Shogun Samurai TV Series Mariko try to commit seppuku to protest Ishido for not letting her go from the castle. Anjin second Mariko to kill her, Ishido gives her permit and let her leave. #Shōgun #HiroyukiSanada #Samurai
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@arixtrbl629 күн бұрын
the way Mariko looks at John after he steps in and tells her he'll be her second is SO HEAVY. it's like she realizes he finally understands why she's doing all of that, being respectful of her choice even if he does not agree to it. their chemistry is beautiful
@fistan544729 күн бұрын
Its not because he finally understands now, he always did understand he just didnt agree with it one bit and argued against it. Its just he finally accepted her choise instead of trying to change her mind, trying to get in her way. He understands the conundrum she's in, and will willfully kill the woman he loves because that is what SHE needs. He finally put her before what he wants.
@tenkaikazama28 күн бұрын
respect the death of the one you love is not respect, is stupidity. there is nothing after death.
@arixtrbl628 күн бұрын
@@tenkaikazama I wouldn't call it stupidity given how different they viewed life and death. but it was definitely a matter of acceptance, and Anna Sawai herself said it was the most romantic thing in the world for Mariko, to be seen and understood that way.
@Botfodder228 күн бұрын
While so much is different from the book, this isn't necessarily untrue to the spirit of the book; in the book, John himself at one point attempts seppuku which is only stopped by Omi.
@alvinnugraha526427 күн бұрын
@@tenkaikazama How can u be so sure there's nothing after death?
@fullsend497629 күн бұрын
The fact he decided to become his second means he truly loves her. Despite not wanting her to go thru commiting sepuku, he’d rather be the second then allow her to feel like she’s damned to hell. It’s quite poetic for him to do it considering her earlier quote on how a flowers beauty or purpose is when it falls “flowers are only flowers when it falls”. Her whole life after her father’s death is wanting to die, but now her death is given purpose and meaning to her and to those she cares about.
@mirikaku581125 күн бұрын
Yes, truly romantic moment
@emmanuela7528Ай бұрын
Subtle thing about this episode: those with a keen eye would spot that Blackthorne has been sword-training. Everything about his stance and grip and posture has changed from the first time at the beach with Yabushige, where he couldn’t even grip the sword properly. In this episode, he even performs a manoeuvre and kills someone who was trying to kill him. Good on him for putting in the work.
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
fake sword training of a fake samurai.
@id950424 күн бұрын
@@Lalit02Dhanwani Just google "WIlliam Adams, Miura Anjin"
@br0ken_10723 күн бұрын
@@Lalit02Dhanwani "fake samurai" you do know samurai were military nobility rather than pure swordsman, samurai was a title which can be granted by a lord to anyone. So he is a real samurai in the show. Why do garbage people like comment when you don't know anything.
@hyadalko4621 күн бұрын
@@br0ken_107 Weebs be thinking that you need to be pureblooded japanese to even touch a katana.
@morganhobson894120 күн бұрын
@@Lalit02Dhanwani Blackthorne's character is based on William Adams, who was in fact given the title of samurai with no more sword training than we see here in the show. Don't be dumb.
@johnb52827 күн бұрын
The point is that he was willing to do something he was totally against for someone he loved and be haunted by it forever. That is different than trying to convince her for what he himself wanted. I think she respected it immensely.
@id950426 күн бұрын
The way they shot how Anjin helps Mariko to get up by offering his hand and her accepting it looks almost like a marriage ceremony with guests looking at newly wed.
@Taylexwow10 күн бұрын
The pain on her face at the realization she is abandoned by her chosen second and might have to kill herself by her own hand condemning herself to hell (by her Catholic faith) is pure art.....such an amazing performance. As is the expression of relief when Blackthorne realizes this when he tells her to pay hell no mind.
@krisztianmayer29 күн бұрын
It is a stunning scene. One of the best of this show. Her bravery and her loyal heart makes her a true samurai heroine. Whithout John She would have been left alone in this heartbreakingly heavy situation. No one was there to secont her untill John step forward to do it. Their nonverbal communication was very touching. Both Anna and Cosmo deservs a bow for this scene. Great actors!
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
her fake seppuku shit was disgusting she never meant to kill herself she cry for seppuku 16 years and never did anything until it was time when she know she isn't going to survive she put a show .
@cupofjoe.8824 күн бұрын
@@Lalit02Dhanwani ishido burner account lol, she always wanted to die and she willingly put herself in front of the door for that reason
@Lalit02Dhanwani24 күн бұрын
@@cupofjoe.88 this is fiction story there no ishido nor mariko. it took her 16 f***ing years to do what she wanted when she know there is no way she would live so she die dramatically/
@leondhay18 күн бұрын
@@Lalit02Dhanwani OMG you so angry ... OVER FUCKING TV SHOW!!
