7:47 I don't entirely agree. It's not that our generation "can't handle it", its just not useful. It only gives Marines another thing to hate about the Marine Corps. If they can make it more desirable to stick around/reenlist and provide a more efficient learning environment, I 100% support the change.

Much different experience than when I went through in January 2007. The instructors we had were OIF vets fresh off Baghdad and weren’t playing. Hikes to the range were ruck runs. Buddy team rushes until your cammie trousers had holes in them, no pads of any type were issued back then. Arty sims being thrown in your face. We had old LBVs and banded kevlar helmets and many of us had the old M16A2 rifles with the new ACOG. I watched an instructor slam a boot’s head into the ground at a range for veering into friendly line of fire during a live fire buddy rush (much deserved though). We learned 1 job, most became 0311s. I became a 0331 and loved machine guns. This new Marine Corps infantry training looks to be substantially improved. That way if a mortorman or machine gunner gets killed, another Marines can pick up the weapon system and use it. I’m probably too old to re-enlist as a reservist but I’m going to give it a shot.

Just went through IMC. Definitely had a bigger emphasis on thinking tactically, swimming, and an overall bigger importance on knowing your job and why you’re doing what you’re doing. Obviously you’re still a marine and you do what you’re told. But if you’re the one calling the shots, they make sure you can explain why you’re doing what you’re doing.

Just went through IMC and I have to say it’s a pretty good course, lots of swimming, pt and learning. Also don’t treat you like garbage which makes things absurd a lot better in terms of knowledge

Daddy trell dropping videos back to back

I went through ITB in the Iraq generation as a standard 0311, and we did a shit ton of morning PT. Not sure where you guys went to ITB, but I was at Geiger. Also, when I was in, we got the shit hazed out of us. Like extreme hazing by the instructors. But in the end, it was extremely beneficial. Nothing subconsciously ingrains the lesson not expose yourself to observation like a swift kick to your sides. Sometimes you can't train the conscious mind, you have to train the reflexive nervous system, especially when responding to fire. We never swam though, except for the guys volunteering to do Recon assessment. I will say this, they did teach us the 'why' of why things were done in the way that they were done, but you had to pay attention to not miss it. They didn't really focus on it, not how they are planning to with the new generation. Most students don't care or pay attention to the explained details. I was the exception. I love understanding the whys and strategy behind shit, so I absorbed all the strategic knowledge they offered. Also, tactical decision making was taught in ITB, and especially in the Fleet, but it was considered secondary to making sure you learn the basic shit you needed to learn. Glad they're stepping that up. I'm kind of jealous, tbh. From what I hear, they're trying to turn the Infantry into a kind of lighter weight special ops type unit, working independently on their own for long periods of time, which is all pretty cool. As an 0311, you do learn a lot of cool skills in the MEU, but it looks like they are trying to turn the entire Infantry into a more advanced MEU. I wish we got all this training in our time.

I’m shipping as a back up June 1st hopefully everything goes well.infantry ofc🥴 Update- waiting on my shuttle bus nervous asf.

So 13 weeks of Basic, 14 weeks of infantry training? Damn!! Gonna be hard when I join but don’t want it any other way!!

The IMC is currently is in its pilot phase, being 14 weeks long. The final version will be extended to 18 weeks after everything is ironed out.

1959-1960 My boot camp was 2 weeks processing 16 weeks followed 2 or 3 months of ITR then to regiment. The WW-II and Korean vets cross train all of us to do all jobs beside your MOS and emphasizing leadership on all levels including a privet who may find himself becoming the company commander during heavy fighting. It happen during those two wars and it looks like its going back to that concept.

congrats on 20k man

Hey man these videos are very helpful

Man I’ve been here since 8k Sub’s, Trell the Realist 💯

Great video Evan

Trell funny ashit “ if we fail we know we going to get fuck up “ 😂😂😂

I’m definitely glad I went through IMC I had some of the instructors in this video they were some badass dudes. The platoon commander and platoon sgt were scout snipers. Alpha Co 2nd Plt

Future operations in the Pacific are going to require line companies and Tier 2 units to co-op effectively and in some cases work interchangeably. Look at how infantry is riding in zodiacs now and operating with ODA teams when conducting littoral regiment exercises. These guys need to be ready to roll with Tier 2 guys right out of IMC, hence the new IPAT. Trell, I got out in 2011, how receptive do you think the current FMF is going to be to this new infantry?

