Watch Apple Unified Memory HUMILIATE Windows 11 DDR4 RAM! 🤯
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Күн бұрынRAM isn't like it used to be, at least with Apple's Unified Memory! Watch us put 16GB of unified RAM and 16GB of traditional Windows 11 RAM to the test to see which is more efficient!
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macOS RAM vs Windows RAM - 00:00
Restarting them to clear the RAM - 0:57
Opening up web browser tabs - 1:30
Launching Photoshop & Lightroom Classic - 2:41
Exporting photos in Lightroom - 5:18
Testing the web browsing tabs - 6:44
Testing Davinci Resolve Video Editing - 9:25
Going back to browser Tabs - 14:00
Double Video + Photo export! - 15:30
Why Unified Memory is MAGIC - 19:00
I can't believe the Windows laptop is THIS slow - 20:24
Final thoughts on Unified vs Traditional RAM - 21:22
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@MaxTechOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
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@SaltedCoffee400 2 жыл бұрын
I think its more about the operating system, windows has a problem when it comes to freeing Ram, but mac os gets in done much faster
@catchnkill 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaltedCoffee400 It is about the bus width and proximity to the CPU cores. For M1 Pro chips the memory bus width to the on-die memory controller is 256bit wide and 512 bit wide for M1 Max. In the PC side, nobody make such a wide bus connection to the memory controller. Referring proximity to CPU cores, AMD has one Ryzen chip using vcache. Vcache is level 3 cache stacked on top of the CPU die using advance 3D packaging. It gives the Ryzen chip a 15% speed increase.
@pranoymridha 2 жыл бұрын
MacBook is the Bugatti Chiron of all laptops 🔥🔥
@honey4xi 2 жыл бұрын
M1 chip with Unified Memory which is the first generation chip Apple has made is the winner.
@Shivam__8107 2 жыл бұрын
But iam indian..🕉️🇮🇳🇮🇳
@rainmannoodles 2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft: "Maybe if we put the exhaust on the side, it'll heat up our competition and make them thermal throttle too!" Apple: "You think heat is your ally. You've merely adapted to thermal throttling. I was born in it, molded by it."
@ramakrishnamishra8179 2 жыл бұрын
This is next level!
@aaronjohnson8159 2 жыл бұрын
Sensing a little bit of Tom Hardy's Bane voice here.
@BboyHipHop1 10 ай бұрын
I lol'd
@Epicgamer_Mac 7 ай бұрын
This has got to be the best youtube comment
@luisp.alonso 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a windows and pc user for about 24 years, but I’m truly so impressed about the new M1 pro and max performance that I’ve just decided to switch, that’s it. Apple has mastered their silicon
@DaveDugdaleColorado 2 жыл бұрын
I’m too am switching from windows.
@thomast7748 2 жыл бұрын
I need a pen and desktop apps for my work. I can’t switch. Apple please, you won, let the ipad run macos.
@TheVikingquest 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomast7748 there is this company called wacom that is used by people needing pen support. Ever heard of it? I recommend intous pro small if working on the laptop. Medium to large if doing 32 inch 4k monitors. They r all portable. Not that many proffesionals would hardly consider touchscreen as even viable for office work. They can be used wireless or via thunderbolt…
@SimonQuirk68 2 жыл бұрын
I have long time hardcore PC fans I know switching. Once you get used to the OS you won’t be disappointed.
@KaReEdCa 2 жыл бұрын
I just did that last week. Mbp14 10/16 & 16gb/1tb.its super snappy, DaVinci exports are a matter of seconds. The only thing I've seen the mac slow down on is on importing pictures into lightroom.
@MiltonGeorges 2 жыл бұрын
The battery longevity really is the crazy thing to me on the new macs. I edited and exported a small photo project in Lightroom last night which took me a little longer than a half hour to complete. Out of habit, I went to get the charger after it was done, but when I checked the battery life, the machine was still at 97% charge 😂. My old 13” Mac would have easily dropped 30-40% doing the same task. These new machines are insane.
@thebuddercweeper 2 жыл бұрын
The battery life seems crazy on the 16” from what I’ve seen, still great on the 14” but less so because you just can’t get the same battery life with the same chip on a smaller battery. What configuration do you have?
@MiltonGeorges 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebuddercweeper I've got the 14" with 10-core CPU and 14-Core GPU, 1 TB SSD.
@azaz11197633 Жыл бұрын
Your old 13” was intel ?
