armor actually should be really good, since more armor means less damage taken and less mana drained
@cam91442 жыл бұрын
This definitely needs another video. I would love to see full dungeons runs posted just to chill and watch while I'm working on the side during the day
@MegaDeathraiser2 жыл бұрын
Builds like this is what made me love ascension. Always wanted a caster tank. I loved an old video you made with a fire tank. Absolutely love those very hight fantasy. Deledrael - Al'ar
@patrickmurray38462 жыл бұрын
ya need dodge/parry even as a mana tank. anything to reduce/prevents dam before it even hits you (or in case of mana tank, draining mana)
@crazynick960002 жыл бұрын
Came down here to comment the same thing and seen this comment. I see most running around with a shield because I think dodge/parry/armor is calculated first and the remaining damage done to you hits the mana forged barrier.
@TheShinyDunsparce2 жыл бұрын
There's the RE mind over matter which is basically for this tank. So you can build for straight mana and not worry about other mitagation. But you still want a shield for the armor and defense stat
@Doolz512 жыл бұрын
Not to mention don’t face your back to mobs while tanking to take advantage of those things. He does that quite a bit 😂
@FaMousAzur2 жыл бұрын
@@TheShinyDunsparce I use mind over matter and i have 1093 defense. its like 23% for npcs to just miss in gen. 15k life with 21k mana.
@burningdragon912 жыл бұрын
@@Doolz51 If you use mind over matter you actually can turn your back. You cant dodge or parry anymore, but have a high chance to be missed, which even works from behind.
@mateocardenas99762 жыл бұрын
Your videos the reason I started playing ascension. Keep up the good work and keep help building the community like you do. Chozen
@z42622 жыл бұрын
Aye! I've been waiting for you to try out this build and put your own creative spin on it. Nicely done and keep up the good work.
@Gingermorso2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely take Defensive Magic ERE with this for the dodges, parrys and block and go with shield for this build - Hoitsu, Alar
@Bobiguy2 жыл бұрын
This was my first tank build on ascension and I gotta say you built it very well. Though I decided to go for a dagger and shield for threat generation plus I used the rare RE to increase threat generated through arcane damage by 30%. I also used some different talents with more dodge, parry, and block. Another video of this build would be amazing! Tyralon - Al'ar
@MegaHolyCat2 жыл бұрын
If you aren't going to go for an avoidance I would run the RE "Mind over Matter" Which converts your int into defense rating which will help make you crit immune. Also your best defensive cooldown is probably dispersion, reduces damage and restores mana.
@SplatastictheRealOne2 жыл бұрын
McDoubs rocking a new channel profile pic. Looks awesome man. 💖🌟✨💖
@Mcdoubles2 жыл бұрын
:o
@progamer4442 жыл бұрын
wow so cool :) im darthen in the intro
@alanwelch59842 жыл бұрын
Feraenaturae- Alar - BBQ chicken build Forsaken - Victory for Sylvanas ! - Thank you for you content it has been a lot of fun to watch and has helped me transition from free build to draft which i am super addicted to now and i have even started pvp’ing. Thanks !
@thephlegmmaster782 жыл бұрын
I love that they made caster tank, it is just something completely new to try out... One thing which you might consider (eventhough not sure how it works on Ascension) is to get Blade of Eternal darkness. It restores your mana and deals damange when you land a spell... considering you are spamming AE on multiple mobs, it should keep your mana really high... Also, not sure if viable, but stacking spirit could also improve mana reg (if you struggle with it)... also, arcane meditation does not return 25% mana of your spellcast, it just allows your mana to regen, cause while casting your mana regen is reduced... which considering you are doing instant cast AE, and utilizing barrage to have fast Arcane Missiles, is useless talent :) Mcdgw Al'Ar...