I disagree with Trell's version of the " ideal " Marine, a Marine can be a respectful man and still be a badass killer. He says that " you wont be able to call people bitch and you'll hear more of brother and teammate. " What is exactly bad with that? the Marines I respected most were those that conducted themselves live grown adults, not high school kids or college frats boys. Being an ass and totally fucking up new Marines in your unit doesn't make you or them a better Marine, it is detrimental to unit cohesion and causes problems in the unit. So instead of the barracks being an out of control frat house they will be more like a building full of respectful Marines, I cant wait! sounds like we will have less hazing BS and more getting along as a unit and working together.

I see it as a advantage to have the ability to be more flexible in combat , if training can provide that , the better the Marine will be in that situation.

Got out of ITB a few months ago, new IMC got bumped up to 18 weeks. They're also doing a pistol qual at the entry level

Glad all of this is going down as I am now going in here coming next month. 😎👍

Thank you 🙏❤️

The adult learning model can lead down a very watered down pathway. Looks very good on paper.

I thought your comments about the newer generation not being able to handle the toxicity and roughness of the Marine Corps were off base completely. Having been apart of an infantry unit that has both the old ITB and new IMC guys. I can tell you that the new IMC guys are built different. They all knew how to make their own ghillie, were proficient with their weapons and other sections weapons, and were definitely a little bit more chill than the older Marines who were nearing the end of their contract. I had also spent a lot of time attached to a Recon unit and they were significantly more chill and in line with what was said about the new corps. They just treated their guys like humans and like adults. If you messed up, believe me, you paid for it. But you didn't get berated and swore at endlessly. It was just an understanding. Cool, you messed up and had to get hazed a little? You good to continue work? Good to go. No bitching or whining, and overall the morale was significantly better in that type of environment versus the typical Infantry unit.

Question Trell, are you only allowed to use military-issued gear in Infantry training?

Going through the new course right now !

ITB was 12 weeks when I was in. Spent Oct-Dec 1996 at Camp Geiger before joining the fleet.

Currently at ITB, only have 2 weeks left until we get our leave and find out our duty stations. Semper Fi!

So as one of the people that you said "had their hands held for their entire life" I agree that a lot of people my age have had their hands held a lot but I'm just saying that not everyone in the new generation of Marines is like that. I move away from home at 17 and am thinking of joining the Marines and I know for a fact that there are more men and women my age that have experienced life without their parents at all so that statement wasn't very accurate if you meant everyone from the new gen of Marines has had their hands held their entire life, a good number have but a good number haven't

For the old guys my age, when did SOI or ITS as it was for me got to 8 weeks? If my memory is correct it was 12 weeks of ITS (Infantry training school). Ands it was 6 months of training before you got to your unit. Also, when we got to our units we cross trained and learned all the jobs/position in a fireteam and squad. I’ll never forget what my first platoon lieutenant said to my platoon; “If I and the platoon SGT get killed on our mission, which one of you are going to take over my job”! He also told us about that situation happening in Vietnam and how a Corporal led a platoon to not only complete the mission, but got them back to camp. On a side note, when the heck they go from sit ups to crunchers? It was 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes for a perfect 100 score on the sit-ups.

I have a question: Did you do mcmap? (Infantry)

Hey typing this January of 2022,does anyone know if I sign an infantry contract now,will it be the cross trained infantry?so to clarify I mean will it not be specialized but instead be each individual is trained in all the 03xx roles? anyone have updated info on their personal experience in infantry?

Question even tho all infantry marines we learn a bit of all infantry mos will then still be assigned to a certain infantry mos

If everyone is out learning new grunt stuff who is doing the "field days' and painting the rocks in the Company area?

Is this good or bad?

That’s not bad haha I did 22 weeks at benning for Army infantry that’s pretty much 6 months.

About to leave this month. Was wanting to go infantry, but decided to take your advice considering I’m a father. Either going MT or looking at Aviation MOS’s which would you choose considering your experience?

This is a drastic change from when I went through AIT in '92.

What do you mean that small unit leadership sounds like the Army? I thought that was always what set us apart from everyone, the fact that Cpl’s can make decisions that other E-4’s and E-5’s from other services couldn’t make.

If you joined after 2001, you are part of the new Corps lmao

make sure you know how to swim beforehand because you are just gonna keep going to the pool until you get wsi certified. Also make sure you actually study the notes you take constantly, they throw alot of knowledge at you.

