I really liked the plates with food analogy to describe analytical and musical. I've often been stumped by the description of a headphone being musical. This metaphor makes it clearer to me.

Awesome, thanks

Awesome, glad you liked it. I'm not running mine off of anything so fancy, just a Massdrop O2/SDAC combo.

@@WheezyTech you still using HD6xx with O2+sdac? I just got HD6xx with O2+sdac, you think it's a good dac/amp?

Ifi micro and nano are also amazing. And if u want something cheaper then Ifi Zen they have to me the best sound with HD 6 series.

@@chefgav1 This is BS based on one persons opinion, anecdotal evidence, a misunderstanding of how (in)accurate headphone measurements actually are (There will always be differences from rig to rig, headphone position on the rig, the training of the operator etc...) and the significant prevalence of unit variances. You'll find the majority of people in the know still believe the 6XX and 650 are the same headphone. Which is also what Drop themselves claim it to be. Not saying the rumour that they are different couldn't be true, its quite possible, but frankly there is not enough evidence to claim so. You'd need a larger sample size, measured on the same rig and or Drop actually admitting that the 6XX isn't a 650. And some guys ears do not equal proof, ears are far too fallible. Regardless of all this, commenting on a video that is over a year old to criticise what was (and frankly still is) a widely held belief that the 6xx and 650 are the same headphone is as short sighted as putting your beliefs in anecdotal evidence. Do you expect that your comment will go through a time loop back to when this video was published? But whatever, go off.

Thanks for watching :D

Awesome, thanks :D

Unless you plug them to quality OTL amp you dont know their full potential

Yeah 650/6XX are one of those 'must own' headphones

Great review, I agree with every aspect of this review. One minor quibble , not just this review, but a lot of reviews, in regards to the bass. Before I got the 6xx, I was expecting them to be bass lite, but I found them to have a good amount of bass. The only aspect of the bass that wasn't as noticeable as some headphones was the 20hz to 60hz region. But what I find is that rolled off bass below 60hz isn't that noticeable with most music. It would be noticeable if the bass dropped off a cliff below 60hz, but a roll off still allows one to hear bass below 60hz.

HD 650 are the smoothest headphone i ever hear with that resolution, But there are others like Sundara that have better clarity and seperation but sound fake with metalic sound and the seperation and soundstage doesnt sound realistic like in real life that every instrument blend together. The gold Standar is the HD660s it has the perfect balance smooth but with clarity small soundsatge that works great for stereo music in your head sound , vocals in your head and not shout, seperation is not big with air betwwen the instruments its more realistic like listening music with instruments close to each other but without losing the texture and different sound of every instrument . HD660s are something that must listen side by side with every other headphone to understand how good they are.

Hey man, check out the channel fresh reviews. He does a series DEDICATED to figuring out which headphones give the best pinpoint imaging for competitive gaming. He was an EX counter strike PRO player.

@@soulfulfool I have already done this (GE & Svetlana), and you are correct. ;-)

I'd recommend closed back so you don't hear the drum pads. Open back bleed a lot od sound, but they sound better. Hope that helps.

I have the DT 1990 Pro but havent yet heard the DT 880. I love both the 1990 and 6xx equally, one is aggressive, energetic and detailed, the other smooth and refined. Compliment each other quite well. RE the 58x, I want to get hold of a pair and see if they live up to the hype, but from what I've read they have been a little overhyped, you might like the HD6xx.

I've been shouted out

Yeah I've been thinking about picking up an AKG K7* or two. Maybe the K7xx as a starter, I've never heard any of that line before.

@@WheezyTech akg 702 and going on and off sale for just £85 on Amazon atm. Sadly no 712 sales :(.

@@metal571 :D

7XX is terrible, they ruined the bass quality on it. Wouldn't recommend that one lol

HD660s have the best pin point direction , Way better than Sundara and other Sennheiser headphones.

You could both start and finish with these they are one of the classics

Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 3. I'm not overly happy with this combo atm tbh. Especially as KZfaq seems to mess with the audio after upload. I'm still trying to get it dialled in right.

