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Turning a Poly-V belt Pulley for the Homemade Bandsaw

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Marius Hornberger

Marius Hornberger

Күн бұрын

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@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
You may wonder why I didn't consider using aluminum or metal since I have a lathe. Simple reason: I already had the PE laying around which meant I didn't have to spend any money on that.
@gaetanpulfer4060
@gaetanpulfer4060 4 жыл бұрын
The real question is why did you use a 3D printer at the beginning instead of the lathe ? Especially in this case where removing material from a blank is particularly adequate ...
@Gin-toki
@Gin-toki 4 жыл бұрын
@@esakhwaja8592 Yes, it is possible to make 100% infill (no airgaps inside the printed object) on 3D printed objects. There's usually an infill setting where you can specify how much infill the objetc will get. This however drastically increases the printing time if you are using 100% infill.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
@Esa Khwaja: yes, you can set the infill to 100%
@10ulcinj
@10ulcinj 4 жыл бұрын
@Anifco67 If you have a good 3d Printer you just need to turn it on and print the object. There is not that much work involved, he probably just made a 3d Model in like 5mins for that piece and send it directly to the 3d Printer. If it didnt failed it would have been alot less work and cleanup to do. In the video it seemed he made that piece in 5 mins but actually it probably took him more than an hour.
@TrentR42
@TrentR42 4 жыл бұрын
@@gaetanpulfer4060 It appears he only has one block of PE, but needed to make two pulleys. So why not try printing both instead of just one? Also, he's a content creator. Even his failures make for engaging content.
@JohnHughes2002
@JohnHughes2002 4 жыл бұрын
Well rounded work, Herr Hornberger.
@MikkoKalavainen
@MikkoKalavainen 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s have a round of applause.
@pip5461
@pip5461 4 жыл бұрын
You have a fantastic workshop, full of equipment, which must have taken a long time to either build &/or purchase. Plus, with your mastery of use, makes it look so easy to manufacture virtually anything...
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 2 жыл бұрын
One source for polyvee belts is automotive bone yards. Almost all cars use them today for their belt driven accessories. Water pumps, alternators, A/C compressors etc. When machining plastics I used to like getting the speed and feed just right to get the waste straight into a circular file.
@tgirard123
@tgirard123 4 жыл бұрын
I love love love love love that jig! I'm making one of those this weekend for sure
@johnduffy7502
@johnduffy7502 Ай бұрын
Great work!
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, Marius~!! This is yet another of your videos that shows why you are one of my favorite makers~!! Great job~!
@vedranlatin1386
@vedranlatin1386 4 жыл бұрын
You can be a lot more aggressive with PE on a metal lathe, both with RPM and with feed. Also try to shorten the tailstock extension if possible
@timokapitein414
@timokapitein414 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing
@keganboddy8598
@keganboddy8598 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MaBuKunsthandwerk
@MaBuKunsthandwerk 4 жыл бұрын
Tolle Idee und Top gebaut und gedreht
@Mad.Man.Marine
@Mad.Man.Marine 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work man!! I freaking love that router table setup. I’ve never seen one like that. Not sure what I’d use it for but I want one lol
@Dj_Eilon_omer
@Dj_Eilon_omer 4 жыл бұрын
What a pleasure watching your videos, thank you 🙏🏼
@josejmourente
@josejmourente 4 жыл бұрын
un trabajo bien hecho, da gusto verlo
@OneCosmic749
@OneCosmic749 4 жыл бұрын
Some more videos about constructing machines like this please :)
@MuhammadDaudkhanTV100
@MuhammadDaudkhanTV100 4 жыл бұрын
Cool working
@toms.3977
@toms.3977 4 жыл бұрын
0:38 I feel your anguish Marius.
@enricodesign619
@enricodesign619 3 жыл бұрын
i love the PE stuff, i use it on my cnc, same color PE :)
@mattlong6359
@mattlong6359 4 жыл бұрын
As always another great piece of content Thanks Marius
@felixmayr2788
@felixmayr2788 4 жыл бұрын
Wie immer Top👌
@roguecthulhu6002
@roguecthulhu6002 4 жыл бұрын
seems like a lot of torque for a plastic pulley. good luck.
