I wouldn’t worry about the logistics on Skaar’s age. In the comics he ages pretty fast.

Kevin fiege needs to hire this man to keep track of their timeline and fix the Disney plus timeline cause this man’s attention to detail is unreal

Another amazing deep dive!! You SMASHed it! And I can add that, in regards to Rodgers the Musical, your date makes the most sense since the billboard was in LA where Jen is, making it an ad for the touring company of Rodgers. LA is often among the first stops of major tours and that typically happens around a year after the show opens on Broadway. Well done!

2025 just makes the most sense given the references in this show. Definitely do that revisit of eternals! I wanna see the evidence of 2023 that intrigued the hell out of me! Not my favorite show but it was okay for what it was

If you wanted to get really obsessive on the time that elapses during the series, you could count every change in wardrobe between scenes as a new day (presumably one would not change their outfit in the middle of a work day).

Thank you for this! I’m currently rewatching everything in order and I thought I had missed my window for this but you uploaded this just as I finished Hawkeye! Thank you!

You forgot Titania and Mr. Immortal's photos at the DODC HQ in Ms. Marvel which hint that that the 2 shows take place close to each other, which, to me, was the biggest indication. Wong staying in Kamar-Taj didn't even pass my mind tbh, but it's also a great indication. And the fact that the show takes place during Summer is very obviously planted accross the series (the folliage, clothes and weather, the Q3 thing, Mallory's line about her marriage anniversary, the Intelligencia event) as you very astutely noticed as well! Great video as always! As for Skaar and where the Hulk story is going, my theory is the following: Harrison Ford was recast for NWO and Thunderbolts, but the man is 81 years old and isn't really into franchises. So he probably signed a short deal. Now, why would Marvel Studios want to bring back Ross, whose role in the recent years was already small and fading even more and even more so for a short deal with a very old actor? Well, that's because they want to do Red Hulk. I mean, why else would they bring back the Leader (who created Red Hulk in the comics along with MODOK, both of whom are heads of the Intelligencia) and Ross in the same film (Cap: NWO)? But since Ross is a very smart, tactically conscious and aware Hulk, I think The Leader won't be able to use him as a weapon as he expected and the Leader will do something like the Gamma World/World War Hulks storyline and create multiple gamma monsters which the Thunderbolts (including Red Hulk as their final member) will have to face against during the Thunderbolts film. On top of that, if they want to give Banner a bigger role, they could have the Leader awaken the Hulk personality and bring him forth, undoing Banner's merging work and then enhancing Hulk with more gamma energy and turning him into World-Breaker Hulk as the main villain of the Thunderbolts. Remember that The Leader was originally the rumoured villain of the Thunderbolts. They clearly want to do more Hulk stories and doing it through NWO and Thunderbolts would be a good way to achieve it. Thunderbolts will basically be a Black Widow and a TIH sequel at the same time lol

And here I thought it took place during the week of October 10, 2022 because Jen Walters kept talking directly to me. Seriously great video, I appreciate your dedication and hard work. Looking forward to both your next video and the next time She-Hulk appears in the MCU.

Great analysis as always, smashing your way to a perfect conclusion for the timeline placement. Kudos! Regarding the memory erasing spell, the reason I think Wong's statement to Jen conclusively places She-Hulk after No Way Home is because in NWH Wong was adamantly against the spell being cast at first and then reluctantly agreed to it as long as he was kept out of it. And he also wasn't even aware of the earlier time it was cast by Strange, because it worked and made him forget. So I suspect that Wong wouldn't even have thought to bring it up when talking to Jen if it hadn't been cast by Strange in NWH. Regarding why Wong said he was the one who cast it, I'd say either he was being a good leader and taking responsibility for the spell being cast since he did basically allow it to happen...or he then cast it again after NWH for whatever reason he had. But in both cases, I think She-Hulk has to happen after NWH for that reason. But, all that said, I really like your reasoning for placing it after NWH due to Blonsky not being at Kamar-Taj during the assault. Excellent point! Anyway, very nice work!