@BigScalyBird16 күн бұрын
@@cupofjoe.88lolol or Buntaro burner account 😂 why is he so mad 🤣
@NV-wf1nu22 күн бұрын
"Let it from your mind." He tells her to unburden herself of the fear for her own soul, that he understands his true task is not just to ease her death by being her second, but by risking his own soul for hers.
@jacjacobisrael25 күн бұрын
As messed up as that was It was romantic in its own way Its shows that despite how much he hates seeing her kill herself he still stands and with her And she knows how he feels and appreciate him for that
@InkyM413 күн бұрын
What other show could manage "I'm gonna cut your head off" as a declaration of truest love?
@Nikki-4-President19 күн бұрын
For those who is not familiar, the first act of Seppuku is extremely painful if done properly in the guts (instead of the heart). The second act liberates the samurai from the pain. The last psychological chess move was not giving Mariko the second act to instill fear on her. She apparently went with the Seppuku anyway. Blackthorn understood that and volunteered to be the second act. Japanese legend said that some defeated samurai opened up their stomach, took their guts out, and chop them to pieces in front of the winning party before leaning forward for the second act. That action terrified the winning party and served as the samurai's last fighting effort.
@ElZilchoYo17 күн бұрын
Female samurai seppuku was always a stab in the throat anyway, not the gut slicing.
@Taylexwow8 күн бұрын
It also had to do for Mariko that shed go to hell by suicide based on her Catholic faith. A poibt she made clear when she asked Kiyama to second her
@Nikki-4-President7 күн бұрын
@@Taylexwow great insight!
@Nikki-4-President7 күн бұрын
@@ElZilchoYo I am not convinced that the term "Samurai" can be applied to female at that time.
@cesaravegah37875 күн бұрын
@@ElZilchoYoNot always, but yes, for female samurai going straight to the throat cut was deemed as honorable, female seppuku was relatively rare anyways making it a kind of individual event each case, Mariko protesting Lord Ishido actions through the most painful ceremony would had been devastating to him
I agree! Historically, it was done so that the lady would die in a dignified pose. When she tied her knees together, I knew this was being taken seriously.
Its so good to not have read the books 😂😂😂 the intensity of these episode is just off the charts 👏👏👏
@ianmcclure3936Ай бұрын
Same, also it wasn't a great idea watching this before going to bed. Now I can't sleep. lol. The wait for the finale is going to be torturous!
@VDA19Ай бұрын
You definitely should read the book after the show is over. The show skipped a LOT of things. When Mariko died in the book I was heartbroken, their love story is much more complex and sweet there.
@Heartless2000Ай бұрын
@@VDA19 nah I want to see cinematography, wanna hear scores, wanna see acting, books don't have these so it's a pass 🤣🤣
@factspoken9062Ай бұрын
movie capture just a small percent of what is conveyed in the book
@Heartless2000Ай бұрын
@@factspoken9062 so what, books don't have cinematography, scores, acting. I wanna see raw emotion tears dropping, voice cracking ,I don't wanna imagine these things I wanna see and hear them
@JGrimm5220 күн бұрын
When you risk you own soul in hell so your waifu goes to heaven
@BandedcookieАй бұрын
It is unlikely blackthorne would perform his job as second well. But he saw it as sparing her damnation. So even though she may not die quickly, in his eyes what is that to eternal torment.
@attysthoughts3253Ай бұрын
He can swing a sword, hes just unfamiliar with a katana
@hfar_in_the_sky29 күн бұрын
A similar thought occured to me as well. Especially since such clear importance is put on the rosary she gives him
@Brendissimo129 күн бұрын
He's definitely had some training with a cutlass and has combat experience, as you see ample demonstration of later in the episode. I'm pretty sure the toughest thing about this for him is not the physical act of cutting off her head itself. It's the anguish of who he has to do it to.
@shoyupacket557229 күн бұрын
would be a hell of a thing to do for the first time. i can't imagine being the one to do that.
@roberterlandson823427 күн бұрын
Id be concerned it wouldn't be a clean beheading which would be awful for John
@dysonsphere28 күн бұрын
He's not her second in the book. Yabu is, and despite being an absolute a-hole he wants to be perfect for her which is cool because the honouring of their traditions transcend their relationships.
@mirikaku581125 күн бұрын
I love this version more. Yabu second her is so false when he in fact betray them all. It would just be an act. While this version was the ultimate romantic scene amongst this series John and Marikos special bond.
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
@@mirikaku5811 this was to make fans support suicide and make it look romantic., her fake seppuku show.
@ElZilchoYo17 күн бұрын
@@mirikaku5811 That makes more sense in the show sure, but the book spends far more time on their Romance and Yabu is more complex too.
@Javelin_catАй бұрын
Madame knows a lot about suffering. To ask for help from a man who for the first time almost held a sword in his hands, we saw how he, having met Yabushige on the shore, held it
@kirishima2370Ай бұрын
She didn't ask him, he was the only one willing to do it because he couldn't watch her suffer.
