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Much appreciated, thank you!

Thank you! Tube magic is real, man!

@@MasterMarslander class A is not bad either

Certainly helps make them more comfortable!

I agree. I did the same thing. Excellent upgrade.

@@stephenlegg262 , hi Steve , thanks I also fitted thicker ear pads and done the same for my 660 s too . Regards mark

Not the 400SE specifically, no. But other hifimans like the 4XX, 560, and 6SE. Have definitely been looking at 400SE sales lately.

Congrats! Hope you enjoy them!

Me too! Scared the audio will seep into my mic tho

@@riotgamesx6201 unless you have the most sensitive mic on earth, that shouldn't be a problem. 👍

@@MasterMarslander Thanks for the reply, I just got the Maono PD200x, I've had an M-audio mixer for a long time I'm just trying to get into this XLR stuff now

@@riotgamesx6201 the Maono Caster is a pretty easy way to get into XLR and interfaces. It's not the best thing out there, but it's pretty affordable and will get the job done.

eq?

@@acombo Will take a proper amp to run but with equalizer apo this is my eq: Preamp: -15 dB Channel: All Filter 1: ON PK Fc 2284 Hz Gain -10.4 dB Q 1.00 Filter 2: ON PK Fc 228 Hz Gain -8.7 dB Q 1.00 Filter 3: ON PK Fc 415 Hz Gain -8.3 dB Q 1.00 Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1247 Hz Gain -5.5 dB Q 1.04 Filter 5: ON PK Fc 901 Hz Gain 3.8 dB Q 1.07 Filter 6: ON PK Fc 2061 Hz Gain 9.0 dB Q 2.73 Filter 7: ON PK Fc 626 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 2.02 Filter 8: ON PK Fc 3512 Hz Gain -4.7 dB Q 3.53 Filter 9: ON PK Fc 5900 Hz Gain 3.9 dB Q 3.00 Filter 10: ON PK Fc 128 Hz Gain -2.2 dB Q 2.00 Filter 11: ON PK Fc 5108 Hz Gain -2.3 dB Q 12.59 Filter 12: ON PK Fc 5494 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 20.00 Filter 13: ON PK Fc 4513 Hz Gain -1.5 dB Q 10.00 Filter 14: ON PK Fc 4228 Hz Gain 1.2 dB Q 20.00 Filter 15: ON PK Fc 4732 Hz Gain 1.1 dB Q 20.00 Filter 16: ON PK Fc 4664 Hz Gain -0.4 dB Q 20.00 Filter 17: ON PK Fc 938 Hz Gain -0.3 dB Q 20.00 Filter 18: ON PK Fc 1746 Hz Gain -0.6 dB Q 20.00 Filter 19: ON PK Fc 1969 Hz Gain 0.6 dB Q 20.00 Filter 20: ON PK Fc 6100 Hz Gain -1.9 dB Q 5.00

Would like to see an option for different cable attachment, I get they have a classic design. Still is a large selling point when getting into the hobby and I have finite space

Could not agree more that it’s tried and true and in no way requires an update

they need to fix the lows! deeper extension at 5hz will be a good start, to justify the price. until then, the 560S are the clear winner at 6hz.

Amen 🙏

It's the best 👌

They will last you forever. Enjoy!

for 180 this is solid headphone, even if I wanted to talk about their flaws low price not allow to compare them to more expensive headphones :)

"It's possible you might be forcing the larger pole into the smaller hole." Are we still talking headphones here? 🤔😛🤣🤣

Often times I too prefer the HD600 over the 650 or 6XX.

You got a micro idsd signature finale for only $300?? That's a great deal. Yes, should be a very solid pairing.

Amen to that.

Zen stack is a great pairing for the 6XX. You'll have a blast. As for tube amps I highly reccomend the Darkvoice 336SE, or the Xduoo TA-26s, the latter being available on Amazon. amzn.to/42xg0xF

@@MasterMarslander thanks for advice 👍

Hi , totally agree with you my 660 comes alive with the true bass selected , I have also 6 xx with custom cans bass mod which improve bass at the bottom end . I also replace ear pads on 6xx and 660s to help too . Regards mark

I think they're fantastic for games. Tons of detail, spatial audio, fantastic imaging. You will need an amp though. Plugging them directly into your controller or PC will not be a great experience. I haven't heard the 560s just yet, so I can't directly comment on them, but I imagine the two are pretty similar overall.

It's lacking that base punch and details if you like the gun shots, explosions and rumbles, but It's not fatiguing since it's not exciting. There are a lot more others that has more details if you want that for gaming, but it's fatiguing.

