That Patreon jingle is gonna be clutch

The final boss IS playing with cheat codes! Emerl's points cap out before getting enough to equip all the Ultimate moves like the final boss has.

Rouge: "I bet you can't KO me 10 times without using Special Attacks." Emerl: "Little do you know, I only use Pathetic Attacks!"

Tfw your own moves are so unremarkable Rouge can't even classify them as "special" for her own rules

sonic battle, but tails doesnt know how to fix a gizoid

When I played through the game when I was 5 I didn't even know how to install the upgrades on Emerl so I kinda did the challenge from my own stupidity.

As a kid, I got to the part where you have to dodge Rouge for 2 minutes before I realized upgrading Emerl was possible. Safe to say the game got substantially easier after that.

It would've been SO funny if for the final boss you fought Emerl in his unupgraded state lmao

Cream is actually the most powerful character in the game outside of customized Emerl; she has an infinite as you found, you can juggle people with the tornado special, she has a double jump, she heals extremely quickly, and her aerial B move comes out SO fast, incredibly easy to spam

"When Eggman gets knocked up..." Good God man, phrasing

I’ve never actually played Sonic Battle but seeing the sprites in this video made me remember some fan made sonic browser games YEARS ago that I used to play quite often. Ahh nostalgia

So, the thing about Emerl's base special attacks. Most of them don't actually have the internal "special move" tag applied to them. They do regular damage with no special properties. That is why the ground trap and the air shot will completely bypass the auto guard function of the npcs, as well as not trip Rouge's "no special attack" rule. If you use an actual special move ability, she does stop that fight. Now the actual reason for this is interesting. Consider Sonic's special moves. His shot and trap attacks launch projectiles, which deliver the related properties of their special attack types. If you use Sonic's shot attack like you would use emerl's, its ball form ALSO ignores autoguard. My guess is that they specifically coded it so that Sonic's spinball will always hurt an opponent who isn't ACTIVELY guarding, and Emerl just got the gift of handmedown.

the special that you don't chose is used up as a defense option. that means you automatically block whenever you are hit with the corresponding special. for instance getting hit by an shot special with shot as defense will block that move regardless if you press l or not which is why at 16:21 gamma blocks emeral's special in mid air.

Rouge lying is in character ngl

The thing about blocking specials is that whenever you equip your specials, you choose 1 to be immune to. That's why some cpus blocked your specials in the air.

I actually kind of did this as a kid, unintentionally. I knew I could customize Emerl but I didn't know you could tab over to edit his attacks, so all I did was edit his first tab (movement, jump, guard, etc.) and thought that was just how the game was. I ended up figuring out that Emerl's default ground shot attack can actually KO an opponent in 4 hits and it never counted as a special move. This was how I beat the whole game, with just that one ground shot attack over and over. XD

i accidentally did (most of) this as a kid, because i didn't know how to customize emerl, so i was stuck with his crap start moves. you have no idea how unfair i thought it was when he was the final boss and was way stronger than when i used him

I've been playing Dark Souls and Sonic Battle for over a decade each. And I only just noticed Club Rouge's central bumper looks like Solaire's shield.

The reason why sometimes enemies block specials in the air is because when you're choosing your special, the one that isn't chosen becomes an auto block for that special. So if you didn't choose POW, then you will auto block every POW special no matter what. What's interesting, though, is how you can fool the system. Namely with Emerl's and Sonic's ground shot. Because it's a rip-off of Sonic's, it runs on the same mechanics, and it just so happens that what the auto guard blocks is everything after the energy wave from the shot is generated. It doesn't consider anything else as part of the special attack. Which means that when Emerl and Sonic use their ground shot and attacks an enemy the first couple frames of the attack where they get in a spin ball and is about to release an energy wave (that doesn't exist in Emerl's case) doesn't get auto blocked. But because it's still part of the special attack animation, while the auto guard ignores it, the one hit K.O special bar doesn't. It sees it as part of the attack and thus kills the enemy in one hit even though the auto block should protect them.

Ah yes, one of the first pieces of media to make me physically cry. A favorite. ...I've missed you, Emerl.