@DanBeech-ht7sw29 күн бұрын
He's held swords before, he's an English mariner, of course he can use a sword. He just doesn't know the Japanese style of fighting. But he can carry out a slashing blow easily.
@roxannedrummond167728 күн бұрын
i cried like a baby the first time i saw this.
@mypov9790Ай бұрын
Japanese honor and loyalty back then is almost absolute! You earned our respect our japanese brothers!
@Pdmc-vu5gj29 күн бұрын
Creepy
@richardshiflett518128 күн бұрын
She's a woman
@dominusdone502327 күн бұрын
But japanese were also rapist and murderer s so no real honor
@jonbaxter225429 күн бұрын
Strangely romantic which is wild
@mirikaku581125 күн бұрын
It is the most romantic scene in all of there scenes. Breathtakingly beautiful unconditional love
@cs925129 күн бұрын
広松の切腹があったからこそ、このシーンの緊張感が跳ね上がった
@user-si6fd6lw6e29 күн бұрын
What many Japanese worry about is whether this drama will reinforce misunderstandings and prejudices. So, we comment on parts of fiction that are significantly different from reality. It would be fine if all the content of the drama were fiction, but since this era, the amount of records has increased rapidly and the facts are becoming more detailed. On the other hand, Japanese cannot help but feel uncomfortable with dramas based on original works that contain a lot of fiction and a little historical fact. William Adams, who was the model for John Blackthorne, is a real person, but after the historic battle (Battle of Sekigahara) in 1600, he was favored by Ieyasu (Toranaga) and became a hatamoto(direct vassal of shogun). It's not like he was active before that battle. I would like to clearly recognize that fact. It may be unavoidable to have flashy or cruel directions for entertainment, but Hosokawa Gracia, who was the model for Toda Mariko, did not commit suicide to protect her faith, but instead had her family vassal kill her. Therefore, she remains the tragic heroine of the Sengoku period. In this drama, Mariko says "suicide,'' and then she says "kaishaku,'' so even though she asks for "kaishaku'' as punishment for breaking her faith, this is out of Japanese common sense. In other words, Japanese think that such "suicide'' is "actually seppuku,'' and are confused by this strangeness. I understand that it was difficult, but I wish they had expressed "kaishaku'' correctly, just like "seppuku.'' 多くの日本人が心配するのは、このドラマで逆に誤解や偏見が助長されないかということです。だから、事実と大きく異なったフィクションの部分に対し、コメントするのです。ドラマ内容全てがフィクションであったら良いのですが、この時代から、記録の量がぐっと増えてきて事実が詳しくわかってきます。これに反し、多くのフィクションと少ない史実の混じった原作のドラマに、日本人は違和感を覚えざるを得ないのです。ジョン・ブラックソーンのモデルとなったウィリアム・アダムズは実在の人物ですが、1600年の歴史的な戦い(関ヶ原の戦い)の後、家康(虎長)の気に入られ、旗本になっていますから、その戦いの前から活動をしたわけではありません。その事実ははっきりと認識して欲しいのです。娯楽作品にするには派手だったり残虐だったりする演出も仕方ないかもしれませんが、戸田鞠子のモデルとなった細川ガラシャは、信仰を守って自殺せず、家来に自身を殺させているため、戦国時代の悲劇のヒロインであることに変わりはありません。このドラマ内で鞠子は「自害」と言ってから、続いて「介錯」と言っているため、信仰を破った罰として「介錯」を頼んでも、これは日本人の常識から外れます。つまり、その「自害」は「実質上の切腹」になると日本人は考え、その奇妙さに戸惑うのです。難しかったことはわかりますが、「切腹」と同様に「介錯」も正しく表現して欲しかったと思います。
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
they just want to make some dollars from pleasing there western viewer's.
@daurenussenov33628 күн бұрын
I"ve never read 1000 pages in 2 days before this book. Thanks Mr. Clavel. And this is the best movie based on the book.
@I_SuperHiro_I26 күн бұрын
Is the book really that good?
@hirameberhardt864324 күн бұрын
Once❤ you start reading SHOGUN, you can't put it down@I_SuperHiro_I
@tindikukka20 күн бұрын
@@I_SuperHiro_IBooks are always better than filmations.
@theprocrastinator1219 күн бұрын
@@I_SuperHiro_I yes its absolutely amazing, but very long so be prepared for a long read, if you decide to read it.
@I_SuperHiro_I19 күн бұрын
@@theprocrastinator12 I’m in hotels 4 nights a week, so I’ll have plenty of time. I just ordered a copy :)
@MrKakashi3203019 күн бұрын
Jesus Crist mate ... I almost had an heart attack in This scene 😂
@eodyn7Ай бұрын
I'm just here to laugh all the "weebs" in the comment section like "Ackchyually..."
