The main thing that ticked me off when the chameleon is explaining her reason of being a villain, one of the reasons is “I was too small” like what!?!?!? A freaking mantis learned it!!!!

Honestly the whole “I was too small” reason could’ve worked like she would realize that there are Kung Fu Masters who were smaller than her and she would find out how hypocritical and Biased the Kung Fu masters she spoke to were

Mantis and Shifu: Are we a joke to you?

Imagine if it turned out that Zhen was just the Chameleon in disguise.

One thing I’m not sure anyone has talked about is the sheer poetic irony behind each of the villain’s defeats (prior to this one) Tai Lung dedicated his entire life towards obtaining the dragon scroll, but was defeated by Po when he rejected its true meaning Lord Shen wiped out every Panda to avoid his fate, but by doing so only sealed it by starting Po’s journey to find inner peace General Kai was obsessed with having all of the chi in the world, but was destroyed once he had more chi than he could handle The Chameleon just gets oneshot by Po’s staff when he remembers he isn’t a moron 💀

It’s so disappointing that she doesn’t even have a good motivation like the other villains in the series tai lung was promised a title he would never receive lord shen tried to stop his fate and was banished Kai felt betrayed by oogway who he loved like a brother and wanted revenge for his betrayal BUT THE CHAMELEONS ONLY MOTIVATION IS THAT NO ONE WANTED TO TEACH HER KUNG-FU.

Bro imagine working like all day for months to animate the chameleon (dreamworks said it was very hard to animate) then people said chameleon the worst villian ever

Honestly, if they cut the dragon shapeshifting part out in the final part, nothing would change lol

didn't watch the movie but holy moly the chameleons desigb tickles my brain a lot, it's so pretty. while the fox's design is basic asf and i kinda hate it☠️☠️anyways, fun video! keep up the good work!!:D

When i first watched this movie, i wanted to get out of the theaters so badly.

1:20 Tbf Zhen probably sneaked into the Jade Palace to steal Po’s staff. The Chameleon only needed the staff, not Po. Befriending Po was probably a plan B or Zhen thinking quickly in the prison.

That thumbnail got me dying.

What Villain's motivation is stupider? Doofenshmirtz (2nd Dimension): I lost my Choo Choo Chameleon: iM SMOL

2:22 "and she's very tiny, like the size of my p- p- p- pinky finger" bro was hesitating 💀

Hmm... a student get rejected by his teacher and become a vilain, sounds........very familiar

Like the time i came to the cinema and then we just was thinking waiting for the fight scene it was so little part of the fight scene which was sad ;-;

The worst thing is literally that the stakes are non-existing! if Po just TRIED a bit harder from the start, he would've killed the Chameleon with a single attack, he doesn't even need the effing staff! he is already at Oogway's level, he can just chill and win against the strongest enemies in the verse, Kung Fu Panda 4 was a NICE movie at best, and helped me wash away that god-awful Megamind and the crime syndicates or whatever, also Jack Black is always a bless to hear so that was nice too... somehow i didn't even HATED the aqua fina character wich is a first for me, i was able to bear with her despite the fact i did found her annoying and too predictable, and so yeah the fact the Chameleon is so weak EVEN with everything she absorbed is baffling, if Po just tried or decided to attack her seriously in her monster form, he would've won immediately, that's it, sorry for the long comment, great video.

Great video bro! Keep up the good work!

I rewrote her character to make sense. Plus the story. To make it better. Ever since after watching the film.

She didn't even say "i wanna take over the world" she was like "steal awsome looking moves, muahhahah"

Wtf happened to dream works bro, 2 years sgo they created the best villain ever but now its gone down 😭

Chameleon is copied of Shen trying to rule all of china and Kai, trying to steal spirits and kung fu. Also its funny she uses the excuse of being small. Mantis, Sifu, Viper, Master Chicken. Its like brah. Also she pushed a person down the stairs, while Tai Lung laid waste to the valley of peace in kung fu panda 1. While in kung fu Panda 2 Shen commits genocide, in Kung fu panda 3 Kai is an warlord and experienced fighter and warrior like Oogway.