Its cool to see a sonic battle challenge. We need more challenges with underrated games like this

13:45, you can justz exit the battle and it will count as you evading her for 5 min, no need to do that battle.

20:10 They don't block Emerl's set move because they need an explosion to block it. Same reason why Sonic's (and by extension Emerl's) first hit of their shot attack can hit the opponents but they block the second one. Also, you had to look up Emerl's (and by extension Sonic) infinite crit attack exploit, where you use their air shot and just before sending the wave you hit the ground. Like that, you insta kill the opponent and keep the crit meter. Would have made the battles go much easier and with much less planning and strategy making, all down to execution. (Strategy taken from a Speedrun)

"he needs to be himself" dude his starter skillset is malformed capture of sonic lol

Chaos and pain Edit: emerl apparently has Marth range from melee

I'm pretty sure rouge doesn't lie about special moves(I remember her stopping battle in regular playthrough), maybe devs took pity and don't consider default emerl specials as specials?

Finally is someone mad enough to try this insane thing. I love Sonic Battle, but boy do I have some problem with pacing and the goddamn grinding. Sega please make a remake of this game

Sonic Battle posting, instantly subbing

Yeah Base Emerl's specials _Literally Do Not Count As Specials_ except for the ohko charge mechanic. I thought base Ground Set was flat-out Broken when I was younger. If you used a proper special from an actual character in the 10ko Rouge fight, it'd end as properly implied.

As someone who's never really played somic games your videos are a great way to find out about sonic games existing

I did this when I was a child because I didn't understand how to update Our robot boy 😂. I used mostly all of these strategies back in the day, thank you for reminding me of this part of my childhood

22:27 the heartattack would be if you had any special that did an explosion/projectile it only stops you from those attacks. Funny enough if you use rouge special kick I think it wont count which is an oof.

I'd like to thank you for undertaking questions that are both concievably possible while also being difficult enough that it is genuinely uncertain as to whether you'll succees

Rouge really tried hitting you with a gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss, huh?

So, the thing about Emerl's base specials is that they're incomplete versions of Sonic's Specials, everyone knows that. The reason you were probably able to get away with using them so much is because Sonic's Shot and Grounded Set Specials have two components: The drop, and the actual projectile/bomb. Even on Sonic, the drop component (Where he's revved up or flicking his wrist to drop the bomb) has an active hitbox which functions bizarrely. They're simultaneously considered as both Normals and Specials, because the game will treat them as normals for 99% of instances, but they can still become Oneshots with the Super Meter. Since Emerl's copies don't have the actual projectile/explosive, they exploit the system just by being incomplete. The only other moves in the game that have this kind of property are most hits of Emerl's unique Combo Specials (The ones where he'll use one character's jab combos in a turbo loop before ending on one of their finishers/specials)

12:22 If you quit the fight, Rouge thinks you've succesfully evaded her for the entire fight Fun fact about cosmetic skills: the E-102/Gamma stance actually makes you explode The reason some specials are blocked midair is because opponents chose that category as their 3rd (ie block special). Killing a COM with a special will have 'em switch to it as their defensive to block you. HOWEVER Emerl has at least 1 nerfed special (maybe 2 iirc) that don't even trigger the autoblock!!

This game was my favourite when i was younger. Quite unique and fun game, wish they made a sequel or remaster it in newer consoles

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! (ps if you need challenge ideas, I recommend beating sonic forces with the least amount of rings possible, it is HELL trying to avoid some of the rings)

im so glad you did this video. this game is so massively underrated and under talked about. this is still on my top 5 sonic games of all time, such a shame people dont acknowledge it. i partly blame sega for not porting it to modern hardware and platforms just like with a vast majority of other sonic games.

I loved Sonic Battle back when I played it as a kid, but I remembered it being way harder than you made it look, even with your challenge in mind. Maybe I just didn't have a solid grasp of its mechanics, or the mind to take advantage of the more overpowered moves. There's a lot of trivia I remember about this game, but surprisingly most of it wouldn't have helped with this run, especially with the rule of not using special moves with the other characters. For example I think there's a mechanic where your opponent will be set to block the last special you hit them with when they respawn, but other comments have already pointed out that Emerl's stubby specials barely count as specials and would ignore that rule.