@MiltonGeorges Жыл бұрын
@@azaz11197633 Yes - 2020 13" core i5 with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. (work computer)
@farlleiharrison4601 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to see where the industry is being led to with the new M1 chips
@arushh42 2 жыл бұрын
never knew that!
@honey4xi 2 жыл бұрын
M1 chip with Unified Memory which is the first generation chip Apple has made is the winner.
@morzan5733 2 жыл бұрын
But upgrade ability was completely died(
@honey4xi 2 жыл бұрын
@@morzan5733 More PC users are switching to Macs because new Macs are super efficient power and and great hardware and software.
@12akul 2 жыл бұрын
@@morzan5733 and repairability
@MrEcted 2 жыл бұрын
Software dev here: One of the biggest misconceptions out there is that lower RAM utilization = better. This just isn't true, ideally you want your RAM to be saturated because RAM access is MUCH faster than reading from the drive (despite modern drives being super fast, they are still slow compared to RAM). The system should only deallocate RAM when necessary. Basically, a computer with as much loaded into RAM as possible (obviously done intelligently which modern OSs can do) will operate significantly faster than a computer that is constantly allocating/deallocating RAM and always reading from the disk, despite it showing less RAM usage.
@manaswidaksha137 2 жыл бұрын
That just makes the Mac results that much more impressive.
@joaopauloalbq 2 жыл бұрын
My linux machine using 349mb of memory used and 817mb of cache :O
@TheVikingquest 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think that is true on this new silicone. I also believe the bus speeds is what is limiting transfer speeds - x86 is around 90/sec depending on motherboard - this silicone is either 200 or double on max. The unix software is also much faster on file transfers - microsoft use of dll files, ms dos base, doesnt compare to that… as little as its a hardware issue i dont see any benefit from threads being filled with more ram usage. It is also only a 8 core (+2) system. Intel have 16 treads on tgeir flagship cpu. Ofcourse ”ram” usage is lower - the thread count is much lower. Im not interested in how silicone works theoretically - but i think your theory dont work here.
@chidorirasenganz 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to keep in mind is that the storage speeds on the M1 Pro macs are between DDR2 & DDR3 (5-7 Gb/s ) depending on the storage config. Also since MacOS lacks jetsum filling the ram could result in slower performance since it does have to page with swap but as your comment alludes to its not a clear cut situation.
@BootStrapTurnerVideography 2 жыл бұрын
The amazing performance in memory and also swap on the M1 series is absolutely fantastic! Suspect that 64GB on my M1 Max was possibly overkill, but I am not returning it.
@khoifoto 2 жыл бұрын
It's not overkill when you fill up your NVME, the swap will get significantly slower. Anyway, it depends on your needs.
@razrv3lc 2 жыл бұрын
You future proofed by doing that. It is overkill now but in four five years, when 32gb ram is default you’ll still be well ahead of the pack.
@zgoaty9235 2 жыл бұрын
Future proofing is never a bad thing. It’s why I upgraded my 2018 11” iPad Pro to the 2021 11”. The 16 GB of RAM is going to make sure that I never run into issues with apps closing or slowing down because of having to access the storage. iOS 15 already makes 6 GB on the iPhone 12 and 13 Pros/Maxes almost a minimum because of how much it caches on the RAM. On iPadOS, it uses well above 4 GB of RAM and gets close to 6 so the 8 GB of RAM on the 128-512 storage options will get limited very quickly on further iOS/iPadOS iterations.
@creativestudio101 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's awesome! There's nothing as overkill... I wish I could get the machine you got, so now will wait the MBA M2 next year... Ha ha
@chidorirasenganz 2 жыл бұрын
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu nah maybe twice as fast
@briansfocus 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why benchmarks don't always matter. The RTX can score however higher, but if the real world performance isn't there, it's all just numbers.
@ko-Daegu 2 жыл бұрын
this is CPU not GPU benchmarks and performances
@briansfocus 2 жыл бұрын
@@ko-Daegu The RTX is using the GPU for many of these tasks.
@everythingsfine1395 2 жыл бұрын
Rtx ? Do you know what are you talking about, rtx 3090 alone its 80% of the price of m1 laptop You can literally play on 8k with that gpu , in MacBook you can’t even play , the only goood thing about the macbook is the software, once the Microsoft will optimise their system that good as apple i don’t think apple can stand a chance even now at the moment where the macbook is one of the best laptop the microsoft still rules the market cause apple are not serving the gaming part
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 2 жыл бұрын
@@briansfocus lol dude you have no clue what you are talking about. I run FEM and CFD simulations for my work and having a powerful GPU makes all the difference in the world. Mac is good for video and photo editing but for engineering work, it just sucks ass, that is if the software is even available on Mac And then there is gaming where mid range windows laptops with dedicated GPUs absolutely destroy even the 3000$ MacBooks
@briansfocus 2 жыл бұрын
@@everythingsfine1395 Uhh. Did you even read my post? I think you missed my point.