@xlucioflavio
@xlucioflavio 4 жыл бұрын
So simple!
@Javier..Escobar
@Javier..Escobar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your video and work.
@rickomatic4914
@rickomatic4914 4 жыл бұрын
Great job
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
@alessandrosilenzi
@alessandrosilenzi 4 жыл бұрын
Moin! Unwarranted suggestion from a theoretical machinist, feel free to discard or ignore: Quinn from Blondihacks has shown a trick on avoid long stands of waste material tangling on the spinning work. She mounts a vacuum on the tool and the long strand of waste material gets sucked in the vacuum hose without posing the risk of pushing the work or worse catching a finger.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
good idea
@darkwinter6028
@darkwinter6028 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm... I think the limiting factor is going to be traction... HDPE is slippery stuff... 🤔
@dadygee
@dadygee 4 жыл бұрын
the other day I was making a sharpening jig in a similar plastic (not sure wich because lable said recycled plastic) and sawing made a lot of burrs.. Using a knife or a plane on the same burr... aaaah... like cutting butter. So I put the blocks to the beltsander.. turned out it didnt get better.. it actually sucked all wood dust from belt and embeded it in the plastic. :D Tonight I am going to put a block in the lathe and see where that ends :) Probably like on your outtake shot..
@wilcojuffer5940
@wilcojuffer5940 4 жыл бұрын
Verry nice video if you use a leftspiral cutter you do not have bur for PE or other plastix 👍👍😊
@LordGarth6
@LordGarth6 4 жыл бұрын
dunno what settings ya used, but if ya try again for fun, id try use prusa slicer and use it to make a moddifier. Copy the part and edit it for a thick spoke wheel like design. export it. take the original put it in prusa slicer. the orginal design is processed as normal with the settings you wish to have the space between the spokes, say like 20% infill or something. right click the original and go to moddifiers load in the spoke design. the spoke design is then put in the exact same place as the original but right click and make it a moddifier, then use the modifier to make it 100% infill or super think walls and 75% infill.
@henryD9363
@henryD9363 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are excellent and I watch every one of them. I think the three phase AC motor has immense startup torque, as you have mentioned. The two large wheels of the band saw and blade make for a large startup inertial resistance. You have to get all that mass moving and spinning. I think the cross pin is way too short. There is a lot of force on the plastic during spin up. The pin should be longer.
@anthonvanderneut
@anthonvanderneut 4 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to have some links to where you buy the material you use, like the polyethylene.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
I got it locally, so there are no links to share
@DEADB33F
@DEADB33F 4 жыл бұрын
If you're in the UK then www.theonestopplasticsshop.co.uk does a good selection of copolymer (PP), PE, HDPE and the rest. Sheet, block, rod, etc. ....I rent a unit to a firm who uses the stuff extensively and they often give me their offcuts. As someone who mostly works in wood & metal plastic is super satisfying to work with for some reason. Especially when you get into plastic welding and the like.
@physicsguybrian
@physicsguybrian 4 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent workmanship! I wonder if you are going to have electrostatic buildup issues between the belt and the poly? Worth testing.
@adrianperalta7192
@adrianperalta7192 4 жыл бұрын
Excelente 👍
@chriscrowe3527
@chriscrowe3527 2 жыл бұрын
First time in a while ive seen you using the pantorouter. How has that machine stood the test of time for you? Is it made obsolete by your cnc machine?
@duncanbiggs755
@duncanbiggs755 4 жыл бұрын
Marius, been watching your channel for a long while now. Found it because of your wood working. It seems you have many more talents. Do you ever plan on making videos about 3D printing? The few things you have show us are very handy items. Also, didn't know you had a lathe for metal. You have an opportunity for much more content.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
I have a video about many 3D printed objects I made
@WobblycogsUk
@WobblycogsUk 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask why you didn't make it out of aluminium but a quick check of the prices and I see that aluminium is about three times the price for large sheets. Nice work either way.