@stardust5072 жыл бұрын
I hope we can see more tank builds, those are always fun to play/watch! - Ranex (Alar)
@winterwood12 жыл бұрын
That's a sweet purple judgement helm, dig the look. -Cromgore
@leaverpool80592 жыл бұрын
Ahaha that look really fun! Hope I will be able to see this video about the transmog contest! Chrimo
@Xero1of12 жыл бұрын
Spirit based. Unbounded Deathbringer. Defensive Magic. Shield & fast 1H (like a 1.40 dagger). Blessing of Sanctuary. Seal of Wisdom. Massive AOE like Hellfire. AOE+Heal like Holy Nova. Insta-cast single-target spell or something like Multi-shot. Cloth Armor with Green-numbered armor or plate. Max out block. Get stamina as high as you can. Pile on Spirit and Int. Then you can tweak the build as you like. Do this and you can solo normal dungeons. Heroics are a joke in a party, Mythics become easy. Git-r-dun. :D
@beefzerkee2 жыл бұрын
I based a build off this, except i'm using hemorrhage, a dagger, shield, and meditate. So far you really can't die, especially since i've got honor among thieves. it opened me up for other LRE possibilities
@aleksandarmarinkovic61652 жыл бұрын
Always looking forward for new videos. keep it up mcdoubles. best regards Corvinus
@sofuschristensen6182 жыл бұрын
This is What i love about ascension. That you Can do so many different builds and make Them work. -Tonyfab
@olivierleger65902 жыл бұрын
I recently did a mana-forged build, but with templar of flame. I went hard on defensive, 30% parry with ghostly strike and 15%+ dodge. I'm using innervate, judgement of the wise and spiritual attunement to keep my mana up
@ag360152 жыл бұрын
Mana tank, the hunt for water shield ™️ -Velens
@tmanctt2 жыл бұрын
Tanking Leo in SSC and Illidan on my Warlock in TBC was some of the most fun I have had in WoW. Alkri
@highlord12342 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention it, so don't know if you saw it: seems like they changed Righteous Fury to also give Spell Power based on Stamina.
@BuckysKnifeFlip2 жыл бұрын
It's a great change. I've been brewing Stormborn and Stormhammer. Both 2 handed tanks because that's fun. Planning on throwing Thorns and Lightning Shield on with thunderclap spam.
@fersuremaybek7562 жыл бұрын
the most recent actual caster tank was mop with demonology. frost armor would be interesting if you can use it
@miukku1112 жыл бұрын
The reason why you didn't get pushed by the imps was because of the clutch aoe silence by the boomie.
@TylerBrown-wt7iq2 жыл бұрын
man this build was cracked, can't wait to see what's next. - Thatmans
@michaelpochon66902 жыл бұрын
I've tried doin a build like this for a long time but can never get the lucky rerolls you got. Keep up the amazing work bro - Twillipp
@jeffthompson62482 жыл бұрын
McDubs, I was checking out your build in discord, @32:30 when you started having trouble with aggro, if you had Pyromaniac in the mage fire tree, the capstone reduces your threat by 20% !! That's probably your issue.
@herpieburp97972 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your tank videos. I hope the mana tank arc continues. Molemanmole
@pnpem2 жыл бұрын
I ran a similar build back on area52 when bc was introduced but instead of arcane spells, i went shadow with some aoe dots, the shadowburn heal legendary and i had the unbounded drain soul with that talent that gives back 20% of your mana when a target dies while on the effect of drain soul and it worked really good, never oom on aoe pulls, but on bosses it can be a little hard without evocation or any other mana returning spells.
@srul152 жыл бұрын
I like my caster tank with the Templar of Flame re for instant flamestrikes and 8% damage reduction use blaze to spread immolates, use judgement as the mana regen, and searing pain for single target aggro. Btw the capstone on arcane fortitude hasn't worked for months so going plate is good. Prplebubl
@chadimpson58922 жыл бұрын
I look forward to your videos, even though I am new to ascension. I have learned a lot from the videos!