@sharimalmaas9658 2 жыл бұрын
The Surface laptop looks like MacBook (keyboard n screen layout) more than the M1 MacBook itself😂😂
@winterwolfryan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it totally does! 😂
@roent4140 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that thought this lol
@los2558 2 жыл бұрын
😂 yeahh, The Surface laptop looks like MacBook (keyboard) and screen looks like ipad 😂
@unbelievableuniverse8665 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@EricParker 2 жыл бұрын
The surface looks so similar to a 2017 MacBook Pro I was getting confused. I wonder how much of the difference is attributable to the dramatically faster SSD on the Mac, which can swap better.
@chidorirasenganz 2 жыл бұрын
yep its at DDR2 speeds almost DDR3 on the top tiers
@thebuddercweeper 2 жыл бұрын
It’s likely a combination of that as well as the Unified architecture, the fact that it uses LPDDR5 instead of DDR4 and how much bandwidth the unified memory has.
@chidorirasenganz 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebuddercweeper yeah the m1 pro has more memory channels as well
@77dris 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Microsoft ripped off the mac OS and now has ripped off the Macbook design.
@augustofretes 2 жыл бұрын
The unified memory is doing a lot of heavy lifting too. With video memory and RAM split, you have to copy back and forth between the two, so the effective amount of RAM is actually lower.
@DemetriPanici 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how much better the flagship product for Apple is than Microsoft
@Matchleader 2 жыл бұрын
yeah apple haters punching the air rn
@alexanderkopke2420 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, this also a basemodel macbook pro m1 14" I think, not even an m1 max model
@SithTracy 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure that is a fair comment. MS builds it unit based on AMD x86-64 (Intel) architecture for a Windows platform that is tried and true. It has been around forever. It is not power efficient. ARM is exciting/new and is a challenge for change. As far as mobile computing goes, I like what Apple ARM is doing and interested in seeing where it take computing in the years to come. Waiting for my M1 Pro MBP to come. My first new Mac since 2014 that is still working but showing it's age. I use various computer systems and pledge no allegiance to any. I am very interested to see how ARM can scale to a desktop. I would like to see how it can scale in data center processors. Waiting for software to catch on. Watching for security concerns and how things can get addressed should something come up.
@kryptoniteee 2 жыл бұрын
@@SithTracy dude you’re talking shit. Microsoft is so far behind, software and hardware wise. Just accept that Microsoft hasn’t been innovating and spewing out shit.
@Greg00020 2 жыл бұрын
microsoft is always junk
@augustofretes 2 жыл бұрын
I literally laughed out loud when you said "this time it did slow down (...) It took one second longer than before".
@DaveDugdaleColorado 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta think Microsoft/Intel/AMD/NVidia are all very nervous right now. I am not sure how all these companies can compete with Apple right now, I think it will take about 5-7 years for them to catch up (that's why I just left Windows).
@directlinkrexx4409 2 жыл бұрын
Apple doesn't sell it's socs to consumers and Macs are very expensive Their is nothing they have to worry about
@DaveDugdaleColorado 2 жыл бұрын
@@directlinkrexx4409 In this test the Windows machine is $100 more, not sure why you say "Macs are very expensive"? They used to be expensive, not anymore that is why I switched, and the fact they use a lot less power.
@aanilgizem 2 жыл бұрын
@@directlinkrexx4409 macs aren't expensive. especially the m1 air is pretty cheap for what you get.
@boutstaxx 2 жыл бұрын
Does your Mac have touch screen and pen support exactly that’s how they will keep up most of these stress tests does not affect real world usage
@royaltyallen1162 2 жыл бұрын
@@aanilgizem 256gb no thanks
@Giveitaresssstt 2 жыл бұрын
Task/resource prioritisation and management on MacOS was honestly already phenomenal, together with this new chip it’s an unstoppable duo
@m.zadshakoyan 2 жыл бұрын
Tests are amazing, thanks for Max
@Billy123bobzzz 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! This is exactly what needed to everyone! Thank you!
@bedighovhannesian 2 жыл бұрын
MaxTech have become my favorite youtube channel.
@KirVinodhPerera 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@theotherphil 2 жыл бұрын
Same here….quality content and 2 extremely likeable characters.
