Solid response. FYI, I do not publicly identify as a Protestant, as I keep all that information private.

Islam, secularism, and Protestantism all rebutted in one video. Nice work.

I like IP because he will defend the Catholics and Orthodox on Mary and idolatry

Any man that would take a child is evil beyond help. Any father that allows is worse

Mary was noble and selfless and *wanted* to help in God's plan. And an all good, all loving God would never force pregnancy on her like that in the first place.

They ignore fact that Mary was Virgin

12:29 dude my brain exploded! It was like a puzzle piece clicking into place! Thanks Trent! Glory be to God. I understand even more!

Jesus Christ needed me to see this video as I am in RCIA and was feeling attacked by Protestants on Marian dogma. Thank you so much Trent. God bless you! You are a light on this dark earth. I will pray for you and your family!!!

My sister went into puberty at two years old. Not many people know about precocious puberty or how intense the medication is, especially for a baby. It was really hard on my family but I'm so glad they caught it and took care of my baby sister so well!

Thank you Trent! Very helpful!! Child marriage is so disturbing😢 I love the catholic teaching about free will and consent❤

Oh hey bae grab a donut and let’s watch Trent together

Also, besides Mary's rare grace We don't use Mary as an example of how to marry our teens because we don't imagine that our men are equal to God.

My goodness.... I think this just convinced me of the Immaculate Conception

Very heavy topic and you handled with great care, Trent. I had never even considered many of these uncomfortable questions and it's a blessing to have these responses in advance so I don't have a theological crisis one day later on. 😊

I was always conflicted about Mary being young teen It felt wrong but I think what you said makes perfect sense Thank you so much for tackling such important issues I was born catholic and it seems like I still know so litlle and need to undertand what I stand for...

Definitely wish you’d do more apologetics on Islam 👍

So grateful for all your work.

This is one of his best videos. The way he elegantly ties it all together with the immaculate conception was masterful. And that this can be used both as a refutation of islam and Protestantism, while also a defense of the immaculate conception is Catholic apologetic art.

Mohammed marrying and having sex with a minor is just one of the questionable things about his character. He expelled the jewish town of Bani Nadir in Arabia, he stole their wealth and enslaved their women. At the jewish Arabian town of Bani Kaybar he and his army invaded, here he ordered the beheading of 900 jews. At the Arabian jewish town of Bani Qurayza he killed the citizens and husband/family of jewish 17yo newly married Safiyah, he took her as a slave then he forced her to marry him, he was 60yo
. Mohammed had 65 campaigns of war all successful, in one of those campaigns he wiped out the Jews of Medina in Arabia. Yet he is declared the perfect example of a human being.

I need to register the ideas in my head for copyright cuz this is the 2nd time Trent has done a video that i planned to do something similar🫠 dude is 2 steps ahead everytime.

Amazing as always, I never come away from Trents videos without being enlightened and amazed. Many thanks.

This might be the best video I’ve seen from you. Great work!

Not to mention Allah calls Muhammad the pattern of conduct for all times. Muslims will resort to tuquoque fallacy to try to alleviate the embarassment of his practices, but it falls short since Islams claim is that Muhamamad is to be followed, which is what the Sunnah is for. Muhammad is supposed to be the seal of the prophets, the final messenger and great pattern of conduct until the end times. Yet, Child marriage is just one of the issues you will encounter when looking at the conduct of Muhammad. You will see wife beating which is also endorsed by the Quran, sex slavery, torture for going against Islam. Theres a plethora of other things which make Islam a flawed and poor man made religion, but forsure this one is pretty bad.

@Trent you and @Michael Jones should do a video together about this topic please. Thanks for your hard work and studies. GOD BLESS your family and you. Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷

Super interesting argument that I'd never heard before! Thanks for explaining this, Trent.

This is your best video. I don't think you'll ever beat this one

Thank you Trent, May God bless you and your family.

Thank you, Trent! May God keep blessing you and your beautiful family and the Holy Spirit taking you to the wholeness of the Truth to help others like me :)

It's so astonishing to see the difficult and seemingly strange teachings of the 19th-20th century popes continually vindicated in prophetic ways. The protection of the Holy Spirit is incredible.

The fact he uses evolutionary psychology for his argument but doesn’t believe in evolution is hilarious.

Excellent response Trent. God help that little girl🙏

This is a fascinating angle. Thank you!

Very good response and an argument.

Brilliantly argued, as always.

Great Video! Thanks Trent.

Very enlightening connecting between freedom and the immaculate conception. Thank you

Great work...

The red polo makes Trent look like the Papa John's guy.

Woww!!! What a beaU….tiful argument!! Thanks a lot, Trent, for illuminating this brilliant side of this great dogma. .