@Jazerade2 жыл бұрын
Relleona - Alar Thanks for all the great content, been watching more and more
@paulhudson29232 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work always look forward to seeing them! Dwarfaoe
@Wrizzla2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! At the moment im taking a break from tanking and went back to dps ( wanna try a CS Build). I dont know if its just me but it started to feel a bit stale and boring and besides the corrupted bear tank theres not alot of other stuff that sounds fun for tanking. I hope we will get New and fun tanking Re's in the future. Wrizzla-Alar
@WallaceFREEEDOOOM2 жыл бұрын
I've met a bunch of American friends thanks to ascension and your videos definitely play a part in keeping me interested in the server itself so thanks for that bud - bandanabob
@darcblaze122 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty sick build! I always liked the idea of a mage tank. I know that Rift had a neat version of one. Thanks for all the great videos! -Darcblaze
@kiwikid092 жыл бұрын
Really made me want to make a mana tank now haha. Great vid as always :D Ciphur - Al'ar
@Fredefar2 жыл бұрын
Love the tanking content ! Would also love to see some ascended raids some time! Name: Lyner
@barrysmithjr89742 жыл бұрын
Another great video been watching for awhile never played Ascension till yesterday still confused with everything but hey is what it is - Drright -Al'ar
@Dr4ch3nb1ut2 жыл бұрын
your vids are always fun. your joy when something goes right^^ Painstopper
@CalamityVirus2 жыл бұрын
Looks like fun, maybe int tank will be the way to go for me. So annoying that the parry talents and REs are limited to single 2h rather than no shield, then you could do DW tanks and even get swashbuckler tanks (which I was trying to make but... yeah, its too limiting.) - Matsuri, Al'ar Edit: do your auto attacks do anything? You don't attack while casting so seems a little weird to spec for it I think? Edit2: Do you not use the epic that allows you to dodge/block/parry while casting? or the one that increases defense by 100% but cant mitigate? they might increases your survivability a bit more.
@elliothenriksson24982 жыл бұрын
You really made me like this game again
@Anoneeemouse2 жыл бұрын
"I have almost nothing on" Yeah I am getting a big boon too!
@GKSonick2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the mana tank. Working on my own version with huge mana pool but your REs are probably better. - Jely
@adverbs626 Жыл бұрын
last time you could play a caster tank was when they gave warlock the dark apotheosis glyph in MOP which made them a metamorphosis tank. then they took it away because it worked too well, and they they gave meta to demon hunters. the end.
@vividimaginer2 жыл бұрын
Ok you say that "everyone wants to be a caster tank" and I've never had that urge. But i kinda wanna play a caster tank now. -Tanksy
@lucasrutherford48672 жыл бұрын
Keep up the content man, been seeing loads of manaforged tanks recently ING Pawsmack
@velkatix12112 жыл бұрын
magic defender RE for dodge and block made a HUGE difference in my end game content with this build. also having invocation and evocation both are effective defensives. its a lot of fun love the build envenem
@Vanthil132 жыл бұрын
@mcdoubles At 13:00 you talk about wanting the fastest Attack Speed Caster Dagger. They're actually bugged though, the Mythic and Mythic+ ones are! They're all 1.8 Attack speed when they should be 1.5. That's a 20% difference, absolutely massive. It's a super simple fix I'd imagine, should just be updating a few values on the Devs side. I and many others have submitted bugs for it and they keep closing them without any response. This slower attack speed severely hurts many underplayed and unviable builds. There shouldn't be any harm in buffing those daggers I'd imagine. If there's some super OP spec I don't know of perhaps they should fix that one instead of hurting all the rest. Anyways it'd be cool if you could bring up that question at some point. Maybe the devs just need a louder voice to actually warrant a reply.
@charlierobinson65142 жыл бұрын
So glad ur vids Brought me back, I love spirit caster atm or fire frozen chaos. Keep it up - chizzy al’ar
@wasdicay4732 жыл бұрын
MFB is an okay tank, they nerfed it which means it either build very tanky and have no threat, or be less tanky than a Shield Tank and have okay threat. The devs kinda went a little too hard on it, imo.
@CaptainNarggles2 жыл бұрын
I made a Thunderslam tank build and its been a blast - Narggles
@ej57862 жыл бұрын
Every Tank ive seen all day is Mana Tank....LOL Ur a freakin Trend Setter!!!!! Maybe Boom Chicken for bonus damage and armor????? -Hurikane
@NovaMay2 жыл бұрын
Looking good! Love the build Gnovaa
@blainelott12302 жыл бұрын
I like the Holy 2h parry divine storm spam mana forge I tried out a lot better than the arcane stuff. Will of Light (I think) and the stagger buff/debuff makes divine storm proc like crazy, emanating light, heavy into judgements and holy damage. Took all the talents to buff INT that I could without gimping damage. Went whatever gave more INT. Ghostly strike, Judgement. Also the judge jury RE for the combo points from judgements and I rolled meditation, so more passive mana regen. It’s been fun spec for farming that’s for sure.