@bedighovhannesian 2 жыл бұрын
@@theotherphil Max and Vadim are the nicest
@fairnews7484 2 жыл бұрын
They really do extreme in-depth testing like no other KZfaq channel.
@sweedishpie360 2 жыл бұрын
Prefer a more unbiased channel like hardware unboxed or Linus. Jayztwocents is awesome but they don't review anything apple related. Just like gamer nexus
@jonathanwhiteside6092 2 жыл бұрын
The battery life is more like a mobile phone, mine is off power all day and never lets me down. M1 is one of the reasons I moved to Mac recently after being a Windows user since 3.11. As for unified memory, this just goes to prove that is you do it right, it works. I'd like to see a 16GB 14" binned M1 Pro face off against a Surface Pro with 32GB, because to me it looks like with the M1 you only need half the RAM you'd need for an equivalent Windows machine.
@lidrol5281 2 жыл бұрын
You have definitively been working hard on all this testing. Thanks for this amazing work.
@Lying29 2 жыл бұрын
If I am remembering correctly, the surface laptop has a much slower SSD. Once the swap has been used, the M1 macs will definitely win.
@MarsorryIckuatuna 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that Windows laptop is a mega clone of the MacBook Pro in design. It’s no wonder Apple introduced a notch, anything to differentiate. They’re cloning so hard, it would have been really hard to tell.
@Anthony-jx6fz 2 жыл бұрын
Uh not really, that design is like a standard studio laptop design. Their design i would say is better withh that tiuch screen studio feature
@TheVikingquest 2 жыл бұрын
Its shittier inside though. Cant miss that. That is the copy i mean - the one without a notch.
@SketchTurnerZero 2 жыл бұрын
It is not. It's just a standard. It's like cars this days - all looks the same
@MarsorryIckuatuna 2 жыл бұрын
@@SketchTurnerZero Fair enough - just me then. I find some Samsung and Microsoft notebooks look a bit close to those of Apple’s. I don’t find that in other brands from Lenovo, HP, Acer etc.
@startingbark0356 Жыл бұрын
@@MarsorryIckuatunacant really say that over the samsung ones, they still look unique
@yousefalnajim 2 жыл бұрын
When are we getting that detailed video editing tests for the new Macbooks Pro?…. I can’t wait!
@marcteleki2801 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact you show real performance in a daily task great thanks
@button9 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's a testament to the OS as well. My "new" (2019) PC RTX laptop will often at times start choking up or give up after a few days of use (16GB RAM) while my old 2012 Mac Mini (12GB) will heavy lift through tasks much easier without memory problems.
@alexmeek610 2 жыл бұрын
Unix is really good at memory management nt based windows systems have never been good at it it's just usually been able to be kept hidden by increasing ram speed and size but that's not the case when Microsoft has deemed windows must eat 7 gigs of ram at start up to spy on you
@chrisjibas 2 жыл бұрын
yoooo!! much love from Taiwan!! thanks for the content brotha
@princeteh5258 2 жыл бұрын
your test is intense! Have not even think to push them so hard if using previous version, the fan and lag will be staling
@kippie80 2 жыл бұрын
The best tests yet! Thanks
@myke6699 2 жыл бұрын
What were the cpu or the chassis temperatures during the test between the two machines?
@RaghavVijay 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I knew the MacBooks would be good but that’s just unbelievable fast.Thanks great comparison keep it up love the videos🔥🔥🔥🔥.
@edipocdf 2 жыл бұрын
man, which crazy results, this is the video to show to anyone saying that M1 macs are not so good, tks for this, also, these is the type of tests with multicore cpus that I always eager to see, this really push machine to the limite and is where x86 platforms are not so good. Be prepared to alder lake reviews, for sure it will be fast in some tasks, but when you do this same test you will see which platform is the best.
@max___9227 2 жыл бұрын
Love ur vids and would love to see vids like these for in depth performance differences in future. :)
@mathieuceccarini1841 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video !! the macbook version is the basic one with 512 gb ssd?
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the MBP smoked the competition here. Would be interesting to see how they compare if we give Surface 32gb ram but keep the MBP at 16gb.
@alexmeek610 2 жыл бұрын
Your results would be the same in reality despite apples lack of giving ram speeds it's probably high speed lpddr4x ram the edge comes from the fact the ram is built into the soc leading to less latency with it communicating with the cpu and gpu even the dedicated gpu has more latency then the igpu on the Mac it's just a benefit of soc based systems oh and windows memory management has always been bullshit so naturally windows will eat 8 gigs of ram to spy on u
@chrispaul2512 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss new content. Let's go!