@@hong-enlin4651 What would you recommend for gaming? I do listen to music and watch movies also. But I would appreshiate a good soundstage and positional audio.

Hope you enjoy them!

Awesome. Hope you enjoy them!

One day I will try tube when i want to spend for tubes rolling. (expensive in Canada).

@MuzdokOfficial funnily enough, I was just running them on tubes earlier today. Euphoric.

@@MasterMarslander what is your setup for them?

@@MuzdokOfficial TA-26S from a D90.

@@MasterMarslander I almost got this but as I mentioned earlier, because tubes needs to be replaced often, I decided to try at a later time. It was my choice for a while that Xduoo. Is it that obvious of a difference because opinions seems mixed about the difference it makes.

If you want to use it with your phone I reccomend you get a portable amp. I have a video on the Hip Dac, which is my favorite little portable powerhouse.

@@MasterMarslander Perhaps I should settle with PC38x and GSP500 I have no problem using the latter with smartphone and the mic is excellent for talking

@mingkee27 both are great, you can't really go wrong. HD6XX is just a much higher impedance headphone then those others and really requires amplification.

@@MasterMarslander what's your opinion on HD58x? I checked the spec and I think it should be more smartphone friendly. (150ohms and 104dB/1V) Keep in mind both of my phones support 32bit/192kHz with Poweramp and I have hundreds of albums in FLAC from CDs

Well what kind of sound signature do you tend to prefer? Something neutral and balanced, something a little more v shaped, big kicking bass, something super detailed? Also do you want open back or closed back?

Well, in case you run out of time and need a random suggestion in a hurry, I think the Higiman Edition XS might be a good choice. I have not heard one in a while, but i remember really enjoying it. amzn.to/3uJfQa8

The K7 outputs 560mW per channel at 300ohm, so you should be fine. 1% distortion isn't the best measurement, but you shouldn't notice it.

The cable is from FANMUSIC. I run 6N8P and 6N5P tubes on an xDuoo TA-26S.

@@MasterMarslander Do you think the DROP + XDUOO TA-84 will be equal or better than the xDuoo TA-26S? Will the 6N8P and 6N5P tubes also work on the TA-84? Does TA-84 output much less power? Does TA-26S have the same problem as TA-84 (which is only suitable for driving high impedance headphones)?

@@Viewer13128 Good question. I hope to get a DROP + xDuoo TA-84 in the studio sometime soon so I can make a direct comparison. I do not know if the tubes will be compatible between the two amplifiers, but I would guess that they are not, at least not entirely. Based on the published specs for the two, it looks like the TA-26S produces a lot more output power and can optimally run headphones between 60-600 ohms impedance, while the TA-84 impedance range is 100-600 ohms.

@@MasterMarslander thnx. sounding like the TA-26S is better. so the tubes TA-26S uses will be cheaper to replace too? how long do your tubes usually last? Regarding cable, is it the "FANMUSIC C6 Headphone Upgraded Cable"?

@@Viewer13128 on paper my guess is that the TA-26S is the better buy, but I won't know for sure until I've had a chance to try them side-by-side. Tube life varies by a number of metrics. How often they are used, how well they are taken care of, the climate you live in, manufacturing, etc. etc. The tubes that come with xDuoos in general are pretty cheap to replace, so if they do die on you over time you shouldn't have a lot of trouble replacing them.

They are not bluetooth headphones, no. I just finished a review of some very stylish bluetooth headphones by Edifer you can check out, but they do not compare to the 6XX in terms of sound performance.

I highly reccomend pairing with an amp. This is a 300 ohm headphone, which means it needs some substantial power to perform properly.

@@MasterMarslander ye what amp about 100$ can i buy? In fron Eu

@bloodenjoyer7108 I'm a fan of the Schiit Magni for an entry level amp. www.schiit.com/products/magni-plus

@@MasterMarslander i need to buy from usa??

@@Baldimir500 it would ship from the US, yes. Let me find you an alternative if you don't want to deal with that.

Do you have a budget in mind? That can help narrow down some ideal options.

I was thinking about something like this model: FX-Audio DAC-X6 Mini HiFi 2.0.

@@olyoly8914 if you want to stay in the sub $100 range, I'd say maybe try an ifi zen air dac.

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Thanks

I agree with this analogy!

There is a difference between the 6XX and the 58X. So if it is a question of are they too similar, then no, you will be getting a different listening experience with the 6XX. If it is a question of whether or not you would prefer the 6XX over the 58X, that's going to be up to you. 58X is more relaxed and fun. 6XX is more neutral and resolving with better natural timbre.

