The scary thing for me with Sky Garden is the idea that they might pretend like the Tour version was always the layout and we get the absolutely gutted knock off for every game in the future if it ever appears again. I REALLY hope they someday actually make a true worthy Sky Garden remake… But anyways I do hope Banshee Boardwalk gets an awesome remake someday too, because there's actually some REALLY cool custom tracks that show the potential of a modern Banshee Boardwalk.
@HDRookie11 ай бұрын
The MKDS remake of Sky Garden was amazing. Worst case scenario we'll always have that.
@user-nx7fr3qp3v4 ай бұрын
I hate all the GBA tracks in Tour and Deluxe. I Love Every GBA Track in all the Previous Games.
@oswaldoorellana5983 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing is that Banshee Boardwalk was datamined around 2020 but it never got fully developed (with its ID Gap being 4 at its peak), it could've been in tour
@oswaldoorellana5983 Жыл бұрын
Also the end of that ID gap coincides with the Halloween Tour of that year so, it was definetly Banshee and not Bowser's Castle
@cohenthepeter7237 Жыл бұрын
4:51 that physically hurt to watch
@KingOshawott Жыл бұрын
(Un)fun fact, Banshee Boardwalk was actually seemingly planned for tour at some point in 2020, but was ultimately scrapped by october, its had 0 traces since
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Absolutely tragic
@JRS06 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see it return, but it doesn't need an overhaul that adds too much to the background. It would ruin the aesthetic.
@CaptainRillaboom3 ай бұрын
At least, we’re sure it’s not getting the Cloudtop Cruise Jr. treatment.
@crispycol4904 Жыл бұрын
It feels like they could do a lot of fun stuff with Banshee Boardwalk. It could dip into the water at some sections, the building could be more of a ruins or something (I always thought the design of the building was weird) and with some good lighting it could look eerily beautiful
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Totally with you
@courage1363 Жыл бұрын
A little update that GBA Peach Circuit is no longer dormant because it was officially been revealed in Mario Kart Tours Princess Tour and also GBA Luigi Circuit MIGHT get in Tour in the upcoming Mario Vs Luigi 2023 Tour soon since people are speculating that N64's Mario Raceway is coming.
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Banshee Boardwalk 🙏
@dcfbhu1047 Жыл бұрын
At least Banshee Boardwalk can be played online in MK64 with the Nintendo Switch Online expansion pack
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
True!
@ratabreak3902 Жыл бұрын
Banshee Boardwalk and Sky Garden are my favourite retro tracks in MKDS
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
They're my top 2 also. Based 👍
@ValiTheSaltMan Жыл бұрын
I like the N64 courses in DS waaay more than the originals.
@ratabreak3902 Жыл бұрын
@@ValiTheSaltMan same
@ValiTheSaltMan Жыл бұрын
@@ratabreak3902 i Also like what they did to the GBA and SNES tracks, the problem is the GCN tracks. I actually prefer DS’s retros to Wii’s retros, Wii genuinely ruined the GBA tracks, DS just made the GCN tracks SLIGHTLY worse
@ratabreak3902 Жыл бұрын
@@ValiTheSaltMan I also like what they did with SNES tracks in DS despite I believe it'd be a better option to have remade Choco Island 2 on MKWii MK7 or MK8 cus of the trick system so the track wouldn't be too annoying same as GBA Bowser's Castle 2 However I think GBA track selection until Mario Kart 8 DLC2 Wii U was pretty lame I mean they only remade 8 tracks of 20 (unlike N64 which got 15/16 GCN 12/10 and DS 11/16) and all of them were Circuits or Bowser Castles being Shy Guy Beach and Sky Garden the only exceptions I'm really glad Nintendo noticed back in 2015 how great could GBA remade tracks be creating Cheese Land and Ribbon Road then in Mario Kart Tour they did an excellent job with non remade tracks like Cheep Cheep Island Sunset Wilds Bowser's Castle 4 Snow Land Boo Lake Yoshi Desert and Riverside Park
@DrasticFox2004 Жыл бұрын
I just want *Toad’s Factory, Wario Colosseum, & DK Mountain for this one 😢*
@cjtheracer0113 Жыл бұрын
All I want for Christmas is Wii Rainbow Road to be in 8 DX.
@user-nx7fr3qp3v4 ай бұрын
Not Wii Rainbow Road. GCN Rainbow Road.
@CaptainRillaboom17 күн бұрын
@@user-nx7fr3qp3vToo bad
@CaptainRillaboom17 күн бұрын
@@cjtheracer0113Wish granted
@cjtheracer011317 күн бұрын
@@CaptainRillaboom And it's an amazing remake! Kinda wish for no guardrails and remove the anti gravity but other then that it's so GOOD!