@austin1806Ай бұрын
I honestly can’t tell if it’s more white kids or actual Japanese people that are offended 😂
@goldenretrieversarethebest811928 күн бұрын
same lmao
@asimhussain871626 күн бұрын
Uh the people who ACKCHUALLY understand Japanese culture aren't weebs, they're just educated. The weebs are the ones who watch anime and think they know about samurais lol.
@JGrimm5222 күн бұрын
The fuck are you even talking about?
@AlfredussАй бұрын
I will read the book after the show is over. Will love to know more details of the story.
@kirishima2370Ай бұрын
The book tells the story much more from Blackthorne's perspective (and that of the Portuguese), it also spends a lot more time on the love story
@xarius110 күн бұрын
Everyone is wrong. Mariko looks at John not out of relief or some deep realization that he now understands. But out of deep regret and sadness that this man that she loves was the last person she wanted to put through this. She knows it would cause him great pain. And she regrets this. But her resolve cannot be diminished and she proceeds.
@roberterlandson82346 күн бұрын
It's unlikely John would've gotten a clean cut on the first try
@tsurutajumbo2 күн бұрын
It can be both
@harunaartstudio423324 күн бұрын
This is not actually seppuku scene. Seppuku, 切腹, cut the belly, is the manner of samurai. For ladies of samurai family often committed suicide but not cut belly but stab their chest or cut their neck. Mariko tried to stab her chest.
@Viktorreznov194219 күн бұрын
Seppuku is either way
@Bon-Gi29 күн бұрын
What song is in the background? Soo good.
@ivankok472425 күн бұрын
Sounds like "The Pull of Death" from Shogun's soundtrack
@jeremyfusenliu38595 күн бұрын
This scene had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, it was so intense.
@PseudoNortheastIndian29 күн бұрын
Although a lady could also commit seppuku equivalent (as uncommon cases), calling this seppuku is wrong as she targets her heart. 2:21 It looks like some Japanese say that this scene is wrong as a lady is not supposed to commit seppuku, but the truth is that she is not committing seppuku in this scene. Nobody in the show called it seppuku. Just some audiences or critics wrongly call it seppuku, which is wrong.
@thespiritphoenix379828 күн бұрын
Then what is the female equivalent of Seppuku?
@naylamuslima28 күн бұрын
I believe its called "jigai". The ritual suicide from women of samurais. But normally its directed at the throat if im not mistaking
@naylamuslima28 күн бұрын
@@thespiritphoenix3798"jigai"
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
@@naylamuslima she isn't woman of a samurai but a hoe of Ajin,
@liviusss4 күн бұрын
The son watching Mariko breaks my heart... 🥺
@redsol36294 күн бұрын
If your nominated second refuses then you must endure the entire ritual of disembowelling yourself.
@goldenretrieversarethebest811928 күн бұрын
what is barney thompson doing in japan. he's supposed to be working for the peaky blinders
@ln5321Ай бұрын
He's so mumbly, I can't understand what he says after telling her that he'll do it. Sounds like "there's no place I haven't already known, [insert unintelligible gibberish here]"
@austin1806Ай бұрын
I agree, I think he says “Hell is no place I haven’t already known, let it from your mind” while trying to spare her from damnation for committing suicide without someone as her second.
@ln5321Ай бұрын
@@austin1806 That makes sense and listening again after seeing your comment, I think you're right.
@SukiOG29 күн бұрын
@@austin1806That is indeed what he says, had to put it on 0.5 at first just to understand it 😭
@patrician382129 күн бұрын
I thought I couldn’t understand because my English was not good enough ( not a native here, of course)
@ln532129 күн бұрын
@@patrician3821 I'm a native speaker and I struggled with that line. I don't know why TV and movies think having actors mumble their lines somehow makes it better nowadays.
@megsley18 күн бұрын
it'd be amazing if I could actually see what's happening without having to turn the brightness on my phone all the way up.
@spaceman9599Ай бұрын
Ah the tragic culmination 😢
@ElenaStoyanova-vw5ftКүн бұрын
As I remember not Anjin but Yabbu assists Mariko. That was on the book…imagine how Anjin without knowledge of using sword would make it…ihhh
@nguyenkhanh7759Ай бұрын
can anyone explain why yabushi helps the shinobi get in the fortress and then warn the main characters about the incoming shinobi?
@keithfilibeck2390Ай бұрын
he's playing both sides so he always comes out on top
@gregordrizzlewing7339Ай бұрын
@@keithfilibeck2390he a dead man walking from the start 😂
@VDA19Ай бұрын
Because Yabu is always playing both sides.
@wulfgarplАй бұрын
Mariko had to die in a way that moved lords to rebellion against Ishido. When he stopped seppuku, other way had to orchestrated that blamed him. For Yabu warring other is just an alibi for himself.
@SeaDemon25Ай бұрын
becouse he doesnt want to die
@rogue.red.dragon25 күн бұрын
a number of things wrong with this. Female samurai do not commit Seppuku they commit Jigai. When commiting Jigai the dagger is used to cut their throat not driver into their heart as Mariko intended. And finally since the jugglular was cut it brought about a very rapid death the act of beheading was not required so Blackthorne wouldn't have had to at as her second.
