Maybe not obvious hammock tips

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Todd Fahrner

Todd Fahrner

Күн бұрын

Stuff I’ve learned over 9 years hanging every night, especially the last few months thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. Shot in the high Sierra.
Hammock is a Warbonnet Blackbird XLC with Wooki underquilt and Diamondback topquilt, both 20°F-rated. With the Warbonnet underquilt protector (that also works as a gear sling) have stayed warm to 15°F in low/no-wind conditions above 11,000’ (Mather Pass).
I have not slept outside of my hammock on this whole trip, including the 700 miles of tree-sparse desert, thanks to Tensa Trekking Treez, trekking poles that convert to a hammock stand as needed. I’m half the company.

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@ravenfix
@ravenfix 3 күн бұрын
Wonderful tips here! Thank you for the great video
@sundaymorninghikes6275
@sundaymorninghikes6275 Ай бұрын
Some great ideas here! Love the layering with the quilt protector and the UQ and I definitely need to try that chair mode!
@LousyFIBs
@LousyFIBs 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Lots of good info. Especially the use of the wind protector as storage. Or even the Underquilt as storage. Hadn’t thought of that.
@Rabbagazten
@Rabbagazten Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the input ( and the output thereof) and the information. Bought a UQ protector and top cover due to this. The UQ Protector is priceless and makes a whole difference. Have made myself a small elastic from the head ends continuous loop, and it serves a nice purpose.
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp Жыл бұрын
A friend also added elastic to my UQP ends after I ripped it due to lack of strain relief. I may still mod the UQP to zip to itself over the top of the ridgeline to act as a "lazy slug tube" containing all quilts, sleep clothes, etc for fast cramming into pack and redeployment.
@three-cats-photography
@three-cats-photography 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be super interested to see a video about hangs (pitches?) using the poles when you don't have any trees.
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp 2 жыл бұрын
Check www.tensaoutdoor.com/tensa-trekking-treez-on-the-pacific-crest-trail/?v=7516fd43adaa. There’s instructional video on the product page, and print docs. I will revise docs with new insights gleaned on trip after hike.
@zacsav4ge100
@zacsav4ge100 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of having the feet up. Its like kicking up a lazy chair and the circulation is a great benefit as well.
@kentwood9821
@kentwood9821 Жыл бұрын
Great demo, beautiful area!
@rpsota23
@rpsota23 Жыл бұрын
I decided to pack setup differently. DDhammock makes a "sleeve". This is a cca 10cm sleeve in diameter, which stays at one end of my hammock till I want to packit. Then I pull it from one end to another like a sock and all my setup is covered in it. It doesn't take underquilt and sleeping bag, however all the rest including underquilt protector is there. This "sock" then packed in seatosummit compression sack. Same sleeve I use to pack my tarp. Super easy and quick setup. Basically you tie to the tree just a thin tube (sock), just after that you strip the sleeve. Another point to Todd video. I was not happy with hiding stuff in the underquilt protector. I discovered a "hammock for stuff" - again from DDhammock. Small and simple piece of cloth tied to ends of my hammock, situated just below the underquilt. It takes 25kgs, so easily you fit there your shoes, even whole bag. You reach it easily from hammock if needed. Tested yesterday (winter, freezing).
@daviddevine1757
@daviddevine1757 5 ай бұрын
Great on the trail info more people should do this because its the little things ye forget when your home. . I've been dreaming of this hammock 😅 one day..
@sundaymorninghikes6275
@sundaymorninghikes6275 Жыл бұрын
Some great ideas here! Thanks for sharing them. I'm going to try the foot end higher like that next time I'm out - makes sense with what you said about it. How do you like the Trekking Treez? I've been eyeing them up. How's the fidget factor with them?
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp Жыл бұрын
I make the Treez with my business partner, so am biased. Of the 3 stands we make, they are the most fiddly, and require practice. But I won't hike without them if there's any question of suitable trees and spacing: I have no go-to-ground option. I wrote up my PCT experience with them on the Tensa Outdoor blog in 3 articles.
@cougarmeat8803
@cougarmeat8803 9 ай бұрын
Sure, the Ponderosa is going to do more damage to your webbing than the webbing to the bark - but you could put some sticks parallel to the tree trunk between the webbing and the bark. Gives a good example for someone not sensitive to the type of tree. Also, if you are in an "official" campsite, the park host/ranger won't care that the bark is iron-strong. If you use wide straps or the stick idea, it will eliminate an annoying conversation. I love the UQP because I don't have to set my UQ perfectly. It doesn't have to "seal" - it's more of a wind block. UQP's are great. My UQP's are all suspended/connected with shock cord. The purpose of the feet elevated is to prevent sliding (nylon is slippery) toward the foot end. Next time, please show the pack fully packed. I'm curious how it fits with that bear canister. Thank you for the video. People need to know a hammock is a viable option. If there's an area with no trees - just put a ground cloth down, suspend your tarp between your trekking poles, lay the hammock on the ground cloth, and lift the bug net up off your face by tying it on your poles. Oops - you'll still need some kind of pad. A ¾ length pad isn't too big/heavy. The comfort is worth the redundancy of carrying a UQ and a small pad.