What’s up man I’m leaving for boot camp in 9 days I enlisted for infantry open contact meps screwed up one of my vision tests but I will do it again at boot camp get it fixed thanks for the video man

Has anyone heard if this is currently being implemented at North Carolina’s ITB too?

So I’m making a lateral move to 0331. Am I going to do the full 14 weeks? Or am I just going to do ITB and basic machine gunners school?

Can you please do a video what happens after soi school

When are these changes happening

New environment? Who knew on 9-10-01 what the battlefield would look like a week later?

Their only doing 2 on the east coast this year. They just started the first group the second group will be around September all this is rolling out full time next year

I’m currently in IMC for the East Coast and currently from what I hear about legacy the training is so much better and you get treated better than legacy in IMC

if the new generation wants to join I think it would be because of how marines are thought to be badasses...

Are they still going to have specific roles like motor man, rileman, and shit?

Sup Trell, I’m shipping June 7th to bootcamp. I’ve been watch you ever since I enlisted which was June 28 of last year. Thank you for your service, now it is my turn.

Is electric maintenence a good mos?

So, it sounds like the Marine Corps is going back to the what the Marine Corps of the 1980’s! Yes I was an 0311, and during my tour I competed against Army Rangers in a tactical course , I spent six weeks in Coronado, CA being trained in a lot of water and amphibious tactics from Seals and Recon Marines, trained with Indonesian Gurkhas,as well many foreign forces from Southeast Asia. Completed my 30 day desert training in 29 Palms, 30 day Winter training in Bridgeport, Ca, months of jungle training in Okinawa, Japan and all throughout Southeast Asia. A lot of cross training in ground air support and combat engineer training. I qualified and held every weapon and position as an 0311 when I was in. I say all this, NOT to toot my own horn, but to show that it looks like the Marine Corps is going back to providing more brad base training like I had. But, I am only a sample size of one as they say.

The army upgraded also

Shipping June 7th can’t wait

Bro is INA328 still working for foreigners to join marine？

Off topic question, when does your contract time start? Does it start at boot camp or after?

I agree with around 2:20 and 3:30 the Marine Corps is late with being a jack of a trades grunt. In the Army Infantry we were already like that, so it definitely looks like the Marine Corps is implementing how the Army does things.

Sounds like they are transforming into the Army....he said it..not me 😂

Marine here: let the great Chesty Puller address this:” Old Breed; New Breed; I don’t care as long as it’s the Marine Breed.”…

Your instructors fight you in the marines?

I go to basic in August, i'm kinda nervious

Are you leaving or renlisting ??

Watching this makes me miss the Corps

not gonna lie, watching how these new infantry are trained makes me jealous. went through infantry school as an 0311 in 2007, i always found it strange that we were split up into MOS and never learned ANYTHING about other 03xx weapons. 0311 just did rifleman stuff and that was it, if you were lucky and had a good company then weapons platoon would kick some classes on how to drop a mortar or how to work a 240 / mk19 or an assaultment actually do assaultment stuff

In theory sounds good but what you’re missing with this course is the ability to master one part of the MOS and becoming a subject matter expert in those tasks. I started out as a machine gunner and mastered that and then we’re taught other MOS’s in order to employ other tactics and better understand the battle space and what I can offer as an infantryman and more importantly as a machine gunner bc I understand mortars, rifleman, demo, snipers, and basic war fighter tasks. What they’re doing now is essentially making off brand rangers with no selection or mastery of the war fighter skills to make you a better operator. Something I see in army special operations is they master one part of their job and are pulling away from this “jack of all trades” mentality bc you’re a master of none. Even the basic army infantry is starting to pull away from this model of learn everything. What we do in army SOF is pretty much what I did in the fleet which is master you specific job and cross train on everyone else’s job. Which I think would fit the corps much better and allow them to be more elite. And throwing in a selection much like how RASP is ran would also help with the quality control of the war fighter but that’s just one old devils opinion

Several years back the push was for the "strategic corporal" building leadership downline

We Start The 2nd Cycle on Tuesday

nice

Looks like my bo2 dreams are finally coming true lol

The mission of the Corps is changing. More flexible.

The new training sounds very similar to Australian Infantry training

I missed the cut off date to join the corps,but I'm not to late for the army,so I'm gonna join the army,put in my 4 years and decide if I wanna stay in the army or switch over to marine corps and claim both tittles

I was about ready to get cussed tf out but now knowing we gonna be babynized... man I wish I joined a little sooner. Wanted to come up the “MARINE WAY”. 😂😭

Marine MP is a big consideration for me but I don’t know if it will be around in 2022.