@kobiweitzman2487 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but you guys truest are the best. From ur reviews to comparisons and leaks. You guys are truly the best! keep up the OUTSTANDING work!!
@daveadams6421 2 жыл бұрын
The video we've been waiting for 😀👍
@azanrashid2270 2 жыл бұрын
Windows Users be like: "Ahh shit here another humiliation again"
@chanyongquen5620 2 жыл бұрын
They be crying now hahaha
@boutstaxx 2 жыл бұрын
I have touchscreen and pen support things like that matter if I’m using the machine in a total different perspective personally As a producer and audio engineer to be able to sit with a surface pro in my lap and manipulate the timeline and draw in chords notes etc editing is a blast on these machines with that being said We all have our preferences as I also have a 12.9 2021 IPad Maxed out which I personally own 1000’s dollars in apps I’ll argue with anyone over my IPad I love that thing definitely the best tablet ever created
@rowaystarco 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. KZfaqrs Mac/laptop videos always end up being about exporting videos. 99+% of users don't do that regularly. It's mostly the M1 chip that's awesome with Mac now. The OS is in many ways equal to Windows in my opinion. I prefer Windows for office work and for gaming. But I really hope this inspires Microsoft to push for custom SOCs for their devices. Just like PowerPC was outdated when Apple did their last switch, it now appears that X86/X64 is outdated as well. ARM is probably the future.
@Evan-xs8ts 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. He's comparing a laptop with an integrated gpu vs dedicated
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 2 жыл бұрын
Your precious mac can’t even play video games decently. Real world use is not just limited to video editing. Not everyone sits on the pcs and exports videos all day. How about engineering software? MacOS is absolutely garbage for anything related to engineering
@-Enoch 2 жыл бұрын
Good informative video, I was about to buy normal windows laptop
@Dresling 2 жыл бұрын
What's that CPU utility you use on Mac OS?
@MrDexterSr 2 жыл бұрын
These videos remind me when I used to compare my VTech laptops by myself when I was a kid!
@Denieru1982 2 жыл бұрын
Helpful video as always.. but we already know 16gb ums on the mbp is way better.. but really want to see if 16gb is comparable to 32gb on the windows side..
@smallbizdigitalmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Fab video further convincing me that the 16” 10CPU 16GPU 16GB M1 Pro will be a suitable interim fix for my Sony A7S3 4K codec until the new iMac finally drops
@thomasraffestin3407 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what they changed but I notice that the starts a lot faster with Monterey than before, under Big Sur for my MB1 M1
@zzkeokizz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That was really interesting
@davidcostello7320 2 жыл бұрын
So happy I ordered my MacBook Pro last week. Just w a I t I n g!
@mambi74 2 жыл бұрын
Can that Surface laptop look any more like a 2014/15 Macbook Pro in that top down view? Seems they were really 'inspired' by that design.
@razrv3lc 2 жыл бұрын
Right? I kept getting confused by which one was which until I remembered the keyboard is now entirely black on the new MacBook Pros without the silver borders between the keys.
@zoruaboy 2 жыл бұрын
“Redmond, start your photocopiers”
@jtonline99 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have thought looking at the memory utilisation in those activity monitor screens is a good indicator of actual usage on either system, given OS and apps proactively grab pages of memory before they're required. Not sure what algorithm either OS uses, but contiguous pages are usually more efficient than just requesting what you need when you need it, and infrequently used pages are usually swapped out before you hit physical memory limits (which would explain the massive initial macOS swapfile) :) In another thought, how weird is it that the surface keyboard looks like the previous generation MacBooks? That screwed with my brain the first 5 mins of the video.
@yarnosh 2 жыл бұрын
For sure, measuring actual RAM usage is very tricky on any system. I was also just thinking that the surface is looking very Mac-like, lol.
@yongkun8359 2 жыл бұрын
Any resolution yet on the memory leak issue in M1 Pro Max?
@ottawamountainman 2 жыл бұрын
The performance of these new M1Pro Mac is just so amazing. Thanks guys for providing such high quality objective testing.
@blinblinthing 2 жыл бұрын
Boy, you guys are testing EVERYTHING. I'm a windows guy, but these Macbooks are definitely value at there opening price points. Top tier performance for the money. Definitely an easy recommendation.
@chonk442 2 жыл бұрын
What version of DaVinci Resolve was that tho? Cause I've heard that the free version of Resolve for Windows can't use GPU whereas the Mac versions uses GPU even on the free version
@dimitrimoonlight 2 жыл бұрын
M1 Mac ram management and energy efficiency are next level, amazing! Max can you compare with Gigabyte 15.6" AERO 15 Mobile Workstation RTX 3080?
