One of the things I’ll always hate is how they canonized the “storm troopers can’t aim” joke, it just cheapens them even more than they should be

Andor in the final arc made Stormtroopers terrifying. Up until the final shootout, the show only dealt with backwater rent-a-cops, regular cops, and regular military. Yet in the last episode when Stormtroopers and Death Troopers show up, it felt like a threat; and when the shooting started the threat was real. Stormtroopers were efficient, accurate, and deadly. They dropped so many people with ease that would have been a struggle to any other fighting force up to that point in the show.

The most infuriating thing of all is how well Kenobi performed and how positive it was recievied despite beeing the actual worst attempt at action or any logical sequence of actions I have ever seen. And nobody watched andor… this makes me so sad for the future of Star Wars…

Andor was shot in the UK using actual locations across the entire country and at Pinewood Studio's where the original movies were produced. Made by British directors, crew, and mostly British and Irish actors used outside the main cast, utilising British standards in film production. As far away from Hollywood as it needed to be, on top of the excellent writing these are the main reasons it kicked absolute ass over the other efforts !! Well done to Disney for having the balls to let a bunch of guys 5000 miles away get on with their jobs undisturbed, please take some more risks with the franchise.

Andor is so good! It’s not good just because it’s in the Star Wars universe, it’s just simply the best political scifi drama on television ever!

Few years ago where I live there was a road rage incident at a gas station where a guy was punched in the face, and he fell and hit his head on a concrete podium for a fuel pump. Died instantly. So the "headbutt, fall and die" thing doesn't seem so implausible. This kind of thing does happen in real life.

When I began to watch Andor I expected nothing, mostly because Kenobi delivered so little stakes I ended watching it with one eye doing other stuff at the same time. Then I was baffled by the grounded tension Andor had. That felt REAL, dangerous from the beginning and the scene you use to compare.

I wonder if Disney wasn’t making so many Star Wars shows at once, than maybe the Kenobi show could of had more money and effort put into it. Quality over quantity.

The only 2 characters in Andor that we know needed to live were Andor and Mothma. Everyone else was up for grabs and that's why it's so great.

Andors action sequences are so hard hitting they feel more like a scene out of Heat than SW

The second Andor fight felt like an encounter in X-COM. Taking initiative by moving or firing back felt extremely dangerous, but they couldn’t hunker down because the Rebels were outnumbered and needed to escape, so the fight seemed truly desperate. It was tense, even stressful, and that it made it impactful.

Hi man, Danish army veteran here. I can confirm that your points on the hangar shootout scene are totally valid. Some have made the point that Skeen didn't provide sufficient covering fire, and that it might have been intentional. From what I can see in the scenes, Skeen does not have clear line sight on the guy shooting Taramyn. Uncovered angles are an ever present danger in urban combat, and it requires a lot of training and cohesion in a unit to identify such areas and communicate it to the rest of the unit. Otherwise you have a Taramyn running into a kill zone and getting dropped.

Im so tired of these Disney shows that don't seem to care. Andor cares, Season 1 of Mando cared, Rogue 1 Cared. I miss that

I love how sparingly Andor used Stormtroopers. As Obi-Wan said in episode 4 they really are elite troopers. This was kinda shown in Solo where we are introduced to the actual imperial infantry, which are all conscripts instead of elite proffesional soldiers like the Stormtroopers are. And even then, the imperial troppa in Andor are still a threat to the rebels.

As someone who was an infantryman, I loved the cover fire. It’s a small thing, but such a vital part of gunfights.

The more you see and hear about Kenobi, the more you realise how little care was given on all fronts

When I saw Andor announced two years ago I wasn't interested in it but god was I wrong, I watched Andor and wow, it's the best thing that has ever happened to star wars, everything was so polished, the photography, narrative, dialogues, etc... People should really consider watching Andor, best star wars show hands down

16:05 Also that less likely event of the cop dying from falling is excusable for another reason. It's not just any old plot contrivance made up to allow Andor to escape an obstacle. Rather, it's the inciting incident of the entire show, meaning that the show is less saying "Andor faces this situation but gets out with this unexpected event", but rather "Andor does this thing accidentally; what are the consequences?"

I think the reason Skeen doesn’t stick with his covering fire is not just cowardice but also a tactic; he explicitly says to andor that fewer survivors means a bigger cut for him.

