They talk about losing relevance, but Jacksepticeye is in the unique position where he’ll just be able to slowly transform into the pure chaos and content potential that is “ old Irish man”, honestly he’d probably gain a ton of followers if he were to reach that magical threshold

You guys should have matpat on the podcast before he retires EDIT: HE SAID HE’LL BE ON THE PODCAST IN HIS FINAL THEORY VID

he did FOOD he did FASHION he did FILM now its time he did FUN

You either retire a Matpat or stay long enough to see yourself become the Completionist

Sean: “I just think you’re a bad parent if you have a kid and you’re still on KZfaq” Felix: 👁️ 👄 👁️

I agree when Séan says he thought MatPat was very unlikely to quit, because it looked like he had everything figured out. I truly believed MatPat would be like the internet's Queen Elizabeth. He's just a constant. Always there. Always theorizing. Throughout an ever-changing digital landscape. (Admittedly, I wish he still would be) I just picture him theorizing about the hit new game *Lorp Shlorp 3* in 2029, and its non-existent lore... and loving every minute of it...

it was kind of surreal hearing seán say "i texted him afterwards" like he can just text matpat whenever he wants edit: alright so obviously I don't think of them as gods or more than normal people. I'm not a weirdo just for thinking it's a bit unreal that theyre texting when they're from different parts of youtube in my mind. they're just people. and my god I did not think people would berate me for making a comment about it

Sean: "You're bad parent if you're still doing KZfaq and you have a kid" Meanwhile CinnamonToastKen having 6 kids....

I actually got into Sean's videos more recently in comparison because he doesn't scream anymore. He talked about that in the video, and I am sure I am not the only one. They worrying about falling off, but at the same time I think there is a lot of people just discovering their content or rediscovering them because they have matured and they content has actually gotten better for some.

'I'm not going to ride on a magic carpet!’ he hissed. ‘I’m afraid of grounds!’ ‘You mean heights,’ said Conina. ‘And stop being silly.’ ‘I know what I mean! It’s the grounds that kill you.' - Terry Pratchett

Its really frustrating hearing Sean have to deal with KZfaq forcing him to focus on one thing and NOT split his content because less views or algorithm or whatever tf, because i love watching everything he comes out with, like the tiktoks or scary games and the 3 hour videos. That's really dumb that KZfaq works that way, as a creator you should be able to make whatever content you want and still get the same amount of views, it's YOUR channel.

I hope it’s not selfish of me to say that I hope you don’t quit soon. As soon as I was finished MatPats farewell video I turned to my partner and said “I hope Jack and Ethan and Mark don’t quit because of this” but of course when you decide it’s the right to we’ll all be with you ❤

I am sad but happy to see MatPat go, what is bothering me is seeing a lot of other people go on their knees and pray for other KZfaqrs like you guys not to go next. Personally, watching Unus Anus has taught me to let things go way better than I have used to. Looking back at the memories make me happy, maybe a little bittersweet. Holding onto something that is inevitable is what makes things hurt way more than it should. Yes, shed those tears. But don’t put pressure on other KZfaqrs that have been giving us free content for YEARS, because one day they will leave and that’s not something my that won’t happen.

Matpat was genuinely a huge part of my childhood. I'm super happy for all the youtubers who are retiring and I wish them the best... but ngl I feel old as heck (I'm 18 btw)

It is incredible that both of you talk so openly about your counseling experiences. I am a new counselor (in my internship, but I will be licensed within the year!), and one of the most prevalent issues I still find in the field is the stigma surrounding mental health treatment that keeps many people from getting help. I will be working with addictions, which includes gaming addiction, and having prominent KZfaqrs talk about their counseling so casually is a great step to motivate others to seek treatment. It is an excellent way to normalize mental health and how helpful it is to talk with someone professionally. I genuinely appreciate your willingness to share that you are in counseling, from both a personal and professional viewpoint.

Hope you’re doing okay jack 🌻

Ethan, you HAVE to give us a recap of the skydiving experience on the podcast after you do it. And don't be nervous at all, the plane ride up is the scariest part. The fall is perfection. I went skydiving for my 18th birthday and it was the most transcendent experience of my life. It was amazing and I hope for the same for you.