4:14 Also if you get launched by another character but hold the d-pad in the opposite direction, if you hit a wall you will also charge it that way as well.

MVP: Elevated Surface

I absolutely loved this game, i grew up on flashgames and the sprites just make me so happy to see. Also you have such a cute voice and i hope you get told that often! For a name you should totes do Maudes Marauders and do a sonic chronicles video lol

Haha... I remember how I didn't know Emerl was upgradable (I skipped a lot of dialogue) until I beat the game... You can imagine how unfathomably sick I was when I fought Ultimate Emerl.

Thank you for showing me Emerl, he is my new favorite robo baby and I love him very much.

That final fight with Emerl would've been a perfect opportunity for Super Sonic.

When you put a Sonic video up, I will immediately watch it no matter what I am doing.

I think we need a picture of Emerl all busted up with no upgrades, facing EVERY character in Sonic Battle by himself. Very epic.

The reason gamma could block specials sometimes is determimed when they respawn. When selecting your specials, the third one you pick is actually the one you're immune to. NPCs do this as well, giving a rock paper scissors dynamic to the game.

First time I played I wasn't aware that you had to equip the abilities, so I was actually doing this challenge thinking that's how I was supposed to play

There are some other unexplained mechanic in the game, too, which I only found out for myself after playing for a while. (also favorite game, btw) For the 3 skills, the 1st you choose is a ground power, the 2nd is aerial, and the 3rd is auto block. Think of this as like a rock-paper-scissors game, so if your current enemy kills you with a ground shot that's nasty, you can choose Pow + Set and choose block for Shot. Also, some specials have a specific animation that can cause damage, like Sonic's shot, where both the wave and the spinning motion can damage you. This makes Emerl's crappy ground Shot surprisingly strong, and I abuse it to the max whenever I play as Emerl. I don't even need Sonic's wave, I just need to hit enemies with the spin. Another one that causes damage is also Sonic's bomb placing motion. The bomb itself explodes, like duh, but for Emerl's crappy version, he does not place down bomb, but the hand placing can still cause damage, and you can also abuse that animation to sort of stun lock. Also, changing style card into E-102 Gamma will let Emerl explode upon kill, dealing damage just like the original E-102.

You're kidding, Sonic Battle too? I love this game. I unintentionally did this challenge back when I was a kid, sort of. I didn't know you could swap pages in the move menu for years, so I only changed movement and defensive options, lol Edit: Through my experience of doing this, I can tell you that Emerl's shot and bomb moves are actually pretty busted. Sure, they don't really...shoot, anything, but the resulting spike ball or jazz hands smack cannot be blocked by an opponent, even if they select shot or bomb as their block special. Which means, you can farm instant kills on those all you like by healing during downtime, since healing raises the charge bar even if you're not restoring health with it. I believe the only line of specials that the opponent can block automatically on Emerl are his power specials. I have fond memories of using electric jazz hands on my enemies back in the day, lol Edit edit: It's why you were able to use those moves in Rouge's "don't use special moves" challenge, because the game apparently doesn't consider them to be special moves, despite the fact you can get instant kills with them. Really wierd.

I actually did this as a kid because I was an idiot. When customizing Emerl, you're supposed to press the R button or whatever to go to the next page of things to customize, which I somehow never found. So I went through the entire game spamming the shitty version of Sonic's shot special. Good times

God I wish this game got more attention, so much of my childhood was spent playing it and going through the story over and over again

I am glad you explained all of the mechanics so well, many other creators did not do that for this game.

This is awesome! I always hoped I would find something like this! Back then I never learned about customization until my second run, so for the first I actually beat the game with mint emerl 😂😂😂 I remember abusing the ground shots and air pows a lot, and how utterly try hard the battle against sonic and shadow was, not to mention final boss eggman. Great vid! Hope to see more of your channel! ❤

this was a super fun video (despite it reminding me how exhausting battle has been for a non-gamer like me) the fact that you could do it with zero upgrades is motivational haha!! and just really well-composed video as well. really enjoyable!