The reason she enters ASSEMBLED through a Shang-Chi thumbnail is because Disney+ used to format ASSEMBLED a series, but started formatting them as individual specials after Shang-Chi. The series format has Shang-Chi as the last episode, hence the thumbnail.

I love how there is no judgment of the show. The timeline placement is objective. That something many people struggle with! Good job ❤

Hey, really enjoy your timeline videos, you've put a lot time and effort into them! Just wanted to point something out about the Assembled specials. Originally, all of the specials in 2021 were released as one series of 6 episodes (from WandaVision to Shang-Chi), but starting in 2022 with the Hawkeye special, each one was released as individual specials. When Jen entered the Assembled icon, she entered the original series, so not specifically the Shang-Chi episode. Pretty minor thing, but I thought I'd mention it. Looking forward to the next timeline vid!

Amazing video as always! Love the content!

Wow, this video was very informative! Once again, great video as always 👍

Not sure but is it possible for it to still take place in 2024 by having a gap between the end of the series and the post credit scene. It could only be a week but that’s still long enough for the events of multiverse of madness to take place. Anyway, thanks for another great video

My headcanon as to what actually happened in the finale was that the TVA pruned the timeline with what happened in the Intelligencia meet up before the Disney+ fourth wall break since I don’t really believe She Hulk actually went to the real world in canon so I’d say that’s probably the most logical explanation imo

Wow thats so impressive, I wish Marvel would hire you to sort out the timeline

YES I want to see the Eternals analysis It's always tricky to place on the timeline.

Another great video, well done. Speaking on the dude bro talking about lady Thor…I figured he had maybe saw her or heard about her and was not aware of her death.

I have not read many of the comments so somebody may have pointed this out already, but I wanted to address your thought about Wong having to fight a worthy opponent but not doing it until 2024 being a plot hole. It actually makes a lot more sense than you think. You know that Wong took up the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme as soon as Steven disappeared. With that being said, Steven was not going to just take that lying down once he came back and found out what happened so he was going to figure out every single technical rule in the book about what Wong had to do in order to be the sorcerer Supreme and Wong would find every single shortcut he could to check the boxes.

Video suggestion: at the end of the year after the guardians of the galaxy holiday special comes out and phase 4 comes to an end, you should do a full MCU ranking of all the movies, shows, specials, and shorts (one-shots and i am groot). You could also add the multiverse titles (raimi spider-man trilogy, the amazing spider-man duology, the sony spider-man universe, what if...?) too. Or not. Wether you would want to stick with earth-616 or include multiverse stuff i don't care. Anyway, Thought that would be a good idea.

I must say that you SMASHed the Timeline once again and put it correctly on the Timeline in which it makes alot of sense and referencing everything from past titles and other things connecting to later in the Timeline is Perfect Awesome Job Geekritique Keep up the Good Work my Friend.

Great job, I hadn’t thought about Emil’s supposed presence in Kamar-Taj. However, don’t you think something could have happened between August (She-Hulk finale) and November 2024 (MoM)? Like, perhaps during these months Emil joined the Thunderbolts since he’s going to be one of their members? Or he could have left Kamar-Taj before MoM for any other reason, and so his absence would be justified. Moreover, both the Eternals’ reference to Tiamut’s head and the more-than-a-year delay for the Abominion footage to be leaked make me think more of a Summer 2024 placement.

This is why I’m subscribed to you, at this point I’m more excited to see you solve the timeline more then the shows themselves

Always look forward to these!

Not gonna lie, soooo happy you posted a video. I was straight up bored and didn’t know what to do until I saw the notification!

damn, bro. you just keep nailing these things. good job. SMASHED!

I didn't get a notification for this, sometimes I hate KZfaq. Glad I check your social media regularly!

Another great video my friend I always get excited seeing these because I am absolute junky for knowing the timeline of the MCU. This was very informative, and I was mostly correct I had the right idea down on maybe April when the origin happens and then the show jumps to July a few months later. The year placing I wasn't correct on I thought 2024, but seeing the explanation with Blonsky makes a lot of sense and I'm glad to know, it especially works better for Bruce to have his arm in a sling for much longer I think. Also if I may add on Wong fighting Blonsky to become Sorcerer Supreme, maybe the training process took awhile and the fight just ended up being the final part of it, so he could have been in the process of becoming it before Strange returned.