That bums me out that KZfaq has gone in this direction. I prefer creators that have all types of content. Long game plays, reacts, movie shorts. That makes me come back over and over.

Had a hunch this would be on the Leaky News. Gutebye Internet still hurts even after nearly a week of being posted. Sadge to hear the Theory gloves are coming off, theories won't be the same without him. I'm sure the new hosts will do their best to keep the channels rolling. They've already been testing it out for a long while now. Lots of KZfaqrs have been leaving the platform, can't imagine who else will be on the list. It'll be a rough pod to watch. Danke for sharing, Hope everyone is doing well. Stay Leaky Bros 🧠 😎 👊

Can no one else quit for at least a month please we need time to emotionally recover

Sean and ethan please don't quit.... ignore youtubes algorithm crap!! I watch everything you both put out because your doing it. You bring something different to content and your personalities match your videos what they are!!!

MatPat's hanging up his signature red leather jacket. I find it interesting that The Stupendium's Game Theory song collab began production in 2021, when Matt started thinking about Plan: Goodbye Internet. It makes the song hit differently, knowing that they all knew MatPat's retirement was coming soon. Sean, please text Matt about Toy Theory, it's a platinum idea for the team if they're dealing with burnout and need new topics! Or you could keep it for you and Ethan. 😈

Great deal of memorable KZfaqrs have been leaving, Matpat has been one of the most painful ones. He's done so much for the community, it'll be strange when the time comes for him to hang up the Theory Gloves. Least he got to be in WatchMojo, what an gift that must've been for him. Tack for the leaks & Skrattars during these tough times, Take Care Mates 🐺 🐾

I'm happy for MatPat. He's done his time, and left when he felt he was ready.

I don’t watch MatPat, but I was thoroughly impressed with Ethan’s and Trey’s Vlogs on the subject of his retirement. Love you, Seán and Ethan! Stay Leaky! PS: It’s a shame that people still can’t tell the difference between Silly Seán and Serious Seán. He’s obviously joking about the KZfaqr Parent remark! 🤦‍♀️ 🧠👀🧠👀🧠👀

Jacksepticeye "you're a bad parent if you are still doing youtube when you have a kid." Bob over here having a kid.

Mat’s grandpa Pat analogy hurt me hard, because I lose a couple grandparents and my other grandpa isn’t around because he’s in a city in a hospital So yeah I don’t get to see him often 🥺 I’m going miss Mat but I’m happy for him, also I can’t wait for his IP’s especially the game and lo-fi channel

WAKE UP BABE BRAIN LEAK JUST POSTED

Just came on here to say, I love current Sean way more than old Sean. He seems more real and genuine, his reactions feel like they're his own and not just an act to keep up a persona. He just feels... really confident with himself and is making himself happy versus worrying about making the internet happy and like he's having FUN when filming. I know he'll retire one day but I hope we still get a few more years of content from grown up Jack Septiceye.

Boys, I swear to DOG! Don't leave us this year. I can't take more heart break. 😢

I understand the feeling of the "when is it time to quit" or "when is it time to change things up". I turned 30 in December and it made me think of how I've been working since I turned 18 in the same industry. I could develop and improve myself constantly and had a goal to work towards, but now that I am on top of what my industry has to offer, it's kind of tough to find a new direction again. I am kind of burned out of my work, but the consequences of changing everything up are so intimidating that I am unsure to put it through or instead try to find a new direction. I can't even understand how older generations were able to work 10-20 years in the same freaking business and be perfectly content.

I was watching older game grumps the other day and I was just like "these ten minute episodes are weeeeeird". I remember being okay with it at the time of when ten minute uploads were the norm but rewatching said episodes in 2024 I was just like "how did I not hate this"

Hearing Sean talk about wanting to do different kinds of content on his one channel but KZfaq ssying that wouldn't work really hit me because I recently made the choice to fragment my channel into multiple channels and I was so worried about whether it was the right thing to do or not, but hearing what he said, I definitely think I made the right choice

MatPat leaving is so upsetting.