Aye I loooooved this Shiz man I’m enjoyin the new year for sure big dog. Very entertaining big do VERY. Entertaining.

Man your channel has grown a lot the past 2 years. I have been here since the shadow video and I can say that you have improved a lot and probably will continue to improve.

I always wondered if you could do this myself, but I never tried it myself. Interesting challenge topic man!

Great video. Been wanting to revisit this game but this is even better actually. All the mechanics went over my child brain.

Thank you Sonic Battle, for being a broken ass fight game on gba that no one else at my school played that had amazing lore and basically inspired every Newgrounds Sonic sprite animation for ten years including Super Mario bros Z

You sure as hell do work super hard on these videos. BIG SUB UP IN THIS BIZ BANANA JIZ

Funny thing about this video it reminds me of a very same situation I was in when I first played this game! I got an English copy of it before I learned how to speak English so I was skipping all the dialogue and just playing all the fights without any upgrades just like your challenge video here!!! 😂 it wasn’t until like halfway through the entire game when I accidentally pressed one of the shoulder buttons to activate the skill menu and that’s when I was like what the hell is this? I felt like I discovered a secret. 😂

When we needed him the most, he finally uploaded this year (with a banger sonic battle challenge).

this game was absolutely top tier for a gba title. from the fighting mechanics, to the storyline, it never dissapointed. it only got more fun as you played it. I wish they would make a new sonic fighting game with these kinds of mechanics but updated to todays standard of quality.

Really love these challenge videos, keep going with them please!:)

As far as Tier awards go: You can never go wrong with "You get a copy of the episode's script" or somesuch

Gamma's death explosion is considered a Power-type move. If you're set to block Power, you're immune to it.

I got sonic battle a little after its release when I was a kid. I was sick and my grandmother kept me home from school- she took me to toys r us after the doctors appt and she bought me it. This game became my legitimate obsession- I played it nonstop all day everyday. I miss this game, I wish they’d do something like this again 😭😭

One of the higher Patreon Tiers could be something like "Neat People Mawde found on the Internet" 😇😇

Sonic Battle content in 2024? Hell yeah.

Some notes for anyone that might want to play the game: The special attack that is not used becomes an defense, so, for example, if you don't use bombs, they won't be able to damage you in case the enemy uses, the blocked attack also fills the special bar The enemy ALWAYS puts it's defensive option on the special attack that killed it last round (if your last hit was a special, you can still do most damage with specials and then finish off with a normal for a chance for it NOT to happen) Knuckles is a really infuriating character to use, it is the only character that moves during his jabs, but, his ground power special is a really strong punch, albeit a slow one too You can get to the ground faster as rouge (or with the air movement for emerl) by pressing jump In the Emerl chapter, you can find a building that let's you input codes, those include a special sort of attack that is a character' combo, those count as specials, but bypass the guard an enemy could use (except if the finisher is a special)

"We need to find a winning strategy and fast." Ah, the traditional Episode Sonic experience.

The balance and jank of this game was more present than i remembered.

Friggin love this game. I mainly remember the final boss being brutally difficult when I was younger. Drop one combo and just get chained to death repeatedly.

Fun fact: You missed the Chase Gimmick. Inmediately After you use the launcher attack, if you double tap the direction in which the opponent flew off, your character will do a high-speed dash right to where the opponent is, and pressing B will make them do a follow-up knock down, that sends the opponent to the ground, and deals a lot of damage

The goat is back with 2 videos i can enjoy lets go

Yay, someone finally did this challenge! Before watching: during my childhood i was really bad in English, so i always skipped the part when it says "press R when on the map to change Emerl's skills". So, with that the furthest i could get was the middle of Amy's story, that part when you need to score 5/10 points with 2 opponents before they score the goal. And i somehow did 5 points, but stuck on 10, could not continue (i did not know how to save my progress) and gave up. Years later when i knew English much better i attempted it again and that's when i knew how i messed up in past. Turns out Amy's story was the hardest one and if i could beat it i probably could finish the game back then

Aw, I friggin loved this game! Mad excited to watch this!

god i wish i had 2 dollars to throw at you for the outro. i'm hoping and praying that by the next video it's BEAUTIFUL.