@ade1174 Жыл бұрын
Great history lesson. I forgot how limited Mario Kart DS's online was. I definitely want to see GBA Luigi Circuit, GCN Luigi Circuit, Frappe Snowland, and Banshee Boardwalk return in the future.
@lem2tlifenine Жыл бұрын
I really hope N64 Banshee Boardwalk returns to Mario Kart Tour this year in the Halloween tour
@bingobo2551 Жыл бұрын
6:49 my guy that was a nice bunny hop you pulled over there
@hiddelsubbeldees3014 Жыл бұрын
I'd argue Mushroom Bridge has a worse fate than Banshee Boardwalk, as at least that one can be played online in the N64 expansion pack, same with the other 4 retro courses not playable in MKDS as they're SNES and GBA tracks, but due to there not being one for Gamecube, its only online availability is trapped in a mobile game. And to make matters worse, Moonview Highway may have killed its chances of ever getting this opportunity to be playable online in a proper mainline game unless they ever bring the Gamecube to Nintendo switch online List of the 6 tracks from the 8 (plus 8 deluxe) mainline games that have never been playable online in a mainline game (the other 5 will get their opportunity if they ever make another mario kart or another BCP, but Mushroom Bridge remains a true anomaly in the mario kart series) GCN Mushroom Bridge GCN Mushroom City GCN Wario Colosseum GCN Bowser's Castle GCN Rainbow Road DS Bowser Castle
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
I understand the argument. But being honest, the online for NSO is so laggy / bad that it feels hard for me to count it. Tour's online is way better. With that being said, considering you have to wait for it to be in a current Tour to play it.... not ideal. It's definitely in a unique spot, I'll give you that.
@angus80w Жыл бұрын
GBA Luigi Circuit is getting added to the next Tour alongside Waluigi Stadium and Mario Raceway. Luigi Circuit does look really really good.
@deadmeme739 Жыл бұрын
Banshee Boardwalk is my favorite N64 Course in the series. I hope it's in the next console MK because we haven't seen it in forever (Outside a small reference at Super Nintendo World)
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
What was the Super Nintendo World reference? Curious now
@deadmeme739 Жыл бұрын
@@HDRookie There was a book under a screen of King Boo that said something like "The haunting at Banshee Boardwalk". It was the only course not from 8 to be referenced if I remember correctly.
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
@@deadmeme739 That's awesome 🙂
@MPedro1024 Жыл бұрын
@@deadmeme739 i'm reaching here, but if all the other courses were 8 references, could banshee boardwalk of all tracks be the one to put the prefix leak to rest?
@deadmeme739 Жыл бұрын
@@MPedro1024 The theme park was planned around the time of the original 8(maybe even before it). It seem very unlikely it was made to reference the BCP.
@kingstonwvnerfer2112 ай бұрын
FINALLY, my favorite Mariokart track (banshee boardwalk) of all time is not hated by somebody.
@nerdlywacko Жыл бұрын
based Banshee Boardwalk enjoyer
@hagermaker47782 ай бұрын
mushroom bridge aged well
@VGF80 Жыл бұрын
Not only is Mario ds' online limited but to add insult to injury you can't just use any wifi router you can find. Due to this game using outdated wifi architecture, You have to use a router that supports non-dsi enhanced games (802.11b for something like that) and it cannot be WPA nor WPA 2 (has to be WEP or Open). While you could use a mobile hotspot, for some reason my 3ds via the ds connection settings (on my copy of Mario kart ds) refuses to connect to my mobile hotspot despite it being recognized as an open viable hotspot. It appears that my only option now is to make my router open, but I can't when I'm still living with family members and I can't seem to know how to make a guest router. My best opportunity to play this game online was at a hotel in Vietnam, it had an open router that I could use to play the game online, and it was a special moment that I will never forget.
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I used to be able to play online but it was short lived. Definitely a little disappointing but I guess it was a learning experience for Nintendo
@VGF80 Жыл бұрын
spelling correction: 802.11b *or* something like that
@JRS06 Жыл бұрын
Banshee Boardwalk has always been my favourite Mario Kart DS retro; I'd love it in Tour so long as it kept it's void and empty background for the sppoky effect. Alongside that, there are many retros that ought to return, including Peach Circuit, GBA Luigi Circuit, GCN Luigi Circuit, Peach Beach, N64 Sherbet Land, Delfino Square, Desert Hills and DK's Jungle Parkway.
@rebirthphoenix5646 Жыл бұрын
“Like this is a well above average track” *immediately falls off* That made me laugh way harder than it needed to same with getting pushed off in Choco Mountain. Honestly I think if they were to bring back another N64 track if given the chance I feel like it could be Frappe Snowland.