6:00 I feel there's more than the work burden to MatPat's retirement, though. He could at least remain on GTLive indefinitely (his more casual channel, which is not scripted), but it seems he's gonna be there only "until the end of summer". Looks like he just wants to do more creative stuff, like making his own IPs (I guess he's tired of being the "lore hunter", and wants to be the "lore creator" now). He's mentioned some kind of "lore-fi" ARG idea, and an animated series inspired by Gravity Falls called (Welcome to) The Envie (so it's not gonna be exactly a retirement, but a career pivot). 16:26 "What do we do now? Will we ever see you again? It's like I never hang out with MatPat, anyway" That's just because you don't watch GTLive: I'm pretty sure that's exactly how GTLivers felt after hearing the news. 17:25 "We're probably thinking about it more than we're not anymore" Then stop thinking about it! Neither of you are in the same situation as MatPat (having to juggle 5 channels, 4 of which require research/scripting), so the comparison makes no sense. Look at Charlie/penguinz0 instead, who has been doing youtube since 2007 (that's 17 years), and he's made it clear he's no intention of stopping since he's having fun. 1:22:40 "We don't need to be quitting youtube, we need to be pivoting" Now that's more like it 👍 I'd even say that one of the reasons Charlie is motivated is the fact he pivots all the time (people in the comments sometimes joke about how Charlie does/tries to do everything, and no one is ever sure what the next video could be about).

its sad seeing matpat leave the channel, ive been watching him for almost 10 years i got into watching him from markiplier and the theory channels wont be the same anymore, but im happy for him to focus more on his family.

matpat was already doing youtube when he became a video analyst! he worked at a company called defy media (the old parent company of smosh) which went under in 2019 (or 2018 i forgot) for money laundering or something similar, but he stopped working there beforehand!!!

What a great video to wake up and try to book a doctors apointment too

Guys just do what you want and make videos that you love, you both have loyal subscribers who go to your chanel to watch videos and will continue to regardless of the algorithm. If this ends up making you not happy that's fine but youtube will constantly change and cycle so don't forget why you started uploading ❤

Thank you for being willing to trigger warning self-harm. I’ve commented on a couple of Jack’s vids about it, and i just want to acknowledge and appreciate the willingness.

I went sky diving 17 years ago. I'm 36 now and was 19 when I went. BIGGEST thrill of my life, you don't even feel like your falling except the wind making the corners of my mouth touch my ears and the ground getting bigger. I jumped at 14,000 feet. It's a total of about 8 mins from plane to ground and you free fall for about a minute and I kicked myself in the face when I pulled the chute cord(rip cord). But it was the greatest thing I've ever done. I DOUBKE DOG DARE YOU GUYS TO DO AN EPISODE OF BRAIN LEAK SKY DIVING. LOL

Eef: "it's a sad day. MatPat is retiring" Also Eef: *deleted one of the greatest channels ever*

Its wild to think that im growing old with these guys, im in my 30's too and have been watching youtube since it came to be, their like old friends that dont know who i am lol. honestly i hope they continue for a long time and pass down their channels to their kids to continue the legacy or at the very least come back every now and again to say hi.

Matpat created a legacy with youtube- now he starts a new one, being a dad

Sean: "You're bad parent if you're still doing KZfaq and you have a kid" Meanwhile: h20 delirious, nogla, pewdiepie, romanatwood, cinnamintoastken, moo, timthetatman, RhettandLink, and thousands more...

Honestly the thought of my favourite CCs retiring over the next few years is bittersweet af, I've been watching you all for over half my life so it'd sort of be like having a friend or something move away. I can't help but get teary eyed at the thought, but at the same time I'd be happy for you. Sure I'll be ugly crying with the announcement, but it'll be a happy, proud ugly cry. And unless you're Unus Annusing your channels I could always just watch videos again for old time's sake. Btw, I saw someone say they think Seán should just publish his analogies in a book or have them illustrated or something and I really agree with that. Shit's unironically poetic as fuck, I'd read the shit out of that.

