Seeing you working the spear and emulating the God Of Spears Li Shu Wen...lol Thank you so much for this Taiwan series...brings back so many fond memories....

Thank you so much. I would continue watching if the series was even longer. :)

Going slightly off topic. Theres a mysterious "Chin Na Tiger Style" video series on youtube. I hope in the future you can investigate and do a series about it. This style involves a lot of take downs and rolling on the floor. Love this Taiwan series! 😍

You remembered. Wow. I asked you if you ever got a chance to find authoring Bajiquan to please do a video and look and what you’ve done. I will support anything and everything you do everytime I can,

@@xaviersmith957 haha, I told you bro

Salam dari Sukoharjo. Senyum dan gesture Master Su mengingatkan saya akan almarhum paman. Paman saya seorang pendekar silat.

Thanks a lot!

Don’t tell me, I lived, studied and train 27 yrs in Taiwan, 2 in PRC. But now happily retired back in EU.

Where did you study? I lived up on Yang Ming Mountain...

@@francoiswilliams, I lived in Jingmei, near Taida. Then in Gardencity, near Wulai/ Xindian, where I wrote my doctoral dissertation. Later I moved down south to work as a prof at a national university. I still own a house in Qishan/Meinong (Hakka area).

@@taiwandeutscher Oh ok sounds cool... I came to Taiwan in 1990, and left like early 2000... You're in Germany now? I'm back in South Africa since last year...

@@francoiswilliamsI arrived in autumn of 1982, on and off for studies in Munich/Berlin/Beijing/Taibei. And yes, now retired back in Bavaria, practicing in the morning, gardening in the afternoon. I‘m loving it!

I found his claim very interesting that Pigua is hidden in Baji. They often teached together and are very complementary maybe once it was one system.

@@Gieszkanne nah baji is bear/tiger boxing while pi gua is snake/eagle boxing, they are developed differently. It is to understand that pi gua are only used the elements seen to be fit to complement the style as to bridge gaps, as such it is hidden. of course you can think of it to first learn pi gua too and then combine it with straight line baji methods. Thing about kung fu is, that people see it as a whole structure, which it is not, it is a constructed thing of small modules which can be replaced or interchanged to expose different permutations of fighting as you need it. You know in chinese thought only dead things are stiff and rigid, while living things need to be flexible, changeable and flowing ... same with kung fu.

That’s just your prejudice. It’s entirely ok to travel there, I know several people who go annually and it’s not nearly as expensive as the big Shaolin and Wudang schools, actually pretty affordable. If you’re interested, I would highly recommend you go, since I practice the style from there myself. Pigua is not a focus there, they have a Pigua form, but it’s interwoven into the Bajiquan forms and thus applications and fighting strategies already, it doesn’t really need to be practiced separately.

@@Livingtree32 SHIT FOR 🧠

So kind of do not want to learn the shortened Han Chinese version of Liu Yun Qiao, but rather learn the System of Hui from Wu Lian Zhi baji lineage and Wang Zhihai Pi Gua lineage? I think this should be manageable.

Glad you enjoyed it!

For sure, it was good to focus on the basics training for a whole video. Next episode is all about application, so a nice mix

Thanks for watching! I’m not sure if ALL the military train it or what, but if they did it would likely be a modified version without forms and stuff

I love spear, will have to do a whole video on it next time

Liu Yun qiao was apparently renowned for his spear. So more on this would have been interesting.

In Taiwan they mostly use that heavy dark wood, not very flexible, called Zhang‘er. Quite different to waxwood poles.

@@taiwandeutscher thank you for the great info. Could you help to write Zhanger in traditional text or any links to the wood name. So I can look it up. Thanks in advance

@@phuongtrangdo, it is 丈二. The wood mostly used is 九層木 , also some use the air roots of 榕樹, but the production of Zhang‘er with that wood is very complicated and takes a long time, a kind of secret.

For sure! Was hard filming with that rain constantly starting and stopping

I think there must be for sure

Hi Daniel. In Hongkong gibt es eine Pigua Linie, die behauptet Pigua sei ursprünglich eine Form aus einem größeren Tongbei System gewesen, die dann zu einem eigenen Stil ausgebaut wurde. Inwiefern das stimmt, weiß ich nicht, aber zumindest steht die Idee im Raum!

pi gua is at least three to five hundred years older than tong bei, but tongbei got reorganised at the beginning of the 20th century as such including aspects of pi gua, you can compare it to how muay thai was reformed

I mean they did say that their secret is the dog skin, which I haven't heard before. Which is interesting, the herbology of martial arts is the least talked about or the least adhered to part of the art. Most people throw the herbology away as nonsense, but if you ever see people who were trained with a complete understanding of that herbology, its a different kind of person that is not only healthy for the duration of their lives but have incredible long-term gains as well.