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Hey now, not gonna blame the course for my shortcomings now 😅
@rebirthphoenix5646 Жыл бұрын
@@HDRookie You’re good I had a good laugh on a rather rough day so that’s all that mattered. Tbh Banshee Boardwalk really does need another remake though I always just saw it as a 3D Ghost Valley/Boo Lake/Broken Pier so I struggle to imagine a new remake for it in the future but I do think it’ll come back in a future game in some way. Definitely the creepiest track in the series though hands down despite the similarities to the other tracks that I mentioned before.
@Da_Sire Жыл бұрын
i swear falling on this course makes me wanna die due to well..... it being the damn reason i became thalassophobic as a child and still damn is.
@ade1174 Жыл бұрын
Nintendo choose a good pick to be the poster child of retros getting a second chance because I swear that Yoshi Circuit is picked online so often in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
@ty_mk8d Жыл бұрын
Banshee Boardwalk W
@GoldenYoshi1 Жыл бұрын
I started laughing when you got to N64 Frappe Snowland because I never know how to pronounce that either, I bounce between pronouncing it rhyming with "crap" and pronouncing it rhyming with "café"
@CaptainRillaboom3 ай бұрын
0:19 Actually, there's 2: Banshee Boardwalk and Koopa Beach 2.
@MeesterTweester Жыл бұрын
I thought Banshee Boardwalk was okay in Mario Kart DS. The coolest part is doing the little gap cut inside the building.
@Waffletigercat Жыл бұрын
The Tour/8 remake of GBA Sky Garden is a travesty and it deserves to be remade again in another console game, and actually kept accurate to the layout of GBA/DS.
@toasty.39 Жыл бұрын
Happy Peach Circuit got a banger remake in tour! and Luigi Ciruit is also here ig
@NoJokesInc Жыл бұрын
Great analysis on the Retro Tracks of MK DS, you really nailed it by considering neutrally what Tour's making too since many don't even want to point out about it even if it is the most influential part of the series for now. I am really fond of playing Banshee Boardwalk and it's probably one of the tracks from 64 with the greatest potential for a remake, it's really empty but that's what it makes with the atmosphere and it's really eerie music, the enemies present, some recent custom track remakes have really nailed the feeling, I would dig a recreation of this track any day. Voting for a Mario Kart Ultimate btw, I don't really see a reason for them to leave most of the stuff behind when they've done a lot for the mobile game lmao.
@LandonEmma Жыл бұрын
You can use codes to play all the tracks online or you can just mod the code in like most rom hacks do.
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
These days I suppose yeah. Wish it could just be officially playable though, TBH.
@Ajk8628.Reviews.2 ай бұрын
You realize that the reason Nintendo brought back the most popular and well deserved courses is the fact that they wanted to spread out remakes across the series since including probably most of the tracks you listed because the variety Nintendo chose was devoted to more of the fans of the games those came from, plus Nintendo probably thinks more of the original than the remakes.
@HDRookie2 ай бұрын
I don't quite follow your point, could you reword this?
@user-nx7fr3qp3v4 ай бұрын
All the SNES tracks need to be Fixed. Wario Colosseum, N64 Wario Stadium, DS Rainbow Road, N64 Banshee Boardwalk and GBA Sky Garden need to get Remade.
@CaptainRillaboom3 ай бұрын
10:14 Nah, I think they’ll reuse some already remade tracks. If they have 6 retros and 6 nitros, they can have until 6 remade tracks because it’s 1/4 tracks, which would still be decently balanced as I believe the retro battle courses would only be the ones that never came back. That’s because we now have 2 games that barely have anything to pick from: MK64 and MKDS. And I just think it would be kinda sad if there was games that have only 1 track in the retro selection. And among the 15 other 64 tracks that haven’t been remade, Banshee Boardwalk is the one with the biggest potential. As for DS, I’d say Airship Fortress, but for marketing reasons this time. Since many fans were frustrated that it didn’t make the cut to the BCP, Nintendo can bring it back in MK9 and make it one of the selling points of the Mario Kart 9 Retro Cups, along with Toad’s Factory.
@HDRookie3 ай бұрын
It makes sense that they would cycle through again for 64 / DS, but keep in mind, there are more "mouths to feed" now. There are 8-10 games now that need courses brought back, which makes the likelihood of just 1 being added from a category all the more probable.
@CaptainRillaboom3 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie I think Tour tracks are gonna be in a DLC. And I don't count this game as canon anyway. I swear, if Nintendo calls the next game "Mario Kart 10" or "Mario Kart X", I'm going to be *peaced*. And if there are just 8 games that need courses brought back (as I don't think BCP nitros are gonna make it because their nitro status is debatable) then we can have 6 nitros/6 retros, and give 3 tracks per game.
@SmashSSL Жыл бұрын
Best ghost track
@malakai9738 Жыл бұрын
0:21 actually 2, Banshee Boardwalk and Koopa Beach 2
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
True! Don't know how I missed KB2.