I said ouch out loud when Sean said: my parents didnt have youtube and they fucked me up.

I'm gonna miss him even though he's not really going- it still feels so strange and sad-

Ethan saying that Resident Evil 8 is his current fav game as of late while being vaguely dressed as Ethan Winters as well is just funny to me

This was fun I hope the skydiving goes well and nice job you two much love to you both 💚💙

I know the big talk is MatPat retiring and all, but hearing 'destroy your swamp ass' during an ad read had me laughing hard

this is my fav podcast by far!

MatPat would hang up his Lore Jacket.

23:21 so many ads I’ve half expected Sean to yell for Gab like “EVELYN!! WHATS MY ODOR SCORE?!?!?”

maaannn.. y'all dudes are cool. love ur brainz and always wish you the best. you've got good heads on your shoulderses. keep on keepin on.

The Goodyear blimp is actually open for everyone, it costs a lot to fly it but you can, its not only open to the Goodyear workers

Great show!greetings from Finland 😊

As an starting creator and hearing the "Oh you should concentrate in ONE niche instead of many to help the algorithm yara yara ya..." is so demotivating. I want to make videos of whatever I find intriguing and not do one topic only.

Matpat does writes for the theorist channels and now him and Stephanie are just going to be the CEO and Write for the four new hosts. I personally think if Matthew Patrick trust the four new hosts that he works with. then I trust him. Tom is new host of gametheorist, Lee is new host of the film theorist and Amy is the new host of the style theorists and Santi is new host of food theorists and at least until summer he still host GTlive his Livestream channel. He doesn't know what is going to happen to GTlive but he wants someone to not change the channels. He wants someone to sit on the couch play games and react to their subreddit and stuff he does on Live Streams. Do you think the four new channels host can be as good? I mean I know they can't fill his shoes but they can do good. I even saw some theory made by Amy and Tom I think ok. I am 30 years old and I watch the game theorist and GTlive when I was in highschool. Do you guys think he will be in the fnaf movie two and three maybe act in video games like Sean did? I would love to see him voice in poppy playtime.

with Rubik's cubes some of the biggest reasons people can solve them so fast is practice, memorization of algorithms, fast fingers/good finger tricks and good solutions. Luck can play a big part of it but most of the time it just comes down to the cuber solving the cube. An example is the world record single holder Max Park didnt really get a super lucky scramble he just had a really nice execution super fast fingers and some luck. A good way to test the skills of the cuber is to make them do an average of 5 (ao5) where you take the best time and the worst time and remove them from the average then average the three remaining times. This will test your skill across 5 different scrambles and will remove any major luck factors. so if max park and me did an ao5 with the same scrambles he would easily beat me because he averages 6 seconds or less and I average 9 to 13 seconds. How we find out our usual average is just by averaging our last 100 solves or so and taking that number as our usual average this will show our most recent performance and give us our current average.

Matpat would obviously be hanging up his jacket!

Great, thoughtful episode. Being hit with the sultry outro directly after the balloon talk was so jarring though I had to laugh 🤣

Was waiting for this one. ❤

I totally understand your fear of heights. I am the same, I went on a curse once and just going up the ramp to get on the ship was nerve wreaking. I inched up standing in the middle so I couldn't see the ground. I knew that the ramp was solid but that did not stop my brain from saying 'You are not on solid ground and you should not be up here'. The wind could be still and I will still feel like it's rushing around me.

Goodyear used to build non-ridgid airships (the technical term for blimps) with Zeppelin. But they're mainly used for PR. In other news, the Goodyear plant near me makes the largest tire they produce, which is about 13 ft tall!

I hope there's a new episode next week

46:36 I LOVE HOW HE REFERENCED THE "Squeltches wetly" OF STRANGER THINGS SUBTITLES LOL

I hope that they know that we watch their content for them. Even if I don't know or care about what they're doing I'll still play it in the background to have a familiar comfortable voice around. It helps my mind focus on what I'm doing just having them around.