Because of the fourth wall breaks and totally meta ending, She-Hulk: Attorney At Law is actually a show inside the MCU in my head canon... a show where She-Hulk herself is the star, Wong plays himself, Bruce and Emil play themselves etc. so I'm going to place it after everything it references (sort of like an origin story that airs inside the MCU referencing events that have already happened) This also helps me make sense of all the references from different places all over the timeline, because it's a retelling/dramatisation of events that have already occurred, they can get away with making references so wildly if it is a show inside the MCU

YESSS! Haven't finished watching the video, but Eternals was one of the few projects that I disagreed with you on the placement. I'm a firm believer that chronologically it takes place immediately after WandaVision, a couple of weeks after Endgame.

Honestly now I wish Emil did have a cameo in MoM, would have built further on the intrigue established by Shang-Chi as to what was going on between him and Wong, and created more interest for She-Hulk

YOU ALWAYS AMAZE ME FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORTS. IT'S PRETTY ACCURATE.

I recently reviewed Shan-Chi and the legend of the ten rings and this raised a question inherent in the She Hulk timeline. Is it possible that She Hulk starts in 2024 and ends in 2025? Thank you very much for your work and your opinion.

Great analysis. Smash Also, I want an "Eternals" analysis.

I can imagine that Wong was upgraded to honorary Sorcerer Supreme when Strange was gone, and devided that afterwards to turly become official Sorcerer Supreme after Strange returned

Another piece of evidence that helps place it in 2025 comes in the episode 4 post credits scene, where Wong claims they still have some vodka and yak’s milk “from the wedding” which presumably is referring to Christine Palmer’s wedding at the beginning of Multiverse of Madness.

Daredevil Born Again will probably give more evidence for when She Hulk takes place

I'd definitely be into an Eternals video update. I'm personally very much in the 2023 camp for it though. I think the Abomination thing is an interesting point, but to me it isn't terribly conclusive because 1) Abomination is a physical fighter only; as long as Wanda keeps her distance, Emil can't do anything to her, 2) Wanda could theoretically easily take over Abomination and use him against the sorcerers. So if Abomination was at Kamar Taj during the events of Multiverse of Madness, I would think Wong would make sure he stayed clear of Wanda as much as possible. (And it would stand to reason that Emil doesn't want to flee prison entirely or he wouldn't have gone through the charade of turning himself over to the DODC, so Wong likely would have placed him back in the DODC holding cell during the events of the movie to keep up appearances and keep Emil out of the way.) Ultimately though, you're right. We're not given anything that definitively places the show in 2024 or 2025. (We don't even know for sure if the Rogers musical began in NY or LA and moved from one to the other, which is frustrating.) You covered the majority of the reasons why in your video, but the fact that the DODC isn't using EDITH drones yet is one thing your video didn't cover that I also add to the list of reasons I prefer a 2024 placement (even though you can certainly argue against that as well because we don't know if it's just the New York branch of DODC that kept EDITH drones, if the LA branch just decided not to deploy theirs that night, or what). So I prefer to keep it 2024 to better fit with the "few months after Shang-Chi" information, but will be willing to move it to 2025 if we get in-universe information later on contradicting that.

Smash’d that like button! Can’t wait for the next one!

I completely agree with the point about Blonsky based on the info we currently have...but this placement appears to put the lie to that "a few months ago" title form the first episode. Unless the events of She-Hulk actually stretch out over the course of most of a year? I'm definitely waiting with baited breath for your updated thoughts on where Eternals should land on the timeline.

Great video btw smash

You have become a legend in the marvel Fandom

Great work

this was a good video, are you planning on doing one for tales of the jedi and where each episode is placed?

Smashed this video!

Hey Dakota! Amazing vid as always. I have a question about your MCU timeline. What is your personal opinion on the canonicity of the Marvel Television side of the MCU? I’ve heard a lot of different opinions and it would be cool to hear what side you are on. Don’t worry, I’m not trying to start an argument, just curious. Lol! It’s hilarious how you need to specify that with this topic nowadays 😂. Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts.