@MichaelAstrom
@MichaelAstrom Жыл бұрын
Great tips! Thank you for sharing. I also think about the enhanchment request for the underquilt protector, so you can zip the whole setup in one package, great thinking. Warbonnet listen … smarter and the best, can be even smarter, something for Gen 3 ?
@gavinmnolan8227
@gavinmnolan8227 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer my hammock foot end to be a lot higher too. I find it way more comfortable for me.
@corrietoscana5869
@corrietoscana5869 Жыл бұрын
My feet fall asleep if my feet are too high even with a diagonal lay
@gavinmnolan8227
@gavinmnolan8227 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video
@gordon9163
@gordon9163 2 жыл бұрын
Have you measured the temperature in the space between the UQP and the UQ? I’m having a hard time believing that space stays above freezing when the temperature is
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t. You are correct that it’s not a foolproof way to keep above freezing, but does help some. I did note some crystals forming in water bottle kept there on a cold night (low unknown), while inch of water left outside in pot was frozen solid. Of course, putting between hammock and UQ would be more reliable, but I find that too much stashed there can lead to draftiness.
@rpsota23
@rpsota23 Жыл бұрын
@@cleverchimp just testing my setup, luckily I have garmin tempe sensor. I will try.
@rpsota23
@rpsota23 Жыл бұрын
Hello, this night no wind, high humidity. Warbonnet XLC DD, bugnet, thermarest mattress with alu inside, tailor made UQ 14F, Warmpeace Wiking 600 sleeping bag. After 4hours (just to make heat flow stable), 33,6F at the botton of the UQP (not touching ground), 43,9F at the ridge line inside bugnet, 33,1F at the shockcord, 31,5F 6feet far from hammock same height as shockcord measurement had. Always cca 10min waiting to stabilize sensor temperature. Measured by Garmin Tempe sensor. So there is a difference between outer temperature and inside the UQP. However wind can wipe out any difference, on other side, my strong insulation below me could stop any heat radiation down. My idea behind purchasing warbonnet UQP was to stop wind flowing between hammock and UQ and hide my stuff in case I have to leave my place for a moment and enviroment is not "friendly". Small hammock for stuff just below UQ do the job to hide stuff and protect it against wind and rain, wet socks lay at the UQ to dry during night.
@freethinker5225
@freethinker5225 Жыл бұрын
I like my feet up but I have bad circulation as I'm pretty lanky so just barely above my head is perfect... also just got my xlc in the mail I still don't have and underquilt and I know wind really sucks the heat out of me
@beerfrog_TheOriginal
@beerfrog_TheOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
You should be able to connect your protector zipper to your bug net zipper and sort of leave the hammock and Wookiee itself cocooned freely inside that “shell”
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp 2 жыл бұрын
Tried that. Kind of hated it. I think i like the subtle ways the bugnet attached to hammock affects the lay.
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp 2 жыл бұрын
Also the UQP if connected to itself would be closer to a snug stuffable tube with quilts inside, while the UQP attached direct to bugnet remains a very loose package liable to tangling when stuffing.
@rpsota23
@rpsota23 Жыл бұрын
@@cleverchimp I prefer UQP to be connected to the bugnet. It gives me feeling that the wind blows around me, not inside the setup. Just a feeling 🙂
@MrJarred78
@MrJarred78 2 жыл бұрын
Tip: Tie a loop on the the end of your continous loop so that you can easily pull the becket hitch out and save your hands.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9SnpLOB1tu0gqc.html
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was vaguely aware of this tip, but insufficiently motivated. I just tied an overhand knot in the continuous loops themselves, shortening them for even more flexibility hanging in tight spots, and the knot against the Becket functions as advertised to make untying easy.
@tensacrew
@tensacrew 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips, BUT be VERY careful about eating in your sleeping area. Any food smells you leave there can attract bears and other critters.
@cleverchimp
@cleverchimp 2 жыл бұрын
Acknowledged. I do not cook in camp, only for lunch underway. Also I avoid camping in established sites where critters are habituated. Finally, had bear canister. These absolutely savage mosquitoes would make you either eat in hammock or skip eating altogether.
@jamesmceraghan9165
@jamesmceraghan9165 Жыл бұрын
Get A SNAKE SKIN
@tensacrew
@tensacrew Жыл бұрын
I own snakeskins. I use a mesh one for my tarp only. As developed by Hennessy, a hammock snakeskin contains only the hammock, not quilts and bedclothes. There are products described as lazy slug tubes that contain all. I think Anaconda is a new trademark for same. I want my underquilt protector/gear sling to convert to a lazy slug tube. I don't want to carry a separate lazy slug tube when the UQP is so close to being redundant.
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