I thought having the Stromtroopers at the checkpoint being lazy or not taking the Jedi Hunt seriously might fix the scene with minimal changes, but I forgot about the rest of the scene. While it would help explain the troopers recoiling in surprise at the beginning, it doesn't cover the rest of the fight.

Quick reminder guys, according to Star Wars lore and yes, this is deep, the stormtroopers are the highest quality troops widely available used for special missions, whilst they're not the standard imperial infantry. The Star Wars writers don't get that there's a lot of them but not that many. Also the stormtroopers don't have bad aim, the writers are just feeding the memes. last point, the stomtroopers are widely misunderstood, please spread my message :>

Legit Gorn's death is so unceremonious it's literally a "blink and you'll miss it" moment. I watched Andor's 6th episode several times and have not once noticed that he got shot down immediately, always wondering what happened to him. It wasn't until watching this video that my question was answered.

Andor is what I was always hoping for. No Force or Skywalker baggage. And it takes its characters and story seriously, giving the story weight and gravitas. Great show!

I think Andor's strong writing and people responding to that proves that it doesn't matter if you have Ewan, Hayden, and more people watching your show. Bad writing never wins.

The reason Obi-wan doesn't use his lightsaber is simply because the director didn't want it being used before the Vader confrontation later in the episode, rather than for any logic reason for it not being revealed earlier.

How has this video not gotten more views this actually felt like a professional video and it is.

As far as consequences go, the first Obi-wan scene destroys the consequences _twice._ After Obi-wan takes out the Stormtroopers, _another_ batch of troopers show up immediately. No consequences. Then Tala immediately shoots them. No consequences, again. None of it meant anything!

Rewatch Andor: it gets better Rewatch Kenobi: it gets worse

The thing I liked about Andor the most was that it made this Science Fantasy world appear real. Instead of rolling out Stormtroopers at every occasion who are supposed to be a elite corp. selected for their cruelty, competitiveness, and teamwork ability Andor uses sector police and the regular Imperial Army, the soldier types follow their roles and where they would be placed. Combatants act as if they could die instead of wearing massive plot armor or cracking of one shot and then letting the protagonist kill them. It was the first time in a long time the Galactic Empire felt real and the Rebels had their work cut out for them. Extra: in Andor an old woman dies of pneumonia complications and a young man dies after being crushed and not getting medical attention for at least 15min, while in Kenobi Reva got ran through with a lightsaber and left for dead twice only to come back fine.

Kenobi doesn't treat you like an adult (I'm happy kids enjoyed all the flashy lights), whereas Andor treats you almost like an actual character in the story who has critical thinking skills and rewards your patience.

One thing I love about the heist episode is that once things get bad, a lot of the major characters get shot and you're given no time to process it, and in some cases, you might not even realize it happened. When the shooting started in the hangar, I loved not having so much as a second to internalize that tamaryn and gorn just died. Love that the show doesnt give much time if any to let the audience or the characters dwell on it or else theyll die too. It always hits the hardest when you forget about it entirely and after the shooting stops you get slammed with remembering who didnt make it...

You hit the nail on the head. Excellent breakdown. Andor feels like there’s something big at stake… that there’s consequences. That feeling builds throughout the show and never goes away. Kenobi was such a disappointment minus the Vader vs. Kenobi duel in the the last episode.

Gotta love that little Pitch Meeting reference 😂

Funny how Andor makes the Stormtroopers surprisingly scary. It deepens the Star Wars world since Stormtroopers are no threat against Jedi or Mandalorians but a terrible tool for oppressing the regular people.

Remember when Obi-Wan said: "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise"?

Geeze Andor was bloody incredible. I'm so pumped for the second season.

Excellent video. I was so relieved to see action scenes that made sense in Andor.