Do descovering the timeline of Eternals

Great thumbnail as always.

SMASH! Amazing video man! I also speculated that She-Hulk would take place around Summer of 2025, so glad I wasn’t the only one 😂

Hey pal, for the next video can you make a video about when Thor: Love and Thunder takes place? Look that I have waited for that video. And also make the videos of when Avengers: Endgame, Spider-Man: Far From Home and Spider-Man: No Way Home takes place.

Smash And finally, thank you for this video. Also, Ive noticed you have not yet made a seperate timeline video on No Way Home. Or Did you cover that up on your podcast?

Will you make a DCEU updated timeline with Black Adam movie?

Great video, now I wonder when’s the next time we will be seeing Wong, I hope we see him before Kang Dynasty

Another great exploration into the MCUTImeline. Thank you for all hard work that you do for us. According to the time of year...maybe listen to some SMASHing Pumpkins?

Smash 🎉 Great Video!

Deadpool 3 is going to be a very time-consuming addition to this, assuming D3 will share continuity with the previous X-Men films, and eventually the MCU...

I wouldn't say She-Hulk enters another timeline when she breaks through the 4th wall. I'd say this simply adds another layer to the cosmology of the MCU. There are universes/timelines extending from some point of origin to the Void; those are contained with a larger cosmos/outerspace (it's possible to look at the timelines from outside, as it was in Loki). All that, as it turns out, are just stories generated by an AI in a World Almost Like Ours (except there's an AI and the ontology of that world allows the stories told to have actual existence) - and that world is the most outer shell of the MCU. Honestly, I don't like this development - it's too lazy, solipsistic, it breaks immersion, and it gives the creators the licence not to care about timeline mistakes and plot holes, but that's what it comes down to.

I really appreciate your work! And good luck, because when Deadpool 3 comes out, you will most likely have to make an X-Men Cinematic timeline...and it's incredibly controversial.

I really liked she hulk but hates that final 4th walk break. Honestly, on rewatched and what I consider canon, I’m just skipping that bit and saying it’s a joke. Im cutting from the moment right before Todd says he took her blood to the second she is outside during the day.

Hi, I'm a big fan of your work. I have a question. Can you do a same video like this but with phase 5? Do you have to watch phase 5 or can you do it just jet? Because I also want the best phase 5 time-line in MCU. Does it work?

It's amazing that an analysis of the timeline of a show was a bigger smash than the show itself.

just because wong wanted to train with abomination doesn't mean he wasn't sorcerer supreme yet

That she hulk is located in 2025 makes all the sense in the world with what you have told us But... There is only one problem that I found, what happens is that a chapter of ms. Marvel when her father invites her to dress up as the hulk kamala mentions that there is no female hulk Which would either move ms marvel or she hulk But that she hulk happens in 2025, there is no doubt about that

The Shang Chi footage argument is funny. It leaked because he was up for parole. IDK how anyone was confused on that.

I am not quite sure about this....Post Credit szenes aren´t bound to the time frame. Seen in Captain Marvel for example. The show indicates that the second episode takes place days after chang chi because if someone would see the Abomination and film it, there would be no way that this person wouldn´t upload it imediatley or at least a few days after. The Lady Thor refrence could hint that Jane is in that Time Frame Mighty Thor. We know she is a while in new Asgard as Mighty Thor wich would fit perfectly into this Timeframe. Regarding what you argument in your video and this facts alone I would say that she hulk takes place days after Chang Chi and its post credit szene where you place the hole show. The only thing i Couldn´t figure out is why emil would stay for a year in prison before reaching out to wong. Maybe he tried to get along with it but grew tired after a year and then took wongs offer. Idk

I was wondering were this was going to be placed, I was thinking sometime after thor love and thunder from that guys comment but i really liked this show, I know it's not everyone's cup of tea but it was a real smash

The book of vishanti that got destroyed on MOM is in a different universe. right?