I Actually kinda liked the Chameleon, but what I didn’t get is that why did mantis not get rejected to learn kung fu he is smaller than the chameleon. But me and my friends liked the chameleon as a villian but will never be as good as tai lung

Agreed, even though i like kung fu panda 4

instead of the chameleon being bitter about her size, she could’ve been physically disabled. that sort of circumstance would make more sense as to why the chameleon was deterred from becoming a kung fu master, and her trauma and subsequent turn to sorcery would have more weight to it. she was never able to foster fighting skills on her own, but maybe she discovered she had a talent for sorcery. she learns that she can steal the kung fu of great masters with her unique abilities, realizes that through this she could finally be recognized as a powerful/worthy figure, which is the catalyst for how the movie begins. we could see her in the movie stripping power from those who cared for her, killing anyone who attempts to stop her from finally living up to her dream. when shes absorbed enough strength to become a kung fu master her ambitions grow larger and she wants now to be the most powerful warrior there is. she doesn’t have to be evil for the sake of evil, raising and training zhen to perfection could’ve been the chameleons way of recognizing herself in the fox and wanting to give her something that she wasn’t allowed at that age (her empathy would differentiate her from the other villains.) furthermore, i believe that SHE should have been the new dragon warrior. Zhen can still fill the same role throughout most of the film, and the audience is still led to believe that zhen will be the dragon warrior bc it just seems so obvious given how talented she is at kung fu, but if written well enough the chameleon being reformed could’ve been the perfect resolution that also leaves room for the two more movies that dreamworks wants to make out of this franchise. we wouldn’t expect it because every other villain of the last 3 films was evil through and through and even chose death over changing their ways. The chameleon could be a refreshing break in the kfp formula and mark for a change in the kfp universe. the chameleon has introduced an entirely new fighting system than the already established kung fu, a system that allows the physically disadvantaged an opportunity to cultivate an unconventional strength. chameleon as the next dragon warrior would enforce a change that would expand combat further than kung fu and open up opportunities for more aspiring warriors that they wouldn’t be afforded otherwise. Po just also shouldn’t be able to choose the next dragon warrior, bc he wasn’t chosen by any particular character. it was “destined” or the “universe,” which makes it all the more frustrating when shifu tells po to choose a successor. (Shifu out of all characters should recognize that it’s not rlly a choice lol.) so maybe po thinks that zhen should be his successor for a good portion of the movie, but he finds out he’s wrong when met with chameleon. anyways, chameleon wouldve been a lot more satisfying as an antagonist if she were even a little bit more fleshed out.

yeah, this movie's plot is insanely bad and lazy writing to mantis, I'd add Shifu too also, where was Oogway all along?

Imagine the movie just ended when po just stayed at valley and didn’t have let out zhen

Her size WASNT the issue and problem this villain faced. And the film RIGHTFULLY did NOT make her seem like a joke off other people and laugh about. She was feared and serious and it was because nobody believed when she was fear and threat and it showed in the flashback sequence and the MAIN "PROBLEM" with the film is that she's not in it enough and I want to have #DreamWorks #UniversalStudios #KungFuPanda #extendedcut #KungFuPanda3 #KungFuPanda4 an extended cut to show her more and give her more fight scenes! She's a more threatening villain and is treated with more direct seriousness than Kai in the third and her plan is even somewhat the same as Kai except it's ressurection of dead souls instead of possession of jade bodies and the final fight with the exception in 3 with Kai vs Po is more serious and not funny and it's more awesome and violent and hits more about Pos emotional journey in it too. Give her another chance guys. Rewatch the movie n You'll see it!

I agree with the video except Tai Lung did get a cool fight scene before getting one hit

I never wanted a villain to lose so badly

1:14 The Chameleon got them braincells

I like the ideas for the characters but not the execution

nice channel my man.

The chameleon might be a Dumb Villain but you have to admit SHE IS HOT!🔥

Why not let the fox character be the chameleon in disguise, betray Po. But feel sad in a way to the point on not understanding why because she was put down all her life an doesn't know genuine kindness. For her backstory, instead of multiple Kung fu masters rejecting her for her size, have it just be one master where she lived an once admired as an orphan. But be rejected because that master viewed short creatures as weak an kicked her out. Po then defeats her, but gives her a second chance after she serves her time in prison to learn kung fu an use it for good.