New Challenge: Is it possible for Mawde to sing the Patreon Song if we include all of Icelandic volcano names in our various names?

The reason opponents can sometimes auto-block, both on the ground and in the air, is because you’re trying to use a special move type that they picked as their defense! Before you respawn at any point in a round you pick what type of special you have on the ground, what type you have in the air, and what type you’ll automatically block if someone uses that type against you, and the opponents get to pick theirs as well any time they respawn

Heck yeah it’s Mawde! hope you doing well thanks for the video!

"When he gets knocked up" U... UM?! Phrasing is wonderful I swear~ XD

Classic Mawde Wile Banger, great vid man

I ended up doing this to myself completely by accident as a kid. I only had Sonic Battle on emulator, so I had no instruction booklet, and I was a dumb kid so I just never figured out how to actually give Emerl all of these moves I was earning. Every battle with him was a godawful chip damage fest and I was constantly like "why is this character so bad? what is the point here?" Glad to see I'm not alone in my suffering.

I remember playing this game and giving Emerl a bunch of Chaos’ move sets because I thought it had the coolest animations.

Wanna know something interesting? When I played this game at first, I was completely unable to understand how to use Emerl’s configuration mechanic (long story short, since the game only told me to press the R button during cutscenes, I only tried pressing it then, not realizing that I had to press in the overworld), so I ended up beating the game with nothing but Emerl’s initial basic moves. What I did was just keep spamming the R button over and over again. It was challenging but I actually beat the entire game without using any copied moves at all. Yes, even Eggman, though that was only because he floated in the air. Still, I was very glad when I finally figured it out.

I already knew this was possible for one reason & 1 reason only. I did when I was in kindergarden. To be exact, I started in kindergarden & beat it before finishing grade school. Believe it or not, that’s up to you. The thing is, I didn’t know how to read back then (obviously), so I never knew that Emerl could be upgraded. It took little me multiple years, but well, that was my original experience with my first Sonic game. And after u actually learned that Emerl can be customized, I played it all over again using moves that I never noticed I got🤣😅 He’s been my favorite fictional character ever since~ So yeah, I mainly was excited to see someone else do this as well. And I gotta say, it was fun to watch. While I didn’t think of many of the tricks you showed, juggling with ground trap and air power is a core memory of mine. Amazing job at beating the game like this and thanks for resurfacing such precious memories of mine ⭐️

I remember when I didn't know how to equip those cards so I just did Emerl without equipments up until the fight against Amy and Cream in Amy's chapter.

Ah, I did this as a child because I didn't know you could upgrade Emerl. The Sonic Shadow fight was the true hardest because I used a mixture of the bomb juggle, which I figured out as a kid, and using the other abilitys to jump onto a thin wall. I would switch between running away and fighting, allowing myself to die after killing at least both of them once. Then when spawned in, I would jump on an elevated area as they ran to me. I was stuck on this for so long that I actually learned how to read English by the time I had completed it. When I got to the final boss I could read now, so up to them I had no idea what was happening because I couldn't read so I just went everywhere each time trying to figure out where to go. Finishing the game when I was about, 9. I managed to beat Eggman by juggling his rouge falling too. It wasn't till I was 15 that I came back to this game and I made Emerl strong and beat it properly.

I hope we get a Neat Things video alongside this challenge.

with the rogue timer one...quitting the battle counts as passsing the mission. only know of that due to internet

Somewhere out there is an alternate universe where this game has an insane EVO scene and I'm incredibly sad that we don't live in that universe

I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention the dash attack at the start. I vaguely recall it being very useful in the final Sonic Vs Ultimate Emerl fight.

I actually had no idea Emerl could be upgraded the first time I played this game. So this video is exactly how my initial playthrough went. (Apart from the special restriction for other characters.)

Great Video!

This is a great challenge! (It also makes me wish that Sega brought back the advance games and battle) Also, if ya want a tougher challenge, if you hack the game, if possible, you force Emerl to be playable in every battle.

Never heard or seen this game before. Now i wanna play it. A good vid and game recommendation.