McCarty's Peculiar Revolver

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6 жыл бұрын

William McCarty patented this turret revolver design in 1909 (submitted in 1908, approved in 1909), with the idea of making a high capacity revolver. His gun held 18 rounds of .22 rimfire ammunition - double the typical .22 revolver capacity. He did that by making a vertical turret system with a large ring to hold the 18 rounds, which in turn made the gun pretty bulky. I had a reader send me a copy of his patent back in 2013, and at the time I didn’t know that one had ever been actually made. Well, there was one - it’s here and also documented in Louis Winant’s book “Firearms Curiosa”. Not surprisingly, the design never made it into mass production…
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@RockIslandAuctionCompany 6 жыл бұрын

> "It's gone a bit full circle..." > turret revolver ಠ_ಠ

@Chevypotamus 6 жыл бұрын

oof

@wierdalien1 6 жыл бұрын

Rock Island Auction Company dont hold back say what you really think

@Isaac-ho8gh 6 жыл бұрын

Rock Island Auction Company KZfaq thinks your comment was posted three weeks ago, RIA is the future lel

@ajhayden3307 6 жыл бұрын

Isaac Raschke he made this video in advance and only patreon supporters get private links to watch his early videos before its uploaded on YT. ( i think take this with a grain of salt )

@RockIslandAuctionCompany 6 жыл бұрын

@lefr33man - NEVER!

@NebulousSpacePotato 5 жыл бұрын

"guys cmon don't reinvent the wheel." "But what if we made the wheel a GUN?"

@antoniobeltranthesumosnipe8634 5 жыл бұрын

This is Remnant. EVERYTHING is also a gun.

@jakublulek3261 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, revolvers are sometimes called wheel guns, right?

@PenumbranWolf 3 жыл бұрын

"Jacobs!"

@Bakie.o 2 жыл бұрын

🇺🇸

@curious5661 6 жыл бұрын

A reverse Henry. A gun you can shoot on sunday and takes a week to reload.

@RockIslandAuctionCompany 6 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@dELTA13579111315 5 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar they should make a betamag for it at least

@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar probably would have been done after a couple trips to the range with those prototypes. I would have added a thumb stud to help push the top cover.

@johnnycovenant2286 3 жыл бұрын

Nah I'd say that's the American 180 especially if you have trouble with over a hundred .22s

@aidanflanigan9532 3 жыл бұрын

Rock Island Auction Company why hello there 👋

@ieuanhunt552 6 жыл бұрын

Looking at this gun it's not surprising that clock makers and gunsmiths had a lot of overlap back in the day.

@xmm-cf5eg 6 жыл бұрын

You're looking at this and I'm just thinking about the G-11 rifle internal's.

@mathildadeer 6 жыл бұрын

keith moore sword smiths use lots of spring steal too but they lack the experience with tiny moving parts

@passonthestar3689 5 жыл бұрын

@keith moore A little more than that. Both know how to get small moving parts working properly

@hutchtv7640 5 жыл бұрын

Isn't it ironic!? Don't ya think??😂

@illwayz313 5 жыл бұрын

It really just goes full circle.

@korblborp 5 жыл бұрын

looking back on this now, it kind of reminds me of the Zip22. it certainly has the "how the heck am i supposed to hold this thing" aspect to it!

@CptJistuce 2 жыл бұрын

It was truly ahead of its time.

@AlexR2648 6 жыл бұрын

'Did he fire eighteen shots or only seventeen?' Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a McCarty Turret Revolver, the most unwieldy handgun in the world, and would wound your head somewhat, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?

@goose4781 5 жыл бұрын

Genius

@TheSchmed 5 жыл бұрын

A lot Dirtier Harry

@TheSchmed 5 жыл бұрын

“Callahan, turn in your badge and your 20 pound handgun !”

@richpurslow3283 5 жыл бұрын

class

@jeffreystroman2811 5 жыл бұрын

AlexR2648 ok, you made me laugh out loud with that comment, much obliged

@JohanKylander 6 жыл бұрын

Looks like a musical instrument.