Spoilers for the end of the video-- I do not agree with your conclusion- but I agree with like everything in your argument, This whole time, you've made me question whether this title is in 2024 or 2025. And the fact that the Abomination was invited to ..camortage.. and he was not present in Multiverse of Madness, I don't think thats a piece of evidence that firmly places this is one or the other. There could be any amount of off-screen reasons why he didn't show up. Maybe his asylum is on hold, he could have left and Wong let him, he could be on a trip. And I'm not saying this means the show is set in 2024, I personally am still questioning it now after your video. I just think that nothing here concretely actually says--- I think if you revisited this, you should also mention Daredevil- though its sadly unclear if this is the same continuity as the past 3 seasons...there's probably a little to glean there- The actor for Kingpin is the only one who's straight up said "same continuity, same character" and everyone else has been vague- thats a whole nother argument that I would appreciate your thoughts on unless you plan to wait till Fiege finally says something on the matter. At the very least currently- its worth mentioning Kingpin's appearance in say Hawkeye and what that means in terms of Daredevil-- "why wasn't he going after Kingpin during this time?" And MAYBE- this is a video you can't revisit till summer next year after Echo with appearances from Kingpin and Daredevil within that show's duration. I want to make sure to mention-- WHAT IF the final post credit scene in the show is not directly after the main events of the show, WHAT IF Wong gets him out of Prison like say, something like a year later...? After he's been serving his sentence for a while, or maybe just a few months later? I do want your opinion on this concept. As always, I truly appreciate your videos breaking things down. I mean no offense by my disagreement here. Considering all presented evidence here, I'm just not quite convinced, and your staking piece doesn't convince me about it being 2025....but who's to say, it still very likely is the correct placement, but the post credit scene isn't the one that I'm placing my bets on.

How smashing to learn that we're really starting to leave 2024 behind after it's gotten so crowded! /nigelthornberry

You put so much more thought into this than the fucking creators did.

I guess it’s safe to say that Earth-1218 is canon in the MCU multiverse.

Marvel Studios should watch these and just base the timeline off of how this works. Everything will make way more sense. And they should fix the placement in Disney+

I think, that the leaked footage of Abomination fighting Wong isn‘t the same scene from Shang-Chi. The one showed in She-Hulk could easily happened around October 2024 and than it would only be half a year later, when it was shown to the rest of the world.

Didnt she hulk go to the met gala? Would that help with the timeline

Sorry if my comment about marvel tv a few days ago was too much for you to answer. I totally understand that you don't want to start controversy

Great video as always! I would love for you to revisit Eternals!

17 minutes!!!

please do dceu timeline if you have some time, thank u.

It would be great to revisit Eternals,

The main reason is can't be 2024 for me, is surely Spider-Man wold have used the new superhero law firm instead of Matt Murdock.

Can’t wait for the eternals timeline yes I watched it very carefully and it is very underrated despite its Jump loops so I am inn and new Shang chi placement and I always believe the Incredible Hulk takes place before iron man 2 I think that takes place in April 2011 and iron man 2 May 2011 you mentioned news leaks in this video happens months years days like You just mentioned so don’t forget John Harrington Peter Parker’s teacher in the mcu fegie admitted it is the same character I salute a pizza to you hahaha as what he was doing and school takes place that’s why I got Incredible Hulk first then iron man 2 Thor is not that far behind iron man 2