I can handle almost anything, but this episode`s topic made queasy. I am very happy I have heard those arguments regarding the Blessed Mother before. And I am very glad to see even these have an answer. God bless you Mr.Trent Horn. Through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the Mother of God, in the Most Holy Name of Jesus Christ, our Blessed Lord and Savior. Amen! Immaculate Hearts of Jesus and Mary, I place my trust in you. Amen.

I mean, a couple of days later, Mary uttered a praise that shows she is at least of the intellectual level of a fully gifted psalmist. That's what we do know for sure.

God bless you brother proud Catholic

Even in ancient times, there were people who recognized that child or teen marriage was less than ideal. I can't remember which Roman historian it was (maybe Tacitus) writing about the customs of the Germanic tribes, he noted that they tended to marry in their early twenties, as opposed to the mid-teen marriages common in the Greco-Roman world, and spoke favourably about this practice as being more suited to preserving the health and vitality of women.

love your channel, hope in the future you speak in the HM's United Kingdom.

The Blessed Virgin Mary was age 14 at the time of the Annunciation and 15 at Nativity. And *14 was the normal age for girls to marry* in first century Judea. Mary was already betrothed (legally married) to Joseph at Annunciation. Pagan Roman Empire set girls' minimum age for marriage at age 12.

I understand marrying a couple to few years younger but at 9 years old that’s just disgusting

Beautiful. Thank-you. 💕🙏🏼💕

Wow, this video gave me a new insight into Mary and how to refute Christians who do not believe the Lord had a reason to make Mary to be conceived without sin, to be the most blessed of woman, and to be a sinless human. Any normal woman may have said yes to the conception of the Lord, having fear in the back of her mind, if she said no to the Lord. The power structure of authority asking a mere human to conceive the Lord may have been perceived as over bearing and not an act of pure freewill; but not for our Lady who always had perfect love for our Lord and would do anything out of that perfect love. For her not to have been perfect would have put into question her 'yes' to the Lord. Its just another great consideration to keep in the apologetics satchel when discussing our beloved Mother Mary. Thanks!

Please do more on Islam AND Marian Dogmas!

Trent, I am Catholic apologist (for some eastern european language area), with focus on criticising islam and similar false views. In video there is claim "marrige can be consumated when child reaches puberty". It is actually not true (Maybe Haqiqatjou sounded like that, but he never used those words), because muslims differ puberty and physical strength. To them, it is not matter of puberty at all (Aisha was neither in puberty in 6 nor 9), but: physical strength. In other words, if child would be not torn apart by sexual intercourse, then sexual intercourse is okay. Hanafi Fiqh says clearly that "The permissibility of consummating a marriage with a girl is based on her physical strength and not on her age". I won't put link from this source because KZfaq would remove my commet, but you can find that if you Google by question: "What is the minimum age for a girl for her to consumate her marriage with her husband? Is it puberty?" by Shaykh Ebrahim Desai, on IslamQA org site (one of the most popular islamic sites in the world). You would find that answer. Also, IslamQA info (probably most popular islamic site in the world) says this: "Marriage to a young girl before she reaches puberty is permissible according to sharee’ah, and it was narrated that there was scholarly consensus on this point". That is because in Quran and islam, there is something called "iddah", that is, waiting period before woman can have sex before remarrying. As you can see, since that also aplies to children (because Quran it states: "and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature)"), that means also that children can have sexual intercourse in islam since they are ones who are still immature. Later, at the end in same source they say "to marry a minor girl does not imply that it is permissible to have intercourse with her, rather the husband should not have intercourse with her until she becomes able for that", but we found in frist source what that means in islam; and that is precisely they wouldn't want to write word puberty, since they know it is not matter of puberty. Not age. But physical strength. So in other words, if muslim concludes his "wife" is strong enough by age of 7, that applies for having intercourse with her. No real age limit. Of course, today's liberal muslims like to sugar coat these true teachings of islam, but that is called taqiyya in islam (trying to conceal the truth). But that is hypocristy. I would like to get more into dismantling islam, Trent. Maybe commenting on classich fiqh books, like Reliance of the Traveller. You would find there terrible teachings where of course sexual intercourse with children is approved. That is all in shariah law. God bless you dear Trent.

It might be worth bearing in mind that marriage is a sacrament and a valid sacrament has a matter, a form and an intention. The little girl in the video was not giving her consent, therefore she did not have the intention required. In contrast, the Blessed Virgin Mary agreed to go along with God's plan.

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There's child marriage and then there's child marriage. One shouldn't be very offensive even if it is imprudent and would have to be forced today: two pre pubescent teenagers were married for the purpose of property but usually wouldn't even live together or consummate the marriage until years later. This kind of thing between two children is what would happen in Spain or Southern Italy, etc. Then there's the version defended by Islam which is some dirty old man marrying a pre pubescent girl. Polygamy also goes hand in hand with pedopholia, one of the reasons the response to Mormonism was so violent

This is random, but I have been walking around my neighborhood praying the Rosary and I hope it helps get rid of crime especially disgusting crimes like pedo and pedo unions. >w

A very fitting video for the month of May. Totus tuus

That beginning is sickening.