@coreyg7575 6 жыл бұрын

Don't put your mouth up to it

@gcart7675 5 жыл бұрын

it is it plays the song of freedom

4 жыл бұрын

@@gcart7675 freedom for the spirit from the body

@jeramysteve3394 4 жыл бұрын

I hear it frees the soul.

@erikm12 4 жыл бұрын

It only plays doots of death

@thegoldencaulk2742 6 жыл бұрын

That's the stupidest looking revolver I think I've ever seen. I'll take 2.

@austinbartose6527 6 жыл бұрын

Lol

@tetsuoswrath 5 жыл бұрын

Who the hell needs 36 rounds of .22LR?!? Will someone please think of the children?!? X{D

@cdgonepotatoes4219 5 жыл бұрын

I'll take 6: 2 for each hand, 1 for each foot

@tonttu1233 5 жыл бұрын

@@jurgensebastiancortescueva8147 Your comment makes me rage. Why do you think your opinion is relevant in any way? Let those guys joke around and move on.

@HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat 4 жыл бұрын

@TreeWizard648 6 жыл бұрын

This looks like something that should have been invented 40 or 50 years before it was actually made. It would fit right in with all of the weird guns of the 1850s or 1860s.

@jasondoe2596 6 жыл бұрын

TreeWizard648, my thoughts exactly!

@mysss29 6 жыл бұрын

I may have missed the patent date earlier in the video, because at the end I sat here dumbfounded thinking it was 60 years too late. In my head I was saying, "no, of course it'd be .22. short...."

@IxodesPersulcatus 4 жыл бұрын

Wheeliam McCarty's patented CartWheel revolver. This is what happens when you put a coffee mug on your blueprints.

@misteryman5109 6 жыл бұрын

It's so heavy that it has a AR style carry handle!

@AWESOME2715 5 жыл бұрын

Finally, its the high-capacity Assault revolver everyone's been talking about!

@Elwould23 6 жыл бұрын

Simple, elegant and clumsy design.

@khamuldergroe5662 6 жыл бұрын

one of those guys Nice profile pic. the dude abides

@spudgunn8695 6 жыл бұрын

one of those guys elegant AND clumsy? Bit of an oxymoronic statement there, mate!

@baron8107 6 жыл бұрын

one of those guys It'd be pretty cheap to reproduce today.

@aserta 6 жыл бұрын

But isn't that what we love the most ? :)

@Elwould23 6 жыл бұрын

Luke, that's, just...like, your, opinion Man. Someone needs a hug.

@sniperblast 6 жыл бұрын

As silly as this gun is, we have to admire the maker for coming up with a new idea and building it. The only way to find out if an idea is practical is to build it.

@matthewpalmer7184 6 жыл бұрын

It's utterly awkward, overly complex, effectively obsolete when it was designed, and useless in the modern era I want it

@Meowystery 6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Palmer It kind of looks steampunky in a way

@matthewpalmer7184 6 жыл бұрын

Aye, it really does. Slap some brass gears on it!

@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewpalmer7184 steampunk is about having *working* gears and other overcomplicated mechanisms, sir!

@Bialy_1 4 жыл бұрын

@@ScottKenny1978 so it is not a steampunk as it is not complicated at all...

@Bearthedancingman 4 жыл бұрын

🤣👍👍👍👍

@ianmacfarlane1241 6 жыл бұрын

Would it not have worked better on a rifle? Got to admire these innovative thinkers, even if their ideas are occasionally ridiculous.

@maxwell120L55 6 жыл бұрын

They kinda did, the Porter turret rifle is a good example

@kickazz9473 5 жыл бұрын

This was my thought also. It reminded me of the chain revolver. Another design that would be terrific on a rifle!

@victorselve8349 5 жыл бұрын

The difference between a genius inventor and a crackpot is that one had enough luck to end up on something that stood the test of time.