I do miss your doctor who content a bunch :/

This is how my phase four currently looks before watching this video: 88. Loki (2023) 89. What If… AND Post Credits for What If… (2023) 90. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S06 (Summer 2019) 91. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S07 (2020)* 92. WandaVision AND Three Post Credit Scenes at the end of their respective episodes of WandaVision (7, 8, & 9) (November 2023) 93. Post Credit Scene for Morbius (2024)* 94. Eternals AND Mid Credit Scene for Eternals AND Post Credit Scene for Eternals (Winter 2024) 95. Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings AND Mid Credit Scene for Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings AND Post Credit Scene for Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (April 2024) 96. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S1 E1 AND Credit Scene for She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (April 2024) 97. Falcon and the Winter Soldier AND Post Credit Scene for Falcon and the Winter Soldier (April-June 2024) 98. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S1 E2 - E8 AND Credit Scenes for She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (July/August 2024 99. Thor: Love and Thunder AND Mid Credit Scene for Thor: Love and Thunder AND Post Credit Scene for Thor: Love and Thunder (Late May 2024 [probably the 20th) 100. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S1 E9 AND Credit Scene for She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (August 2024) 101. Moon Knight AND Post Credit Scene for Moon Knight (Mon, June 6th 2024-June 16th 2024) 102. Post Credit Scene for Black Widow (June 2024) 103. Spiderman: Far From Home (June-July 2024) 104. Post Credit Scene for Venom: Let There Be Carnage (July 2024)* 105. The Daily Bugle S1 (E1-E6) (July 2024) 106. Spiderman: No Way Home AND Mid Credit Scene for Spiderman: No Way Home (July/December 2024) 107. The Daily Bugle S2 [E7-E25] (July-December 2024) 108. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness AND Mid Credit Scene for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness AND Post Credit Scene for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness (Fall 2024) 109. Hawkeye AND Post Credit Scene for Hawkeye (Christmas 2024) 110. Ms. Marvel AND Mid Credit Scene after episode one and episode six (September/October 2025) I took it too mean the opening episode flashback because of Bruce's bandage was just after _Shang Chi_ and that the last episode was after _Thor: Love and Thunder_ because of the line where Lady Thor was mentioned. Whether she was dead or not didn't effect placement in terms of him saying it. This is how it looks after watching the video: 88. Loki (2023) 89. What If… AND Post Credits for What If… (2023) 90. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S06 (Summer 2019) 91. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S07 (2020) 92. WandaVision AND Three Post Credit Scenes at the end of their respective episodes of WandaVision (7, 8, & 9) (November 2023) 93. Post Credit Scene for Morbius (2024) 94. Eternals AND Mid Credit Scene for Eternals AND Post Credit Scene for Eternals (Winter 2024) 95. Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings AND Mid Credit Scene for Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings AND Post Credit Scene for Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (April 2024) 96. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S1 E1 AND Credit Scene for She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (April 2024) 97. Falcon and the Winter Soldier S1 E1 - E3 (April 2024) 98. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S1 E2 - E8 AND Credit Scenes for She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (May- August 2024) 99. Falcon and the Winter Soldier S1 E4 - E6 AND Post Credit Scene for Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Mid April-June 2024) 100. Thor: Love and Thunder AND Mid Credit Scene for Thor: Love and Thunder AND Post Credit Scene for Thor: Love and Thunder (Late May 2024 [probably the 20th) 101. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S1 E9 AND Credit Scene for She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (August 2024) 102. Moon Knight AND Post Credit Scene for Moon Knight (Mon, June 6th 2024-June 16th 2024) 103. Post Credit Scene for Black Widow (June 2024) 104. Spiderman: Far From Home (June-July 2024) 105. Post Credit Scene for Venom: Let There Be Carnage (July 2024)* 106. The Daily Bugle S1 (E1-E6) (July 2024) 107. Spiderman: No Way Home AND Mid Credit Scene for Spiderman: No Way Home (July/December 2024) 108. The Daily Bugle S2 [E7-E25] (July-December 2024) 109. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness AND Mid Credit Scene for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness AND Post Credit Scene for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness (Fall 2024) 110. Hawkeye AND Post Credit Scene for Hawkeye (Christmas 2024) 111. Ms. Marvel AND Mid Credit Scene after episode one and episode six (September/October 2025) I have an easier time buying Bruce/Hulk wouldn't need the sling or would just be annoyed with it and take it off even if he did need it over him still wearing it two years after _Endgame._ I disagree with most of what TV-LINE had written, but agree it was after _Shang-Chi._ I agree with when, why and possible how's of the Blonsky footage leaking. I also agree with where the _Eternals_ should be placed over where Disney plus placed it. How X-Men decides to start could easily mean the X-Men are out there as well and characters just don't know who or what mutants are. I love that the timeframe from becoming Hulk to Smart Hulk matches up with during the blip. "11 years this October" didn't change my timetable or placement, but it also wasn't an acknowledgement of time I made while watching. 