I have had much interest in this subject for decades. I'm 74 now. I was a secondary-school teacher for 31 years. I have to say I saw many years ago a continual rise in immaturity among the young. Each decade seemed worse than the previous. I would say a mature teen girl, and guy, is rare to find now. I think we all know people now in their fifties who think and live like teens. And I believe this constant "readjusting" to solve this problem, such as increasing the legal marriage ages, is only a slippery slope. No doubt many marriages now are done immaturily, but what is needed are solutions such as increasing maturity back to the teen years. One big solution, I am convinced, is to stop the American/modern belief that everyone should go through an academic, secondary education. I believe academics is not for everyone once the teen years are reached. Those who would do better learning a trade need to separate to trade schools.

God help those poor children 😭😭 خدا به بچه ها کمک کنه 🙏🏼🙏🏼 الله يعين الاطفال

12:55 Mind-blowing! I never saw it this way. It makes so much sense

I have always imagined Mary as 15 and Joseph as 30, thus older, but not old.

Good points, Trent

Mary would have been around 15, not a "child" by anyone's cultural standards but our own in the last 50 years or so. In Jewish tradition you're an adult at the age of 13.

I may have to watch this again

I just loved this video. You turned an evil argument into a beautiful explanation of Mary's purity.

You never did circle back to WHY God chose a 12/13 yo Mary instead of when she was older But absolutely great video, & I learned a lot about the Doctrine surrounding Mary!

This makes my blood boil...

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I remember watching CNN's segment and thinking they could have offered the girl's father ten times what that old, perverse man gave to buy her. Did no one speak up for the child? How could any human being allow that to happen? They could've stopped her father, but then I guess they wouldn't have gotten the story they were after.

Another difference I thought of- in Christianity we don't literally recreate biblical life. For example our men don't buy crosses and nail themselves to them to imitate Jesus. Rather, if we have cancer for example, we might think- "I have found my cross. " similarly Mary's example of virginity can often be an inspiration that is mind over body.That's why Mary's age is generally not an issue for us. In islam they actually imitate their prophet in many ways. In my view they misappropriate our Bible this way. Our Bible is not meant to be imitated literally including Mary's age at pregnancy.

Here in England the minimum age for marriage has recently been raised from 16 to 18. However it remains 16 in Scotland and 17 in Northern Ireland.

Yes, Trent please put out more videos on Islam!

I think Mary was young, But I don't think there's any reason to think she was 12 or 13. Maybey like fifteen. Joseph was almost surly the same age.

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Thank you.

Camera looks great

Thanks, Trent! You've given me much to think and pray about. I accept the teaching of the Immaculate Conception, and I have often thought of it as God's way of "stacking the deck" against Satan. It was God's way of insuring that Mary would say yes to the plan of salvation while also preserving her free will. However, I had never heard it said that God would not have been "displeased in any way" (13:50) if she had said no. That is a new point for me to contemplate. But then what would have happened if she HAD said no? I suppose that God would have either created another woman immaculately or He would have found another way to save mankind (?) I have a hard time believing that God would have given up on the project altogether if Mary had said no, but I suppose that would have been His prerogative to do so.

In Luke 1:28 the angel Gabriel says to Mary: ”blessed art thou among WOMEN”. Also, Luke 1:36 “And behold thy COUSIN Elizabeth, she also hath conceived a son IN HER OLD AGE” Compare this with Mark 5:41 “ Taking her by the hand, Jesus said, “Talitha koum!” which means, “LITTLE GIRL, I say to you, get up!” Immediately THE GIRL got up and began to walk around. SHE WAS TWELVE YEARS OLD” And Luke 2:42-43 “And when he was TWELVE YEARS OLD, they going up into Jerusalem…when they returned, THE CHILD Jesus remained in Jerusalem” It is clear in scripture that twelve-year-olds are considered “children” and Mary would not have been referred to as a “Woman” at the annunciation (by the angel nor later, by Elizabeth) if she was a child of twelve. Elizabeth, Mary’s cousin, was “advanced in age”, the same word “probebēkuia” as used for the prophetess Anna in Luke 2:36-37, where it says she was eighty-four years old. It seems unlikely that there would be such a huge age gap to be cousins if Mary was so young. Also, consider the many visions and apparitions of Mary holding baby Jesus. Not one says that the “child” Mary or “young girl” Mary was holding baby Jesus, it’s always “lady”.