Honestly, her appearing in the bar feels like it could've really worked under a different direction. Imagine if the stakes are, instead, that she was tormenting this town and they needed saving. Then there's this bar scene where they are worrying about this criminal overlord, one of them acting normal. Then, that person leaves and, partway through their exit, reverts to their chameleon form. Now suddenly the crew is left realizing the person they bad mouthed was not only able to blend in among them, but had enough knowledge to resemble one of their friends visually and socially. Of course, in this case she'd have to go from a martial artist to an assassin type of character, but I still feel like this could've helped her stand out from what the movie originally did

I think we need a video of " why fenghuang is the best female kung fu panda villain than Chameleon"

Literally anything from the LOA series has more depth than her.

Apparently in the movie the chameleon can't just take the staff because "its powers don't work if its taken, it only works if its given". Thats why she had to get zhen to be given it so zhen would give her it.

I know Chameleon is angry at being small. Reason for Chameleon did not stop villainous act even after get more Powers is she is just like Shen?

I'm surprised Viola Davis is still getting acting roles considering how badly The Woman King bombed with tons of controversy behind it.

Nonsense. The Chameleon a magic wielder, thus it is no surprise that she can summon back dead warriors from the Sprit Realm with her sorcery in a world where that level of witchcraft exists.

thats make sense

4:21 If Tigress Didn't Bring Her To The Jade Palace I Don't Think He Would've Been Accepted, And He Didn't Even Want To Learn Kung-Fu Before Tigress Brought Him At The Palace

thats the perfect excuse for being a villain since why should other small characters be able to learn kungfu but not her

Puss in Boots 2 was a great sucess by DreamWorks and now we have this Kung Fu Panda 4 Thing...

actually in can be better story about redemption and finding true potential if at the end Po made Chameleon the dragon warrior. She rob bandits, Zhen rob normal people. Zhen traitoring Po then traitoring Chameleon. Chameleon kill less people that Po or Zhen that kill many soldiers by throwing them off the cliff. Chameleon do everything to become better at kung-fu, unlike Zhen. Also Po showing all cinema that he give second chance to everyone, so ending look strange where he decide to kill already defeated Chameleon, when she begging them for mercy. And if they didn't kill her it look even more strange to send her to spirit plane, because she literally can one-shot spirits and steal their powers.

I mean Kung Fu Panda 4 was my favourite of all the movies

Here is my thought of how she could have been made better: Her backstory: She would have been an orphan who have lost her parents during a war she tried to become a kung fu master and after getting rejected she started studying dark magic and dark ways and after becoming powerful as an adult she tried to become a dark kung fu master it led to her getting banished for studying dark magic and swore revenge that she would try to take over the world as a new kung fu master leader of the world. Thats the best i could do.

Laugh my ass off if po knew Zhin's betrayed & wont her be Dragon Warrior Po got point be A master vibe now

All of you people just don't get it, the reason why the chameleon is rejected by kung fu classes is because she is chameleon! Come on people that's a very good example of why she was trying to become powerful and strong.

Literally all points are Wong

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She ain't even mantis size. Compare her and fox lady then compare chifu and fox lady. I could argue chifu has shorter arms than her, that don't stop him!

Me pull a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is a villan?

What about constance backstory?

I loved the film and the villain was honestly okay. But I feel like it would be better if Po died tbh lol, it did sound like he was gonna die because Tai lung literally said “see you on the other side.” Which could be teasing for a 5th film where he joins Tai Lung.

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Still better then megamind 2 atleast the animation is good megamind 2 has bad animation and plot

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I actually really enjoyed this movie and it's way better than the 3rd movie. The new Ghostbusters movie was horrible and wasn't as good as Afterlife.

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Look here no one is asking you to watch it if you dont like it . The creater trided their best . Like you could make a better movie . Just go watch another movie if it is not good for your eyes or mind

See personally how I see it was that she’s not really meant to be that good of a villain , I think they needed an easy villain for the new dragon warrior to take on and focus on zhen instead of the villain . Shifu even says that it’s a furious 5 job not a dragon warrior issue . Like

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