The herbalogy is a big secret and are usually reserved for the indoor students they deem most loyal after observation that they are also folks of good character.. The external dei da jow formula as well as the internal trauma pills and medicine plus qi gong practice as well as the meridian pressure points and believe it or not, art or calligraphy to help balance out the martial/violent aspect of it.. I wish that I had stayed with my shifu long enough and was dedicates enough but I ended up with muay Thai and BJJ and wrestling... I don't regret it but wish I had kept up with gong fu for long term health aspect as well as developing better Jin and internal power... I mainly practice Taiji now and BJJ but have been following Will and watching the different masters basic yet healthy cultivation bits and practicing here and there... This video brought back Kao, for me...

We do dog skin. It more or less can take the place of other medicine like dit da jow. Buuut... it's also sort of a sympathetic magic sort of explanation as to why. Does it maybe help with conditioning? Subjectively, anecdotally, I think so. How? I have no idea.

you have certain components like vitamins in some animals that have the right composition to suppress inflammation apart from dogs , there is to mention the australian emu or the swiss groundhog. But it is not really buddhist or shaolin to harm animals. Since Baji is a muslim descendand they probably do not have any concern about this

My friend Ghys has learnt Taiwanese Hung Gar, but I didn't film any. You could check his channel Wushu Quest to see if he has covered it

​@@MonkeyStealsPeach I'll definitely check it out. Thank you

Sorry, this video was filmed back in February

Thanks John, yes he teaches at the Wu Tan hq in Taipei. It should come up on google maps if you just search 武壇

Master Su Yu Chang? Are you a student from one of his many branches? I was taught by one of his European students that was in the U.S back in early 90s for three years and then met GM Su in NY a few times with his seminars... I couldn't believe the power master Su exhibited in that small frame...crazy power and agility..

I studied under Master Su for about a year back in New York. He's known as lightning hands, not really for his power.

Yea

Yes, its Qi Ma Shi… literally horse riding stance

I've never heard of Baji being taught at Shaolin

@@MonkeyStealsPeachThe only thing they are related to is the monk Lai, who himself is a myth in the origin of Baji. Wu Zhong, the first ever practitioner of Baji didn't take the credit of creating this martial art, instead he claimed this was taught by a rebellion disguised as a monk called "Lai". When Shaolin re-established its martial art collection after WW2, an ex-monk of Shaolin-Su Fa(素法), returned his knowledge as well as many other martial arts after learning from different masters during the wars. Baji was one of them, but Su Fa also added a story with his Baji, that the very first master Lai once travelled to Shaolin and practiced with the monks. Hence the Shaolin collected the Baji, and the Baji integrated a few clinching/joint techniques from Shaolin. But that's a myth based on another myth. Su Fa himself learned Baji from Wu's lineage （6th gen master Wu XiuFeng).

Yes basically

I believe it's a mistranslation as those making the video misunderstood as well. First of all, I think the pelt you see at 9:08 is surely a type of fur but I don't think it's a dog's fur (too thick, more like a wolf). Second, the pelts aren't necessary for this way of conditioning your hands, which exists in many other forms of Wushu such as Wing Chun. I know in Wing Chun you start with beans then progress to sand then iron sand. I am guessing the pelts here work the same way. You gradually remove the layers the pelts as your hands become more "conditioned". What the Mast really said was "狗皮膏藥" (literal translation: dog skin patch medicine.) According to Wiki, it really was herbal paste sitting atop of dog skin in the past (for its elasticity and ability to keep warm). Nowadays, you can get this patch, which really is like a Salonpas or IcyHot patch or Tiger Balm but more potent in terms of healing factor, in any Chinese traditional clinics in Taiwan. It's a mix of herbal paste that sit on top of a gauze cut to order and applied to where the Chinese Medicine doctor think it needs to go on your body to improve circulation and heal bruises. So what Master said was after you conditioned your hands, you will use "狗皮膏藥" to heal the microfracture and bruises on your hands. Wing Chun does a similar thing by rubbing with "藥酒" (medicine wine), which uses basically the same ingredients of the paste but they are soaked in typically a yellow wine for certain amount of days. You then dip your whole forearms in it after the conditioning session. Now, each style of wushu is suppose to have their own secret formula for the patch or wine that's supposed to help it be extra "potent". That's what I heard, but can't verify this. Most Chinese traditional medicine stores/clinics should be able to help you make this paste or wine. Hope this helps. I am not so sure about the "hand/fore arm conditioning" personally. I think it really just dulls your sensitivity to pain so you can strike harder than you normally can. Also, because of the constant microfracture and healing from it, the theory is your bones will become harder and therefore allows you to strike with an iron like fist. Again, I am not so sure about that. I started the process in my younger days but ultimately thought it wasn't a good idea. I do think, the constant striking against a hard object was helpful in "focusing the strength of your strike" though.

@@duckwings6245 Dude, they're dog pelts.