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Marcolmar Cetme L Thumbs up or down?

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Machine gun DAD.

Machine gun DAD.

Күн бұрын

I give you my opinion on this gun.
No Live fire, just straight talk

Пікірлер: 81
@rickyspanish9002
@rickyspanish9002 2 жыл бұрын
These rifles are probably the coolest looking rifles there are
@miguelencanarias
@miguelencanarias 5 ай бұрын
Spaniard here, of military age in the transition years between the CETME C and L. Unanimous opinion among servicemen? The C was an indestructible, reliable monster of good ol' wood and steel, kicking like a mule but that would never let you down. The L thing was a plastic toy that you couldn't stare at from a distance without it spontaneously disassembling, guaranteed to jam every five shots, three if shot in anger. Imagine that in the hands of an army of conscripts from a country with no gun culture. Truth be told, the original design was really good, it was the bean counting at mass production that altered the specs and screwed it all up (early production guns are still in service and working fine). Also, the ergonomics rationale for having to push a button in that weird position to hold the bolt open was a mistery for all involved. So, great review, man.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 5 ай бұрын
Yes the L was a great idea executed poorly. Seems like they took no input from actual soldiers.
@miguelencanarias
@miguelencanarias 5 ай бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg Looks good, though.
@charlesbrittain5792
@charlesbrittain5792 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I will say that with my experience with C93’s, they are under priced at their current 1200-1500 price point.
@Quincy556
@Quincy556 2 жыл бұрын
Shh 🤫
@fg42t2
@fg42t2 2 жыл бұрын
I own this rifle also. I agree 100 % with your straight talk. I also can not get a cheek weld and a sight picture with any comfort. I will also keep it long term. I prefer the Beretta AR 70 or AR 15 s.
@RUBIZEN
@RUBIZEN 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought mine at Buds. $1230 out the door. Used but looks almost unfired. Wanted one mostly for an investment. Thanks for the honest review.
@claytonandry
@claytonandry 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews on this rifle, hopefully I’ll get one before this year is over.
@JCG105
@JCG105 2 жыл бұрын
Fuckin' LOVE this review. Straight-up, no-bullshit, good info. Thanks DAD ;-)
@airsoftdude1990
@airsoftdude1990 11 ай бұрын
Mine has been very reliable with all ammo, tula included. One issue I’ve had though is over the time the gun damages feed lips on the steel mags. It will put dents in the front. The mags work fine with the dents in the cetme but will cause jams in other guns. So you have to take a few mags aside and dedicate those only to the cetme
@edmoore1661
@edmoore1661 Ай бұрын
Update on my Cetme L. I could not get it to function reliably with any 55 62 or 77 gr brass. It did shoot steel ammo. I got a F/A bolt carrier from Apex and swapped the bolt carriers from the original to the surplus F/A. Runs like a scalded dog now, shoots everything including frangible ammo. I compared the F/A surplus carrier to the one from Marcolmar and other then the cuts Marcolmar added to the underside I can't fine the difference except the tail seems to be a little bit thinner? Weird.
@choochoo9436
@choochoo9436 2 жыл бұрын
I have both the CETME L and LC, both run great. For some reason mine can run with Tula ammo no problem. On my L I opted for the rail and put a red dot on it.
@tomfrommichigan
@tomfrommichigan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice. What you said makes perfectly good sense. I'll be watching your channel.
@grandtheftavocado
@grandtheftavocado 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up the green with no rail and agree with you on everything in the review. I wanted one before they dry up and the prices double or triple.
@Ac22768
@Ac22768 Жыл бұрын
Total thumbs up, the manual of arms is whatever.
@regmason2329
@regmason2329 11 ай бұрын
Great review. Just bought mine and was also IMPRESSED with the manual. In addition to all the reasons you mentioned- it has clear photos and print that does not require a magnifier to read! In other words a quality manual for a quality gun. This mfg has their stuff together!
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 11 ай бұрын
I did a follow up. After break in my now shoots steel case
@rogerloess2379
@rogerloess2379 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review
@dexm2010
@dexm2010 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@xXvenomslasherXx
@xXvenomslasherXx 2 жыл бұрын
Troy battle mags fit!! And I love the manual aswell, especially the suddle screw you's to the atf and nfa
@adjacentchannel
@adjacentchannel Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have three and never had the intention of actually treating them like I do my AR's. When the parts dry up and these are no longer made the investment will show it's value. I may end up just shooting one on occasion and leave the others as unfired for collector value.
@felixcervantes5678