@mrechbreger
@mrechbreger 10 ай бұрын
where did you get that 40° tool from?
@claeswikberg8958
@claeswikberg8958 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual!, but about the use of the magnets, what are the tolerances of their hights? arent you at risk ending up inducing an error that's worse than the cast surface of the PE as its often quite straight?
@NomadMakes
@NomadMakes 4 жыл бұрын
Can you link to the circle cutting router jig plz? It looked like a really good design.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
I just did
@rolfolmer7725
@rolfolmer7725 4 жыл бұрын
Danke für das Video. Was ist das für eine grüne Plastik?
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
Das ist Polyethylen. Wenn man nach PE300 googelt, sollte man es finden
@Martinchox
@Martinchox 4 жыл бұрын
is that the best material to turn? or what other Polymer or plastic is nice to turn?
@pascal789456123
@pascal789456123 4 жыл бұрын
For the 3d printed version, seems like you put in a whole lot of perimeters but had basically the default bottom and top layers. It completely sheered off. I usually try to have the same bottom top thickness than the side wall when I do mechanical parts. Having the model with cutouts with a branch style design would probably have helped distribute the load to the outer portion. Still, your final solution is probably better for long term reliability. 3d printed parts definitely has its limits
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
Top and bottom layer were 2 layers more than default. For the motor pulley 3D printing is not the optimal choice, but for the wheel pulley I think it's a good solution.
@pascal789456123
@pascal789456123 4 жыл бұрын
Marius Hornberger 3d printing is usually cheap and effortless enough that it’s worth a try. For a 0.4 mm nozzle, I usually print 0.25 layer height, 0.5 mm line width and use double the amount of layers vs perimeters for a equal thickness all around, 1 more for top since the first over the infill kind of doesn’t count. 4 or 5 perimeters with 50% infill is usually my go to settings for those kind of parts and they end up surprisingly sturdy. Good work! Keep it up 👍
@b5a5m5
@b5a5m5 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Marius! I bet in the future you can use a gradient infill on pulleys! Check out CNCKitchen's video on "Gradient Infill." Or perhaps the "smart infill" video may be more suitable.
@larrybud
@larrybud 4 жыл бұрын
Marius is Germany's answer to Matthias Wandel. Same speech pattern!
@BuntUndStereo
@BuntUndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel is Germany's answer to Matthias Wandel.
@juhokestila7367
@juhokestila7367 4 жыл бұрын
2:14 What is the black 3d printed part at the corner of the lathe headstock?
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
It's a holder for the headstock/chuck cover, because its hinge isn't the best
@earlye
@earlye 4 жыл бұрын
The outtake section is a bit light on this one. Please mess up more ;-)
@antontaylor4530
@antontaylor4530 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@johnford7847
@johnford7847 4 жыл бұрын
In my experience, nothing sticks well to HPDE. Did you have to take especially light cuts when working it? Thanks.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
No, I could be quite aggressive
@valiany
@valiany 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marius what is the different between wood band saw and iron band saw? just the rpm or is there more?
@tcsyme
@tcsyme 4 жыл бұрын
Cost and quality, pride of ownership & accomplishment, etc, etc. In other words, the usual reasons for making something instead of buying it. Here is the designer's intro video for the saw I believe Marius built. woodgears.ca/bandsaw/homemade.html
@Silverlyx
@Silverlyx 4 жыл бұрын
You really tickled that with the lathe 😂 But nice.
@ninsaburo14shiratori
@ninsaburo14shiratori 4 жыл бұрын
sag mal woher bekommst du hier in deutschland dein hartholz? suche nach einer guten Quelle seit ner weile.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
ich hab ein Sägewerk im Umkreis gefunden, das Harthölzer zusägt, trocknet und verkauft.