@MauFalcon 2 жыл бұрын
For a minute I thought the Surface Laptop Studio was a M1 MBP. I guess we know where they got their inspiration for the design 🤔😂
@AmeltonGsairus 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So in Windows 11 nothing changed regarding performance, so we can just skip this version at our company.
@sohrabansari2438 11 ай бұрын
will running macOS from external drive can resolve memory swap issue?
@sunnyding602 2 жыл бұрын
test never ends. Thanks Max
@Palalune 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how far behind Windows and x86 are.
@sparkoenig 2 жыл бұрын
Had to look twice to see which one is the windows at first 😆
@CaptainTae Жыл бұрын
Does the Mac’s memory usage include the memory being used by the GPU?
@wossaaaat 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. I suppose the question is whether it's ram optimisation from unified memory, or with macOS. I'd be interested in seeing the difference in ram use between the two 16" intel and the integrated M1. Well done guys. Keep it coming. Very enjoyable.
@wanderingfool6312 2 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see the memory usage on windows 11, once it has been out for a couple of years and had a few hundred updates.
@wyitestar7780 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention we are getting ddr5 soon so, I'm ready to see what happens.
@wanderingfool6312 2 жыл бұрын
@@wyitestar7780 I wasn’t suggesting that Windows 11 would become more optimised as updates roll out, but more bloated and memory hungry, If previous versions of windows are anything to go by.
@epi2045 2 жыл бұрын
As a developer for Win, Mac, Unix/Linux, iOS, and Android for 20+ years… The real test is 6-9 months down the line. Both Win and Android have serious performance degradation. After 1-2 years Win and Android many times needs a full reinstall. Mac, iOS, and Linux/Unix will have very minimal performance degradation.
@TheVikingquest 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats reason i will never buy any android phone ever again. I also dabble in mobile development - android is such a mess that almost all their apps r just worse copies of ios ones, with no privacy and full of 3d party advertizing interupting everything u work on. The functionality between ios/mac os is so much in focus now too. With monterey. Dont get me started on windows/android functions - its not there and never will be. With windows 11 looking like an even worse disaster, hopefully more people will start using macs and the demand for adaptations to apple silicone will hopefully come faster.
@jackyharuhiko 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheVikingquest couldn’t have said it better myself.
@NPC2358 2 жыл бұрын
Android was based on modified Linux kernel. Both Iphone and android smartphone slower overtime due Nvme SSD and UFS degenerated .
@77dris 2 жыл бұрын
I built high end PCs for years and would re-install Windows almost every 6 months, or even sooner if a driver conflict or registry issue completely fubared things. I also would manually go into the registry after every uninstall and try to clean out all the left behind entries when I uninstalled software. It was ridiculous. I got an iMac in 2015 and here I am 6 years later and still the same install and it's just as fast as it was when I got it.
@theotherphil 2 жыл бұрын
@@77dris I had the exact same experience. I was pushing the boundaries with my builds back in the day… my favourite being dual overclocked Athlon XP2400’s on an Iwill MPX2, running at 166fsb speeds and the whole schebang was water cooled. I could never work out if the instability was windows or the system….but I got real good at reinstalling windows which took forever back then 😂
@krishnansrinivasan830 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome & Thanks :)
@justincadet5188 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question… Where do you get your wallpapers?! They are soooo freakin fire 🔥!
@JMacGyver1 2 жыл бұрын
Intel should stop offering chips for laptops and instead just make them for desktop computers, plus then create mini-split style computers where the chips are in a separate wall-mountable outdoor venting heat-sink cooling system. They could then promote them as heating units and it wouldn’t matter as much that they’re using quadruple the amount of energy. It could be a win-win for them, instead of trying to compete with Apple’s M series chips.
@willng34 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you just described intel 12th gen cpu
@JuanCastro-dx1jk 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crabs, this M1 is absolutely fantastic, now seriously changing to Mac
@jamesnavarro9442 2 жыл бұрын
Picking up my 16" soon and I can't wait
@vergissdasnicht 2 жыл бұрын
Great review guys! 👍 This really shows the power of unified memory on the Macs. Having extra dedicated graphics memory on Windows means you have to spend resources (cpu cycles, power, time) for copying data over.