@Ezekiel_Allium 4 жыл бұрын

@@kickazz9473 if you're thinking of the Guycot chain gun, there were absolutely rifle versions, they held 100 shots! If you meant the actual revolver with the more traditional chain, there was also rifle that's kinda similar to that, though the name currently escapes me. Edit: I was thinking of the Treeby Chain Gun

@kickazz9473 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ezekiel_Allium wow those are cool I had never seen/heard of either of those! Thanks

@myramadd6651 6 жыл бұрын

I dunno. It's impractical. It's Awkward. It's out of my price range... I LOVE IT!

@anrew4425 6 жыл бұрын

Myra Madd its a simple design, a machinist could probably fabricate it

@gcart7675 4 жыл бұрын

Avitus Nonius Midwestern Legion look up ecco machine he does way better than this to be honest

@Chevypotamus 6 жыл бұрын

High capacity assault revolver. You know what to do.

@raffica3579 6 жыл бұрын

Cat BAN

@blackbaron9544 6 жыл бұрын

I'll only buy it if it has a tactical rail to mount my under barrel assualt chainsaw.

@hansheden 6 жыл бұрын

Mud test?

@firepower7017 6 жыл бұрын

Lee Enfield You can't Ban it yet, you gotta nerf it. Lose 10% capacity for 5% firing speed it also has additional recoil and projectile speed is increased by 20%

@shawnr771 6 жыл бұрын

what about the bayonet lug??

@VladLogimane 6 жыл бұрын

Gota love prototypes. Always so interesting.

@SeraphinaPZ 6 жыл бұрын

"Early attempt at a high capacity revolver", the key word being attempt. That thing has great ergonomics.

@serge00storms 6 жыл бұрын

Assault Frisbee

@dawnslayer 3 жыл бұрын

Underrated. Fucking. Comment

@RokuroCarisu 3 жыл бұрын

18 shots missed - lethal throw.

@rifles_up2263 6 жыл бұрын

This thing was loaded at the factory and had to be sent back to be re-loaded😂

@icebluscorpion 5 жыл бұрын

Apple style XD

@kjamison5951 4 жыл бұрын

Brandon roberts Walmart had a reload service where you got it back in a week but this was reduced to a one-hour service…

@montyfatcat8871 4 жыл бұрын

NATO underwater pistol anyone?

@WitchyWagonReal 6 жыл бұрын

This seems like it would be a really cool CAD and/or 3D printer project to recreate... seems simple enough, and would probably work okay if your math and machining is good. Nobody is gonna come after you for the patent, so... I hope it is somebody's weekend project 😊

@MrDsturman 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not even into firearms but I love this channel, it’s so interesting and extremely well informed, I love the historical context as well as all the mechanical breakdowns!

@criffermaclennan 6 жыл бұрын

Can't imagine why it never caught on 😂😂

@firepower7017 6 жыл бұрын

Christopher MacLennan Can't imagine why the holy handgrenade caught on

@VonRammsteyn 6 жыл бұрын

Seems easyer to overcome drug adiction than to reload and fire this thing...

@bobthebuilder1360 5 жыл бұрын

Let's find out

@Wavemaninawe 5 жыл бұрын

Looks more like a compelling argument to why drugs dont belong in engineering.

@johncox2865 3 жыл бұрын

No way.

@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 3 жыл бұрын

@@Wavemaninawe drugs definitely belong in engineering, Steve Jobs got all his ideals from LSD for example.. And Trump got his ideals from crack cocaine, he was able to do really well in the debates by being insanely cracked out.

@CptJistuce 2 жыл бұрын

@@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 Sorry, we said engineering. Jobs was in marketing.

@tz8785 6 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the reloading door have to be inside the ring to actually function? At least it should with any current rimmed, tapered or bottlenecked cartridge, it might work with one of those reverse tapered patent circumvention oddities or maybe with an entirely straight one.

@steamboatmodel 5 жыл бұрын

One inside and one outside.

@noobulon4334 4 жыл бұрын

Poke the old cartridge through the trigger... (doughnut?) With a rod and load in reverse?

@petemasta99 6 жыл бұрын

it looks like a brake disk lol

@gcart7675 5 жыл бұрын

it is it stops whoever you need to shoot with it

@eyesofstatic9641 4 жыл бұрын

@@gcart7675 nice

@vikingbraid7515 3 жыл бұрын

“It’s gone full circle” Lol, good one

@realitymatters8720 6 жыл бұрын

I love the thinking in this mecanism... nice !