About the "Storm troopers cant aim meme" we go about. - If you watch New Hope. ObiWan comments the aiming skills of imperial stroopers. He explicitly says "only imperial troopers can make this shot" - Then there is the whole party of Imperial troops missing their targets. But Everyone forgets the scene/dialog that comes after. - VADER HAD placed a tracker on the ship Like, Leia and Han are escaping on. And Han or Leia explicitly says they are unsure of this 'escape'. - Troopers were never meant to shoot those three. They were supposed to put up a fight, but let escape, because Vader suspects it will lead the empire to the rebel base. Which is what happens on Empire Strikes Back immediately.

honestly, something i really liked in andor is how omnipresent is the shadow of death. you just feel the tension in those life and death situations. you just feel that rush, that survival instinct in the characters. the characters act as if death can really be upon them, as if they really care for their lives and have to fight for it. in kenobi and many other series, writers seem to have lost their grasp on reality, they seem to have forgotten that death exists or haven't faced it, or even the possibility. you can't even justify kenobi not wanting to kill stormtroopers off because he's a jedi and he cares for the living because life and death does not exist in that narration, it is fictitious, and thus, kind of sterile. (i mean, the fictitious can work sometimes if you just plan for the series to be fictitious and act accordingly. but you can't aim to be realistic and deal with topics such as trauma and it's consequences if you, writer, don't seem to fathom that death exists and can't use it to leave a definite mark on the story. i mean. if your character is free to do anything, have fucking fun with it and play around and just create something entirely new! just go and make something entirely escapist and imaginary, free of our earthly worries. at least present the series you write for what it is, and not as if you really dug up the psyche of the character and such, because in order to do that, you have to face reality, death, and changes.

Andor was acted, written, produced, shot with so much reverence for the source material, that now I'm hopelessly spoiled. I grew up with SW, and comics, but as a mature more discerning adult, I crave Andor's level of quality in my nostalgia fixes more often. Cringing hard at several similar Disney series, that just feel lazily rushed, flash with no soul. Just hope for a few well directed thoughtful intelligent non pandering SW and Marvel series, now and then. You served me a fine wine, now I have no desire for anything lesser.

Stormtrooper are very accurate. In the oh trilogy they killed ever non main character they faced.

Also, excellent use of a clip at 21:29. “‘Matter at hand.” 😂

Man you’re really putting out one banger after another respect

Somehow…Leia has returned.

If you want an example of a character acknowledging they are damned the best is the operative from Serenity. He is Luthien, he is just coming at it from the other direction. His "I am not going to live there" conversation with Mal is chilling.

Andor really is amazing and left an impact. Literally just today I was thinking about the scene where ol’kid gets crushed so senselessly. Yet his words go on to inspire like damn. It could all end so quickly that’s why you gotta get the message out. Meanwhile I honestly haven’t thought about any of the scenes/memes from obi wan until this video.

Another cool thing about how Andor overcomes the wannabe cops is that his first attack move is the most efficient thing he could have done. He manuevered his opponets into a position where, with a single headbutt, he temporarily incapacitates one of them and moves completely out of the line of fire of the blaster aimed at him. Two birds with one stone. Efficient, effective and believable.

"They see Leia climbing trees and think, 'yeah, we need a backup.'" So good.

What great about ANDOR is that it also had amazing spectacle as well. Andor is among the best television I’ve ever seen. I really felt like I was in the Star Wars universe

Great analysis! Can't wait to see the next part! 👍 And it's kind of funny on how the Kenobi series irritates you so much that you did tons of analysis 😂 I enjoyed each and every one of them

10:51 Bro had no chill for the pre mor guards 😭

There are hundreds of things Obi Wan could have done by using the Force to get out of the face scan and somehow the so-called Jedi Master just did took the dumbest course of action (and bad choreography allowed him to get away with it). Let's see... - Jedi Mind Trick both Stormtroopers so they blank out for a brief moment, THEN shoot the probe droid, then do whatever he needs to with the 2 troopers. - Force Push the probe droid into one of the troopers, Force Push the ankle of the other one to make him fall to the ground, shoot each of them. - Force Push the probe droid into the laser fence, Force Pull blasters from everybody's hands on the scene other than Obi Wan himself, then shoot them. - Actually enable Force Speed (Phantom Menace clearly established Obi Wan can do this) and fool around with them like Quicksilver does. - Whip out lightsaber and kill all of them including the probe droid in one quick slash. Fuck it.

Lol "getting back to the matter at hand" - I see what you did there.