@Ghost713Real7 ай бұрын
Banshee Boardwalk probably coming back for MK9, can't really see many other n64 tracks they'd bring back besides Wario Stadium and maybe frappe snowland
@HDRookie7 ай бұрын
I'd love to see all 3 of them
@CaptainRillaboom5 ай бұрын
I honestly think they could use one of those tracks for MK9, since MK64 only has 1 track that has never been remade. And I think it would be kinda sad if there was only 1 N64 track in game. I think each MK game would deserves at least 2 courses per retro selection. So if I had to choose a course to be remade a second time, I would say Banshee Boardwalk. I can never get enough of this track and I would love to see it again. Apparently it was planned for Tour, but I can't help but think that like most other MKT retros, the Tour treatment wouldn't have done justice to this track. I want to see Banshee Boardwalk in its full glory, perhaps with an antigravity + underwater driving section.
@HDRookie5 ай бұрын
Would be really cool I imagine.
@CaptainRillaboom5 ай бұрын
@@HDRookieImagine putting a sunken ship in this level.
@HDRookie5 ай бұрын
@@CaptainRillaboom Starting to sound like Wario Shipyard, haha
@CaptainRillaboom5 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie Except creepier haha. Maybe add one or two islands, and add Boos and Eeries in the sunken ship to make a neat Super Mario World reference.
@christianfrost8660 Жыл бұрын
I do not get why people like GBA Bowser Castle 2 more than GBA Bowser Castle 3.
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's very few of us, honestly. I like the lack of shortcuts, and more open sections. And MKDS driving was quite fun on it too.
@Waffletigercat Жыл бұрын
How can you say N64 Banshee Boardwalk is the most mistreated track in the Mario Kart series when GCN Wario Colosseum exists? It's full of jumps, and would've been great for the introduction of stunting in Wii. Got passed over. It's twisty-turny-corkscrewy, and would've been great for the introduction of anti-grav in 8. Got passed over again. It's also the only track in the series to be long enough to warrant 2 laps, but not so long to only be a single lap, and that uniqueness warrants recognition. THAT is mistreatment!
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Wario Colosseum is my favorite track in the series. It's going to come back in one of the next 2 games and be a feature of that game. Banshee Boardwalk has been dead for 18 years now lol.
@ValiTheSaltMan Жыл бұрын
#JusticeForBansheeBoardwalk
@CaptainRillaboom5 ай бұрын
The courses I want to see get a 2nd/3rd remake in MK9 (I don’t count Tour as mainline): -Moo Moo Farm -Frappe Snowland -Banshee Boardwalk -Dino Dino Jungle -Delfino Square -DK Pass -Airship Fortress -Coconut Mall (but not butchered) -Neo Bowser City
@duragdee2760 Жыл бұрын
Huuuh? Banshee Boardwalk was deemed scary???? First time I'm hearing this.
@JRS06 Жыл бұрын
It is to be honest. The void background with nothing but endless ocean, the presence of only one fish and several ghosts, the empty boardwalk with only a few lamps lighting your way, the eerie music, and the mysterious house/church which doesn't feel like it's ever been lived in.
@ValiTheSaltMan Жыл бұрын
It kind of is, but the “scariness” of it imo makes it beautiful.
@Da_Sire Жыл бұрын
it fucking made me thalassophobic as a kid and i still am, fuck this course, ruined my love for swimming.
@Ray_2112 Жыл бұрын
Never considered it scary either, I guess I was more concentrated on the race than the surroundings since it's one of the most challenging ones. It's been one of my favourites since back then, we often played it multiple times by braking at the end and getting 5th or worse and then sometimes skipped RR because it was just too long/boring. 😄
@uslessyoutuber3092 Жыл бұрын
bruh what about the DS Rainbow road?
@malakai9738 Жыл бұрын
that one was available in online mode and it's a nitro track so its time will come
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the first remake here. But it will come eventually.
@larshmallows Жыл бұрын
Are u rly firehopping in 8d or is this some other tech I'm unaware of 💀
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Just alignment hops
@thatdovick29 Жыл бұрын
so whos going to tell him mk9 is mkt
@HDRookie Жыл бұрын
Already posted on it, but I don't think it's irrational to not consider Tour main series. It's a very successful spinoff, much like Pokemon Go. It just doesn't follow the same rules / formula.
@PixelPrime807 Жыл бұрын
first!
@Noshadesfunky8 ай бұрын
Mario kart ds is the worst mk game and has the worst tracks selection in the series and ANY retro track from ds deserves a REAL REMAKE.
@HDRookie8 ай бұрын
Definitely disagree about it being bad. I would say it had more limitations, that's all.
@CaptainRillaboom17 күн бұрын
@@HDRookieI know Noshadesfunky, he hates MKDS and he’s a huge MKWII Stan to the point that literally every Wii nitro is better than Airship Fortress (yes, including Luigi Circuit and Mario Circuit💀).