@Biefbacon24 күн бұрын
Without a second, Mariko would have committed suicide, damning her soul to hell. She needed someone else to strike the killing blow.
@alphagerudo624227 күн бұрын
John and Mariko romance 😢 later in episode anyway, he made love to her that night & will never find a woman like her again
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
they don't made love it was sex, to fulfill there lust
@Subpac_ww226 күн бұрын
Marpi Point vibes
@Ursy28 күн бұрын
Ok these clips aint the best to watch on a phone. On max brightness and i can barely see a thing
@lendial29 күн бұрын
Was John really going to go through with it?
@blackmantis313029 күн бұрын
We will never know
@alphagerudo624227 күн бұрын
Yes because he wouldn't be able to watch her suffer the blood falling everywhere & her screams.
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
there is no way he had to. because mariko would not have guts to go through it for 16 F years he know what littl p she is,
@varthelm24 күн бұрын
Yes, both out of his respect and love for her and because he knew what it would mean to take her own life as a Christian. He stepped in to have her back when no one else would and to save her from damnation. Even if he had doubt in that belief, he knew she didn't.
@Lalit02Dhanwani24 күн бұрын
@@varthelm she is fake Christian as she never considered suicide a sin as it is in bible.
@GrantH260623 күн бұрын
Nobody would cut off their lovers head if they truly loved them
@yan-ikwld149720 күн бұрын
CAN we say that it’s like Euthanasia ?
@vietcuongnguyenle853010 күн бұрын
She will do that for her culture anyway And watching your lover die in pain also is not love And don’t think about convince her stop suicide, the fact she insist to do that prove she put her country culture above everything else
@GrantH260610 күн бұрын
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 She put her countries dumbass culture above her own child and love for John which is what made her stupid imo
@hachidayoАй бұрын
This scene from the 1980 version kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNuIg6yUpr7WlJs.html
@waltlock880513 күн бұрын
I thought women went out with the sword through the throat (jigai?)
@nataliee.parker287319 күн бұрын
Wondering why she tied her knees together... any particular reason?
@user-kf2jo7cq3p18 күн бұрын
すぐ死ぬわけでは無いので、苦しんだ際に暴れて着物の裾が乱れて、足が出ないようにするためです。
@nataliee.parker287317 күн бұрын
@user-kf2jo7cq3p ahhh, that makes sense. Thank you, for letting me know.
@olafoomes29 күн бұрын
Wrong title. It should read: Mariko almost commits seppuku. In Japanese culture JB would not have been the killer.
@jacquelyn175517 күн бұрын
Damn right
@borinacalzetta139423 күн бұрын
Real Bushido
@tofton197727 күн бұрын
Yeah, for me that way Mariko carry aronde her little knife and never get to use it is more comical than tragic, it doesn't work for me!
@kreuzerlau8817Ай бұрын
This is not seppuku, seppuku is to stab the belly , not the heart.
@aid-fАй бұрын
For men it was the belly, but for women _Jigai_ could also be the throat or heart and can even be unassisted.
@benragnarsson7228Ай бұрын
Only samurai men had the seppuku. Women stabed the hearth or fall into the dagger. Jigai was not a common practice.
@rebboy17Ай бұрын
That’s why this was labeled as suicide and why ishido didn’t won’t it to happen
@mimorisenpai8540Ай бұрын
@@benragnarsson7228 don't forget tongue biting too
@coachChot8966Ай бұрын
its Sempakku
@ggosever10 күн бұрын
İs real history or fictional ?
@vietcuongnguyenle853010 күн бұрын
Half real half fictional Both The character is real and she really dead. But she dead before the anjin come to japan a little while ago
@Darklarik3Ай бұрын
That 3:06 OUUUUUFFFFFF could be felt
@docholliday454629 күн бұрын
She didnt die like thia in the book!
@blackmantis313029 күн бұрын
Neither in the show
@docholliday454629 күн бұрын
@@blackmantis3130 ishido blows a door and it flattens her!
@blackmantis313029 күн бұрын
@@docholliday4546 i know. I watched the episode
@subhanusaxena7199Ай бұрын
Dude stop posting spoilers before most have seen the episode
@NarcolypticNinjaАй бұрын
Oh no! We whom haven't probably don't even care. Like me for instance. Stop being a karen.
@rion-king28 күн бұрын
If Season 1 of this work is modeled on the eve of Sekigahara, I would like Season 2 to create ``Winter Camp'' and ``Summer Camp'' based on the ``Battle of Sekigahara'', which was an internal conflict after unification. After the novel was completed, Game of Thrones quickly developed a script and produced additional seasons. It would be a shame if Shogun ended after season 1. The story is about to get interesting.