Even if the writers wanted Obi-Wan to shy away from using lightsaber, their were a million ways to choreograph the scenes to have great action with weight and consequence. Make Obi-Wan be John Wick esque with the blaster + force powers, make him terrible with the blaster forcing him to get close (force speed & reflexes) and shoot at point blank ranges, hell Obi-Wan could have had an extendable baton and beat the shit out of people.

This video and your writing comparison between the two shows just earned you a sub :)

The scene when andor gets picked up by the storm tropers while hes on vacation going to the store is so good, it shows how unfair and terrifying it was to live in the empire, having your life ruined without any evidence is terrifying. And he actually gets put in prison he doesn't just cartoon fight his way thru a soldier unarmed 😂😂😂 it makes it real. for regular people in the empire life was shitty and they couldn't just mind trick, laser sword or telekinesis their way thru the empire they had to deal with the evil shits

Andor felt like it made real sense, with characters having agency, their choices mattering, and the gunfights feeling like you could die at any moment.

That scene in Obi-wan was just stupid...like for real. Let me tell you how smart and capable imperials from Andor would've handled this...ready? Let them go! Nope I'm not joking...here is the thing, stormtroopers are supposedly well trained in matters needed for a soldier. They can do roadblocks, checkpoints, being facist supressors etc. what they aren't trained for however is detaining or fighting a jedi, that's what the inquisitors, and for the tougher cases, Vader is for. So just stop at the checkpoint, give the person in command there a (the) sign, disable the barrier and let them drive on.... Aaaaaand just when they are far enough away, radio in their superior and report the suspicious individual. Then tell said superior that you send the probe droid to keep an eye on them, of course far enough away to not be noticed. The report "possible jedi sighted" will get signaled with premium-platin-express speed to Fortess Inquisitorious, where inquisitors will get dispatched (or if they do actually supsect this to be a master, or Obi-wan himself, get Vader involved) all while the suspect is, best case scenario, still oblivious. Once the inquisitors arrive (or vader) it's their problem to deal with. And no, I don't expect for every random, rank and file stormtrooper to be that smart. I do however expect those in command (for example ISP or Inquisition officers) to be smart enough to create such protocols to follow in a "Jedi scenario" situation.

7:30 whats worse about this, anytime they use the lightsaber in the dark they dont even CGI over it, its just what they use during filming (obviously the scene being discussed is in the light)

Fantastic video in general man, really nicely analyzed and I loved your explanation for why it matters at the end. Love to see more content!

Great analysis! I learned so much. Thank you!

This is a very good breakdown of how these two shows were made. Thank you for making it. Also: That Ryan George reference and the following Disney joke made me laugh in way few videos can :)

Master Samwise, you are not looking too much into the scenes. You are showing us exact details that we, viewers, notice with the back of our brain but can't fully process the thoughts into wholesome arguments we can put on the table. But yet, we definitely SEE when the scenes are bad, we just can't tell why. And there you are for that. Thank you.

The super easy barely an inconvenience bit was pure Gold

This seems relevant: Years ago I took a stage acting class at community college. Not trying to be an actor or anything, just needed 3 credits, so why not? Anyway, I performed a monologue in the class and I wanted to show how angry my character was. So I set up two chairs next to each other a table. I sat in one, and then when it was time for me to be angry I got up and backhanded the other chair across the stage. After I was done, my teacher complemented my delivery and expression, etc., but she asked me "Why was there a second chair?" My answer was something like "I needed it." And her response was to basically tell me to never have a prop there unless it makes sense for it to be there. Basically, never have things set up a certain way just for the convenience of the story or the characters. It needs to make sense for something to be there. And if it doesn't, then find another way to do it. If I learned that in COMMUNITY COLLEGE as a young 20-something, why do professional writers working on Kenobi not seem to get it?

A new hope had at least an explanaition for the stormtroopers incompetence, their leaders ordered them to let the princess escape

I remember in the hangar scene I was nervous for the entirety of the shootout because it felt dangerous, which should be the usual, but not in star wars XD

Andor is 100000000000000000000000 times better than any other Disney show in every way possible

This video was just amazing 🤩 keep up the good work 💪🏼

The humor here is so awesome... I don't know how often I had laughed so far, but the "Getting back to the matter at hand" cut at 21:10 was awesome :D As was the reference to "Barely an Inconvenience"

Thank you so much for this. Great analysis 👏👏👏

It was sad seeing Kenobi kill itself episode by episode, it had so much potential

Great video and analysis, keep em coming

This is a nice and detailed criticism of the scenes. I'm also glad that I wasn't the only who noticed this when the show came out. It earned you another subscriber. :)

Antagonists in Andor feel like people, because they are. Antagonists in Kenobi feel like the CGI background fodder in a Marvel movie

Love your work thanks for calling it out

What a great video! Keep up the quality.

