It's relatively easy to measure mass moment of inertia of an object using a bifilar pendulum. Here's a description along with a derivation of the governing equation and an experiment to show how it all works.
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@tomasenrique7 ай бұрын
English is not my first language, but boy your accent it PERFECT!!! I don't need any subs for these videos!
@gdogvibes16 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your teaching style. Very informative but not dry and genuinely enjoyable to watch, thanks!
@tommcqueary78316 жыл бұрын
Great Explanation This information will help me model my quadcopter which I am designing and building including the control board. This kind of information was lacking in my college control systems course (EE curriculum). It seems the most difficult part of controlling a system is to get an accurate model of the system so this information along with modeling the motor torque will solve major pieces of the puzzle. Thanks for a great effort. Only minor complaint is it seems you may need to replace one of your felt tip markers soon.
@gokulkrishna26216 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot professor.... you saved my day...
@hassanmualla36936 жыл бұрын
Wow! Really helpful!
@cakecakeish7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Explained so well. Where did you get the equation to work out the mass moment of inertia from? Which textbooks are you using? Thanks!
@alieltair54184 жыл бұрын
Hello, I was using this formula in my experiment to test the parallel axis theorem, however, I quickly realized that it only works when the rotational axis is at the center of mass, is there any iteration of the formula that considers having the rotational axis away from the center of mass? Help appreciated!
@yankeekilo3 жыл бұрын
Thank You sir!
@nickgodden19807 жыл бұрын
Always great seeing an experiment to prove the maths....you'll have to apply for funding for a more comprehensive lab 😀 Thank you.
@feelingk2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for very interesting video. I would like to apply this method to mesuring the mass moment of inertia (MMoI) of my robot. However, I have following questions: i) MMoI depends on mass (of course mass distribution) and geometry of the object. For a defined object, can be considered as a constant. This results to b^2 T^2 /L = const. Is it true? ii) If i) is not true, then it means that MMoI depends on b, distance from the CoG to the point where you hold the cable. So, where is that point for obtaining a good value of MMoI?
@taurinenrgy7 жыл бұрын
That was amazing! so would this method work on other more complex objects as well, like your skate board or a tree branch?
@purdueMET7 жыл бұрын
In theory, it should work on just about anything. The Air Force uses this method to find the MOI of underwing stores like fuel tanks and missiles.
@taurinenrgy7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I used this method for my physics lab along with using a turn table to find the moment of inertia and I got close to the same result both ways.
@nishantmishra560411 ай бұрын
@@purdueMET I was trying to find the MOI of my Styrofoam glider, but it is almost impossible to balance the aircraft
@user-yj8ji1wm3i3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial, and just a small question. What if the CG is not at the center of D. Does the derived equation still works or any modification suggested. Great thanks in advance
@BobbyBlue1173 жыл бұрын
The derivation requires that both tensions be the same which will place the CG somewhere between the two strings and along the line connecting the two strings as well.
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
how did you get bθ in the right angle triangle?
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
what is bθ supposed to represent
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
Also, if in the equation I=(Mgb^2t^2)/(4π^2L), we keep M, b and L constant, and since g is constant, does that mean varying the T (Time Period) by increasing the angle will directly affect the I (Moment of Inertia)? Can I do an IA(Internal Assessment, basically an experimental investigation) on that?
@waelalghanami90934 жыл бұрын
Ah, a fellow IB student
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
@@waelalghanami9093 lol how's it going
@waelalghanami90934 жыл бұрын
@@koolkataustin2961 EE due in a week and I'm at 200 words. I'd say it's going pretty well.
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
@@waelalghanami9093 I have the exams that decide my predicted grade(which is what decides my uni) in 4 days, and I haven't started studying yet. Pretty good for me too.
@waelalghanami90934 жыл бұрын
@@koolkataustin2961 Good luck brother. What subjects are you taking?