@nicky5593 2 жыл бұрын
The more I use my M1 iMac (16GB RAM) and the more I learn about these machines, I'm really thinking that 16GB Ram is going to be the sweet spot for most uses. I just don't think I could justify 32GB never mind 64GB anytime soon. As if the system needs more memory it simply swaps without the slightest glitch. Frankly it's perfect! 😁
@timmy334 2 жыл бұрын
I also have the M1 iMac 16GB and I couldn't justify anything more. It's wicked fast.
@ko-Daegu 2 жыл бұрын
of course it's not gonna glitch thanks to SE however with more swaps and SSD gate is getting me worried also you are getting slower performance
@jackyharuhiko 2 жыл бұрын
MacRumors argued for many pages about 16/32 LOL and how people use ‘future proof’ as a reason without actually knowing any of their own usage; but anyway it’s their money they can spend it to whatever they want. But now they bring up ‘SSD wear’ it’s totally unacceptable. 🤣
@NOWitsOKto 2 жыл бұрын
What's next? Frying an egg on a Window laptop?
@SahandHooshmand 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a productivity stress test with apps like Microsoft office with very very heavy excel files with many graphs and formulas expanded to thousands of rows, many browser tabs and other related productive apps.
@AussieInJapan 2 жыл бұрын
That battery use was amazing. I’d loved to have seen how just how low the Windows battery would go down before finishing the tasks.
@busybee2148 2 жыл бұрын
its a small Difference like day and night apple unified memory is truly on a diff legue 😉😉😉😉
@thebuddercweeper 2 жыл бұрын
While CPU/GPU performance on the new MacBook Pros is crazy, I think the real revolution with these things is the combination of the unified memory and crazy fast SSDs which seem to give them practically unlimited RAM potential compared to other systems.
@christopherfortineux6937 2 жыл бұрын
The SSDs (modules etc)aren't that fast lol idk why people think 2600MB/s is fast these days. That's basically middle of the road m.2 gen 3 speeds. Gen4 is 5GB/s-7GB/s
@thebuddercweeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherfortineux6937 That’s how fast the SSDs are on M1 devices - fast, but not crazy fast. On the 2021 MacBook Pro’s (which is what I was talking about) they start at between 4 and 5 GB/s and go up to about 7.4GB/s. So yeah, they are *that* fast.
@kathleendelcourt8136 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebuddercweeper Which is still much, much slower than RAM. And these numbers are sequential read/write, if we're talking random reads and small files it'll drop dramatically. Sure SSDs are a much welcome improvement over the old HDD memory swap but they are not remotely fast enough to be used as extended RAM. And I haven't even touched the massive latency gap between RAM and SSDs issue.
@thebuddercweeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathleendelcourt8136 7.4GB/s is right around the high end of DDR2 and the low end of DDR3, that’s why these MacBook Pro’s perform even better even with maxed out Unified Memory than the M1 MacBooks do.
@kathleendelcourt8136 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebuddercweeper Like I said these numbers are BEST case scenario in sequential read/write not the most common use for RAM which is random read. And latency is miles away from RAM modules: SSDs latency is measured in micro secondes, RAM modules in nano seconds. Yeah, literally a thousand times shorter. Bandwith alone in optimal conditions is far from giving the real picture.
@ericluna365 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for a great video. love my iMac and iPad Pro with M1 chip inside.😂 But I’ve been always curious about the performance of surface devices.🧐
@mikeyg6940 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious how the MacBook would do running the same battery of tests running Windows 11 via Parallels against the MS Surface
@pedroarsousa 2 жыл бұрын
Someone send this to iFixit to answer the “does unified memory justify soldering down components” question
@michaeledgar6459 2 жыл бұрын
I legit thought the Windows laptop was the Macbook Air for awhile. If you're just playing catchup with your competition, how will you ever get ahead?
@supersingular 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t need. They just need to copy up until they can compete with price, at that point is a financial decision for most consumer, not about who’s the best.
@joerobertson7709 2 жыл бұрын
Masterful content. Thank you.
@ronpaek100 2 жыл бұрын
Is a 16 inch mbp portable does it fit in a book bag?
@NOT_A_TOP_FAN 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Just what I was looking for. As someone who does a lot of photoshop, Lightroom and illustrator, glad I returned the base M1pro and got the 10 core w/ 32 GB of Ram.
@smallbizdigitalmedia 2 жыл бұрын
I’m probably being thick but not sure I follow your logic as he was giving rave reviews for the base model? Regardless congrats on a great investment for your work :)
@NOT_A_TOP_FAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@smallbizdigitalmedia yes, the base was absolutely handling the workload, but it was also using swap. Which is what I was finding when I was testing then base also (ordered a 32 GB model from Apple and then picked up a base from Best Buy while waiting for it). And the swap is fine (if you have enough SSD), because it clearly can still handle scenarios thrown at it, but I’d like to try and minimize the swap and simply have the 32 Gb of Ram (although I get not everyone can/should do that). I probably phrased my initial comment wrong.