Lol, Andor even made Storm Troopers look horrifying.

What an incredible analyses. You have a entertaining and educational channel and this series is one of my favorites. Keep this comparison coming! 😁 Mandalorian Season 1 vs Season 3 next?

Great vid Master Samwise, you made many excellent points.

11:38 the storm trooper in the watch tower is just standing there watching as his fellow soldier get killed. lmfao

So right. SO RIGHT. Excellent breakdown and comparison !

Andor reminds me of the quote from Futurama " when you do everything right people won't be sure you've done anything at all"

amazing video and you get all my love for the ryan george reference

Love the vid, made me laugh at the in depth analysis lmao. Andor treats the Empire like more of a threat. And the action, while still definitely flawed in some episodes, is still pretty well thought through. Andor took a step towards allowing stormtroopers to act like soldiers, but there were still some scenes that made me shake my head and laugh. Like the one guy getting spartan kicked off the tower lol, kinda takes you out of the moment for a few seconds. But I love how all the soldiers (army/ISB/stormtroopers) walk and act like they are trained/professional. Andor is one of my favorite shows, and its plot and story are the true amazing parts. It really helps when the action is more thought out and not mindless bullshit, aka kenobi, parts of BoBF, and parts of mando season 2. Also, I don't even remember finishing Kenobi. I watched some reviews and stuff between vader and obi wan on youtube and thats it. Dropped out after seeing that tower escape and 75 stormtroopers in a cave shooting at exposed rebels literally 15 feet away and missing. That was the last straw in this shitty show. What a waste of McGregor and Christiansen.

Andor was the best Star Wars, because the Empire is competent. I particularly liked the scene with Luthen Rael and the Interdictor Cruiser. The guys on the cruiser did everything right. They were calm and quiet. Orders were given and followed without excitement. They did everything right, and they still failed, and it made the scene just so much better.

I'm very excited for the other parts!

Worth noting that the cop who died from the headbutt was also drunk which greatly increases your chance of seriously injuring yourself when you fall since it screws with your reflexes.

I don't know why, but I smile every time when someone analyzes and critiques a show.

This can be summed up with Kenobi was a silly cash grab and Andor was made with love and care with meticulous attention to detail.

sometimes its hard to believe Kenobi and Andor are in the same universe

Brutal, los despedasaste totalmente. Gracias por el video.

Nice video man, we will watch your career with great interest

You had me locked in within 2 minutes. Great breakdown.

What makes the Stormtroopers even more ridiculous is something we saw those blasters have in the very first Start Wars movie to ever grace the screen. Those blasters have stun-modes! Some people might have argued that they didn't want to shoot Obiwan at the first sign of trouble, because they had orders to take him alive... but that is a non-issue if you remember Star Wars: A New Hope and how they captures Leia! Just put the blasters to stun and pull the trigger the very moment he does anything suspicious! No need to try to take a little girl hostage either: Just blast him with a stun-shot and DONE.

"What do you notice the characters in Andor doing during the fight scene?" Well, I'm noticing a LOT of them dying.

I am dreading the next shows and films will repeat the trend. -If the show is based on a new or obscure character then it's a masterpiece. -If the show is based on a fan favorite character returning then it will be a disaster.

Kenobi walking around with his lightsaber exposed is infuriating. If your trying to hide you would never let anyone see it

Long story short: With Rogue One, Andor and The Mandalorian, Disney shows that they „can Star Wars“ if they want, but as soon as a classic character is involved in a way that would demand them to be more than a side note in the storyline, they drop any trace of commitment to - or even actively work to demolish - the legacy. It’s almost as if they paid billions of dollars for the rights to Star Wars for a single specific purpose, which is to flip a giant finger towards George Lucas, the old cast and/or the fanbase.

Lol “back to the matter at hand”, I see what you did there, that’s too morbid 😂