8/16 was the first time I realized I was a little off in the timetable and placement. The ? also made me assume an upcoming event over a past event. Rewriting the scene for daytime doesn't make me feel any timetable or timeframe should change. I can easily picture Wong lying from 9:15-9:23. He is blasé about the law and I feel that he feels lying would be for a good reason. Outfits never make me feel placement matters unless they show time passing. Wong never felt like that for me (I have not seen an outfit on Wong or Dr. Strange saying time passes even after watching this video, but Iron Man suits and how advanced they become over time do make me feel that way). Also, all the memory spell disapproval moments Wong has, I took to mean he used one pre-_No Way Home_ and pre this show. So I took what he mentions to be an incident audiences are unaware of. If Wong did participate in erasing Peter Parker's memory I would place this in Summer 2025 as the video says. The book of Ashanti reference does make me think pre-_Multiverse of Madness_ because what is the point of saying in reference that he thinks she is using/going by the book, if it is destroyed. Said book is useless post-_Multiverse of Madness,_ so why bring it up if that is when it is set aka Wong knows it to be destroyed. It isn't even a funny joke (in-universe, at least) he is saying if Jen wouldn't understand it. I agree musicals can last years, which is why I cannot use it as proof of placement. _Cats_ ran for 18 years. When _Phantom of the Opera_ closes in real world 2023 it will make it a 35 year run. Les Misérables ran 16 years. As long as the line referencing Lady Thor is there all that matters is that the _Thor Love and Thunder_ movie either is happening or comes before the last episode. Whether Jane is dead or not doesn't matter to the timeline. Using the present tense doesn't mean much as this group would think "the nebulous concept" of her is what is so terrible. But her being dead makes it make more sense in the moment, for me, thus my placement on the timeline. For me, it is only once ALL in-universe theories fail that being a Doylist comes into play. When Jen breaks the forth wall and the Disney plus homepage appears, I see that as our world. As for _Assembled,_ it is a different universe from ours and 616, so the timeline narrative doesn't change. Only the events of the moment as Jen and K.E.V.I.N. described. None of this is any different than Dr. Strange following 616's timeline in _Multiverse of Madness_ despite traveling to different universes. Jen entered two different universes. I consider her breaking the fourth wall throughout the series as talking to our real world with the same type of power as America Chavez, except America only travels to them and She Hulk talks and travels to them (in this case if she feels the show jumped a nonsensical shark she traveled two different universes). She visited the real world (the Disney plus home page) and an MCU fictional version of the real world (Assembled). Until we see what happens with Blonsky after the She Hulk final credit scene, I see there being unknown reasons why he wasn't in _Multiverse of Madness._ The videos timeline could be correct, but until I see what happens with Blonsky, I still don't think there is enough proof one way or the other and it is just how a person views it. The reason the MCU hasn't entered FOX X-Men territory in terms of a messy timeline is because they are allowing fans potential personal placements through vagueness rather than trying to define everything exactly to a pinpoint. At least until they have details like my last paragraph with Blonsky figured out. With the multiverse now in play and more characters, _vagueness until sure_ will start working better than _exactness right off the bat._

Wankanda forever will be the easiest phase 4 movie to pinpoint in your timeline

so After Hawkeye and Before Ms. Marvel

I SMASHED LIKE RAGHHH

You are "SMASH"ing the Timelines and it became its own universe. Should we call it "Dakota Cinematic Timeline" or "Geekritique Cinematic Timeline"? Can't decide 😁😎

Hopefully Echo takes place after she- hulk, We may be in 2026 then

I honestly thought Eternals was in 2023, considering Ajak mentioned Thanos snapped his fingers "five years ago". To be honest, if I were her, and this was in 2024, I would've said "six years", because that's how my brain works, and I don't want to worry about including how many months. Then again, she is a robot, so who knows?

Maybe a Eternals relook could be a good idea.

Did I just spoil Love and Thunder for myself in a, She-Hulk vid 😭

SMASH. 👊

Smash

eternals in 2023? interesting

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So basically you have no idea and that's okay cuz the show was terrible anyway

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