My experience is way different

I was in 2012-16 so not that long ago but long enough. I was an E-5 when i was getting out and saw a lot of value in chewing my juniors out and fuckin them up cause thats how my seniors brought me up. I honestly looking back don't think it made us actually better at being Marines so idk I guess we'll see how this being nice to dudes shit works haha

My son is currently in ITB he says BootCamp was a walk in the park compared. You are right about your Gen-Z assessment they complain way more, the cussing and rowdy behavior is still on.

I’m going through this course rite now

I’m in it right now, HMU with any questions you have!

Saw myself about 3 times

i’m all for a longer, more in depth soi, but not so much putting an end to mos’. countless militaries throughout history failed because their men were decent at everything, rather than excellent at one individual task. removing mos’ will do nothing but make the corps a less efficient fighting force. it’ll completely remove the entire teamwork aspect of it. teaching marines how to operate other mos’ equipment (ie: a rifleman being taught the ins and outs of a machinegun, mortar, mk19, etc. instead of just his rifle) is a really good idea, though. i just hope they keep the mos’, so marines can be excellent at something, instead of mediocre at everything. same thing with the “change in tone,” i guess. if you get offended by cussing, don’t join the fucking marines lmao. other than that, though, this is a really great change!

I ship June 7th

I’m at MOS school for Arty at fort sill and my buddys at ITB they legit go on some deathly hikes and like 15 k runs with full gear fuck that 🤣🤣

I like where half of this is going. I hate the other half where there pussifying the military branches instead of toughening up these new coming birth cavities

I think anybody going to be in a combat zone should have a year of training,

I’m currently in Imc and our instructor teaches and fucks us up at the same time. It’s a learning environment but also pretty hard in terms of knowledge. They want you to think. I’m not capable of that. That’s why I got dropped from 2-tact to 3-tact cause I’m retarded. And might even get reclassed. It’s still physically demanding. Probably more cause we do the capstone at week 14 which is the crucible on steroids.

learn infantry now so then when you go to the fleet u pt there. i got the very first batch of boots that went to imc and their response is that they dont remember... yes they get taught a lot of shit but when you put them through pt they didnt retain jack shit so now you have to figure out wtf they know so you can go through the drills of panic mode knowledge retention.....and they cant even do 35 push ups..... wtf?

I hope they don’t change the cursing talk, the new generation needs that wake up call and realize their hand isn’t gonna be held anymore

Can you talk about MCMAP

Will this extended infantry training make enlistment contracts longer than 4yrs?

Do you think we will see combat within the next 5 years?

I dunno...my ssgt and gunny was still calling people bags of bitches during pt when I was poolee. I dont think usmc will stop that, its fundamental to their identity

The professionalism is the same , guns are the same , same shooting and war táctics , same tanks, same intitutions , same logístic , only less louder and more Technology like drones , ummanned vehicules , more computer etc ... Some people Will find something to complain and become An anti army anti marine Etc... This is changing because people that use media to make videos complains for everything weak mindset... In the pass marine , army etc all changed Wepaons ,training táctics etc.

React to the us army ad

Many in the family were Marines. They were all combat Marines. All of them claim the same thing. No matter how hard they thought the were, they found out how wrong that really was. They all claimed that it was that training that made them hard and directly responsible for making it home. So that was a big lead up to a small question. By removing the or some of the brutal nature of Marine training is that going to remove some of the badass that is the United States Marine? I don't ask as a raw raw question. I ask because I want every Marine to get to come home. Yes I do realize that is probably an impossible idea yet it is not an untrue desire. So again will the new style of training remove the fire that makes a Marine who he is? It's an honest question so there is no need for shitty responses

i wish I could enlist now but you know the us ain't about shipping out 15-year-olds

I’d honestly rather have them talk to me as a grown man & cuss me out, that encouragement to not mess up instead of giving chances, chances= more & more potential Mistakes.. I don’t agree with them being “easier”

Friend, I'm mainly interested in one topic-Getting out. How does the fellow who has made the worst mistake of his life and feels like that he's in some "Twilight Zone" version of Hell, get out as FAST AS POSSIBLE!?! (I loathed people who use to say, "I'd leave tomorrow-IF I could get a good discharge…" Moron, IF you really want to get out as bad as you want that next breath of air-you DON'T CARE what kind of Discharge you get-not even a LITTLE.) Second, what ingenious methods have you seen used to get out!?!