@FloorManiac 6 жыл бұрын

By far, this is the coolest gun I’ve seen you present on this show. So cool. Thanks!

@daleparker4207 4 жыл бұрын

That was really great. I've never seen one of these. Thank you

@yeyito3676 6 жыл бұрын

2:02 Fires AROUND!!!! hahahahaha

@frenchfry1659 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Ian, keep it up whether it’s on KZfaq or anything else, just keep up the awesome work

@peterhopkins4748 6 жыл бұрын

I love these weird and wonderful and impractical designs of this period. Nobody seemed to know quite what was the right or wrong way to design a gun and they were all trying to avoid infringing each others patents. Keep up the good work, Ian.

@brostelio 5 жыл бұрын

Best narrator I've ever come across! I Love his work.

@prjndigo 6 жыл бұрын

Wrap music wire around the rim inside and make the hammer operate off the ring and you'd have a rip-roarin-rapid-rotary-revolver!

@radracer2033 6 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I was expecting it to be the same sort of size as one of those Chicago pocket pistols

@sladjan0705 6 жыл бұрын

Mike Stroz Same. Turns out it’s massive

@MrCh0o 5 жыл бұрын

But then what would it shoot? Kolibri rounds?

@eze417 Жыл бұрын

Some of these guns you demonstrate are just plain bizarre, but they're interesting. I've been designing a pistol (and a carbine too) with a lot of outside-the-box features that I thought were totally original, only to learn that someone else had the same idea many years earlier.

@Hyakuningiri 6 жыл бұрын

Nice, I was looking forward to see a video on this gun.

@Rickenbacker69 6 жыл бұрын

Really beautiful construction of a really stupid idea :).

@Chester200100 6 жыл бұрын

Bullets pointing at you in a magazine is a stupid idea, but its far more dangerous with black powder guns where chainfire is a more common problem.

@benn454 6 жыл бұрын

Platfus Rodzer You can easily survive getting your fingers blown off. Taking a few rounds to the face might be a bit harder.

@michaelfurgessons2896 6 жыл бұрын

benn454 There are reasons we need barrels even small ones and that is to help build up the pressure and guide the projectile.The rounds in the other chambers if they explode (extremely unlikely,maybe even impossible) they are not gonna act like bullets but more like an extremely wimpy hand grenade.So in the end even if it fails the result wont be too different from a mosern pistol failing.

@personalaccount186 6 жыл бұрын

r/ATBGE

@mordecaieagle4240 6 жыл бұрын

Plausible risk with this type of guns is hang fire.

@GnuReligion 6 жыл бұрын

Now, this one is a forgotten weapon. Really like its simplicity though.

@undeadzerg8758 Жыл бұрын

I love seeing these weird early guns. It's interesting seeing all these outlandish designs people came up with before a handful of designs dominated the market.

@brittongolfwang 6 жыл бұрын

thank you for your service

@perochialjoe 6 жыл бұрын

When I saw that thumbnail I was expecting some kind of palm pistol. Then the video started and holy shit that thing is gigantic.

@JayRussellDuramax 4 жыл бұрын

Reloading Instructions: 1. Throw at nearest enemy. 2. Grab a new gun. 3. Repeat until gun supply is depleted.

@jays.6843 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Tediore gun insurance.

@xXHurdyGurdyManXx 4 ай бұрын

Haha nice@@jays.6843

@idiola 6 жыл бұрын

Why is Ian the most interesting guy in existence. Seriously. I love these videos 75% because of Ian, 25% because of these cool ass guns.

@dcurry7287 3 жыл бұрын

It can be the wildest, weirdest, most obscure firearm in the world and Ian has a years-old blog post and dry pun for it.

@idiola 3 жыл бұрын

@@dcurry7287 we forever love gun jesus

@beez1717 5 жыл бұрын

It's so darn simple and I'm surprised it wasn't thought of earlier!