@brianchez51022 жыл бұрын
There's a ton of different ways to build MFB tank. Basically if you can think of a caster build, you can alter it to tank. This one is very remeniscent of mine from MalGanis era where it was arcane with arcane explosion, starfall, and starfire and moonfire as my single-target. However I've never gone for eldritch knight. I typically build fairly defensivly int stacking with Mind Over Matter epic and using mana cooldowns as my defensive CD's. So evocation, innervate, the like. A huge one I picked up at 70 here on alar though was Dispersion and shadowfiend. Even with the absolute worst boss to manaforge tank, that being Omor in HFR I can keep my mana up as long as the DPS can pump before I run out of cooldowns. And yeah, that Alembic Trinket is BiS. Had a healer say I shouldn't get it as a tank and all the DPS were like "bro he's manaforged though it's so good for him" -Yarkarano
@anoobisgaming82392 жыл бұрын
Could argue that shaman tank in classic/vanilla was a magic tank. Throw some lightbulbs and Schock people for burst threat. Was solid and much fun!
@Mcdoubles2 жыл бұрын
True I have videos of me trying to revitalize shaman tanking when classic WoW came out. But this is a whole different type of caster.
@anoobisgaming82392 жыл бұрын
@@Mcdoubles true! It does look super interesting, never played a caster in any form so no clue how to get such a build going! Might try and copy paste yours for a first timer. Thank you for your inspiration.
@sonween34912 жыл бұрын
Are you using the alembic epic enchant? If you are i probably missed it. I had an arcane mana-barrier tank, but i used only spells so i got mana fiend LRE for extra int instead. Nice vid. -Mobiusdicken (A'lar)
@feris34102 жыл бұрын
Feriss-alar My tank alt USA mana tank. I'd highly recommend that you try out scorch or any other spell that can be changed to be castable while moving and the epic RE that turns int into defense. You spam cast filler spell to maximize power surge which stops you from avoiding damage so the re really helps. I use moveable consc prepull and arcane explosion on pull for snap threat then let power surge carry from there. Since I'm running perilous touch I also run the fire spell threat RE and the holy one too
@feris34102 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention. If you run a Dagger that's faster than your filler you can weave autos between each cast, and I pair it with a shield for extra armor/def
@burningdragon912 жыл бұрын
The RE Mind over Matter lets you just stack INT, since it gives you a bunch of defense (miss chance for the enemy). If you wanna tank any "high tier " content you should probably take it. Erzmagier Alar
@xTatsumix2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the grunt did so well XD -Tatsumi
@TheeSammyD4202 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I enjoy your theory crafts. Peezly on alar
@raikaizinski12732 жыл бұрын
I am actually trying to shift from FFXIV to WoW and I find Ascension way more funny than normal WoW, I've always played tank and I love this build, any tips for a new player? What to do first? What to focus on? Thanks
@niklasvanbel8332 жыл бұрын
was in a dungeon grp with a manaforged barrier tank as i watched the video :D -Katoritas
@Floho002 жыл бұрын
I can remember a tank priest and wl in my guild, i am not sure if this was in tbc or wotlk, but it was funny as our maintank startet crying because he cant tank
@TheSamrussell172 жыл бұрын
Fun video, definatly gonna give this a try! Thanks for showing us how fun ascention can be! much love! Kayora - Al'ar
@zyempama73582 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these vids. Btw if you have trouble downloading your vids in not higher than 720 p you can try copying the video link and adding SS on the link of the vid. Then paste it on your browser. Also I'm now thinking of making a mama forge barrier tank with fok
@c87_archive2 жыл бұрын
So, as regards to the VOD of the stream, I'm assuming you use OBS, and you could have also recorded it locally.
@AdamOwczarek2 жыл бұрын
@mcdoubles you ran into the current issue for all Mana-Forged Barrier (MFB); threat generation. It is a real shame because Irrelevant the best MFB tank on Mal'Ganis is not able to play MFB on Al'ar in our Ascended groups due to the lack of damage/threat. If you wish to revisit this build, and want a pocket healer (and possibly dps) to see how it'll preform; please message Paczek on Al'ar.