These things are always interesting to me as an atheist. Muslims try to bring up Mary when defending Aisha, but they have no response when speaking to an Atheist who believes neither was right. Before anyone attacks 18 or so as an arbitrary number, it is an age that society has more or less agreed upon, in which we believe the person has reasonable mental faculties to be treated as an adult. For those who might try to attack my views on abortion, I am pro-life because I believe all biological life begins at conception. I also don’t believe teens or kids can decide their genders.

As a Protestant, I am not militantly against the Immaculate Conception, I am just merely unconvinced. I mostly don't like the implication that sex is somehow dirty, or bad, since sex is a gift God gave humanity and the very first command.

We need to pray for the conversion of all Mohammadans so that these atrocities will stop taking place. We need the Blessed Virgin Mary to go in there and civilize these people. And yes, I am calling them barbaric. No apologies. Many of these little girls end up pregnant at 10, 11, 12, 13 years old when their bodies are not fully developed yet and the babies conceived take a toll on their bodies, unable to bear them, they are literally torn apart as the baby comes out, many babies and the little girl mothers die in the process, the ones who survive are scared for ever, physically and spiritually. What do their Mohammadan captors do? They shame them for being incapable of producing babies. It is barbaric.

The fact that Mary was 13 or 14 during a time period when general life expectancy was much lower AND children (by our standards) would have already entered the adult workforce and been considered adults is not even remotely in the same ballpark as prepubescent children being married without consent. We also know that Mary consented and understood what she was consenting to. The same absolutely cannot be said about a 6yo, which would never have been considered an adult in any of the cultures at any portion of history.

Superb

Many protestants here using the chance again to attack the Holy Mothers sinlessness.

And what about female genital mutilation? Also, fourteen years old is a lot different than nine years old. Marriage should always be consentual, in any case.

Audio isn't synced up to well to video just to let you know trent( at least for me). Thank you for the video!

Sort of like the idea of God being all knowing picked a human strong, and wise enough to say no but generous and faithful enough to say yes.

Algorithm feeding comment.

17:07 Trent I can envision a protestant response that a grace given to Mary is necessary for the incarnation through to be through Mary's womb, but that the immaculate conception of Mary is not necessary or the only form the grace could take.

Great video, though I have a question about the part where you mentioned about Mary's parents & conception in the Protoevangelium of James, if I may? Cause when you said "facts", I have a feeling they're going to counter by "if those are facts, then why isn't it in scripture? why despite the gospel having been excluded (& some articles said rejected), it's a popular source for Mariology? etc" or "these sound like speculations etc" making it hard to argue with them to the point it drives one up the wall.. Is there a way to go about this? Thank you

just want to say i think Michael made a point, when asked, that he didn't actually announce what type of Christian he is. So we dont *really* know if he is protestant. Though he does seem like a protestant

Hmm, the only thing I kind of question,Trent, is the authority figure relationship argument. Is that a modern view of it? Biblically, becoming pregnant is always shown as a blessing; in fact, barrenness is the curse. I just don’t see the support for someone potentially saying yes solely out of fear of God’s punishment. I see the support for acting out of fear of God’s punishment more generally but when it comes to pregnancy it just seems everyone is eager to say yes 😊 I’m interested in that other guy’s argument for this though. I’m thinking people might say something like “Well in Scripture people who do have original sin do far more risky, sacrificial things and we don’t assume they are doing it merely out of fear of God’s punishment” 🤔🤔

in islam there's no marriage, but trading woman between man and woman's parent.

There has been some recent comprehensive study on this matter of child marriage. The first big misconception that most people seems to have is, young girls always getting married to old dudes. But the actual percentage of this is only around 10/15% of total child marriages. 85/90% of child marriages happens between similar ages girls and boys (usually teenagers)

FYI and help note, which you can use regarding Child marriage (you will find more Muslims coming to you and talking about Child marriage): There will be a point where Muslims talk about India on the subject of Child Marriage. However, the age at which males and females can marry is around 20 since in India, the age of 20 is considered as someone started being an adult.

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Muslims say dont judge Muhammad by the staandards of today, yet Muhammad cant even pass his own standards when his own daughter is involved. And remember Fatima is 8 years older than Aisha wet when Abu Bakr wanted to marry Fatimah, Muhammad said "No, she is too young". 😂 Narrated 'Abdullah bin Buraidah: It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin Buraidah that his father said: "Abu Bakr and 'Umar, may Allah be pleased with them, proposed marriage to Fatimah but the Messenger of Allah said: 'She is young.' (إِنَّهَا صَغِيرَةٌ, inna-haa sagheera) Then 'Ali proposed marriage to her and he married her to him." Sunan an-Nasa'i 26:3223

Do you have a video about the 27-book New Testament mentioning Jesus' brothers and sisters? I've seen others' videos about it which did not convince me.

Trent is the best.

Allah isn't God to begin with