@@WheezyTech have you tried the cloudlifter preamp

I havent tried the original but I do have a knock off SubZero SZ-MA1 I reviewed it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j991ldx6nLyUlJc.html

Do you think it's necessary to pair a DAC with the amp or just the amp will be enough?

hiimedd Depends on the quality of your source. If your PC has a crappy or noisy DAC you’ll hear it, from a Mac, iPhone or decent PC/Android phone you will be fine.

@@antoinep9733 Thx!

Yeah its a shame they dropped the EU thing, and annoying the extra steps and hoops to jump through when importing. But as long as you know what to expect buying from Drop is pretty simple.

@@WheezyTech I was going to pick up a pair of hifima. 400SE's. Amazon UK have ananda, su dara etc but not 400se, Hifiman store etc seems to have abondoned UK after brexit, no UK pricing anymore, shipping appears to be direct from China etc., Very strange and somewhat offoutting as a UK resident as to if I want to deal with them., wondering if you or any of your UK subscribers had a view or news if they are going to sort this out?

AKG K371

@@WheezyTech Thanks friend

This is a year later but I notice you spam the HD660s quite a bit in these comments. Wasn't it fine just to say it once? Why did you feel the need to say it multiple times. Also, the HD560s is so close to the HD660s that you'd be stupid to buy the HD660s. Lastly, the HD660s isn't the same sound signature as the HD650 and HD600.

@@kalel33 I am not spaming my friend, i am trying to help people that want to choose something. Personally i have all HD5 6 and 7 line of Sennheiser so if u see my comments a lot of people is asking for my opinion so its only good. Its not my need to say it many times i am not winning anything if this is your point i just love this hoby and try to help people , like someone else did that for me. U gone asked why in so many youtube videos? because the more i write the more people will see it . About HD 560s its not close to HD 660s u are wrong and no i am not stupid every headphone is different and i love it for different reasons . The HD660s has the same sound signature like HD 650 and 600 for sure . But again i respect your opinion but is wrong , u can read some measurements or even buy all of them and use them and know better like i did. Or just go to read my posts on Head-Fi that i write for all Sennheisers and some Hifimans. Thanks for replying.

@@Tripokaridos22 Spamming is writing the same thing over and over again, which you have done quite a few times in this comment section. You even wrote the same thing multiple times. I'm extremely skeptical that someone has bought all 11 models of the 500 series headphones. Also, on that I'm wrong that the HD560s doesn't sound like the HD660s, I live in a large metropolitan where I can actually audition them and they do sound the same. You can even find KZfaqrs that compare them and say they are 2-5% difference. They are neutral headphones and not recessed highs with forward mid-range like the HD650, HD6xx, and HD600. Completely different sound signature. Even Sennheiser disagrees with you. This is what their official account on Head-fi wrote, "The bigger story here is its precise sound and lineage to our HD 6x0 series, namely the HD 660S". So yes, Sennheiser designed the HD560s with the same sound signature of the HD660s.

@@kalel33 I am writing the same thing over and over again the more people i chat with and i learn and they learn the better, i dont see any problem on that. About u are extreme skeptical that i have all HD 5 then u are right because i dont have 11 of them unless if there are some models that i dont know... I have the most of them 560.569,579,599,598,598CS,58X ,from Drop,the old jubilee , i also have HD 600,650,660s,700, 6XX from Drop and 2 of them are the new Romania version also the one of them have the new white ring pad. If u read my Head -fi comments u gone see a lot of pictures of my headphones , i also have Sundara, Clears, and some others like HD 25 etch etch . I love headphones its my hoby. U cant have an opinion about Headphone with one audition without using your music anc dac amp also they are open backs they need silent environment , youtubers also dont have the XP and the hours because half of them paid to say what they say and the others have only 1-2 hours of listening, ME? i have more than 200-300 on most of them and used with different dac amps, So i know better ( it sounds bad i know but it is what it is) So let me help u ... HD 660s DO NOT sound the shame or close to HD 560s . They image better they are warmer more natural sound with small soudnstage , HD 560s are more nautral cold with bigger soundstage etch etch.... ALL HD 6 Line , ALL have the shame characteristics everyone knows that all of them have Vocals in front all of them are warm on high bass all of them have amazing timbre and all them have in your head soundstage , the differences are small for example the most Neutral are the 600 the most warm and smooth HD650 and HD 660s that i love have some of both of them with way better imaging ,separation and tight bass. Honestly the only headphone that maybe sounds close to HD 660s is the HD58X and NOT the HD 560s. At the end sorry for telling u that... But if u told me that u have 40 headphones like i did would be more realistic than Telling me HD 560s sound close to HD660s that is just not possible . About what Sennheiser write ... Let me remind u what they write on the BOX of HD 660s first series ( the legend continues) its was about 650 legend. What they write is how U WANT to translate it , and because i speak with Sennheiser they mean that the new HD 560s is closer to HD 6 line and not LIKE HD 6 line ... Yeah they are way Different compared to my HD 599 for example and yeah they are Closer to HD 600 or 650 or 660s but they ARE NOT share the shame soundsignature , FOR GOD shake even the angled drivers and pads give huge difference. Anyways u should know that Senneheiser some times write something to sell , i am not . They even write that HD 25 sound the shame with HD250 BT , trust me they dont. If u understand all these good for u . If u dont i wish u to have 25 Years XP like i do and have way more headphones than me and get your own opinion. Until then u should listen Others with more XP than u, that is something that i do For example Ichos and Solderdude are a good starting point for u also... Read their posts and u gone learn something . Or u can keep seeing KZfaqrs and bealive what ever u want to bealive .