@VolkovVelikan26 күн бұрын
There will be no second season this is based on the book and there is no second volume
@ScorpionKreitus29 күн бұрын
This is a remake from xogum movie 1980
@eumaies21 күн бұрын
both are based on the same book
@dekuuchiha999028 күн бұрын
Hodor'd instead
@lz47377 күн бұрын
I have enjoyed using Akechi to unify Japan in video games, lol
@YasonYou29 күн бұрын
She asks him to wait until she has fallen. I suspect she wanted to be unconcious before he attempts to behead her. He would have surely made a mess of it.
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
they already planned this fake suicide drama last night they were screwing.
@theconsciousobserver682926 күн бұрын
Why was he so confident that he could one shot it? Wild ass
@user-qd8bt1hl9n27 күн бұрын
女性が人前で自決する事は無い。ましてや切腹などあり得ない。
@I_SuperHiro_I26 күн бұрын
That is a cross around her neck is it not?
@anthemsofeurope240825 күн бұрын
Yes it is. She converted to christianity. Thats what I found strange in this scene, because its forbidden for christians to commit suicide
@I_SuperHiro_I25 күн бұрын
@@anthemsofeurope2408 I couldn’t think about anything else during the scene. Great writing, but uncomfortable to watch.
@fakename66588 күн бұрын
Weirdest JAV ive ever seen but i managed to bust one out anyway.
@alessiomartini449623 күн бұрын
Mariko San is about to commit seppuku, but women in medieval Japan didn't pierce their hearts, they actually slit their own throats. So at this point the fiction is inaccurate.
@Kncperseus24 күн бұрын
Just a question: here, Mariko recounts that her father was a good man who assassinated the boss of Toranaga's dead boss because the said guy was corrupt. I know the Big Boss her dad kills is based on Oda Nobunaga, the most famous Shogun to have ever lived. Question: though it is commonly believed that Nobunaga was eccentric and morally ambiguous, was he really corrupt?
@vietcuongnguyenle853010 күн бұрын
Nobunaga thoughts actually very advanced. In the perspective of japanese people, maybe he really look like a corrupted person because nobunaga action seem like having many influence of western people
@Rmn-632427 күн бұрын
Why all movies are in the dark, I hate that, I don't look
@Lalit02Dhanwani25 күн бұрын
they run out of budget for better lighting
@user-si6fd6lw6eАй бұрын
This is completely wrong. Kaishaku is something that is done in response to seppuku. Women do not and cannot commit seppuku. So if she were allowed to commit suicide like in this video, she would die with a dagger to strike her heart. If she didn't die, someone else might have stabbed her to death. Her model, Hosokawa Gracia did not commit suicide, but had her family vassal stab her with his spear and kill her.
@LordKamos777Ай бұрын
You're arguing with historical experts from Japan that were brought in for this show. One of the producers is Toranaga's actor who is ensuring it's as accurate as possible despite being dumbed down for western audiences.
@BullLREDАй бұрын
自殺はキリスト教で禁じられているため、家老の小笠原秀清(少斎)がガラシャを介錯し、遺体が残らぬように屋敷に爆薬を仕掛け火を点けて自刃した。辞世の句は「散りぬべき 時知りてこそ 世の中の 花も花なれ 人も人なれ」。 Wikipedia
@user-si6fd6lw6eАй бұрын
@@LordKamos777 様(sama) This is not something to argue. It's a common sense that all Japanese people have, except for people who aren't particularly interested in history. If anyone knows a unique example of a woman being kaishaku when she commits suicide, I would like to know more about it. There must have been many parts of the drama where even Sanada-san had to compromise.
@TheWarLizardАй бұрын
@@user-si6fd6lw6eexcept she is aiming for her heart. You see it the moment after the camera shifts when Ishido drops the permit. Nor is it valid to expect her to go out the same way as Gracia did as first and foremost - this is historical fiction. Hell Ochiba is supposed to be Chacha, who decidedly isn’t Nobunagas daughter but his sisters.
@BlackRiverStudiosАй бұрын
If you really watched the show you wouldve seen 2:45...
@sushibar77728 күн бұрын
Samurai women did not commit "seppuku", which means cutting the belly. They would stab themselves in the throat. Not sure if they used "seconds" the way that men did either. Strictly speaking, a second was not necessary if a samurai carried out seppuku properly. However, as it was very painful, and required great commitment and willpower even for a dedicated samurai, it could be difficult to properly complete the act, so the custom of using a second, who would decapitate the person committing seppuku once they had begun the process of slitting open their abdomen became customary. Once the person had started the act, honor was served, and the second could decapitate them to end the pain and ensure the end came quickly. Attempting to cut off Mariko's head from behind here might be problematic. Her hair might create issues, possibly deflecting even a sharp sword before contacting the neck bones. It is also unlikely that Blackthorn would have had the skill and technique to carry out the procedure properly, even if he had been getting a few sword lessons. This is a deviation from the novel that was unnecessary, IMHO.