@smallbizdigitalmedia 2 жыл бұрын
@@NOT_A_TOP_FAN thanks for clarifying 👍 I’m probably getting the 16” 10CPU/16GPU 16GB 1TB SSD for 4K video editing and hoping the disk is large enough to use the swap memory adequately. Would go for the Pro Max 32GB option but seeing this as a necessary interim option until the new 27” iMac drops
@Sacto1654 2 жыл бұрын
Here's the big advantage: the Unified Memory Architecture means you don't deal the external memory I/O between the CPU and the GPU chips. Just that right there results in dramatically improved speed.
@kippie80 2 жыл бұрын
And Mach architecture deals with parallelism very well.
@marcteleki2801 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video always fantastic
@cython5150 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing comparison!
@Rhedox1 2 жыл бұрын
Literally nothing tested in this video has anything to do with unified memory. It tests swap (IO speed) and CPU speed...
@Jayesh8881 2 жыл бұрын
13:20 that's really gotta hurt surface. I mean it's flagship for Microsoft and it just blew like a pile of shit.
@rocko44444444 2 жыл бұрын
Are the Intel and Silicone Macs RAM comparable?
@victoriousgangster 2 жыл бұрын
My 8 gig ram laptop from 2016 running just fine. No lag
@kelvinkms3671 2 жыл бұрын
I can feel Nvidia ,Intel and Microsoft are not like to watch this video. This video will destroy their company.
@adhithmathewjacob6612 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering what will be the performance of the 64 gb ram version from Apple against it's competition 🤣
@azanrashid2270 2 жыл бұрын
İ am wondering what bigger iMacs are gonna do when they come...
@theotherphil 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if it is something that’s going to use many GB’s of video ram, there won’t be much competition. At the top end, having a 40GB 3D model in RAM just isn’t possible on any other laptop….I don’t think there’s any with >16Gb VRAM available.
@lucar95gg 2 жыл бұрын
@@azanrashid2270 It is rumored that the iMac or Mac Pro will come with a motherboard capable of using two or four M1 Max chips at the same time.
@raoulshah 2 жыл бұрын
How bad is SWAP for your Macbook? What is the swap lifespan regarding a macbook?
@JonPais 2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you travel into the future and tell us
@brightboxstudio 2 жыл бұрын
Macs have had non-removable SSDs since 2016. Yet after half a decade, there have not been reports of even those earliest SSDs dying. It does not appear to be a problem. While SSDs have a finite lifetime, it appears it is more years than how long many people will keep the same computer.
@raoulshah 2 жыл бұрын
@@brightboxstudio thks, Not sure whether to use 16 or 32 RAM memory. For the M1 pro 10 core 16 gpu
@franjoeric4017 2 жыл бұрын
great review
@avijitkumar3293 2 жыл бұрын
Apple has made a great start with it's m1 silicon. The m2 and m3 will show whether apple silicon will be a long term competitor or not.
@Dmarcoot 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone else has to catch up
@birajshrestha7947 2 жыл бұрын
I found this channel randomly; it is really a channel that produces quality content.❤ MacBook Pro here we go 🔥
@phillipcesar 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see a Mac with same intel specs as a windows machine to see which OS have the best RAM management.
@Mohammad-vn9bm 2 жыл бұрын
Would you please compare the performance on Windows 11 vs Windows 10?
@MTN1601 2 жыл бұрын
M1 pro/max macbook pro: destroys windows 11 Modular laptop lovers: *NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*
@DanieleDiSarli 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, but comparing ram usage like that does not really make sense. Free ram is wasted ram, so it makes perfect sense for a system to fill it up as much as possible with information that it may need, if space allows.
@thegatewaytoprestige 2 жыл бұрын
But the point here was under intense and heavy workloads, one of these machines is going to continue performing without so much as a glitch or stutter and the other will be brought to its knees. It absolutely matters for folks that use these kinds of workloads myself included.
@maze400 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Max, could you do this same test with the Samsung P\15" Pro 360? 1TD and 16 gigs.
@LL-qm3sl 2 жыл бұрын
Is swaps used a normal thing, I have 16 and by only using chrome, safari and some native low power apps, it easily reaches 8-12 gb of swaps used.
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