@johnsalazar32252 жыл бұрын
I hope my gifts are you going to help you/ motivate you to keep making content man, I love the videos and I want to be able to watch the for a long while !
@RCoolAli2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Al'ar - Pizzanature
@DrRileyDJ2 жыл бұрын
I've been using mana tank for prestige runs, super easy. Probably the easiest tank for lower levels if you get invocation and a bit of AoE. Keep up the vids. - Rira
@christophermachado45412 жыл бұрын
Build was definitely interesting but idk if it appeals to me. Have you ever considered doing a mana fiend build w/ deconstruction? I gave it a try on Area 52 and it was enjoyable. Just a suggestion though IGN- Mackado
@Imbrybread2 жыл бұрын
Sunfire could be even better than Lunar, immediate aoe and more damage from the moonfire. This was probably one of my favorite specs to try myself, glad to see you trying it IGN: Brybread
@LowLyou2 жыл бұрын
Because of you i quit warmane and started ascension -Lowlyou
@MrCoolkille942 жыл бұрын
I think you need an re to block dodge and parry while casting! Could be wrong doe, great video anyway!
@WoWPines2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos McDubs -Papermate
@caseyhobo84772 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and I love watching you theory craft would love to see more healing builds -stompingmad (this character is leveling with thunder slam from watching your videos now he can be called stompingmad for a reason)
@kasperrgaard73242 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, Koalabjorn.
@Anarook2 жыл бұрын
If you want to try another tank I've been having an absolute blast with Templar of Flame. Every build i saw at first was just bear druid with it, so lame.. but I did finally come across a build named The Malding Flame for a 2h tank version. Dude does a great job talking about possible skills to roll for.
@TheShinyDunsparce2 жыл бұрын
The water shield def should've showed back up. You got screwed.
@landonhill82962 жыл бұрын
Fishnets for life Holmes - Leanae
@NVSsins2 жыл бұрын
I've had a few MFB tanks in my 1-70's and they're always super dope. Awesome to see you try it and I may have to try it myself - IGN Frothed
@KiryamaThil2 жыл бұрын
Only thing I haven’t seen is a ranged tank I could see it happen with like illusionary workings -Kiryama
@alfonsomural4792 Жыл бұрын
There was warlock tanking for twin emps in AQ40 in classic.
@luciendarthegreat32122 жыл бұрын
i made a 2h parry tank with 30 sec tranq i was running mythics with was helariously easy was up almost every pull i would triple if not quadruple the healers heals loved it
@taylornelson44302 жыл бұрын
Let the reroll commence!!
@confreeknor12 жыл бұрын
It might be broken lowlvl but few ppl can do it at max. Theres more then 1way to build it.. titansgrip with staff and shield, voidwalker and so on, still feel like mind over matter is meta, but u can do defense magic and get blocks 2 im guessing fun video ingamename chunkina
@ThePigeonsNest2 жыл бұрын
Could you do an arcane build? With those moonfires and missiles? I was trying to find one without the ranged weapon. - Korolyn
@drumlineking07 Жыл бұрын
Haven't played ascension in a long time. This makes me wanna dust off my unbound drain life tank lol
@funkyboi39782 жыл бұрын
I figure you definitely already did have it, but I saw an enchant a while back that said arcane damage deals 40% extra threat, but I can't remember what it was called. kek. ~Barishir
@Scubasnacks1012 жыл бұрын
ascension deserves more love. -scubasnacks(alar)
@theventhatiqtho81122 жыл бұрын
You should make a pure shadow bolt spec. I was lighting people up yesterday.
@pendanser54592 жыл бұрын
Abiding Fel Energy build when? also thoughts on Debbie Downer(RE)? -Pendanser
@invertedgamin2 жыл бұрын
Another Banger vid bro, -NottheBrave
@connorsheffield65762 жыл бұрын
It's time for that BME- Big Mcdoubles Energy
@TheFishTankChannel2 жыл бұрын
looks fun, Duriana on Al'ar
@mohammedalmeer24962 жыл бұрын
When i decided not to play tank again now you made me want to xD Bloodalfa - alar