@felixcervantes5678 11 ай бұрын
great video ❤❤
@tsmgguy
@tsmgguy 2 жыл бұрын
Original Spanish steel mags are available now for not much in 12 and 30 round versions. These are copies for Belgian FNC mags and they work great. They are particularly easy to disassemble for cleaning. I think you'll find that most .223 ammo will work just fine after the initial break-in period with MILSPEC 5.56 ammo.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Shot it this weekend failed terribly with Winchester white box. Ran fine with green tip nato ammo
@HighGear39
@HighGear39 2 жыл бұрын
I love historic fighting rifles. Fal's, G3's, M1A's and have always wanted a Cetme LC after I saw the hottest female cop I've ever seen in my life carrying a Cetme LC in Barcelona! It's like she had her pants custom made for her....anyway, back to the rifle. I picked up a MCM Cetme LC with the rail and love it! It has been 100% reliable with all ammo and is reasonably accurate. About 2.5 MOA with trash ammo and a dot sight. I'll take that! I'll echo that is is not a home defense or go to war rifle. Use a quality AR every day and twice on Sunday. My choice is a PWS MK-116, or a MCX...but for a great shootable piece of history, which will make people at the range ask what the heck it is...this one is a winner!
@John-ro3vu
@John-ro3vu 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Not a perfect gun by any means but a very cool one that I saw growing up as a kid in the 1990s and thought I would never be able to own. Now I have one that I can actually take out and enjoy at the range.
@looneytuneslefty4811
@looneytuneslefty4811 2 жыл бұрын
That manual tells you it needs the 556 for break in. It should function with wolf after you put enough nato brass downrange. I also own a C93 and I can tell you it is most certainly worth more than a 1000. Mine has HK parts and is the most accurate 556 I own. Closest thing to an HK33 in 556 you're going to get for less than $3000+ IF you can find an MKE. The HK version, Ive seen anywhere from 4000 to 5000.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 33 and a z43 rifle. The c93 is ok but not close to the zenith. C93s vary in quality dramatically. I’ve had 3 2 were ok shot pretty good. 1 was complete garbage. Not the parts but the receiver. It was completely out of spec
@looneytuneslefty4811
@looneytuneslefty4811 2 жыл бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg They had several different builders. The gray ones are shit, but the first run and the PTR made ones are excellent. I've never had a malfunction and I've used it in several rifle competitions. I also bought mine for $650 with HK bipod and 3 45rders. But, I wouldn't sell it for $1500 if offered. Again, those MKEs, which are practically unobtainium, go for more than double that...
@Flatline74
@Flatline74 Жыл бұрын
I have a CETME L coming next week! Can’t wait! Buying it mostly for historical purposes and buying a MarColMar brand because they are a great company and now the only game in town for CETME L’s.
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 2 жыл бұрын
With me, I understand the quirks of the design- and is what it is. BUT where I care is reliability- I don't like paying 1400 for a rifle that wont shoot- so as long as it runs- manual of arms is what it is.
@ruger0338338
@ruger0338338 2 жыл бұрын
There great guns. I shoot a suppressor on mine works wonderful. Wish I could afford the other versions of it
@Deepwatr1
@Deepwatr1 10 күн бұрын
This guys cool
@vandidandi
@vandidandi Жыл бұрын
Great, honest and straight forward review. Which mil spec ammo that shot well when you where shooting it? adding a few seconds or few min. of shooting it would make this review even better.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg Жыл бұрын
I found ss109 is the best ammo. I’ve got about 300 rds on it now. It is now running on wolf steel
@henrybrown8624
@henrybrown8624 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, intelligent video.
@lordofwar2006
@lordofwar2006 2 жыл бұрын
Lancer magazine work in my cetme LC
@WrecklessSandwich
@WrecklessSandwich 2 жыл бұрын
I was interested in one of these because I live in a ban state. I have a 9mm PTR and was hoping for the same manual of arms in a rifle cartridge without going to the weight of the G3. The difference in the manual of arms is a show stopper though. What were they thinking having controls way up by the rear sight block? That's not what hands are shaped like!
@bungalobill7941
@bungalobill7941 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet looking rifle. Love the green. They should have dropped the stock down some. Maybe you could get a custom stock made. Too bad it doesn't have gas adjustment.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Just buy the optional rail. Mount an optic
@bungalobill7941
@bungalobill7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg Watching some other reviews people had initial jams with lighter 223 but then the gun leveled out after a number of rounds.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
@@bungalobill7941 I have about 200 rds through mine. Commercial may eventually run. But steel case probably not as I put a used recoil spring in the gun and it still wouldn’t run steel But steel may go away thanks to joe