@Blue_4-2
@Blue_4-2 4 жыл бұрын
😊👍
@rr974
@rr974 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why you are going for almost a 1:1 ratio. Do you also want to achieve higher speed for cutting wood? To make the saw more capable for cutting metal it might have been better to go for a 1:2 ratio that would result in more torque at lower speed. For cutting wood you could then just let the VFD run at 100Hz to achieve the same speed for cutting wood as before.
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
I aimed for 25 m/s max. cutting speed with the motor still running at 50Hz. And the pulley ratio is almost 1:1 for that
@rr974
@rr974 4 жыл бұрын
@@MariusHornberger You don't plan on letting the motor run faster than 50Hz? To get best performance for the whole range it might be better to set the max. cutting speed at a higher frequency.
@HalliHallo946
@HalliHallo946 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! U forgot turning rule #1 in at 5:19 ;-)
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
I know :(...my dad also already told me
@terrywalpole5538
@terrywalpole5538 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me cringe that part. You only ever do or hear it done once but you’ll never forget it 😉
@masheroz
@masheroz 4 жыл бұрын
Can you link to the video about your router jig?
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
I added a couple links
@masheroz
@masheroz 4 жыл бұрын
@@MariusHornberger ta a lot.
@Rsama60
@Rsama60 4 жыл бұрын
With a lathe like this I never would have considered printing the drive wheel. Not with a print time of 9 hours plus the finish on the lathe. Maybe more fun and interessting but for sure not economical.
@antontaylor4530
@antontaylor4530 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing you just said is wrong, but sometimes I 3D print things that shouldn't really be 3D printed, just to see if I can make them work. I find the challenge fun. But I'm wierd, just ask my wife!
@iamtheomega
@iamtheomega 4 жыл бұрын
additive not there yet, back to subtractive..
@gamerpaddy
@gamerpaddy 4 жыл бұрын
looks very thin walled, use thicker walls and top/bottoms. i usually go with 3mm or thicker. infill isnt that important, 10..20% would even work fine with this.
@alejandroalessandro7820
@alejandroalessandro7820 4 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos... Pity you swear - guess it's more normal in Germany
@rd-ch1on
@rd-ch1on 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@karol9330
@karol9330 4 жыл бұрын
06:56 - that's where the visual ASMR starts
@MarinusMakesStuff
@MarinusMakesStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Good choice of material. I love 3D-printing, but pulley wheels for these kind of applications is a wrong implementation of the technique. 3D-printed parts will not be strong enough unless you design your own algorithmic infill and internal support structures and choice of filament matters a lot.
@thomasloven
@thomasloven 4 жыл бұрын
There's no way to say this which won't sound disrespectful, but I certainly mean no disrespect. All the colored plastic in the pantorouter shot makes it look like a toy. Funny.
@joachimkiesler4580
@joachimkiesler4580 4 жыл бұрын
Tja, ich drücke alle Daumen, das das auf Dauer hält, größere Beträge würd ich aber nicht drauf wetten. Ich denke, PE ist weicher als die vorher genutzte Siebdruckplatte und du hast erlebt, was ein lausiger Riemen mit dem Holz gemacht hat. Und Siebdruckplatte ist schon ziemlich hart im Nehmen. Wie gesagt, ich drücke die Daumen. das die Stiftlagerung hält und das der Anrtriebsriemen sich nicht in die Rillen einfräst. Gruß Jo
@Ruhmreicher_Wolf
@Ruhmreicher_Wolf 4 жыл бұрын
Warum baust du dir keinen Sanftstarter ein? Dann ist das Drehmoment beim einschalten nicht so hoch und du hättest auch das Problem des durchrutschens nicht mehr. Das ganze würde den Motor und die Konstruktion deutlich schonen.
@PhilGroene
@PhilGroene 4 жыл бұрын
Kommt dass nicht mit dem Frequenzumrichter 🤔
@MariusHornberger
@MariusHornberger 4 жыл бұрын
Ich baue einen Frequenzumrichter ein. Der erfüllt dann Sanftstart, sämtliche Schutzfunktionen und variable Geschwindigkeit, die ich auch haben wollte
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