@waqasmuneer79512 жыл бұрын
Sir please make a video of big idea of FEM if possible
@mohamedezeldin7 жыл бұрын
Hallo Purdue, I would thank you for your good explaination but I have some notes on your work: 1- the experimental twist angle is approx more than 15° but the relation will not equal sin(°)=|=(°), if you need to apply this relation the angle should be close to zero. 2- your derivation was M.g.b^2.theta/(2L) at time 5:28 sec but at time 12:21 was M.g.b^2.theta/(L) (2 times than before why??)
@lipe95677 жыл бұрын
I had the same doubt, but I figured out why here. It happened because in the first part he derived the momentum of only one cable, and in the second equation(with the thetas) we need to use the sum of momentuns. That's why it's 2 times than before.
@brandontoledo69156 жыл бұрын
What happened to the two in the denominator?
@Rezwan476 жыл бұрын
Repeat the video and consider on (11:50) to (12:00)
@matiassantacruz54874 жыл бұрын
Damn....I was trying to find a way to derive an equation for a Bifilar Pendulum's time period based on the distance between files...
@MrLennon705 жыл бұрын
Can we get Period directly from g = 4(Pi^2)L/T^2 without measuring period manually using pendulum?
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
no, cause the 'g' may be inaccurate. you need to do the opposite, and confirm that g is acurate for your pendulum after measuring pendulum
@Joe0x7F6 жыл бұрын
Great! Fantastic! Thank you!
@ovaisanwar80457 жыл бұрын
very helpful. Thank you
@SynytsiaAnton7 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@ajayjoseph46265 жыл бұрын
how do you theoretically calculate the moment of inertia of a funny shaped object? for example a quadcopter? it's not a solid piece of material. Do those suspended strings have to be parallel?
@chatchawanhannongbua4946 жыл бұрын
Hello. How to measure moment of inertia of crankshaft?
@ahmedmasri72064 жыл бұрын
How did u find the uncertainty in the moment of inertia?
@magnussvommemann6 жыл бұрын
Very good video and easily explained! Is there a reason you used so long strings?
@hassanmualla36936 жыл бұрын
With long strings, you can rotate the mass more while still getting low value for α. So assuming that sinα=α is possible.
@user-jv4nm4bt3d4 жыл бұрын
if I want to measure the moment of inertia of a irregular shaped object , then how I can find the two points to connect the strings at the beginning? do I need to find the center of gravity first? if the center of gravity is not on the middle axis of the two strings, can we still use this math model?
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
You need to find the center of mass. You can use this math model, but the distance b must be measured from the center of mass. Refer to this image: www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwim7baK1oflAhUIi3AKHS21DHMQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Ffigure%2FUsing-the-bifilar-pendulum-method-to-measure-the-moment-of-inertia_fig2_2358471&psig=AOvVaw0tiWS_FGzyE_NVK1unHbUd&ust=1570452627778261
@davidwhitford42866 жыл бұрын
can I ask during the start of the proof when he uses the triangle why does b(\)/L=tan(a). Where does b(\) come from?
@rohitraj-ie2tk4 жыл бұрын
b(/) is the arc length which by L is approximately sin (/)
@ctnry51905 жыл бұрын
Where did the theta=Ae^iwt come from?
@CompassionOverFear945 жыл бұрын
He assumed sinusoidal motion, of which can be described as theta=Ae^iwt. You don't have to know A or theta; it's just helpful for deriving the expression (A cancels out when these terms are inserted into the M=I(alpha) expression.
@waelalghanami90934 жыл бұрын
What are some real-life applications of bifilar pendulums?
@koolkataustin29614 жыл бұрын
finding the moment of inertia of Unmanned Air Vehicles (UAVs). Are you doing your Internal Assessment (IA) on Bifilar Pendulums? I am.
@waelalghanami90934 жыл бұрын
@@koolkataustin2961 No, I'm doing it for my EE. I'm investigating how geometry affects moment of inertia.