@jordanwong7902 6 жыл бұрын

it looks like a pistol version of that assault rifle from Deus Ex

@batmangovno 5 жыл бұрын

Which one?

@roteba1 6 жыл бұрын

Sad to see such innovation to so little effect.

@mobspeak 6 жыл бұрын

I love all the weird guns you find.

@flare9757 5 жыл бұрын

This works in a similar way to one of my hypothetical twin 5” gun designs. 6 slot drum per gun, each drum rotating towards the center of the turret. As the drums are the breaches, they don’t work like a Gatling gun, as this drum locks in place behind the barrel to fire. Once the shell has been fired, it rotates to the upper center area center position, then the case is ejected out the front of the gun. In the bottom center, the drum slot is reloaded. The turret does not fire both barrels at the same time, but one at a time. So when the left gun fires, it’s recoil resets the right gun, and the right guns recoil arms the left gun. This is primarily to reduce the built up heat in the guns while increasing the fire rate when compared to a modern 5” gun turret.

@skuzzyj 6 жыл бұрын

That thing is neat. Kinda weird, kinda dumb, but... very interesting.

@Gunneramma 4 жыл бұрын

I saw the thumbnail and thought it was one of those car wheels to play Mario cart wii

@teamcouplespokemon598 6 жыл бұрын

Your a genius brother. You need 1 million followers. Anyone could pitch you any gun and you could tell them every detail about it

@americanrebel413 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, thank you for sharing this.

@GunFunZS 6 жыл бұрын

That cylinder must be very prone to friction. Also cross threading on the cover plate. An interrupted thread or snap catch would have made more sense.

@matthewbivens1299 6 жыл бұрын

GunFun ZS same thought

@alexanderf8451 6 жыл бұрын

What a clever bit of engineering and geometry. Shame about everything else.

3 жыл бұрын

Nice review broooo!!!!

@danield2685 2 жыл бұрын

Thinking outside the box. Gotta love it

@GreatgoatonFire 6 жыл бұрын

IF you wanted to make something better out of a design like this would it be a good idea to have a thumbhole where the trigger is now and have a grip with trigger on the outside of the cylinder?

@Goonygoon84 6 жыл бұрын

With the trigger outside the cylinder you then have the issue of needing to go around the cylinder with a trigger bar. Not a bad idea, but it would take some extra tinkering.

@GreatgoatonFire 6 жыл бұрын

Nawww man, you go full on "anachronism stew" and use electrically primed ammo like the Remington EtronX.

@mysss29 6 жыл бұрын

anachronism stew XD

@Evirthewarrior 6 жыл бұрын

This is where the Rhino got its design?

@mysss29 6 жыл бұрын

the resemblance is...uncanny

@737Garrus 4 жыл бұрын

With the fully internal hammer, yes. I love the "carry handle" above the barrel tho'.

@IraqiManChan 6 жыл бұрын

I have always wanted to see this gun!

@cplmackk1 Жыл бұрын

That is by far one of the most unique pistols ive ever seen. Not at all practical but, cool non the less.

@ozdavemcgee2079 6 жыл бұрын

A bit steampunkish lol

@DerDoctor69 6 жыл бұрын

Last time i was this early Ian wore a red shirt

@thedevilinthecircuit1414 3 жыл бұрын

The grip: index finger through that large oval above the barrel (see that chamfer there to make it comfy?) and probably middle or ring finger through the trigger guard on the trigger. The pinky goes through the little ring at the bottom.

@edwhitson9873 3 жыл бұрын

I like it, alot of potential with this design

@swamprat69er 6 жыл бұрын

not very practical after firing all 18 shots

@MrAlumni72 6 жыл бұрын

Unless a turn-of-the-century game of frisbee broke out.

@ErwinPommel 6 жыл бұрын

If you fire 18 shots at someone and they keep coming, you deserve what happens next.

@mohammad_joo 6 жыл бұрын

Stop the battle for 2 hours to reload your gun 😂

@nodo7575 4 жыл бұрын

Or before.