@bungalobill7941
@bungalobill7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg Thanks for your replies. I am considering the LC model with a top rail.
@Hermann-lz2jb
@Hermann-lz2jb 2 жыл бұрын
I still need a weldament set from them, would you say it’s safe to buy from them? Wasn’t sure if they were still shipping orders
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Call and ask. The lady who answers is a straight shooter.
@christophereger1053
@christophereger1053 2 жыл бұрын
Great review
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@NFASolutions
@NFASolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Is the limitation on making one into a postie, parts availability or labor? It would be interesting to bring two in, form 2 one and keep the other original.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
The design requires a receiver modification. I was hoping for a trigger pack post sample like a hk. I don’t have the funds or I’d post sample one.
@Ret2Play
@Ret2Play 2 жыл бұрын
I just got one. I’m a newbie to hobby. Can you tell me what NATO spec ammo you used? I have Wolf and you said that wouldn’t work…just curious what worked well for you. Thanks!
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
NATO spec. Either m193 ball or m882 ammo. Or similar. Usually has nato circle with cross if surplus. ammoseek.com/ammo/5.56x45mm-nato?ikw=M193.
@gregmcdonald3361
@gregmcdonald3361 2 жыл бұрын
Very well put on sponsorship
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean patreon? I don’t like asking for money.
@nakrobinnajak55
@nakrobinnajak55 2 ай бұрын
3:26 he pull rifle from that bag.
@91F2Z
@91F2Z 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, impressed with your presentation. Refreshing not to have some tactifool pushing sponsored crap. Oh, by the way, my L is in the mail...
@cocoliche66
@cocoliche66 10 ай бұрын
OK Video
@austinsterling3655
@austinsterling3655 2 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to know how much the ultimax 100 was when it was first released for public/civilian sale?
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
For law enforcement the mk3 was like 2700. Used mk 2 were 1200 for law enforcement. They were not sold to the public
@austinsterling3655
@austinsterling3655 2 жыл бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg those numbers are incredible those things are In the 50k plus range these days
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinsterling3655 They’re not that high I think I mark 2 is around 7 to 8 and Mark 3 maybe 10 to 12 and a 2000 and you can pretty much ask whatever you want
@austinsterling3655
@austinsterling3655 2 жыл бұрын
The only ultimax 100 I've seen was going for 55k in 2020
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinsterling3655 that was probably a pre sample
@gregmcdonald3361
@gregmcdonald3361 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the CETME LC?
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t afford to buy one to try it out. But I’m sure the build quality would be the same
@gregmcdonald3361
@gregmcdonald3361 2 жыл бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg I value your honesty...on current market prices. I bought one of the CETME L just to have in my collection. I'd love to have an LC, but it's not in my budget yet
@bigbadromo1
@bigbadromo1 2 жыл бұрын
Are any of your machine guns transferable or are they all post/pre samples
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
I have some transferable left. I had more but had to downsize to pay for stuff
@johncahill1232
@johncahill1232 Жыл бұрын
What's that tell you about our government
@yeahiknowimcute5830
@yeahiknowimcute5830 2 жыл бұрын
Mine eats wolf and Tula like candy. Mine likes the lancer mags
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Is yours a marcolmar?
@yeahiknowimcute5830
@yeahiknowimcute5830 2 жыл бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg yes. same as yours. First 200 rds, I use high power brass ammo to break in. Then I use wolf/tula afterwards with no issues.
@oneleaf_ai
@oneleaf_ai 2 жыл бұрын
Are you interested in OneLeaf Night Vision Unit? OneLeaf always performs better than other brands. We can provide 1 free sample to you for a comparison video and honest review is welcomed. Let's discuss the details.
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks but to be truthful night vision is out of my skill set. I don’t think I could do a fair review for either your company or my viewers even if I did stay at a holiday inn last night.
@oneleaf_ai
@oneleaf_ai 2 жыл бұрын
@@psp1921tsmg Thank you anyway.
@ourichie
@ourichie 2 жыл бұрын
Yours won’t shoot Tula? Mine rate everything that I feed it and it’s primarily cheap eastern bloc crap
@user-du6yr1qx5d
@user-du6yr1qx5d Жыл бұрын
Зря ,сетме, на G - 36 поменяли...если от своей G - 36 даже германцы отказались...
@Greasymarsupial
@Greasymarsupial 2 жыл бұрын
Cetme mags are cheap And mine cheap steel fine
@eduardguijarro5001
@eduardguijarro5001 6 ай бұрын
You dont know ever of this gun
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