@goldenretrieversarethebest811928 күн бұрын
its a tv show man. give it a break.
@yoshikomizushima1361Ай бұрын
I am Japanese, "Seppku"(切腹) is only for Samurai, I believe and NOT for women. This is very very odd to us.
I am fairly sure Japanese woman commited suicide under certain circumstances, the only debate would be the word Seppku. It's not Seppku but it is a suicide.
@DankaiNoAtoshimatsu-ke5zmАй бұрын
"Jigai" , kill oneself, was common among samurai-class ladies. They pierced their throat or heart as Mariko attempted. Otama or Gracia Hosokawa, model of Mariko did that.
@yoshikomizushima1361Ай бұрын
@@DankaiNoAtoshimatsu-ke5zmAgree! ”Jigai " (自害;自殺)might be the right word for this, I guess. Not officially "Seppuku"
@wjm8353Ай бұрын
Didn’t know Japanese can write English
@fy1105Ай бұрын
Wrong. ladies did not commit seppuku, it is only for Samurai. Samurai ladies kill themselves by the knife thrusting throat or heart. It is difficult for untrained person to cut off human head by sword. Unsightly and ugly beheading was a shame of the beheader and in this case he also had to kill himself because of this shame. So, Anjin second is impossible.
@Godzillakingofkaiju1Ай бұрын
It happened in the book.
@kevinboyle538Ай бұрын
Oh, please do be quiet.
@kingjaw5565Ай бұрын
問題ない、歴史上女性も切腹してる
@mr.spongylikeaboss4987Ай бұрын
Okay, Weeaboo
@BlackRiverStudiosАй бұрын
She wasnt commiting seppuku. The uploader doesnt know. Look at 2:45. Weeb.
@LeonNeutonАй бұрын
Nope she gets blown up!😢
@DrCruelАй бұрын
There's a little bit of Mariko on all of us.
@edzehooАй бұрын
@@DrCruel tbh, I'd like to have a bit of myself on Mariko
@DrCruelАй бұрын
@@edzehoo That's what Buntaro said.
@edzehooАй бұрын
@@DrCruel but Buntaro aint got none, cuz his Hatamoto's tappin' all of that ass. White privilege hell yeeahhhh
@dan6822Ай бұрын
You know some of us have jobs and don't stay up until 1am to watch this, but you put spoilers in the title of your video. "Don't recommend this channel"
@Viktorreznov1942Ай бұрын
I have a job and I watched it. Maybe learn how to avoid spoilers
@dan6822Ай бұрын
@Viktorreznov1942 good for you. How do you avoid spoilers when the first video on top of the screen has a spoiler in the title? Maybe learn to avoid being a dick.
@Viktorreznov1942Ай бұрын
@dan6822 First of all the title isn't entirely accurate, 2nd you can't expect anyone to stop posting spoilers, so if you don't want to see spoilers you have to avoid anything related to the show as soon as you see it, it's actually easy to just not read the title, and the easiest way altogether is to watch it as soon as it drops.
This is what she’s being wanting for the longest time and fails at it! Why the crying?
@aryabaditz309229 күн бұрын
Because not like before, now she relaise she have kid, she have jhon who cared her, even religion, n when it death so it kinda scare her,,
@marycasper370129 күн бұрын
Well last episode she mentioned how her wanting death all those years was to find a life away from the life she was living and now with John and her service to Toranaga she has found that life. Now that she is committing Sepoku she has to sacrifice the life she always wanted
@kael369129 күн бұрын
Because she found love. Right before this scene, John asks of her,”Would you then, consider, living for me.” The way she looks and breaths shows if that were a possibility, she would take it.
@ShizuokaJoe29 күн бұрын
Part of it (explained in the book) was that she had mentally made the commitment to kill herself, when suddenly Ishido arrives and pulls her back from the brink. Quite harrowing, I would imagine.
@tnsampson2Ай бұрын
oh, please.......
@ijo175929 күн бұрын
Japanese women don’t do seppuku, thus needed one to kaishyaku. 真田がついてるのに無作法なシーン
@oldsport402928 күн бұрын
What a pointless scene when literally 5min later she’s being blown up for standing in front of the door being blown up.
@rickbruner552527 күн бұрын
The fact that she knew they were going to use explosives to open the door allowed her to place herself so she would be killed. The same as if she had committed suicide. The Shinobi were tasked not with killing her but capturing her to prevent her from leaving the next morning and allowing all of the other hostages to follow. This was Toranaga's plan that would allow the Lords who might support him against Ishido to do so without killing their entire families. Hiromatsu's death was part of the plan, he killed himself knowing that was what was required to make Ishido think that Toranaga was going to submit and give Mariko the time needed to destroy Ishido.
@oceanbreeze4361Ай бұрын
This crazy nuts rituals..death and own killing.