@flatsurfaces1913 6 жыл бұрын

Is this not an AOW as it just doesn't look like a gun? At all. Also if it chain fires, you lose the whole hand.

@MikeDCWeld 6 жыл бұрын

The Cynical Boy nope. The barrel and trigger are easily distinguishable and even the most sheltered would likely identify it as a gun.

@magnoliamike 3 жыл бұрын

I love this channel!!!!

@SuperTrunkspace 3 жыл бұрын

Really cool to see how much of that gun is incorporated into a single casting. Production costs would probably be pretty low as a result.

@JenniferinIllinois 6 жыл бұрын

Hmm, looks like something that California politicians would say needs to be implemented on all firearms. You know, disassembly required to reload. LOL!

@lankyGigantic 4 жыл бұрын

The best part about this channel are just the super weird guns, like this, the poacher guns and the craft made guns.

@pintrat2600 6 жыл бұрын

Hi ian im a long time viewer and i have to say this is one of the most informative gun channels on youtube. Im just inquiring about the ww1 expedition you plan to do later this year. When will this take place? Kind regards Eoin Lucey

$@skullfracture2$

@skullfracture2 Жыл бұрын

“Full-circle” Oh Ian, you slay us!

@illwayz313 5 жыл бұрын

I like that the round revolver went full circle!

@hellishgrin4604 6 жыл бұрын

I have to say, it's probably one of my favorite firing mechanisms now.

@benec5816 6 жыл бұрын

Just shows what someone who has an idea can come up with thanks for showing

@shkelanton71 6 жыл бұрын

You're the only content maker I like before I watch

@TheHylianJuggalo 5 жыл бұрын

You're one of the few channels whose thumbnails cannot be clickbait, and I am compelled the click on them whenever I see these psychotic looking weapons

@abhishekgourav6144 4 жыл бұрын

People did make some really weird guns back in the days..i love it

@CompComp 6 жыл бұрын

Do these auction houses ever let you take these awesome guns to the range? Also I'm glad to see you're still on YT I love your videos keep up the good work.

@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын

I shoot a selection of guns at the James Julia auction house, but it's not practical at Rock Island for several reasons.

@scj8863 4 жыл бұрын

I was listening to this while I was driving. When he said there was a wheel of cylinders, I was amazed and was trying to figure out how that could work. Went back to the video when I got home and was disappointed

@00Monkeyz 6 жыл бұрын

You know that looks like something that would be fun just to machine out of a block and play with to see if you could make it at all practical.

@madrenwillims4391 Жыл бұрын

0:28 made me die. No joke I crawled off my bed from laughter at “full circle” I shouldn’t have

@vokkoa5560 Жыл бұрын

what a wild design!!

@Mrcaffinebean 6 жыл бұрын

Ahhh I remember reading that blog post forever ago!

@bellakaldera3305 6 жыл бұрын

So cool! It needs a larger caliber, a detachable shoulder stock and a longer barrel though!

@7come11two 4 жыл бұрын

A beautifully simple mechanism.

@ethanmccarty5732 2 жыл бұрын

Incredible

@juuuniper1 3 жыл бұрын

“this has gone a bit full circle” i’m inclined to agree

@techtrip8942 2 жыл бұрын

angle of the dangle allows for a higher setting shaft too

@adamdavis3756 6 жыл бұрын

what a wild gun!

@squirrelonmapletree 6 жыл бұрын

Say, 100 years from now or so, this video might be a really valuable historical record I think.

@kharchenkonikolay4331 4 жыл бұрын

Sehr schön, und guter Flasche offener

@DavidBrown-cp2vm 6 жыл бұрын

McCarty's Peculiar sounds like an Irish beer !! Firearms, aviation and automobiles, to name a few categories, have such splendid arrays of ingenious "also rans". I love these just as much as the well-known winners, a lot of creative thought went into all of them. Love your videos. P.S. Some tank designs are fascinatingly bad also.

@GrasshopperKelly 4 жыл бұрын

Angling the cartridge barrel, also permits additional space. Perhaps only one, maybe two. But do to opening space on the enner edge of the circle (I'll just say Pythagoras theorum to keep it short).