@@Tripokaridos22 You don't see a problem with it but it's the literal definition of spamming a comment section. I forgot about the HD58x, so there are 12 500 series models. You don't have most of them, you have half of them. You're missing the 518, 559, 558, 595, 515, and 555, I guess Sennheiser and every single comparison review I've read are wrong, along with my own ears. By the way, I listened to them with a ifi Zen Can DAC and amp. They sell those too. I too have the HD6xx, along with the HD598, Focal Elex, and AKG K712 Pro. I tested the HD600, which were my favorite but the minor difference between them and the HD6xx wasn't worth the price. I thought the HD660s were very good but I wasn't looking for a neutral headphone. They sounded too close to my Elex without the punch and slam, along with lacking the detail. I wanted a warm headphone and they weren't it. My HD598 are closer to the HD6xx and HD600 than the HD660s to them in sound signature.

Evidence? I got my HD 6xx earlier this month and its made in Romania.

@@faautobahna9416 The last stock parts has been moved to Romania Factory. Its was 3-4 months adaptive time. That's why some HD6 series headphones had the old grils and new pads . New HD6 series have the different headband, Driver with date after January 2020 (its written inside) the pads also are not Donut type 2.2 , they are Conical type 2.7 . If u want evidence u can call Sennheiser , or Read Head hifi forums. After they stock out the old ones ,Drop maybe will also get the new ones. Don't be afraid sound is the same , HD6xx smooth veiled sound, and HD660s resolution , imaging ,faster driver, tighter bass and little bit brighter than 6xx. Nothing change on sound.

@@faautobahna9416 By the way I prefer the old pads donut type to my ears , personally I take off my 6xx pads and place them to my 660S for this reason. Some say that new ones are more comfortable , its all about taste.

I never knew this was such a contentious pronunciation until now. Its very common in England, although not universal, probably more a regional thing, to say 'haytch' rather than 'aitch'. I do believe that 'aitch' is considered the most correct but 'haytch' is also accepted and I think in England, at least where I live, it is probably more common.

@@WheezyTech Thanks for the response. I guess in the end it is more correct to actually say the "h" sound, not just "aitch".

Oh yea you're right. If the hd6xx is boredrline bright for you, Many of the well known headphones would be too bright for you. You definitely wouldn't want any beyerdynamic headphones, that's for sure.

@@pajamas6767 not enough information. need to know your budget, open or closed headphones, do you have an amplifier for more demanding headphones? since this original comment I went down the rabbit hole and have owned Focal Elex, Radiance, Clear MG(I like them all). Also Beyerdynamic 1990 Pro's(stupidly harsh 9k peak). And Audeze LCD-X 2021 model. I don't use any of them despite still having all the Focal and the Audeze. Just 6XX. The comfort and amazing vocals win me over. Need to sell all the rest.

@@garyluciani370 or most of planars, they are terrible with highs

Wut?