@nulldemokratiezwei7773Ай бұрын
Very practical for the rulers, to have the subjects kill themselves when they have failed their lords... Never heard of a japanese lord who killed himself for treating his subjects poorly xD
@ZaiFuchigamiАй бұрын
@@nulldemokratiezwei7773 Its not only about that. It's about honor and sacrifice.
@nulldemokratiezwei7773Ай бұрын
@@ZaiFuchigami Well, how often do the rulers sacrifice themselves, when they have mistreated the people? And where is the honor in exploitation?
@Pdmc-vu5gj29 күн бұрын
@@ZaiFuchigamiHumans are nuts
@dominusdone502327 күн бұрын
@@ZaiFuchigamiwhat is ‘honor and sacrafice’ why do these ‘lord’ gets it but not the peasants when they are humans aswell. Honor and sacrafice is a lie considering the Japanese raped hundreds of thousands of women
@billdanosky29 күн бұрын
What a let down. I wish that interruption came 5 minutes later.
@aliwalil4160Ай бұрын
The movie makers have not even read the book.
@Chris-gm4hkАй бұрын
Seppuku soul mates. Completely ridiculous.
@KoflerDavidАй бұрын
There have been many cases where a close friend was the kanshakunin. Usually one chooses somebody that knows how to use a sword well. John would have butchered it (heh) and that would have caused the story to spread like wildfire, which would aid Toranaga's cause.
@usa792210 күн бұрын
Lololol
@user-si7so1kb5j27 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous. Women cannot commit seppuku. No one can second her. Ep.8 was so good. But i was disappointed in ep.9.
@kira68200Ай бұрын
really cool scene, but a women commiting ritual suicide in medieval japan would have sliced he jugular, here she was ogoing to open her belly
@ajbangmeАй бұрын
Or the woman stabs their self in the heart, which she was aiming for. Shut up lol that’s why she asked to be seconded also. She was taking off her necklace and tying her knees together
@sciencetruth7756Ай бұрын
If you watch she was going to stab herself in the heart
nope she was not going to do seppuku but jigai. She was going to stab her heart. But as a female warrior herself she asked someone to second her.
@kira68200Ай бұрын
@@kakkoishonen ho okay, thank you
@kristinesharp628612 күн бұрын
It is stupid. .
@darkstar575627 күн бұрын
도대체…. 이해가 않됨…. 왜 자꾸 죽을려고 하냐….
@micrhymer4062Ай бұрын
You don't have to watch
@deejin25Ай бұрын
Best comment!
@goldenretrieversarethebest811928 күн бұрын
thank you lol. too many people crying in the comments
@user-is2uy7tc7xАй бұрын
フジヤマ、ゲイシャ、ハラキリは日本文化です🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🙏🙏🙏
@ajbangmeАй бұрын
Japans culture is just something I’ll never try to understand or agree with. Life was nothing to them. They treated people like life points in a mario game because they had trust issues. Really shows how insecure they were that they had to play these toxic political games. I guess you could say tho that ochibas father was a mad king tho. In every aspect.
@wymg4480Ай бұрын
You mean olden Japan. You're not gonna see this shit nowadays. And all culture back in those days treat life like nothing. You killed and get brutalized by the smallest shit and its common. Ever watched vikings? Their culture makes japans look peaceful as hell.
@ajbangmeАй бұрын
@@wymg4480 I mean you’re right but that doesn’t refute my opinion. IMO feudal Japan is something incomparable. I’m sure every culture has had their due diligence in treating life like shit. Comparing culture doesn’t mean you over look something else and say “it makes Japan seems peaceful” it is still something beyond my my imagination. So MY opinion still stands. 🤷🏽
@wymg4480Ай бұрын
@@ajbangme nah i aint overlooking them. each culture back in the day has crazy shit in their own right. japan's craziness is based off death being an honor to them. they rather die than live on in certain scenarios. meanwhile in vikings, they fight just to die because they believe only in combat could they reach valhalla. both sides disregard life in separate ways. its normal for us to not understand. afterall we grew up in a completely different time period and environment.
@xiphos14Ай бұрын
@@wymg4480 I am thinking about the reason for all this behaviour and why our view today is different. I guess it's the absence of death in our daily lifes, because of the easier conditions of life sustenance. In that time death was everywhere. Even bathing to long outside in cold water combined with other factors like malnutrition or exhaustion could bring you a cold that could put you to death. So maybe it's the wish to give your own inevitable death, what is a kind of daily affair, at least a kind of honorable status.
@KoflerDavidАй бұрын
@@xiphos14it also helps to keep in mind that this culture was something the warrior elite cultivated. It's not surprising to see copious amounts of death in this story because this is a power struggle at the highest level as the various sides try to prevail. They had to compete with each other and also with other power brokers in Japanese society like the Emperor and the Buddhist temples. This matter high internal cohesion necessary. It helps that Japan is in a very secluded position, which made sudden changes of their culture less likely than in other places in the world.
@stonethrower606529 күн бұрын
In the US we have hotlines to call for this problem.