I remember realizing that I was afraid of heights. I was lying on the ground outside and looking at the sky. Nothing was in my field of view and I suddenly felt like I was floating. My heart leaped out of my chest and I didn't understand why until I did it again

Are you telling me we could’ve had an RTGame Jacksepticeye City Skylines 2 crossover? Cause that would’ve been dope

This is a crazy video to drop at 2am

07 to matpat. Also wanted to comment on how Sean was talking about doing all these different things on his channel and how it "splits up his audience ", I personally watch all of those videos!! I love seeing Sean do many things on his channel.

When MatPat retired I knew 2024 wasn't gonna be the year

I think it's hard. Being a long time follower of someone and losing them is a complicated, one sided, relationship. When you've been following someone as long as some of us have been following you and watching you grow. We grow intimately attached to you, or who you project to us. We care and we love you...and one day, that relationship will end. You will retire, move on to the next stage of your life, and we will be monumentally happy for you. But we will have to grieve you, grieve losing you, and it's going to hurt. Honestly, I panic a little thinking about it. But we'll be okay. Quit when you're ready and we will support and praise you.

"Hes taking off MAD bras"😭😭😭

I can't believe that this is the last time that anyone will ever talk about or remember matpat, rest in peace

Hope Ethan had a fun time skydiving~! When you're freefalling it's like you're FLOATING! It's such a surreal experience :3c

I’ve been skydiving and I’m just dying at the whole bit that is Ethan jumping from a plane😂

Dude i laughed so hard i choked at the Just a theory! part 😂

Getting everyone together to demand something with Bloodborne could work, it kinda worked with Arlo asking for a paper Mario Thousand Year Door remake.

Its so good to see Sean in a video since last year. T_T

Awesome podcast jack and Ethan dropblikec

My favorite game ever is Pokemon Emerald. I can't ever get bored of replaying that game. It makes me so happy and comfy. Probably completed it over 30 times

i think i understand sean better now - he dosnt have a fear of falling . just the sudden stop at the bottom XD

Sad leak 😢, Btw a fear of something is a learned thing thats why people fear heights and some dont

Seans fear of heights actually makes sense, its probably a phobia. I have a phobia of bee's, I'm not scared of being stung at all but the sound of a bee can and has made me cry. There often isent much resson to phobias, its just a weird innate fear

At the end when Ethan talking about his favorite game just depends, i agree with him on that- i have favorites in all different genres, not just games, movies/series/anime/etc lol

I wonder if the way Seán is afraid of heights also applies to ocean depths. I know that's a huge thing for me is when I can't see what's underneath me in water where I can't easily reach the bottom that's terrifying as well as looking down from a great height with no walls or anything to ground you. Maybe they're completely unrelated, who knows.

I love how the LED Sign behind Ethan just says "Knarc" when it's flipped

Had no idea this channel was a thing till rn… where the hell have I been? To miss out on all this 😭

I love them having a picture of a thumbnail in the thumbnail

I think everybody's got some kind of limit. if that's just a year or 80 depends on the person, but whether that content is popular or not depends on the people and how they change. All anyone can hope for is ending up on a high note.

one minute ago hell yea, i just finnished my school project and have 3 hours of school left so i pulled up youtube and look at that new brainleak

When they brought up hot air balloons all I could think about was the mom who was stranded in a hot air balloon bit on the Amanda show 😂😂

i unironically learn so much from this podcast (blimp weight, for example)

The skydiving section was fekking wild xD

43:04 rhysand and feyre in (if i remember correctly) a court of frost and starlight :)

I am so here for the comeback of blimps

They have a very good point. I honestly think that upcoming KZfaqrs will have a hard time getting big and getting an audience. The algorithm is constantly changing and it's hard to keep up with especially when you also have a life outside of KZfaq. Nowadays you have to stick to making one type of content and like Jack said if you split it up and divide it then KZfaq won't recommend you as much.

Sean being afraid of the Vast from TMG is honestly a vibe. Can't explain why it makes so much sense to me as soon as he said "It's not heights, not really"