1058 2 ай бұрын

I used to take the the starters out and put rolled up cotton cloth inside with about 3/8 of an inch sticking out take a large dry cleaning bag and tape the hole up in the top.Then take 2 pieces of straw grass and form an X with the bottom of the bag using very little tape then fuel the aluminum starter can with lighter fluid before taping it at the point where the straw crisscrossed. Had a helper hold the bag at the top light the wick and supercharged the bag with a matchbook. In the winter they would lift out of sight and we watched them ride the air currents.We used CO 2 canisters for the match heads and depending on how tight it was packed you ended up with a rocket or a bomb .Good times in the sixties in the Willamette Valley Oregon.

@wogvorph 3 ай бұрын

Love this guys videos where he plays for the live crowd! He just looks a bit different there...

@user-sy5is2uw4s 3 ай бұрын

You both inspire me immensely! Please keep being creative, innovative, have fun, and keep making our species proud. Salute!! May 2024 bring ALL of us growth, patience, and useful fruit. 🙏 -JRoot

@rockyraccoonhendrix1733 2 ай бұрын

He reminds me of the mad scientist from the first seasons of South Park.

@almostrandomnickname Ай бұрын

keep the good interviews to relevant people. thks .

@CreatronixDE 3 ай бұрын

I love this episode 😍

@misterfelixguy11 3 ай бұрын

I applied for a few different positions at the AI Institute. Sounds like my dream job!!

@paulrastrelli 3 ай бұрын

Had missed ya bub. Hope You and Your's are Well my dear friend 🙌🏾❤️✨

@niklasaronsson5196 2 ай бұрын

Make it a goal in life to find a job you like as much as Marc loves building!

@65vb255 3 ай бұрын

great work bud

@mattphorwich 3 ай бұрын

It would be great to hear what the best horticulture people are learning about growing more nutritious food as well,and how robotics could combine...plants animals and robotics...working together in the gardens! 💪 🧠 🐝 🐬

@Kurukx 3 ай бұрын

Boston Dynamics is amazing...

@Stfugb2s 2 ай бұрын

1:01:00 - "pixel values aren't words" OpeanAI: "hold my beer"

@skippy6086 3 ай бұрын

I used to program industrial robots for heavy industries. I'm retired now but it was such a fun job! I think I hit it at a good time though cuz AI will easily be able to develop programs in hours that took me weeks to get working. It's kind of a shame that will people will miss the joy of programming.

@plumbing1 3 ай бұрын

I automated a bunch of developer jobs for easy side income

@2DReanimation 3 ай бұрын

I think the logic I learned from programming is applicable to so much else that it should always be taught to everyone. And taught even earlier in school. I mean it's an application of all the other subjects taught, where children can directly apply their knowledge and see results on the screen, or even in toy robots. Thinking programming will die out is like human creativity will die out. But looking at children getting addicted to devices and performing incredibly worse in school makes it seem not so unrealistic either.

@GudieveNing 3 ай бұрын

@@2DReanimationspot on on all counts. Love programming.

@adel86360 Ай бұрын

AI will not replace developers. Current over hyped LLM models like GPT-4 are not able to reason and it is not going to improve any soon.

@plumbing1 Ай бұрын

@@adel86360 lmao, famous last words

@josh0n 3 ай бұрын

House cleaning is such a big use case for the household market. I want a robot that can clean the bathroom toilet, sink, bath etc. or a series of small specialized ones... Roomba was step 1.

@ar800 2 ай бұрын

This podcast is very informative. From a different journalistic perspective, it gives me the mental tools to decipher between Atomic Intelligence and Central Intelligence. No matter the difference, the imminent output must be world trade. Rock on, planet.