@@MasterMarslander yeah i get your point, unfortunately even second-hand 6 series are too expensive to try out. from sound demos i've heard online 6xx seems to have more depth @300 ohm, but personally can't justify the price! what's your thoughts on the 560S? because as far as neutrality, the 560S (revised 2022 edition) seem to out-perform the 6 series in all aspects (especially for music making).

@h-dawg6462 if you're happy with your 58X I don't think you need to worry about a 6XX anyway. In your shoes I'd probably save up for a different kind of headphone entirely, like maybe a planar. As for the HD560S I haven't had the opportunity to hear it yet, but I have heard very good things about it!

@@Panda-1911 Schiit Magni. Can't go wrong.

@@MasterMarslander magni+ ?

@@Panda-1911 by directly to be sure you get the most current version. www.schiit.com/products/magni-unity

I think both will be fine, especially through the balanced output. Math is in the green for both.

The HD6XX is a 300 ohm headphone, which means that it does require a fair bit of power to run properly. If you are trying to listen to the headphone just through your phone or through your PC, you might encounter some issues. I strongly suggest a headphone amplifier for best results. I can offer some suggestions depending on your budget.

@@MasterMarslander makes sense because ill be playing a game or listening to music and it will be fine one second and then it will cut in or out or make the sound realy choppy

@@MasterMarslander would a dak fix my problem or would it still have issues? Sometimes it plays fine and then it chops in and out and doesn’t play clearly

@justliving4500 you need an amp more than a dac. Dac would be nice to have, but without the power it still won't work right.

@@MasterMarslander what exactly will an amp do?

You'll notice a huge improvement to resolution and detail, and a much more natural and balanced sound.

Trollberg I own both headphones and I much prefer the hd 6xx. The shp9500 are brighter more treble, but it's grainy sounding treble. If you're used to the sound of the shp9500, there's a good chance you'll be thrown for a loop. The hd6xx is much warmer, mellower and not as bright. The hd 6xx is a more relaxed, laid back sound but I find them delicious after listening to them for a while and letting myself adjust to their sound profile.

This is interesting, as I've never had the two together to compare directly at one time. Could you describe the differences between the HD650 and HD6XX for us here?

Will they sound good with black metal or any extreme sound low fi sound?

@Trollberg they should serve well for both, but if you're looking to huge bass to accompany those genres then you might want to EQ for that. HD660s2 has very natural bass and great bass extension, but it's not a bass head headphone to be sure.

@@MasterMarslander most black metal is not bass heavy. Its more mid frequency and tremolo sound. Very minimalistic and raw production/mix. Thanks for the input I'm enjoying your channel.

@MasterMarslander The differences between the original HD650 & the HD6XX are very subtle, and one has to listen closely over a period of time to really notice. Don't get me wrong, the 6XX is an outstanding headphone for the price. Perhaps it's the age of my 650's, being 12yo. Another contributing factor could be the change in materials, suppliers, even the assembly of the units may have changed over the years. Sennheiser still make them, so a 2022 650 for example, may sound different to a 2011 650. The original 650's IMO, just have that edge in clarity. The mids are just a tad more life like and the treble sparkles without becoming fatiguing. I always thought if Sennheiser could add bass to a 650 without changing the mids or treble, they'd be near perfect. Unfortunately, as is the case with the 660S2's, in their quest to add bass, they've lost something from the mids/highs.

Hey man, no need to be sorry! No matter how gear might measure, preference will always be subjective. Sundara's can do a lot that the 6XX can't, so you might just be more of a planar listener.

@@MasterMarslander I thought no one would be reading my comment 😅

@@hong-enlin4651 I read them all, bud!

@@MasterMarslander Actually I might have to take my statement back, it' been many years like you said. Back then you have to use the 6XX as a reference if you are watch DMS or other audiophile channels. They compare a lot of speakers to the 6XX. Secondly I do remember using it smooth out tracks that's been recorded terribly. Any analytical headsets in that situation would be unusable.

Wild. Can't say I've had the same experience with the HD600. Course, I do spend most of my time with them on tubes.

@@MasterMarslander Yeah, I strongly dislike the HD600's. I've listened to them on a few solid state amps and well as the figaro 339 tube amp and the xduoo tube amps, and I just can't stand them.

@@johenkay1129 what do you daily drive right now, out of curiosity?

@@MasterMarslander I swap from the Susvara and the Utopia, but I just ordered the HD650's. I'm hoping I can get that legendary mid range smoothness from the 650's on my chain without the veil.

@@johenkay1129 whoo doggy, you got quite the setup!